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pa normalno kada cilj nije zaštita ljudi nego vječito pelcovanje, više puta godišnje...Gnječ wrote:Belgium: Recurrence Of The Disease Despite Vaccination
In Belgium, nearly 75 percent of the population is primo-vaccinated. And 65% of the population has a complete vaccination cycle. However, since the end of June 2021, the number of new daily infections has risen from less than 500 to nearly 2000. As RTBF acknowledges, in the face of the Delta variant, current vaccination is far from sufficient to protect the population.
tzv. covid potvrde će vrijediti samo do slijedeće doze...
tko je uzme, produžava se valjanost, tko ne uzme, stoji doma i ne miče...
i sretan je ako ga puste da stoji doma...
tako je već sada u nekim državama tipa tzv. zapadne demokracije...
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2014-04-14
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Israel: Obvious Post-Vaccination Disaster Denied By Officials
Israel, champion of the Pfizer injection, once everywhere cited as an example of effectiveness, is now being harshly reminded of reality and is now the model of vaccine failure.
70 percent of the population is primo-vaccinated, and nearly 90 percent of those at risk have a complete vaccination cycle. But the epidemic has rebounded stronger than ever since the end of June, and more than 11,000 new cases were recorded in 1 day (September 14, 2021) surpassing the peaks seen in January 2021 during the outbreak following the first Pfizer injections by nearly 50 percent.
This resumption of the epidemic, despite the Pfizer injections, is accompanied by an increase in hospitalizations where the vaccinated represent the majority of those hospitalized.
Vaccination does not protect against severe forms of the disease or against death.
End of July: 71 percent of the 118 seriously ill Israelis (serious, critical) were fully vaccinated!
This proportion of seriously ill people vaccinated is much higher than the proportion of fully vaccinated people: 61 percent. To claim that the vaccine protects against serious forms of the disease, as the Israeli Minister of Health imprudently declared, is a mistake (or disinformation?).
In order not to acknowledge its mistakes, the Israeli government remains in denial of this obvious failure and continues to propose only vaccination as a solution. How many more deaths will it take before it follows the example of India or Japan and finally adopts early treatment?
Israel, champion of the Pfizer injection, once everywhere cited as an example of effectiveness, is now being harshly reminded of reality and is now the model of vaccine failure.
70 percent of the population is primo-vaccinated, and nearly 90 percent of those at risk have a complete vaccination cycle. But the epidemic has rebounded stronger than ever since the end of June, and more than 11,000 new cases were recorded in 1 day (September 14, 2021) surpassing the peaks seen in January 2021 during the outbreak following the first Pfizer injections by nearly 50 percent.
This resumption of the epidemic, despite the Pfizer injections, is accompanied by an increase in hospitalizations where the vaccinated represent the majority of those hospitalized.
Vaccination does not protect against severe forms of the disease or against death.
End of July: 71 percent of the 118 seriously ill Israelis (serious, critical) were fully vaccinated!
This proportion of seriously ill people vaccinated is much higher than the proportion of fully vaccinated people: 61 percent. To claim that the vaccine protects against serious forms of the disease, as the Israeli Minister of Health imprudently declared, is a mistake (or disinformation?).
In order not to acknowledge its mistakes, the Israeli government remains in denial of this obvious failure and continues to propose only vaccination as a solution. How many more deaths will it take before it follows the example of India or Japan and finally adopts early treatment?
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Conclusions
The current pseudo vaccines are not effective enough. They do not prevent the recurrence of the epidemic, nor hospitalizations, nor severe forms, nor death. In Israel and Great Britain, which specify the vaccination status of the victims, the vaccinated suffer from an increased risk of mortality compared to the non-vaccinated.
The pursuit of a vaccine-only policy leads to a deadly impasse, whereas countries that officially advise early treatment (India) or allow their doctors to prescribe it (Japan, Korea) fare much better.
What are our health authorities waiting for to stop believing in false simulations carried out by epidemiologists who are too closely linked to vaccine companies, to look at the proven facts and to interrupt their deceptive and deleterious pro-vaccination campaign and recommend early treatment?
The continuation of the ban on early treatment by treating physicians leads to a loss of chances for many patients and directly engages the responsibility of the government and particularly the Minister of Health.
Translated from French by Global Research.
