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kao prvo nisam obožavatelj lika i dijela župana čačića,kao drugo županija je nekako uspjela naći i kupiti svojim sredstvima nekoliko respiratora(inače se na tržištu sad teško nađu),kao treće žalosna je ta raspodjela gdje jedna sjeverna županija dobije pola a neka druga ima duplo pa čuva,kao četvrto najžalosniji je taj odnos središnjih vlasti(koji traje već neko duže vrijeme)prema sjevernim županijama jer očigledno da bi smo mi nešto dobili moramo otpuzati na koljenima velikom vođi na dvor i kao peto jedna sočna psovka na račun tih bahatih i pokvarenih ništkoristi koji kao vode ovu nazovidržavuGnječ wrote:vili40 wrote:ne razumiješ,u županiji je situacija jako loša a rekao sam,ne jebu ga ni pol posto.On mora moljakati respiratore jer ih je neki dan ponestalo a dobili su ih samo 12 makar po broju stanovnika trebali su ih imati bar 24,on ih traži da nešto poduzmu sa tim nemjerama i još svašta a plenki "nemojte dramiti"...pa treba imati živce za tovuksadinare wrote:očekivano od čačička...blize se lokalni izbori a on ovisi o njima...popusili moze se pozdraviti da je župan a to je pozicija koja ga najvise zanima..ostaje mu samo saborski mandat a tad mu svejedno moze i u oporbi bit i nemati nikakvu odgovornost...tika taka
kupite respiratore sami jebovasbog a račun za respiratore proslijedite kriminalcu anemičnom psihopati i još mu zaračunajte kamatu. pa ima se para za budalaštine onda bi trebali imati para i za respiratore.
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na ovo bi trebalo staviti znak upozorenja da ne čitaju ljudi slabih živaca ili slabog srca,taj čovjek me sve više podsjeća na jednog koji ovih dana napokon puši na sve strane,ovo je strašnovuksadinare wrote:https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=vijesti&id=2228195
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Gnječ wrote:kako sam predvidio, 4. zakon termodinamike: "Ako serija događaja može poći naopako, poći će najgorim mogućim redoslijedom".
na farmama vidrice koje su zaražene SARS-CoV-2 pojavio se novi mutant soj virusa koji je opasan za ljude.
Denmark plans to cull up to 17 million mink to stop mutated coronavirus
(CNN)Denmark, the world's largest producer of mink furs, plans to cull all mink in the country to contain a mutated form of novel coronavirus.
Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said Wednesday the decision had been made with a "heavy heart," but it was necessary based on the recommendation of health authorities.
"The virus has mutated in mink. The mutated virus has spread to humans," Frederiksen said.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/05/europe/denmark-mink-cull-coronavirus-intl-hnk-scli/index.html
Mutated variety of coronavirus found in Danish mink
Prime minister says all of Denmark’s minks must be killed for sake of vaccine development
A WHO spokesman said: "We have been informed by Denmark of a number of persons infected with the coronavirus from minks, with some genetic changes in the virus.
“The Danish authorities are investigating the epidemiological and virological significance of these findings and culling the mink population. We are in touch with them to find more about this event."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/mutated-variety-of-coronavirus-found-in-danish-mink/2032390#
Selam alejkum, Turčine, nemaš ništa bolje i vjertodostojnije od tog Erdoganovog novinarskog sranja? Anadolu Agencija..
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vili40 wrote:kao prvo nisam obožavatelj lika i dijela župana čačića,kao drugo županija je nekako uspjela naći i kupiti svojim sredstvima nekoliko respiratora(inače se na tržištu sad teško nađu),kao treće žalosna je ta raspodjela gdje jedna sjeverna županija dobije pola a neka druga ima duplo pa čuva,kao četvrto najžalosniji je taj odnos središnjih vlasti(koji traje već neko duže vrijeme)prema sjevernim županijama jer očigledno da bi smo mi nešto dobili moramo otpuzati na koljenima velikom vođi na dvor i kao peto jedna sočna psovka na račun tih bahatih i pokvarenih ništkoristi koji kao vode ovu nazovidržavuGnječ wrote:vili40 wrote:ne razumiješ,u županiji je situacija jako loša a rekao sam,ne jebu ga ni pol posto.On mora moljakati respiratore jer ih je neki dan ponestalo a dobili su ih samo 12 makar po broju stanovnika trebali su ih imati bar 24,on ih traži da nešto poduzmu sa tim nemjerama i još svašta a plenki "nemojte dramiti"...pa treba imati živce za tovuksadinare wrote:očekivano od čačička...blize se lokalni izbori a on ovisi o njima...popusili moze se pozdraviti da je župan a to je pozicija koja ga najvise zanima..ostaje mu samo saborski mandat a tad mu svejedno moze i u oporbi bit i nemati nikakvu odgovornost...tika taka
kupite respiratore sami jebovasbog a račun za respiratore proslijedite kriminalcu anemičnom psihopati i još mu zaračunajte kamatu. pa ima se para za budalaštine onda bi trebali imati para i za respiratore.
nađu se novi respiratori svih vrsta i namjena odmah sada na tržištu ih imaš koliko hoćeš dosta ti je otvoriti browser i potražiti a te mantre da se na tržištu teško nađu je totalna laž izašla iz neke opskurne birtije.
