Brexit

epikur37 wrote:Sabor bi trebao jasno poručiti Bruxellesu, a zatim i drugim zemljama članicama, da usprkos domaćim previranjima, u Hrvatskoj nije narušen konsenzus oko Europske unije. Sličnu poruku valjda će poslati, službeno i neslužbeno, HDZ, SDP i HNS svojim političkim obiteljima u Europskom parlamentu.

Sabalićka je zapela na 'Druže Tito mi ti se kunemo da sa tvoga puta ne skrećemo' mentalitetu.. sad bi one preplaćene punjene ptice u Bruxellesu još trebalo masovno uvjeravati da smo im bezuvjetno odani, valjda da im smanjimo stres i strah zbog Brexita?!

HarleyQ wrote:

epikur37 wrote:Sabor bi trebao jasno poručiti Bruxellesu, a zatim i drugim zemljama članicama, da usprkos domaćim previranjima, u Hrvatskoj nije narušen konsenzus oko Europske unije. Sličnu poruku valjda će poslati, službeno i neslužbeno, HDZ, SDP i HNS svojim političkim obiteljima u Europskom parlamentu.

Sabalićka je zapela na 'Druže Tito mi ti se kunemo da sa tvoga puta ne skrećemo' mentalitetu.. sad bi one preplaćene punjene ptice u Bruxellesu još trebalo masovno uvjeravati da smo im bezuvjetno odani, valjda da im smanjimo stres i strah zbog Brexita?!

Neka drhte.

Još ne shvacaju šta im se desilo a shvatit će za par dana.

Shupak ce im se stisnit od straha kad netko negdje samo spomene mogucnost izlaska iz eu ili eurozone.

Proanalizirat će sve i shvatit će da je osnovni razlog izlaska VB Iz EU bila imigracija , pretjerana imigracija.

Drhtat će ko žuti list na vjetru od toga.

SAD ĆE BUĐENJE.

Igrali su se i opekli su se tamo gdje su misli da je nemoguce .... i prošla baba s kolačima ....nazad nema a na svaki spomen da bi netko mogao izac iz eu radi necega sad će ozbiljno reagirat.

Ne znaju oni još šta se desilo jer im je ovo šok a shvatit će za koji dan.

Nevjerovatno.

RayMabus wrote:Igrali su se i opekli su se tamo gdje su misli da je nemoguce .... i prošla baba s kolačima ....nazad nema a na svaki spomen da bi netko mogao izac iz eu radi necega sad će ozbiljno reagirat.

Ne znaju oni još šta se desilo jer im je ovo šok a shvatit će za koji dan.

Nevjerovatno.

Čujem da tehnonazi psihopatska banda iz Brisela namjeravaju smanjit sadržaj limenki pića tako će još malo pivo od 0.5l otić u povijest a doć limenka od 0.4l. Naravno cijena se neće mijenjat na manje nego će ostat ista kao i za 0.5l a i viša. Cijene bujaju ko da ih kvascem posipaju. EU motherfukers!

Inače ne baš realan, ali sada odličan Dugin:

http://katehon.com/article/brexit-nothing-personal

The arguments for leaving the EU varied depending on which advocates you talked to. But the two most common arguments focused on the EU's liberal rules for internal migration and the EU's burdensome economic regulations.

Boris Johnson, a Conservative who was then mayor of London, wrote a typical case for Brexit back in February, focusing on the increasing concentration of power in the hands of unelected EU bureaucrats in Brussels:

The more the EU does, the less room there is for national decision-making. Sometimes these EU rules sound simply ludicrous, like the rule that you can’t recycle a teabag, or that children under eight cannot blow up balloons, or the limits on the power of vacuum cleaners. Sometimes they can be truly infuriating – like the time I discovered, in 2013, that there was nothing we could do to bring in better-designed cab windows for trucks, to stop cyclists being crushed. It had to be done at a European level, and the French were opposed.

On this view, the EU isn't just too meddlesome, it’s also undemocratic and unaccountable to the public.

"The issue of sovereignty of who governs you, is the most important question for any country," British journalist Douglas Murray told me in an interview last week. After two decades in which significant power resided in Brussels, Murray wants to return full authority to the peoples' elected representatives in the British Parliament.

