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Post by aben 9/6/2016, 14:48

Mama i tata plaćaju a ti lunpuješ? :)


Ali, jo ne vidin depreaiju u privatnom sektoru, dapače, tu je dinamično, trguje se, radi, utajiva. Poduzetnici su optimisti, inače ne bi bili poduzetnici.
Uhljebi su jad, čemer, pesimizam, ne vide izlaz, uvijek ista ploća, bez mogućnisti kreativnosti, fleksibilnosti...

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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 15:00

povrsno citas, ne govorim o racunima i kako je tesko zaraditi dinar, nego usporedis zivotni tjedan tad i sad..
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Post by aben 9/6/2016, 15:40

razumin jo tebe, mama i tata osiguravaju temeljni dohodak, a ti umuješ s divojkama po stanovima i birtijama. 

dopuštan da  jedun de socijalistov vuče korene iz studentskih dana, ali meni je to doba ostalo u lošen sjećanju. mislin da je meni tote baš poče pucati socijalistički mentalitet;
jo sun bi pametan, učen, intelektualna elita, a moji glupi prijatelji su mi ploćali piti.

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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 15:57

a tebi su gremlini placali knjige i hranu :p

cascenje kao socinalisticki ritual, nije sve ni za bacit od nj
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Post by aben 9/6/2016, 16:14

knjige? vi ste imali prave knjige?!


ne, na obiteljskom sastanku je odlučeno da je moja sestra pametnija omene i da sva raspoloživa sredstva tribo usmjeriti na nju, jer nemo za dvoje. jo sun još tad misli da su skule potribne i da se ništo more dobiti išnjima, pa sun sun ploćo studiranje.

ma kakov ritual:) jo sun siromah bi i osto, 
jedino isčin sun zadržo obraz, neizgovoreno se znalo da me trpu u društvu jer sun in privloči žinske.

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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 16:43

to objasnjava izvor tvog:"jel nam to bas potrebno" stava..

privlacio si ih ko Betty neki dan? Kad si joj izdiktirao zadatak xD
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Post by aben 9/6/2016, 16:55

kic wrote:to objasnjava izvor tvog:"jel nam to bas potrebno" stava..



ne razumin, al imun takov stav? 



privlacio si ih ko Betty neki dan? Kad si joj izdiktirao zadatak xD

a ne sićun se na ča misliš, al očito je da ona instiktivno zno da more nasloniti glovu na moja prso, i da je tote sigurna.
tako još djelujen na bebe i turiste. iz nekog razloga mi veruju.

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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 19:18

meni je to pozitivan stav zapravo, iako zvuči čangrizavo..

oš' reć, ne osjete lopovsku-socijalističku auru od te? neg' reci, spomenuo si ekofašizam, šta misliš bi li oni podržali ideju da se ne drže životinje koje ne mogu više živjeti u divljini?
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Post by aben 9/6/2016, 19:33

Ali jo nemun stav jel nan to potriba, jo imun stav jel mi to potriba. Apsolutno prihvačan osobne izbore, potpuno mi je prihvaltljivo da neko imo bazen ukraj mora, optočen zlatom.




Annn, ne zun točno, ne mogu reći da je to nesto na ča utječen. Ali izostanak socijalizma mi nikad ni plus jer me čini bezosjećajnim- a apsolvirali smo da moromo biti osjećajni.

Cekoj, ki oni? Imos dvi negacije, ne morin odgonetnuti, pojednistavni mi...

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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 20:17

ekofašisti, oni su za povratak prirodi kakva je, ako to prihvatimo, mnoge vrste koje danas žive samo zahvaljujući ljudskoj ruci - nestaju, zar nije to kontradiktorno?

čitam neš o Sex Pistolsima, i piše da su inspirirani bili od ovih:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International

They rejected the idea that advanced capitalism's apparent successes—such as technological advancement, increased income, and increased leisure—could ever outweigh the social dysfunction and degradation of everyday life that it simultaneously inflicted.
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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 20:28

It is we [the workers] who built these palaces and cities, here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers. We can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins. We are going to inherit the earth. There is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie might blast and ruin its own world before it leaves the stage of history. We carry a new world here, in our hearts. [...] That world is growing in this minute.
— Buenaventura Durruti


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Post by aben 9/6/2016, 20:46

Muko isusova..
Morun malo napuniti mob, pa unda...