ICU (intensive care unit ) respiratori koštaju po komadu od 25.000$ do 50.000$ znači koštaju manje nego vozni park ovih buzdovana na vlasti sa jednim autom kojeg taj buzdovan šoferira može kupiti 6 ili više komada respiratora. novih.
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Eroo wrote:Gnječ wrote:kako sam predvidio, 4. zakon termodinamike: "Ako serija događaja može poći naopako, poći će najgorim mogućim redoslijedom".
na farmama vidrice koje su zaražene SARS-CoV-2 pojavio se novi mutant soj virusa koji je opasan za ljude.
Denmark plans to cull up to 17 million mink to stop mutated coronavirus
(CNN)Denmark, the world's largest producer of mink furs, plans to cull all mink in the country to contain a mutated form of novel coronavirus.
Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said Wednesday the decision had been made with a "heavy heart," but it was necessary based on the recommendation of health authorities.
"The virus has mutated in mink. The mutated virus has spread to humans," Frederiksen said.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/05/europe/denmark-mink-cull-coronavirus-intl-hnk-scli/index.html
Mutated variety of coronavirus found in Danish mink
Prime minister says all of Denmark’s minks must be killed for sake of vaccine development
A WHO spokesman said: "We have been informed by Denmark of a number of persons infected with the coronavirus from minks, with some genetic changes in the virus.
“The Danish authorities are investigating the epidemiological and virological significance of these findings and culling the mink population. We are in touch with them to find more about this event."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/mutated-variety-of-coronavirus-found-in-danish-mink/2032390#
Selam alejkum, Turčine, nemaš ništa bolje i vjertodostojnije od tog Erdoganovog novinarskog sranja? Anadolu Agencija..
ima:
https://www.information.dk/indland/2020/11/myndighederne-frygter-nordjylland-nyt-wuhan-mink-aflives?fbclid=IwAR2Sx79vh-6RxlG7lBQm8quppDBHqOzwyuYcSD3rzc3mE4RRTy5QIoZ-V58
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020-11-04-flere-restriktioner-i-nordjylland-skal-mindske-muteret-coronasmitte?fbclid=IwAR0Mn4ZrF5D9vFM-y7h89JcXKsammoAtAhi6Qn69lvC6K1nqWgKYBNpZt4c
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020-11-04-dansk-coronamutation-alle-mink-skal-aflives?fbclid=IwAR1r9ZGYxU9qD8HC0nMUs503nxayQMiAcDwEV62vgjjdFWNEpoHCny8GFdw
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/samfund/2020-11-04-frygten-er-en-ny-pandemi-vi-starter-her-i-danmark-who-er-advaret?fbclid=IwAR1CEjHtxMHjAvS1022j36vkK1-xyW-peVp1K8RUE8Sp2LTncr5JFY30Vas
https://www.information.dk/indland/2020/11/myndighederne-frygter-nordjylland-nyt-wuhan-mink-aflives?fbclid=IwAR05qK_GRlzSm97z2EPws5bWkXziq-bENNsf5e94d--Fj58zoqkASnC8pzM
https://coronasmitte.dk/-/media/mediefiler/corona/mink/risikovurdering-af-human-sundhed-ved-fortsat-minkavl_03112020.pdf?fbclid=IwAR05qK_GRlzSm97z2EPws5bWkXziq-bENNsf5e94d--Fj58zoqkASnC8pzM
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Mink housed on Michigan farm test positive for coronavirus
https://www.wdio.com/news/mink-michigan-farm-test-positive-coronavirus/5889675/
COVID-19 likely spreading from people to animals—and vice versa
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/09/covid-19-likely-spreading-people-animals-and-vice-versa
https://www.wdio.com/news/mink-michigan-farm-test-positive-coronavirus/5889675/
COVID-19 likely spreading from people to animals—and vice versa
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/09/covid-19-likely-spreading-people-animals-and-vice-versa
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ENGLISH VERSION: Mink causes new covid-mutation in humans – is Denmark in risk of becoming the new Wuhan?
