Denkverbot

kic wrote:
volim kako je nagazio Ibsena, taj lik nudi samo pakao i uvijeknsam to osjecao instinktivno i govorio..  modernu literaturu su sveli na prikaze opačina, a evo kako jedan Chesterton gleda lijepo na čovjeka: misteriozne oči, čudesni palčevi i lubanja puna čudnih snova te sposobnosti za divne emocije: ljubav prema djeci, životinjama ..  

kic wrote:
to sam mislio stavit da, oduzelo nam generalizaranje :))

kic wrote:
da da, vidim tebe u nj mislima pomalo

izgleda da ga zele proglasiti blazenim

Arab expansion—and especially what could be called the Asianization of the Arab-Islamic polity under the Abbasid dynasty from the mid-second/eighth century on—had thrown
open an eastward-facing window of trade and travel. The new age is summed up in a saying attributed to al-Manṣūr, the second Abbasid caliph and builder of Baghdad. Standing on the bank of the river of the recently founded imperial city and watching the silks and porcelain unloading, he exclaimed, “Here is the Tigris, and nothing bars the way between it and China!”

In China, his merchandise was taken illegally by an official, but his case reached the ears of the emperor, who chastised the official concerned: “You . . . wanted [this merchant] to return by way of these same kingdoms, telling everyone in them, ‘I was treated unjustly in China and my property was seized by force’!”19 By rights, the emperor said, the official should have been put to death for his action. The message is plain: bad publicity would damage China’s reputation as a stable market and a serious trading partner, and that damage would spread across the whole vast continent of Asia. Then, as now, it was supply and demand that propelled and steered the ship of trade, but it was confidence that kept it afloat.

If a man incurs the loss of other people’s capital and his creditors then have him imprisoned in the ruler’s jail pending restitution of their money, an acknowledgement of the debt is first obtained from him. Then, if and when he has remained in jail for a month, the ruler has him brought out and has a public proclamation made over him: “This man, So-and-so, son of So-andso, has incurred the loss of the capital of So-and-so, son of So-and-so!” And if it then transpires that he has any money deposited with anyone or owns real estate or slaves or anything else that would cover his debt, he is brought out at the end of every subsequent month and beaten a number of times on the buttocks with wooden staves. This is because he has been staying in the jail, eating and drinking at government expense, when in fact he does own property: thus he is beaten, and whether or not anyone acknowledges that the debtor owns property, he is beaten all the same. They say, “Have you nothing better to do than to take what rightfully belongs to others and make off with it?” And they also tell him, “You must have some means of finding what you owe those people.” But if, in fact, he does have no way out of the situation, and if the ruler is convinced that he really does own nothing, then the creditors are summoned and paid what they are owed from the treasury of the Baghbūn (this is the Great King, but his title is “the Baghbūn,” which means “the Son of Heaven”; we Arabic-speakers call him “the Maghbūn”). After this, another public proclamation is made: “Whosoever does business with this bankrupt will be put to death!” As a result, hardly anyone ever loses money in this way. Also, if it emerges that the debtor does indeed have money deposited with someone else, and the latter has not admitted to having it, then that person will be beaten to death with wooden staves.

aben wrote:

kic wrote:
to sam mislio stavit da, oduzelo nam generalizaranje :))

jo ću na grobu dati da mi napišu- generalizirun, dakle postojin

kic wrote:

kic wrote:
https://youtu.be/ph2Ddo36wC4

attention is a higher order function than intellect

kic wrote:

Arab expansion—and especially what could be called the Asianization of the Arab-Islamic polity under the Abbasid dynasty from the mid-second/eighth century on—had thrown
open an eastward-facing window of trade and travel. The new age is summed up in a saying attributed to al-Manṣūr, the second Abbasid caliph and builder of Baghdad. Standing on the bank of the river of the recently founded imperial city and watching the silks and porcelain unloading, he exclaimed, “Here is the Tigris, and nothing bars the way between it and China!”

In China, his merchandise was taken illegally by an official, but his case reached the ears of the emperor, who chastised the official concerned: “You . . . wanted [this merchant] to return by way of these same kingdoms, telling everyone in them, ‘I was treated unjustly in China and my property was seized by force’!”19 By rights, the emperor said, the official should have been put to death for his action. The message is plain: bad publicity would damage China’s reputation as a stable market and a serious trading partner, and that damage would spread across the whole vast continent of Asia. Then, as now, it was supply and demand that propelled and steered the ship of trade, but it was confidence that kept it afloat.

arapi i kinezi free-traderi-

(čitam dva najstarija arapska putopisa, ne pitaj)

kic wrote:

If a man incurs the loss of other people’s capital and his creditors then have him imprisoned in the ruler’s jail pending restitution of their money, an acknowledgement of the debt is first obtained from him. Then, if and when he has remained in jail for a month, the ruler has him brought out and has a public proclamation made over him: “This man, So-and-so, son of So-andso, has incurred the loss of the capital of So-and-so, son of So-and-so!” And if it then transpires that he has any money deposited with anyone or owns real estate or slaves or anything else that would cover his debt, he is brought out at the end of every subsequent month and beaten a number of times on the buttocks with wooden staves. This is because he has been staying in the jail, eating and drinking at government expense, when in fact he does own property: thus he is beaten, and whether or not anyone acknowledges that the debtor owns property, he is beaten all the same. They say, “Have you nothing better to do than to take what rightfully belongs to others and make off with it?” And they also tell him, “You must have some means of finding what you owe those people.” But if, in fact, he does have no way out of the situation, and if the ruler is convinced that he really does own nothing, then the creditors are summoned and paid what they are owed from the treasury of the Baghbūn (this is the Great King, but his title is “the Baghbūn,” which means “the Son of Heaven”; we Arabic-speakers call him “the Maghbūn”). After this, another public proclamation is made: “Whosoever does business with this bankrupt will be put to death!” As a result, hardly anyone ever loses money in this way. Also, if it emerges that the debtor does indeed have money deposited with someone else, and the latter has not admitted to having it, then that person will be beaten to death with wooden staves.