While arguments about economic regulation and political sovereignty dominate the intellectual case for Brexit, the political appeal of Brexit relies heavily on the emotionally charged issue of immigration.

Britain refused to participate in the Schengen agreement and fully dismantle border controls with other EU countries. But EU law still requires members to admit an unlimited number of migrants from other EU countries. With the eurozone suffering from dismal economic performance, a lot of workers from less affluent EU states like Poland and Portugal have moved to the UK in search of work. There’s little Britain’s elected officials can do to stem these flows

asilovski wrote:Inače ne baš realan, ali sada odličan Dugin:

http://katehon.com/article/brexit-nothing-personal

Pa dobro piše nije baš fulao.

https://mises.org/blog/brexit-individualism-nationalism-globalism-0

Decentralization and devolution of state power is always a good thing, regardless of the motivations behind such movements.
Hunter S. Thompson, looking back on 60s counterculture in San Francisco, lamented the end of that era and its imagined flower-child innocence:

So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark — that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.

Does today’s Brexit vote similarly mark the spot where the once-inevitable march of globalism begins to recede? Have ordinary people around the world reached the point where real questions about self-determination have become too acute to ignore any longer? 
Globalism, championed almost exclusively by political and economic elites, has been the dominant force in the West for a hundred years. World War I and the League of Nations established the framework for multinational military excursions, while the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank set the stage for the eventual emergence of the US dollar as a worldwide reserve currency. Progressive government programs in Western countries promised a new model for universalism and peace in the aftermath of the destruction of Europe. Human rights, democracy, and enlightened social views were now to serve as hallmarks of a post-monarchical Europe and rising US.

Ultimately, Brexit is not a referendum on trade, immigration, or the technical rules promulgated by the (awful) European Parliament. It is a referendum on nationhood, which is a step away from globalism and closer to individual self-determination. Libertarians should view the decentralization and devolution of state power as ever and always a good thing, regardless of the motivations behind such movements. Reducing the size and scope of any single (or multinational) state’s dominion is decidedly healthy for liberty.

Britsi kažu: Vox populi vox Dei.

Since I was 100% wrong in my prediction regarding Brexit, you can take my following observations with a grain of salt. But this is what I see:

• This further cements the coming showdown between the people and the establishment (politicians, bankers, mainstream media).
  
• The EU is dead. France, Italy and other EU countries will push for the same referendum and the people will vote out.
  
• The insolvent banks across Europe were never fixed. The central bankers just extended, pretended, and printed more debt. Bank failures will trigger further economic strife.
  
• The credibility of central bankers around the globe will completely disintegrate as their one trick pony method of easy money has proven to be an immense failure for the people.
  
• With the disintegration of the EU, the possibility of civil chaos and war with Russia goes up dramatically.
  
• It will be interesting to see if the Fed and their Wall Street banker puppeteers can stop the stock market from dropping by its destined 30% to 50%. The overvaluation is drastic and this could be the Lehman moment, or at least the Bear Stearns moment.
  
• The credibility of the corporate mainstream media has further disintegrated as they again have been revealed as nothing but propaganda mouthpieces for the establishment. Their anti-Brexit poll numbers were fake. They are not journalists, but cheerleaders for their corporate sponsors.
  
• The constant media bashing of Trump and cheerleading for Clinton will be disregarded by the silent majority in the U.S. Their polls and opinions can be completely ignored and dismissed. The people of this country who don’t live in NYC, DC, LA, or SF are pissed off. Their mood is dark. They want change. The only person who will give them change is Trump.
  
• I’m more convinced than ever that Trump will win the presidency in November. This is a Fourth Turning. The status quo never wins during a Fourth Turning.
  

asilovski wrote:Since I was 100% wrong in my prediction regarding Brexit, you can take my following observations with a grain of salt. But this is what I see:

• This further cements the coming showdown between the people and the establishment (politicians, bankers, mainstream media).
  
• The EU is dead. France, Italy and other EU countries will push for the same referendum and the people will vote out.
  