A new variant of coronavirus has become a serious threat to public health and to the development of a Covid-19 vaccine globally. Some 17 million minks in Denmark are now be put down. »This is extremely serious and a threat to the entire world,« says the Danish Prime Minister, Mette Frederiksen.
https://www.berlingske.dk/nyheder/english-version-mink-causes-new-covid-mutation-in-humans-is-denmark-in
A new variant of coronavirus has become a serious threat to public health and to the development of a Covid-19 vaccine globally. Some 17 million minks in Denmark are now be put down. »This is extremely serious and a threat to the entire world,« says the Danish Prime Minister, Mette Frederiksen.
https://www.berlingske.dk/nyheder/english-version-mink-causes-new-covid-mutation-in-humans-is-denmark-in
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i ako je tako ova priča sa respiratorima nije toliko bitna nego ostale stvari kao i onaj buzdovan na vlastiGnječ wrote:vili40 wrote:kao prvo nisam obožavatelj lika i dijela župana čačića,kao drugo županija je nekako uspjela naći i kupiti svojim sredstvima nekoliko respiratora(inače se na tržištu sad teško nađu),kao treće žalosna je ta raspodjela gdje jedna sjeverna županija dobije pola a neka druga ima duplo pa čuva,kao četvrto najžalosniji je taj odnos središnjih vlasti(koji traje već neko duže vrijeme)prema sjevernim županijama jer očigledno da bi smo mi nešto dobili moramo otpuzati na koljenima velikom vođi na dvor i kao peto jedna sočna psovka na račun tih bahatih i pokvarenih ništkoristi koji kao vode ovu nazovidržavuGnječ wrote:vili40 wrote:ne razumiješ,u županiji je situacija jako loša a rekao sam,ne jebu ga ni pol posto.On mora moljakati respiratore jer ih je neki dan ponestalo a dobili su ih samo 12 makar po broju stanovnika trebali su ih imati bar 24,on ih traži da nešto poduzmu sa tim nemjerama i još svašta a plenki "nemojte dramiti"...pa treba imati živce za tovuksadinare wrote:očekivano od čačička...blize se lokalni izbori a on ovisi o njima...popusili moze se pozdraviti da je župan a to je pozicija koja ga najvise zanima..ostaje mu samo saborski mandat a tad mu svejedno moze i u oporbi bit i nemati nikakvu odgovornost...tika taka
kupite respiratore sami jebovasbog a račun za respiratore proslijedite kriminalcu anemičnom psihopati i još mu zaračunajte kamatu. pa ima se para za budalaštine onda bi trebali imati para i za respiratore.
nađu se novi respiratori svih vrsta i namjena odmah sada na tržištu ih imaš koliko hoćeš dosta ti je otvoriti browser i potražiti a te mantre da se na tržištu teško nađu je totalna laž izašla iz neke opskurne birtije.
ICU (intensive care unit ) respiratori koštaju po komadu od 25.000$ do 50.000$ znači koštaju manje nego vozni park ovih buzdovana na vlasti sa jednim autom kojeg taj buzdovan šoferira može kupiti 6 ili više komada respiratora. novih.
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Corona: Mehr Kinder infiziert als bekannt
Antikörpertests in Bayern enthüllen sechsmal höhere Infektionsrate bei bis zu 18-Jährigen
More children infected than known: Antibody tests in Bavaria reveal six times higher infection rates in up to 18-year-olds
Hidden infections: Far more children in Bavaria have been infected with the coronavirus than expected, as antibody tests reveal. Accordingly, between April and July, 0.87 percent of the 12,000 children tested had antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 - six times more than officially reported. Almost half of these children did not have any symptoms of Covid 19. This confirms the assumption that there is a relatively high number of unreported cases - especially among children.
In addition to the PCR tests, which detect the acute presence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 in the body, an infection can also be detected retrospectively - using antibodies. These are formed by the immune system about one to four weeks after infection and usually remain detectable for several weeks. This enables the contamination of a population to be estimated with such tests - this has already been done for early corona hotspots such as Ischgl and Heinsberg.
12,000 children and young people tested in Bavaria
However, little was known until now how big the infection is in the general population and among children. Now the largest study to date provides more information. For this purpose, Markus Hippich from Helmholtz Zentrum München and his team examined blood samples from 12,000 children aged 0 to 18 throughout Bavaria for antibodies against SARS-CoV-2. The blood samples were from April to July 2020 and had originally been taken to detect type 1 diabetes.
Because common antibody tests are often not 100 percent specific and can therefore give false positive results, the researchers tested all blood samples for two different antibodies: one that matches the binding site on the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 and one that matches a Nucleocapsid protein docks - the inner virus envelope. In combination, these two tests achieve a specificity of 100 percent and a sensitivity of more than 95 percent, as the researchers explain.
Discrepancy to reported case numbers
The result: between April and July, an average of 0.87 percent of the children had antibodies against both virus proteins. This is six times more than officially registered by the Bavarian authorities as corona-positive cases in this age group. The study results and the geographical distribution of the cases are available in an online dashboard.
According to the official figures, the cumulative number of cases at the end of July for children up to six years of age was 111 per 100,000 inhabitants and for 7 to 18-year-olds 182 per 100,000 inhabitants. The antibody data, however, suggest 870 infected children per 100,000 population. “Our study provides important results that reveal the discrepancy between reported virus infections and antibody levels,” says Hippich.
“In order to get reliable data on the spread of the virus, it is not enough just to test for the virus itself.” Because these tests have so far mostly only been carried out in specific suspected cases and people with symptoms.