The current pseudo vaccines are not effective enough. They do not prevent the recurrence of the epidemic, nor hospitalizations, nor severe forms, nor death. In Israel and Great Britain, which specify the vaccination status of the victims, the vaccinated suffer from an increased risk of mortality compared to the non-vaccinated.
The pursuit of a vaccine-only policy leads to a deadly impasse, whereas countries that officially advise early treatment (India) or allow their doctors to prescribe it (Japan, Korea) fare much better.
What are our health authorities waiting for to stop believing in false simulations carried out by epidemiologists who are too closely linked to vaccine companies, to look at the proven facts and to interrupt their deceptive and deleterious pro-vaccination campaign and recommend early treatment?
The continuation of the ban on early treatment by treating physicians leads to a loss of chances for many patients and directly engages the responsibility of the government and particularly the Minister of Health.
Translated from French by Global Research.
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nemojte toliko gnojit je će se budaletina spustit s planine samo da natafrlja svoje tablice i grafikone.
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2017-09-13
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Study: Dramatic Decline In Effectiveness Of All COVID-19 Jabs
Published on November 9, 2021
As the Delta variant became the dominant strain of coronavirus across the United States, all three COVID-19 vaccines available to Americans lost some of their protective power, with vaccine efficacy among a large group of veterans dropping between 35 and 85 percent, according to a new study.
Researchers who scoured the records of nearly 800,000 U.S. veterans found that in early March, just as the Delta variant was gaining a toehold across American communities, the three vaccines were roughly equal in their ability to prevent infections.
But over the next six months, that changed dramatically.
By the end of September, Moderna’s two-dose COVID-19 vaccine, measured as 89 percent effective in March, was only 58 percent effective.
The effectiveness of shots made by Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine, which also employed two doses, fell from 87 to 45 percent in the same period.
And most strikingly, the protective power of Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose vaccine plunged from 86 to just 13 percent over those six months.
The findings were published Thursday in the journal Science.
SARS-CoV-2 vaccine protection and deaths among US veterans during 2021
https://web.archive.org/web/20211105043638/https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm0620
Published on November 9, 2021
As the Delta variant became the dominant strain of coronavirus across the United States, all three COVID-19 vaccines available to Americans lost some of their protective power, with vaccine efficacy among a large group of veterans dropping between 35 and 85 percent, according to a new study.
Researchers who scoured the records of nearly 800,000 U.S. veterans found that in early March, just as the Delta variant was gaining a toehold across American communities, the three vaccines were roughly equal in their ability to prevent infections.
But over the next six months, that changed dramatically.
By the end of September, Moderna’s two-dose COVID-19 vaccine, measured as 89 percent effective in March, was only 58 percent effective.
The effectiveness of shots made by Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine, which also employed two doses, fell from 87 to 45 percent in the same period.
And most strikingly, the protective power of Johnson & Johnson’s single-dose vaccine plunged from 86 to just 13 percent over those six months.
The findings were published Thursday in the journal Science.
SARS-CoV-2 vaccine protection and deaths among US veterans during 2021
https://web.archive.org/web/20211105043638/https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm0620
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pokerjocker wrote:nemojte toliko gnojit je će se budaletina spustit s planine samo da natafrlja svoje tablice i grafikone.
ne jebe mene pavlovljev sindrom uvjetovano ponašanje i takva slična sranja.
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a neka dođe, izgleda da mu je to jedina zabava u životu, ili neki pogreb..pokerjocker wrote:nemojte toliko gnojit je će se budaletina spustit s planine samo da natafrlja svoje tablice i grafikone.
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2018-06-14
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CDC Study Corrected: Reveals 80+ Percent Spontaneous Abortions After Jab
Published on November 8, 2021
Two researchers say countries should halt the administration of COVID-19 vaccines to pregnant and breastfeeding women after re-analyzing a study performed by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) researchers.
The study in question, published in the New England Journal of Medicine in April, has been used by the CDC and health agencies in other countries to justify vaccination recommendations to pregnant women and new mothers.
“A U.S. study of over 35,000 women who were pregnant and had an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine showed that the side effects following vaccination were very similar in those who were pregnant when compared to those who were not,” the Australian government says in a guide (pdf) to COVID-9 vaccination for women.
