Rat u Ukraini - ozbiljna(moja) tema

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:

Evo i Zoka je lud

https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1623799386986741761

Hektorović wrote:

Ona Ruska ekipa oko Kremnine je osjetno bolje iskoordinirana i vođena od ove oko Ugledara.

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:

Hektorović wrote:

Ona Ruska ekipa oko Kremnine je osjetno bolje iskoordinirana i vođena od ove oko Ugledara.

pa da, to sam i naglasio par puta, kod Kremine su se prvo uspješno branili i najviše snimaka UKR gubitaka što sam stavljao je dolazilo sa toga dijela fronte. Sada su još u protu napadu vratili par km teritorija.  Dovoljno mi je vidjeti količinu videa koja izlazi na nekom dijelu fronte i koja je strana pušta, odmah znam kakvo je stanje na fronti. Instikti ne varaju tu.  

Zatim imamo Bahmut front, gdje Wagnerovci iako trpe ogromne gubitke, jednostavno idu naprijed. Ukrainci sami kukaju kako im se teško boriti protiv ovih, da se ne povlače Wangerovci(to kod njih znači streljanje), da im je teže se boriti vs Wangerovaca koji imaju RPG i Kalaš i puno manje teškog oružja nego drugdje.  Svako malo izlaze snimke Wangerovih gubitaka, UKR dosta manje, međutim Ukrainci kukaju kako su ovo nehumani ratnici. Da se ne povlače , da idu naprijed itd. Ostaje jedino nada Ukrancima a to tvrdi Strelkov, da je Wanger pri kraju svojih resursa... a do tada bi Bahmut mogao pasti.

Onda se spuštamo u predgrađa Donjecka, Mariinku i Adiivku, isto tako vidimo tu i tamo videa gubitaka na obje strane, ali Ruskih je malo više. Ostaje činjenica da su do sada 20x puta proglasili ova dva predgrađa osvojena da bi ispalo šipak. To je dobro za Ukraince doslovno su godinu dana nakon početka rata u predgrađu Donjecka. To je kao da Njemačka napadne u WW2 Poljsku radi spajanja Danziga sa Reichom, pa onda godinu dana kasnije Poljaci u predgrađu Danziga.. gledao sam snimke tih predgrađa, doslovno izgledaju kao mjesečeva površina. Fora je čak da i nema ruševina, svaka ruševina je nekoliko puta pogođena granatom i kuće su doslovno smrvljene. Mislim da je na ta dva predgrađa palo najviše granata u povijesti rata bilo gdje na svijetu. I fora mi je kako to Ukrainci drže. Rusi krenu naprijed i budu iz nekog razloga odbijeni i povuku se uz gubitke. Moja teorija je da su jednostavno godinama prije rata Ukrainci se doslovno ukopali duboko ispod zemlje u sistem fortifikacija. Nema drugog objašnjenja.

Ugljedar smo komentirali već zadnjih tjedana dan...

Hektorović wrote:Zanimljivost, Rusi upravo napuštaju EMR digitalnu kamuflažu i od proljeća prelaze na svoju varijantu Multicama. 

The issue here is a bit broader than just that OKB Gardarika, which sews things from shitty fabrics having zero experience, and sells them for the price of Cry Precision, is the most expensive dressmaker in the world (which is not an exaggeration, really).

The issue is that Shoigu's ministry has eagerly agreed to buy it all. Shoigu, who fucked up all the mobilization reserves of supply. When they came to the warehouses and they were empty. Everything was sold and stolen over the years. All fighters are clothed by our good people, whether they are mobilized or regular servicemen. Not only dresses them, but provides them with equipment. Sights. Quadcopters. And even vehicles (jeeps).

How this completely incompetent motherfucker hasn't been fired yet, I don't know. He's been lying all these years to everyone, from the people and the soldiers to the president. And he's already lost the credibility of the former. It's up to the latter to decide. Putin can change the situation in any way, only he can remove this charlatan and his entourage from the general staff from any involvement with the Russian Army!

Or we will be defeated. A loud defeat. A heavy defeat. One that will scar the hearts of many more generations of Russians!

What kind of material is the uniform made of?

Cheap Chinese knockoffs. Otherwise you can't make money for caviar and luxury cars.

The founder, (son of a cunt of a man) carried the Victory Banner to Red Square. Not because he proved himself in the Preobrazhensky Regiment, but because his father decided so.

Then the son smashed up the tesla on the road in a drunken rage. But that's all right, he'll buy ten more.

Reality in Russia: Mobiks and the military are dying in gorkas that are purchased by the regions.

At the same time, a fucked-up kid with a bureaucrat father sells Chinese shit to the army for the price of 100 sets of VKBO summer uniforms.

Igor Ivanovich Strelkov
Since the debacle near Ugledar is already widely known (there are a lot of videos posted on the net, filmed by drones of Kiev's partners) - I will have to comment on the matter personally (I did not want to do this earlier, as well as to report the losses).

It seems as if all the events of the past year have moved past our generals. Moreover, since some of them are (at least - from the moment of their entering military academies) total morons - all the mistakes that were made before were repeated in an exemplary manner. Without any air cover or anti-aircraft defenses, the progress of the tank and motorized columns along the narrow roads along the sparse wooded areas on perfectly flat terrain (as there were minefields on either side) ended in defeat. Some of the equipment was destroyed by anti-tank guided missiles (launched from high-rise buildings in Ugledar), while others were hit by enemy artillery, firing with exceptional precision. More than 30 armored vehicles were lost (I will not give a breakdown by type), losses of "two-hundredths" only of tankers were many tens. The number of killed Marines, commandos and motorized riflemen was even more. And - most importantly - all these losses turned out to be "one-sided" - the Ukranians shot at the attackers "like in a shooting gallery", our fighters could not inflict counter losses on them. The enemy again without much difficulty held its positions in the fortified area, which had already been tried many times last spring and summer (also "head-on").