Almost half had no symptoms
Also interesting: Almost half of the children with antibodies against the coronavirus were completely asymptomatic during the acute infection, as additional surveys showed. "This confirms that testing only children with Covid-19 symptoms is not enough to identify virus-positive children," say the researchers. However, around half of the asymptomatic children in the study had an infected family member.
In the opinion of Hippich and his team, it therefore makes sense to also test the children who have had contact with an infected person - regardless of whether they show symptoms or not. "That could probably uncover the majority of cases among children, if not all," said the scientists.
“National programs that test for antibodies with high specificity and sensitivity could provide the countries with reliable data to prepare for the future,” says study leader Anette-G. Ziegler. "You could help them contain the spread of the virus and review the effects of regional and national COVID-19 measures." (Med, 2020; doi: 10.1016 / j.medj.2020.10.003)
Source: Helmholtz Zentrum München - German Research Center for Health and Environment
October 30, 2020
Original source in German:
https://www.scinexx.de/news/medizin/corona-mehr-kinder-infiziert-als-bekannt/
Antikörpertests in Bayern enthüllen sechsmal höhere Infektionsrate bei bis zu 18-Jährigen
More children infected than known: Antibody tests in Bavaria reveal six times higher infection rates in up to 18-year-olds
Hidden infections: Far more children in Bavaria have been infected with the coronavirus than expected, as antibody tests reveal. Accordingly, between April and July, 0.87 percent of the 12,000 children tested had antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 - six times more than officially reported. Almost half of these children did not have any symptoms of Covid 19. This confirms the assumption that there is a relatively high number of unreported cases - especially among children.
In addition to the PCR tests, which detect the acute presence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 in the body, an infection can also be detected retrospectively - using antibodies. These are formed by the immune system about one to four weeks after infection and usually remain detectable for several weeks. This enables the contamination of a population to be estimated with such tests - this has already been done for early corona hotspots such as Ischgl and Heinsberg.
12,000 children and young people tested in Bavaria
However, little was known until now how big the infection is in the general population and among children. Now the largest study to date provides more information. For this purpose, Markus Hippich from Helmholtz Zentrum München and his team examined blood samples from 12,000 children aged 0 to 18 throughout Bavaria for antibodies against SARS-CoV-2. The blood samples were from April to July 2020 and had originally been taken to detect type 1 diabetes.
Because common antibody tests are often not 100 percent specific and can therefore give false positive results, the researchers tested all blood samples for two different antibodies: one that matches the binding site on the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 and one that matches a Nucleocapsid protein docks - the inner virus envelope. In combination, these two tests achieve a specificity of 100 percent and a sensitivity of more than 95 percent, as the researchers explain.
Discrepancy to reported case numbers
The result: between April and July, an average of 0.87 percent of the children had antibodies against both virus proteins. This is six times more than officially registered by the Bavarian authorities as corona-positive cases in this age group. The study results and the geographical distribution of the cases are available in an online dashboard.
According to the official figures, the cumulative number of cases at the end of July for children up to six years of age was 111 per 100,000 inhabitants and for 7 to 18-year-olds 182 per 100,000 inhabitants. The antibody data, however, suggest 870 infected children per 100,000 population. “Our study provides important results that reveal the discrepancy between reported virus infections and antibody levels,” says Hippich.
“In order to get reliable data on the spread of the virus, it is not enough just to test for the virus itself.” Because these tests have so far mostly only been carried out in specific suspected cases and people with symptoms.
Almost half had no symptoms
Also interesting: Almost half of the children with antibodies against the coronavirus were completely asymptomatic during the acute infection, as additional surveys showed. "This confirms that testing only children with Covid-19 symptoms is not enough to identify virus-positive children," say the researchers. However, around half of the asymptomatic children in the study had an infected family member.
In the opinion of Hippich and his team, it therefore makes sense to also test the children who have had contact with an infected person - regardless of whether they show symptoms or not. "That could probably uncover the majority of cases among children, if not all," said the scientists.