The study, though, was corrected last month after concerns were raised by a researcher in Belgium. The CDC scientists acknowledged they should have made clear that they could not accurately calculate a risk estimate for miscarriages because follow-up data was not yet available for most of the women.
The correction resolved some of the issues, but there are still more, according to Dr. Simon Thornley, a senior lecturer in the University of Auckland’s Section of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, and Dr. Aleisha Brock, another researcher in New Zealand.
“The article’s conclusions haven’t changed substantially as we believe is warranted from our re-analysis of the association related to early exposure to the vaccine in pregnancy, which indicates a substantially increased risk from background,” Thornley told The Epoch Times in an email.
Thornley and Brock re-analyzed the data and calculated the incidence of miscarriages in the first trimester was actually 82 percent to 91 percent in a paper (pdf) published in Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law.
Of the 827 pregnancies reported through the V-Safe registry, operated by the CDC, 712 resulted in a live birth. Nearly all of them were among women who were vaccinated in the third trimester. Of the other pregnancies, 104 resulted in miscarriage. Most of those occurred before 13 weeks of gestation.
Using data from the study and several estimates, the New Zealand researchers calculated that spontaneous abortions occurred in 81.9 percent to 91.2 percent of the women who were vaccinated before 20 weeks of gestation.
“We question the conclusions of the Shimabukuro et al. study to support the use of the mRNA vaccine in early pregnancy, which has now been hastily incorporated into many international guidelines for vaccine use, including in New Zealand,” the researchers said.
“The assumption that exposure in the third trimester cohort is representative of the effect of exposure throughout pregnancy is questionable and ignores past experience with drugs such as thalidomide. Evidence of safety of the product when used in the first and second trimesters cannot be established until these cohorts have been followed to at least the perinatal period or long-term safety determined for any of the babies born to mothers inoculated during pregnancy,” they added.
Pfizer, it was noted, says on its vaccine’s label that the available data on the vaccine “administered to pregnant women are insufficient to inform vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy.”
Spontaneous Abortions and Policies on COVID-19
mRNA Vaccine Use During Pregnancy
https://cf5e727d-d02d-4d71-89ff-9fe2d3ad957f.filesusr.com/ugd/adf864_2bd97450072f4364a65e5cf1d7384dd4.pdf
COMIRNATY- covid-19 vaccine, mrna injection, suspension
Pfizer Laboratories Div Pfizer Inc
http://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=15623
https://www.theepochtimes.com/cdc-recommends-pregnant-women-get-a-covid-19-vaccine_3789564.html
Spontaneous Abortion Following COVID-19 Vaccination During Pregnancy
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784193
Receipt of mRNA Covid-19 Vaccines and Risk of Spontaneous Abortion
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113891
The Epoch Times se plaća pa evo drugi link:
https://principia-scientific.com/cdc-study-corrected-reveals-80-percent-spontaneous-abortions-after-jab/
Published on November 8, 2021
Two researchers say countries should halt the administration of COVID-19 vaccines to pregnant and breastfeeding women after re-analyzing a study performed by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) researchers.
The study in question, published in the New England Journal of Medicine in April, has been used by the CDC and health agencies in other countries to justify vaccination recommendations to pregnant women and new mothers.
“A U.S. study of over 35,000 women who were pregnant and had an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine showed that the side effects following vaccination were very similar in those who were pregnant when compared to those who were not,” the Australian government says in a guide (pdf) to COVID-9 vaccination for women.
The study, though, was corrected last month after concerns were raised by a researcher in Belgium. The CDC scientists acknowledged they should have made clear that they could not accurately calculate a risk estimate for miscarriages because follow-up data was not yet available for most of the women.
The correction resolved some of the issues, but there are still more, according to Dr. Simon Thornley, a senior lecturer in the University of Auckland’s Section of Epidemiology and Biostatistics, and Dr. Aleisha Brock, another researcher in New Zealand.
“The article’s conclusions haven’t changed substantially as we believe is warranted from our re-analysis of the association related to early exposure to the vaccine in pregnancy, which indicates a substantially increased risk from background,” Thornley told The Epoch Times in an email.
Thornley and Brock re-analyzed the data and calculated the incidence of miscarriages in the first trimester was actually 82 percent to 91 percent in a paper (pdf) published in Science, Public Health Policy, and the Law.