Jel kill em all tvoja replika?:)

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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 20:48

ma znaš kak to ide, otvoriš jedan Tab na wikiju, i nakon 15min imaš 10 wiki tabova pa me baca, ali ispada, što nisam znao, da Sid Vicious nije uopće svirao bas na snimanju jedinog albuma Sex Pistolsa.. bio je na hepatitisu xD
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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 21:02

The Sex Pistols' concert of 4 June 1976 at Manchester's Lesser Free Trade Hall was to become one of the most significant and mythologised events in rock history. Among the audience of forty people or so were many who became leading figures in the punk and post-punk movements: Pete Shelley and Howard Devoto, who organised the gig and were in the process of auditioning new members for the BuzzcocksBernard SumnerIan Curtis and Peter Hook, later of Joy DivisionMark E. Smith, later of the Fall; and Morrissey, later of the Smiths

znao sam da je Ian bio tamo, ali Morrissey..
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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 21:05

Christopher Nolan, director of the Batman movie The Dark Knight, has said that Vicious inspired the characterisation of The Joker, played by Heath Ledger. According to Nolan, "We very much took the view in looking at the character of the Joker that what's strong about him is this idea of anarchy. This commitment to anarchy, this commitment to chaos." Ledger's costar Christian Bale has claimed that Ledger drew inspiration from watching tapes of Vicious.


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Post by aben 9/6/2016, 22:51

kic wrote:ekofašisti, oni su za povratak prirodi kakva je, ako to prihvatimo, mnoge vrste koje danas žive samo zahvaljujući ljudskoj ruci - nestaju, zar nije to kontradiktorno?

čitam neš o Sex Pistolsima, i piše da su inspirirani bili od ovih:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International

[size=40]They rejected the idea that advanced capitalism's apparent successes—such as technological advancement, increased income, and increased leisure—could ever outweigh the social dysfunction and degradation of everyday life that it simultaneously inflicted.[/size]
Kompletna ljevica ne valja. Ne anarhizam, i ekofašisti, nego i blagi socijaldemokrati. Nevjerojatno je koliko puno riči su u stanju izgovoriti, i muljati, a sve samo da oduzmu pojedincu pravo da odlučuje sam. Mislim, ča fali da osnivaju zajednice unutar društva? Ali, ne, to moro biti sveobuhvatno. Puko sun od toga linka.

Ekofašisti bi definitivno wipe out dosta vrst. Ali to je vridno samo ko debatni žalac, jer dovodi ljevičare u kontradikciju, međutum, to nije razlog zoč su ekofašusti u krivu- jednostavno je krivo spasiti bilogoga na tuđi račun.

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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 23:20

da, nisam znao da su Sex Pistolsi bili toliko dirigirani zapravo, nekako objašnjava Bowievu izjavu da je sav Rock kao izmanipuliran u nečije svrhe, SP su brzo postali zapravo Pop, Englez danas može pjevati God save the queen ili Anarchy in the UK, a da uopće u glavi nema anti-rojalističke motive, tj to ga ne čini niti malo manje Englezom, kao da imaju drugu himnu..

malo ljudi čita Pinkera, u tom bi bilo rješenje, nastavnici i pop kultura 1984'tu kao novu Bibliju, mislim i meni se sviđa svašta nešto, ali oni bi najradije da se stvori takav svijet pa da se mogu boriti protiv nj.. a borci su nemili :)

danas me nazvala iz banke, preletio sam pol grada, ispalo da laže, samo sam se pokupio, nabijem te stara.. otud današnji punk trenutak :^0
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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 23:32

ipak mislim da mi fali baner, jer reloada cijelu stvar kad kliknem, a sad nemam na šta kliknit :/
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Post by kic 9/6/2016, 23:58

Critics of the Situationists frequently assert that their ideas are not in fact complex and difficult to understand, but are at best simple ideas expressed in deliberately difficult language, and at worst actually nonsensical. For example, anarchist Chaz Bufe asserts in Listen Anarchist! that "obscure situationist jargon" is a major problem in the anarchist movement.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International#Criticism



i sami znaju da su, snobovi..
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Post by kic 10/6/2016, 00:05

aben wrote: Mislim, ča fali da osnivaju zajednice unutar društva? Ali, ne, to moro biti sveobuhvatno.

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Post by kic 10/6/2016, 01:13



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