“National programs that test for antibodies with high specificity and sensitivity could provide the countries with reliable data to prepare for the future,” says study leader Anette-G. Ziegler. "You could help them contain the spread of the virus and review the effects of regional and national COVID-19 measures." (Med, 2020; doi: 10.1016 / j.medj.2020.10.003)
Source: Helmholtz Zentrum München - German Research Center for Health and Environment
October 30, 2020
Original source in German:
https://www.scinexx.de/news/medizin/corona-mehr-kinder-infiziert-als-bekannt/
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vili40 wrote:i ako je tako ova priča sa respiratorima nije toliko bitna nego ostale stvari kao i onaj buzdovan na vlastiGnječ wrote:vili40 wrote:kao prvo nisam obožavatelj lika i dijela župana čačića,kao drugo županija je nekako uspjela naći i kupiti svojim sredstvima nekoliko respiratora(inače se na tržištu sad teško nađu),kao treće žalosna je ta raspodjela gdje jedna sjeverna županija dobije pola a neka druga ima duplo pa čuva,kao četvrto najžalosniji je taj odnos središnjih vlasti(koji traje već neko duže vrijeme)prema sjevernim županijama jer očigledno da bi smo mi nešto dobili moramo otpuzati na koljenima velikom vođi na dvor i kao peto jedna sočna psovka na račun tih bahatih i pokvarenih ništkoristi koji kao vode ovu nazovidržavuGnječ wrote:vili40 wrote:ne razumiješ,u županiji je situacija jako loša a rekao sam,ne jebu ga ni pol posto.On mora moljakati respiratore jer ih je neki dan ponestalo a dobili su ih samo 12 makar po broju stanovnika trebali su ih imati bar 24,on ih traži da nešto poduzmu sa tim nemjerama i još svašta a plenki "nemojte dramiti"...pa treba imati živce za tovuksadinare wrote:očekivano od čačička...blize se lokalni izbori a on ovisi o njima...popusili moze se pozdraviti da je župan a to je pozicija koja ga najvise zanima..ostaje mu samo saborski mandat a tad mu svejedno moze i u oporbi bit i nemati nikakvu odgovornost...tika taka
kupite respiratore sami jebovasbog a račun za respiratore proslijedite kriminalcu anemičnom psihopati i još mu zaračunajte kamatu. pa ima se para za budalaštine onda bi trebali imati para i za respiratore.
nađu se novi respiratori svih vrsta i namjena odmah sada na tržištu ih imaš koliko hoćeš dosta ti je otvoriti browser i potražiti a te mantre da se na tržištu teško nađu je totalna laž izašla iz neke opskurne birtije.
ICU (intensive care unit ) respiratori koštaju po komadu od 25.000$ do 50.000$ znači koštaju manje nego vozni park ovih buzdovana na vlasti sa jednim autom kojeg taj buzdovan šoferira može kupiti 6 ili više komada respiratora. novih.
zašto lažu? šta su toliko uvjereni da misle da će svi popušiti njihove laži? nismo u 15-tom stoljeću postoje sredstva komunikacije danas je relativno lako doći do informacija ako znaš što tražiš i nisi limitiran samo na čitanje Glorije i Glas Koncila.
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Noor wrote:đizsGnječ wrote:kako sam predvidio, 4. zakon termodinamike: "Ako serija događaja može poći naopako, poći će najgorim mogućim redoslijedom".
na farmama vidrice koje su zaražene SARS-CoV-2 pojavio se novi mutant soj virusa koji je opasan za ljude.
Denmark plans to cull up to 17 million mink to stop mutated coronavirus
(CNN)Denmark, the world's largest producer of mink furs, plans to cull all mink in the country to contain a mutated form of novel coronavirus.
Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said Wednesday the decision had been made with a "heavy heart," but it was necessary based on the recommendation of health authorities.
"The virus has mutated in mink. The mutated virus has spread to humans," Frederiksen said.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/05/europe/denmark-mink-cull-coronavirus-intl-hnk-scli/index.html
Mutated variety of coronavirus found in Danish mink
Prime minister says all of Denmark’s minks must be killed for sake of vaccine development
A WHO spokesman said: "We have been informed by Denmark of a number of persons infected with the coronavirus from minks, with some genetic changes in the virus.
“The Danish authorities are investigating the epidemiological and virological significance of these findings and culling the mink population. We are in touch with them to find more about this event."
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/mutated-variety-of-coronavirus-found-in-danish-mink/2032390#
evo još:
Myndigheder kendte til trussel fra virusmutationer i mink, længe inden minister reagerede
Authorities knew of threats from virus mutations in mink long before the minister responded
The Danish Veterinary and Food Administration and the Statens Serum Institut knew for a whole month that mutations in coronavirus among mink could pose a problem for a future vaccine before the Minister of Food, Agriculture and Fisheries responded.
When the minister finally responded, he kept secret the concern about the mutations for another nearly two weeks.
Authorities have long known that coronavirus is mutated among mink in a way that could potentially weaken the effects of vaccines. Nevertheless, Minister of Food, Agriculture and Fisheries Mogens Jensen (S) was apparently only briefed late on the risk, and the mutations managed to continue spreading for several weeks before he reacted.
It shows risk assessments, which the Statens Serum Institut (SSI) and the University of Copenhagen have regularly sent to the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration, and which Information has now been given access to.
Professor of clinical microbiology at the University of Southern Denmark Hans Jørn Kolmos believes that the authorities have reacted too slowly to their knowledge.
“The time factor is crucial,” he says.
“It is as if one has not really understood that infectious diseases are spreading at a pace that they themselves determine. The infection does not lie dormant while we discuss what to do about it. "
As early as 4 September, SSI wrote in a risk assessment that "a special mink variant" of the virus had spread from a mink farm to the local population in North Jutland and as far away as Bornholm and Croatia.