Of the 827 pregnancies reported through the V-Safe registry, operated by the CDC, 712 resulted in a live birth. Nearly all of them were among women who were vaccinated in the third trimester. Of the other pregnancies, 104 resulted in miscarriage. Most of those occurred before 13 weeks of gestation.
Using data from the study and several estimates, the New Zealand researchers calculated that spontaneous abortions occurred in 81.9 percent to 91.2 percent of the women who were vaccinated before 20 weeks of gestation.
“We question the conclusions of the Shimabukuro et al. study to support the use of the mRNA vaccine in early pregnancy, which has now been hastily incorporated into many international guidelines for vaccine use, including in New Zealand,” the researchers said.
“The assumption that exposure in the third trimester cohort is representative of the effect of exposure throughout pregnancy is questionable and ignores past experience with drugs such as thalidomide. Evidence of safety of the product when used in the first and second trimesters cannot be established until these cohorts have been followed to at least the perinatal period or long-term safety determined for any of the babies born to mothers inoculated during pregnancy,” they added.
Pfizer, it was noted, says on its vaccine’s label that the available data on the vaccine “administered to pregnant women are insufficient to inform vaccine-associated risks in pregnancy.”
Spontaneous Abortions and Policies on COVID-19
mRNA Vaccine Use During Pregnancy
https://cf5e727d-d02d-4d71-89ff-9fe2d3ad957f.filesusr.com/ugd/adf864_2bd97450072f4364a65e5cf1d7384dd4.pdf
COMIRNATY- covid-19 vaccine, mrna injection, suspension
Pfizer Laboratories Div Pfizer Inc
http://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=15623
https://www.theepochtimes.com/cdc-recommends-pregnant-women-get-a-covid-19-vaccine_3789564.html
Spontaneous Abortion Following COVID-19 Vaccination During Pregnancy
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2784193
Receipt of mRNA Covid-19 Vaccines and Risk of Spontaneous Abortion
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113891
The Epoch Times se plaća pa evo drugi link:
https://principia-scientific.com/cdc-study-corrected-reveals-80-percent-spontaneous-abortions-after-jab/
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2015-09-14
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Amerika bi današnju Australiju prije dvi godine bombardirala da im uvede demokraciju.T. wrote:pa normalno kada cilj nije zaštita ljudi nego vječito pelcovanje, više puta godišnje...Gnječ wrote:Belgium: Recurrence Of The Disease Despite Vaccination
In Belgium, nearly 75 percent of the population is primo-vaccinated. And 65% of the population has a complete vaccination cycle. However, since the end of June 2021, the number of new daily infections has risen from less than 500 to nearly 2000. As RTBF acknowledges, in the face of the Delta variant, current vaccination is far from sufficient to protect the population.
tzv. covid potvrde će vrijediti samo do slijedeće doze...
tko je uzme, produžava se valjanost, tko ne uzme, stoji doma i ne miče...
i sretan je ako ga puste da stoji doma...
tako je već sada u nekim državama tipa tzv. zapadne demokracije...
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2015-09-14
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Stupidity: The inconceivable tendency to hurt ourselves and the others
What is human stupidity?
Cipolla manages to evade subjectivity by analyzing human relationships in terms of gains and losses. Thus he separates human stupidity from individual expectations to provide a more objective definition of stupidity. He considers that “A stupid person is one who causes harm to another person or group of people without obtaining, at the same time, a profit, or even harms himself.”
He also explains that there are super stupid behaviors: “There are people who, with their implausible actions, not only cause harm to other people, but also to themselves.” Unlike the evil one, who can harm the others for his own benefit, stupid behaviors only do damage around them and wreak havoc. Therefore, nobody wins. It is meaningless behavior.
Therefore, to classify a behavior as stupid, we could refer to three conditions:
1. Lack of practicality.
The person knows what he is doing, but he does it wrong. His behavior is neither practical nor functional, it is not an effective response to the situation, so often not only does it not solve the problem, it creates others.
2. Metacognitive myopia.
This concept by psychologist Klaus Fiedler refers to the stupid person’s inability to think about his thinking. This person is not capable of analyzing his reasoning process, he cannot make inferences beyond the given elements, so he is perfectly stupid.