At the same time, our military commanders (so as not to "stand up twice") customarily sent battalions of the former DNR NM and volunteer units to Avdeevka for slaughter on familiar terrain in the Donetsk "industrial zone" (they had attempted to assault there dozens of times). Without supporting them with any decent artillery fire (which was extremely inaccurate) or armored vehicles (which were "saved from mines"). and the area could not be cleared of mines for technical reasons.) Two more companies of assault infantry were killed with the same result as before - that is, to no avail.

In general, that was the end of the "Russian army offensive on the entire Donetsk front," which had been widely announced online by the "hooray warriors. Enhanced by the mutiny (refusal to take up positions) of a battalion of Tyva nomads and more (as a matter of principle, I do not report anything about such events until they have been "leaked" to the net and made available to the public).

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:tako bi bilo i kod nas da izbije rat. Banožić ministar obrane, Zoki je dobro rekao on i hrpa debila išli u Osijek kupovati diplome, a onaj luđak HDZovac Luka Bačić iz Splita(u Splitu najjači ekonomski fakultet u državi a lik ide u Osijek po diplomu) i bia upisa ratnu školu koja prima 20-30ljudi, luđak ukra misto nekom profesionalcu koji godinama trenira, spava u šumi i uči vojnu teoriju i dođe ovakav debil povlači HDZovske veze da izbaci takvog profića iz vojne službe.. možeš misliti kao to "motivira" ostale vojnike u OS-RH kada je sve "na vezu" kao u Ruskoj vojsci. Radiš selekciju debila koji postaju zapovjednici i generali, a sposobni odlaze iz vojske., i takav luđak bi također sutra ovo malo mladosti što je ostalo u državi također sla u samoubilačke napade kao Rusi na Ugljedar.

Prije toga bia onaj debil Krstičević, OK kao vojnik u domovinskom ratu je bia dobar prašinar, ali kao ministar.. koji je fijasko se desio sa nabavom aviona...dok Ukr vojska koje praktički 2014 nije niti postojala a ono malo što su imali, 90% oficira su bili korumpirani, pro-Rusi, na platnoj listi FSBa, neposobni, zato su i popušili 2014-2015 protiv Rusije koja bi ušla sa jednom armijom i porazila ih bez avijacije i projektila.. međutim jebeno je kako su sredili vojsku, prije svega ljudski kadar, Porošenko je tu napravia odlične reforme od cijele vojne industrije do oficirskog kadra, Zelenski nastavio.

RH vojska onako po pričama mi djeluje dosta kao RU armija samo nas ima 100x manje, sa druge strane oni nesretni Srbi se donekle trude, valjda zbog iskustva poraza 90tih .. tako barem dojam se ostavlja

sreća da smo u NATOu

We think that over the past days everyone has already seen sad footage of the defeat of our column of armored vehicles near Ugledar, so we see no point in repeating and disassembling it.

We will talk about the main reason for what happened - irresponsibility. Colleagues asked a rhetorical question about whether anyone would be punished for it. The answer to it is simple - no, it won't. The assault on Ugledar is now under the guidance of the same mediocre characters who stormed Pavlovka in early November. These people then killed a significant number of personnel and equipment, did not bear any responsibility for it, after which, with the same incompetence, they began to storm Ugledar.

Impunity always gives rise to permissiveness. Wasn't there a punishment for one act? So you can safely allow the following without fear, because they won't be punished anyway. In the worst case, they will be transferred to Syria away from sight or even raise it. The reason for the panic actions of fighters and commanders at the time of hitting the minefield and under artillery fire also lies in the consequences of the leadership of past operations, according to the results of the losses suffered in which the personnel of the units, to a greater extent, now consist of mobilized soldiers and officers who are undertrained and do not have the necessary experience.

Therefore, until there are public trials in the country to punish not only the mobilized who started a conflict with their officer, but also to punish officers, especially high-ranking officials, who repeatedly demonstrate failures on the battlefield, we will be doomed to endlessly step on the same rake. And this will happen no matter how long it takes since the beginning of hostilities.

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:
Ukrainska legija stranaca , taman trenutak uhvatio Ruski kornet kako je pogodio vozilo kraj kojeg su ovi bili. poginuo je jedan , ne znam za druge, moguće i drugi. Bahmut, navodno sa 4km dometa

https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1624140044662349824

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:
Kao što vidite , Ukrainski MOD tvrdi da su ubili skoro 140 000 rusa. Kada bi dodao ranjene, to bi značilo gotovo 600 000 Ruskih gubitaka, a Ruska kopnena vojska je imala 360 000 vojnika prije rata. (na Ukrainu je išlo cca 220 000 - 250 000). sa 600 000 gubitaka, to bi značilo da su likvidirane skoro dvije Ruske kopnene armije , cijelo ljudstvo. Znači izbrisana cijela invazijska sila, izbrisana cijela kopnena vojska koja je išla pomoći, i izbrisana još jedna skoro cijela kopnena vojska :D
Da je to istina, rat bi se sada vodio ispred Moskve a ne Bahmuta.

E fora uništili su Ukrainci 3300 tenkova, a Rusi su imali 3500 aktivnih tenkova prije rata. Što bi značilo da su Rusi ostali bez tenkova.
Čisto malo perspektive.