The particular variant was mutated around a specific protein in the virus called ‘spike’. It is the protein "that all vaccine candidates are targeting," the risk assessment said.
The special mink variant was found on all the first three mink farms, which were found infected in June.
SSI wrote that a new kind of mutation around the same protein in the virus had now also been found on a fourth mink farm, and that a child associated with the farm had been infected with the mutated mink variant.
Thus, two mink variants abounded, which were mutated around the particular protein, and the mink variants were found in both mink and humans.
At that time, only six of the country's more than 1,000 mink farms had been infected.
'Particularly worrying'
During the summer, SSI had examined 121 positive corona samples from people in North Jutland who had at least one mutation that could be attributed to mink, the risk assessment states.
The Serum Institute wrote that the risk of infection from humans to mink was 'high', while the risk of infection from mink to humans in the surrounding community was 'present'. The institute recommended several new initiatives. Among other things, frequent tests of mink breeders, their families and employees as well as stricter requirements for who had access to the stable areas.
On 16 September, SSI and the University of Copenhagen wrote a new risk assessment to the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration. Here they mentioned that the newest of the two mink varieties had now been found among humans and mink on six mink farms.
Two days later, on 18 September, SSI and the University of Copenhagen wrote a so-called epidemiological report, in which they cut the problem all out of cardboard:
»In mink, several changes have been detected in several areas of the viral genome, including the area encoding the spike protein, which is essential for immunity after infection and / or vaccination. These changes could potentially result in herd immunity not occurring and vaccines not working. In addition, it has been shown that the mink-related virus variant subsequently forms human chains of infection in society. "
In particular, two of the changes in the virus were 'particularly worrying', it said, since they had taken place around the spike protein.
'There is therefore a possibility that the viruses that occur in mink will reduce or eliminate the effect of all spike-based anti-COVID-19 vaccines, just as it may increase the likelihood that people who have already been infected, can be re-infected with these virus variants, so that herd immunity is absent, «the risk assessment stated.
Finally, SSI and the University of Copenhagen concluded that the previous preventive measures to prevent transmission between humans and mink had either not worked or had not been implemented properly. They considered that it would be of no use to introduce new protective measures.
"The continued development of the virus in mink with more and more mutations in the spike protein and spread by transmission to humans in Denmark poses a potential danger to public health and to the expected effects of a vaccine," the risk assessment said.
The Minister warned
On 20 September, two days after the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration had received the report, the Minister of Food, Agriculture and Fisheries, Mogens Jensen, announced that he would now give the Danish Veterinary and Food Administration the opportunity to pay unannounced visits to the mink farms. The mink farms in North Jutland also had to submit samples of dead mink twice a week instead of once every three weeks as before.
The number of infected mink farms in North Jutland had then risen to 20.
But if one is to believe the Ministry of the Environment and Food, the Minister at this time had not yet been briefed on the content of the risk assessments and the potential risk from the mutations.
He first became so in a note dated 23 September, the ministry's press department informs Information. In other words, a full 19 days after the Statens Serum Institut had first drawn attention
https://www.information.dk/indland/2020/10/myndigheder-kendte-trussel-virusmutationer-mink-laenge-inden-minister-reagerede
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Mene zanima gdje je moj dragi raspravničar šejker... ja bih ako nema njega, da netko drugi meni objasni koji brojevi i u svijetu i kod nas, su u opadanju... ja sam prije 3 tjedna UPOZORAVAO da će nas snaći iznimno teška situacija, i samo da me tri mušketira ne maltretiraju, sam iznosio najoptimističnije prognoze po pitanju brojeva... na žalost ti moji veliki i njima nevjerojatno veliki brojevi su u stvari mizerija u odnosu koji brojevi su aktualni realitet... sjetite se priče tj upitnika, zna li netko ikoga da je obolio, prebolio ili nije prebolio "koronu" ... ja mogu reći da sam danas tijekom raznoraznih obavljanja saznao za 11 poznanika koji su oboljeli, 5 koji su preboljeli, 4 koji još uvijek boluju i 2 koji nisu preboljeli...
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Ali prije ljeta smo i GNJEČ i ja upozoravali da će ovo biti jako jebena boleština koja će nam drastično zakomplicirati život, a mnogima ga i uzeti... ali jbga mi pičke , plačljivci, kukavice, glupani (pogotovo ja) koji znamo samo na prste brojati...
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Re: Da remiziramo...
Istina, krunski sam svjedok :)michaellcmacha wrote:Ali prije ljeta smo i GNJEČ i ja upozoravali da će ovo biti jako jebena boleština koja će nam drastično zakomplicirati život, a mnogima ga i uzeti... ali jbga mi pičke , plačljivci, kukavice, glupani (pogotovo ja) koji znamo samo na prste brojati...
Nego ja gledam kako neki brslaju o izborima, ovom, onom, pizdarijama...
Jel ti ljudi kuže uopće da mi u bolnici imamo bergamo trenutno?!