3. Motivated ignorance.
The stupid person chooses motivated ignorance more or less consciously; that is, he refuses to know more, to deepen and try to understand. Despite this, as he has a huge ego, he often ends up in situations that require more skills and knowledge than he possess. The result is a disaster.
Motivated Ignorance: We are not born ignorant, we learn to be ignorant
What is Motivated Ignorance?
Motivated Ignorance is when we choose, more or less consciously, not to know more, not to deepen, not to understand. That ignorance is terribly dangerous because it tends to lead to extreme positions and curtails our ability to continue growing and maturing. When we decide to be ignorant, someone else will decide in our place. We become manipulable persons.
This Motivated Ignorance can occur in all areas of our lives. Some people begin to feel bad, but instead of going to the doctor to receive a diagnosis, they prefer to take refuge in ignorance assuming that everything is fine. Other people suspect that their partner is unfaithful but, instead of clearing their doubts, they choose to remain ignorant. The same happens at the political, social or religious level: when we already formed an idea, we choose not to listen or value the contrary arguments.
Why do we choose the Motivated Ignorance?
We choose to be ignorant to avoid cognitive dissonance. We have developed a conception of the world juggling our ideas and beliefs, and we fear that contrary opinions may destabilize that house of cards. That is why we prefer to ignore everything that does not match our vision. And that means that, in depth, motivated ignorance is an expression of fear.
How do we are inculcated that fear?
“The fear of our ignorance is a sensation that we have been systematically inculcated during the scholastic period. It’s the feeling that we do not know something that many know, so it’s better to keep quiet and conform”, said philologist Igor Sibaldi.
At school, ignorance is coated with a negative halo. There is where people start pointing the finger at the ignorant. And that generates a paradox because to overcome ignorance we must first recognize it, but we can not recognize it for fear of being labeled as ignorant. The writer Baltasar Gracian said that “The first step of ignorance is to presume to know”.
Getting rid of ignorance is not really difficult, you just need to inform yourself, “But that is impossible for the vast majority of people because the habit of feeling ignorant has become something stronger than their desire to learn”, according to Sibaldi.
Ignorance becomes a comfort zone in which we feel too comfortable to leave. Or maybe we do not even feel so comfortable, but the fear of what is outside, everything that challenges our beliefs, is so strong that it keeps us paralyzed in that comfort zone. Thus we choose ignorance.
The ignorant is not the one who does not know but the one who does not want to know. Therefore, the first step for getting rid of ignorance is to develop a mentality of growth, an open mind that allows us explore the greatest number of possibilities.
We can not get rid of our stereotypes and beliefs overnight, but we can question them and look beyond what we have always taken for granted. We should be more afraid of dying slowly every day in a comfort zone that will be narrowing more and more than going out to discover the world, however different or uncertain it may be.
What is human stupidity?
Cipolla manages to evade subjectivity by analyzing human relationships in terms of gains and losses. Thus he separates human stupidity from individual expectations to provide a more objective definition of stupidity. He considers that “A stupid person is one who causes harm to another person or group of people without obtaining, at the same time, a profit, or even harms himself.”
He also explains that there are super stupid behaviors: “There are people who, with their implausible actions, not only cause harm to other people, but also to themselves.” Unlike the evil one, who can harm the others for his own benefit, stupid behaviors only do damage around them and wreak havoc. Therefore, nobody wins. It is meaningless behavior.
Therefore, to classify a behavior as stupid, we could refer to three conditions:
1. Lack of practicality.
The person knows what he is doing, but he does it wrong. His behavior is neither practical nor functional, it is not an effective response to the situation, so often not only does it not solve the problem, it creates others.
2. Metacognitive myopia.
This concept by psychologist Klaus Fiedler refers to the stupid person’s inability to think about his thinking. This person is not capable of analyzing his reasoning process, he cannot make inferences beyond the given elements, so he is perfectly stupid.
3. Motivated ignorance.
The stupid person chooses motivated ignorance more or less consciously; that is, he refuses to know more, to deepen and try to understand. Despite this, as he has a huge ego, he often ends up in situations that require more skills and knowledge than he possess. The result is a disaster.
Motivated Ignorance: We are not born ignorant, we learn to be ignorant
What is Motivated Ignorance?
Motivated Ignorance is when we choose, more or less consciously, not to know more, not to deepen, not to understand. That ignorance is terribly dangerous because it tends to lead to extreme positions and curtails our ability to continue growing and maturing. When we decide to be ignorant, someone else will decide in our place. We become manipulable persons.