• The insolvent banks across Europe were never fixed. The central bankers just extended, pretended, and printed more debt. Bank failures will trigger further economic strife.
  
• The credibility of central bankers around the globe will completely disintegrate as their one trick pony method of easy money has proven to be an immense failure for the people.
  
• With the disintegration of the EU, the possibility of civil chaos and war with Russia goes up dramatically.
  
• It will be interesting to see if the Fed and their Wall Street banker puppeteers can stop the stock market from dropping by its destined 30% to 50%. The overvaluation is drastic and this could be the Lehman moment, or at least the Bear Stearns moment.
  
• The credibility of the corporate mainstream media has further disintegrated as they again have been revealed as nothing but propaganda mouthpieces for the establishment. Their anti-Brexit poll numbers were fake. They are not journalists, but cheerleaders for their corporate sponsors.
  
• The constant media bashing of Trump and cheerleading for Clinton will be disregarded by the silent majority in the U.S. Their polls and opinions can be completely ignored and dismissed. The people of this country who don’t live in NYC, DC, LA, or SF are pissed off. Their mood is dark. They want change. The only person who will give them change is Trump.
  
• I’m more convinced than ever that Trump will win the presidency in November. This is a Fourth Turning. The status quo never wins during a Fourth Turning.
  

Najebat će RH brutalno.

gledaj ti koliko mi nemamo pojma o bilo čemu, naime pred borisovom kućom protivnici izlaska su vrijeđali dotičnog i Telekurton je objavio članak:

[size=46]Svi dijele snimke bijesnih Londončana svih generacija koji su se okupili pred kućom Borisa Johnsona, neviđeno ga vrijeđajući[/size]

ono neviđeno, a komentator ispod:

Ljiljana Martinović
Obzirom da Englezi znaju vrlo dobro organizirati prosvjede, moglo bi se dogoditi da prosvjedi paraliziraju kraljevstvo, i da nezadovoljni iznude novi referendum. Ovaj sero.ja bi mogao doživjeti tešku blamažu. Jer, na ulice bi izašli i oni koji su glasovali za izlazak iz EU, nakon što je na TV priznao da ih je slagao. Kako god, od danas je politički mrtvac; ovo mu Englezi neće oprostiti.


heheh Hrvati su kmetija neviđe, osim toga oni ne suštinski ne shvaćaju što je britanija, a posebice da su ovo prosvjedi onih koji su izgubili jučer, a jedini mtvac je Cameron

asilovski wrote:gledaj ti koliko mi nemamo pojma o bilo čemu, naime pred borisovom kućom protivnici izlaska su vrijeđali dotičnog i Telekurton je objavio članak:

[size=46]Svi dijele snimke bijesnih Londončana svih generacija koji su se okupili pred kućom Borisa Johnsona, neviđeno ga vrijeđajući[/size]

ono neviđeno, a komentator ispod:

Ljiljana Martinović
Obzirom da Englezi znaju vrlo dobro organizirati prosvjede, moglo bi se dogoditi da prosvjedi paraliziraju kraljevstvo, i da nezadovoljni iznude novi referendum. Ovaj sero.ja bi mogao doživjeti tešku blamažu. Jer, na ulice bi izašli i oni koji su glasovali za izlazak iz EU, nakon što je na TV priznao da ih je slagao. Kako god, od danas je politički mrtvac; ovo mu Englezi neće oprostiti.


heheh Hrvati su kmetija neviđe, osim toga oni ne suštinski ne shvaćaju što je britanija, a posebice da su ovo prosvjedi onih koji su izgubili jučer, a jedini mtvac je Cameron

Hrvati i pamet nespojivo kao isti polovi magneta. Kad hrvati idu prema pameti, pamet bježi kad pamet ide prema hrvatima, hrvati bježe. To se zove magnetic repulsion.

ajme što jutarnji kmeči, britaniju čeka egzodus i glad... koji jebeni agitprop moskovska pravda iz vremena brežnjeva

marcellus wrote:ajme što jutarnji kmeči, britaniju čeka egzodus i glad... koji jebeni agitprop moskovska pravda iz vremena brežnjeva

Pa budimo pošteni, niti večernji ne zaostaje u kmečanju.