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2015-08-15
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nema danas osobe koja ne zna ni jednog oboljelog, preboljelog...čak i mrtvog moždamichaellcmacha wrote:Mene zanima gdje je moj dragi raspravničar šejker... ja bih ako nema njega, da netko drugi meni objasni koji brojevi i u svijetu i kod nas, su u opadanju... ja sam prije 3 tjedna UPOZORAVAO da će nas snaći iznimno teška situacija, i samo da me tri mušketira ne maltretiraju, sam iznosio najoptimističnije prognoze po pitanju brojeva... na žalost ti moji veliki i njima nevjerojatno veliki brojevi su u stvari mizerija u odnosu koji brojevi su aktualni realitet... sjetite se priče tj upitnika, zna li netko ikoga da je obolio, prebolio ili nije prebolio "koronu" ... ja mogu reći da sam danas tijekom raznoraznih obavljanja saznao za 11 poznanika koji su oboljeli, 5 koji su preboljeli, 4 koji još uvijek boluju i 2 koji nisu preboljeli...
ja više ni ne brojim koliko iz znam da su bili ili jesu pozitivni
u široj obitelji i u krugu prijatelja imam 2 umrla
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michaellcmacha wrote:Ali prije ljeta smo i GNJEČ i ja upozoravali da će ovo biti jako jebena boleština koja će nam drastično zakomplicirati život, a mnogima ga i uzeti... ali jbga mi pičke , plačljivci, kukavice, glupani (pogotovo ja) koji znamo samo na prste brojati...
ljudi će početi shvaćati ozbiljnost situacije tek i samo onda kad dnevno bude 100.000 do 200.000 smrtnih slučajeva od COVID-19 ili oko 20 do 50 milijuna ljudi umrlih od COVID-19, posebno u Americi i zemljama Europe, a također i određenim zemljama jugoistočne Azije a za sada ih boli kurac a nisu svjesni da tim svojim neodgovornim iracionalnim infantilnim ponašanjem upravo stvaraju tu pogibeljnu budućnost. osim toga na postu iznad u članku piše da je taj novi mutirani virus iz Danske stigao u Hrvatsku što bi trebalo zvoniti na uzbunu sve alarme svuda ali vidim nitko ni da trepne.
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Ne trepću jer im plenki priča što žele čuti, da je situacija stabilna...shvatio da oni to vjeruju pa sere...Gnječ wrote:michaellcmacha wrote:Ali prije ljeta smo i GNJEČ i ja upozoravali da će ovo biti jako jebena boleština koja će nam drastično zakomplicirati život, a mnogima ga i uzeti... ali jbga mi pičke , plačljivci, kukavice, glupani (pogotovo ja) koji znamo samo na prste brojati...
ljudi će početi shvaćati ozbiljnost situacije tek i samo onda kad dnevno bude 100.000 do 200.000 smrtnih slučajeva od COVID-19 ili oko 20 do 50 milijuna ljudi umrlih od COVID-19, posebno u Americi i zemljama Europe, a također i određenim zemljama jugoistočne Azije a za sada ih boli kurac a nisu svjesni da tim svojim neodgovornim iracionalnim infantilnim ponašanjem upravo stvaraju tu pogibeljnu budućnost. osim toga na postu iznad u članku piše da je taj novi mutirani virus iz Danske stigao u Hrvatsku što bi trebalo zvoniti na uzbunu sve alarme svuda ali vidim nitko ni da trepne.
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Re: Da remiziramo...
pročitala sam i idem guglati da vidim ima li nešto više o tome...za sada ni slova nigdjeGnječ wrote:michaellcmacha wrote:Ali prije ljeta smo i GNJEČ i ja upozoravali da će ovo biti jako jebena boleština koja će nam drastično zakomplicirati život, a mnogima ga i uzeti... ali jbga mi pičke , plačljivci, kukavice, glupani (pogotovo ja) koji znamo samo na prste brojati...
ljudi će početi shvaćati ozbiljnost situacije tek i samo onda kad dnevno bude 100.000 do 200.000 smrtnih slučajeva od COVID-19 ili oko 20 do 50 milijuna ljudi umrlih od COVID-19, posebno u Americi i zemljama Europe, a također i određenim zemljama jugoistočne Azije a za sada ih boli kurac a nisu svjesni da tim svojim neodgovornim iracionalnim infantilnim ponašanjem upravo stvaraju tu pogibeljnu budućnost. osim toga na postu iznad u članku piše da je taj novi mutirani virus iz Danske stigao u Hrvatsku što bi trebalo zvoniti na uzbunu sve alarme svuda ali vidim nitko ni da trepne.
počet će kad se proširi..ko i ovi u Danskoj
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obrati se HDZu na vlasti.Gnječ wrote:michaellcmacha wrote:Ali prije ljeta smo i GNJEČ i ja upozoravali da će ovo biti jako jebena boleština koja će nam drastično zakomplicirati život, a mnogima ga i uzeti... ali jbga mi pičke , plačljivci, kukavice, glupani (pogotovo ja) koji znamo samo na prste brojati...
ljudi će početi shvaćati ozbiljnost situacije tek i samo onda kad dnevno bude 100.000 do 200.000 smrtnih slučajeva od COVID-19 ili oko 20 do 50 milijuna ljudi umrlih od COVID-19, posebno u Americi i zemljama Europe, a također i određenim zemljama jugoistočne Azije a za sada ih boli kurac a nisu svjesni da tim svojim neodgovornim iracionalnim infantilnim ponašanjem upravo stvaraju tu pogibeljnu budućnost. osim toga na postu iznad u članku piše da je taj novi mutirani virus iz Danske stigao u Hrvatsku što bi trebalo zvoniti na uzbunu sve alarme svuda ali vidim nitko ni da trepne.
rekli sa da nikakv locdown i policijski sat ne dolazi u obzir. to su Plenk ii HDZ rekli, i većina populacije em ih podržava, em je glasovala za njih i njihov model(SDP nudi zaključavanje ali je premoćno izgubio izbore) Lauc i Bakić koji izgleda kreiraju našu korona-politiku su ih hvalili danas na fejsu. Lauc je direktno uključen, a Bakić indirektno preko Lauca ova dvojiac svaki dan imaju rasprave i usklađivanje.. njih dva su ima par tjedana preuzeli RH korona politiku i naravno oni savjetuju Plenkija/stožer/HDZ a ovi udru blagoslov tome. I predsjednik Zoki je na istoj toj razini. njima se obratite
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kaya wrote:Ne trepću jer im plenki priča što žele čuti, da je situacija stabilna...shvatio da oni to vjeruju pa sere...Gnječ wrote:michaellcmacha wrote:Ali prije ljeta smo i GNJEČ i ja upozoravali da će ovo biti jako jebena boleština koja će nam drastično zakomplicirati život, a mnogima ga i uzeti... ali jbga mi pičke , plačljivci, kukavice, glupani (pogotovo ja) koji znamo samo na prste brojati...
ljudi će početi shvaćati ozbiljnost situacije tek i samo onda kad dnevno bude 100.000 do 200.000 smrtnih slučajeva od COVID-19 ili oko 20 do 50 milijuna ljudi umrlih od COVID-19, posebno u Americi i zemljama Europe, a također i određenim zemljama jugoistočne Azije a za sada ih boli kurac a nisu svjesni da tim svojim neodgovornim iracionalnim infantilnim ponašanjem upravo stvaraju tu pogibeljnu budućnost. osim toga na postu iznad u članku piše da je taj novi mutirani virus iz Danske stigao u Hrvatsku što bi trebalo zvoniti na uzbunu sve alarme svuda ali vidim nitko ni da trepne.
pa zar smo samo nas nekoliko normalnih na ovom brodu luđaka kojim upravlja kapetan Anemio??? i usmjerio je brod drito u neku klisurinu i ogromnu santu leda a svi rvati veslaju kao da je santa leda ustvari eldorado i brod neće potonuti kao kamen nego ćemo bit svi bogati puni zlata ko brod..
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AssadNaPodmornici wrote:obrati se HDZu na vlasti.Gnječ wrote:michaellcmacha wrote:Ali prije ljeta smo i GNJEČ i ja upozoravali da će ovo biti jako jebena boleština koja će nam drastično zakomplicirati život, a mnogima ga i uzeti... ali jbga mi pičke , plačljivci, kukavice, glupani (pogotovo ja) koji znamo samo na prste brojati...
ljudi će početi shvaćati ozbiljnost situacije tek i samo onda kad dnevno bude 100.000 do 200.000 smrtnih slučajeva od COVID-19 ili oko 20 do 50 milijuna ljudi umrlih od COVID-19, posebno u Americi i zemljama Europe, a također i određenim zemljama jugoistočne Azije a za sada ih boli kurac a nisu svjesni da tim svojim neodgovornim iracionalnim infantilnim ponašanjem upravo stvaraju tu pogibeljnu budućnost. osim toga na postu iznad u članku piše da je taj novi mutirani virus iz Danske stigao u Hrvatsku što bi trebalo zvoniti na uzbunu sve alarme svuda ali vidim nitko ni da trepne.
rekli sa da nikakv locdown i policijski sat ne dolazi u obzir. to su Plenk ii HDZ rekli, i većina populacije em ih podržava, em je glasovala za njih i njihov model(SDP nudi zaključavanje ali je premoćno izgubio izbore) Lauc i Bakić koji izgleda kreiraju našu korona-politiku su ih hvalili danas na fejsu. Lauc je direktno uključen, a Bakić indirektno preko Lauca ova dvojiac svaki dan imaju rasprave i usklađivanje.. njih dva su ima par tjedana preuzeli RH korona politiku i naravno oni savjetuju Plenkija/stožer/HDZ a ovi udru blagoslov tome. I predsjednik Zoki je na istoj toj razini. njima se obratite
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