This Motivated Ignorance can occur in all areas of our lives. Some people begin to feel bad, but instead of going to the doctor to receive a diagnosis, they prefer to take refuge in ignorance assuming that everything is fine. Other people suspect that their partner is unfaithful but, instead of clearing their doubts, they choose to remain ignorant. The same happens at the political, social or religious level: when we already formed an idea, we choose not to listen or value the contrary arguments.
Why do we choose the Motivated Ignorance?
We choose to be ignorant to avoid cognitive dissonance. We have developed a conception of the world juggling our ideas and beliefs, and we fear that contrary opinions may destabilize that house of cards. That is why we prefer to ignore everything that does not match our vision. And that means that, in depth, motivated ignorance is an expression of fear.
How do we are inculcated that fear?
“The fear of our ignorance is a sensation that we have been systematically inculcated during the scholastic period. It’s the feeling that we do not know something that many know, so it’s better to keep quiet and conform”, said philologist Igor Sibaldi.
At school, ignorance is coated with a negative halo. There is where people start pointing the finger at the ignorant. And that generates a paradox because to overcome ignorance we must first recognize it, but we can not recognize it for fear of being labeled as ignorant. The writer Baltasar Gracian said that “The first step of ignorance is to presume to know”.
Getting rid of ignorance is not really difficult, you just need to inform yourself, “But that is impossible for the vast majority of people because the habit of feeling ignorant has become something stronger than their desire to learn”, according to Sibaldi.
Ignorance becomes a comfort zone in which we feel too comfortable to leave. Or maybe we do not even feel so comfortable, but the fear of what is outside, everything that challenges our beliefs, is so strong that it keeps us paralyzed in that comfort zone. Thus we choose ignorance.
The ignorant is not the one who does not know but the one who does not want to know. Therefore, the first step for getting rid of ignorance is to develop a mentality of growth, an open mind that allows us explore the greatest number of possibilities.
We can not get rid of our stereotypes and beliefs overnight, but we can question them and look beyond what we have always taken for granted. We should be more afraid of dying slowly every day in a comfort zone that will be narrowing more and more than going out to discover the world, however different or uncertain it may be.
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naravno, a još bolji je "stručni" argument da svaki lijek ima nuspojave i ne postoji lijek koji nema...samo što te za te lijekove nitko ne vuče za rukav i gura ti ih u usta kao potpuno zdravoj osobi i uvjetuje ti korištenje istih da bi mogao biti dio društva i koristiti usluge istoga.violator wrote:
Nevjerojatna mi je ta kolicina gaslightinga kojom se usutkavaju oni koji ukazuju na zdravstvene probleme i/li simptome koje prije cijepljenja nisu imali. Ali matematicki eticari, kad ih se pritisne, reci ce na to - ah, desava se.
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ebenica wrote:naravno, a još bolji je "stručni" argument da svaki lijek ima nuspojave i ne postoji lijek koji nema...samo što te za te lijekove nitko ne vuče za rukav i gura ti ih u usta kao potpuno zdravoj osobi i uvjetuje ti korištenje istih da bi mogao biti dio društva i koristiti usluge istoga.violator wrote:
Nevjerojatna mi je ta kolicina gaslightinga kojom se usutkavaju oni koji ukazuju na zdravstvene probleme i/li simptome koje prije cijepljenja nisu imali. Ali matematicki eticari, kad ih se pritisne, reci ce na to - ah, desava se.
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Noor- Posts : 25907
2017-10-06
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
Nebitna manjina u australiji traži nekakva prava...mutava baštarda wrote:Amerika bi današnju Australiju prije dvi godine bombardirala da im uvede demokraciju.T. wrote:pa normalno kada cilj nije zaštita ljudi nego vječito pelcovanje, više puta godišnje...Gnječ wrote:Belgium: Recurrence Of The Disease Despite Vaccination
In Belgium, nearly 75 percent of the population is primo-vaccinated. And 65% of the population has a complete vaccination cycle. However, since the end of June 2021, the number of new daily infections has risen from less than 500 to nearly 2000. As RTBF acknowledges, in the face of the Delta variant, current vaccination is far from sufficient to protect the population.
tzv. covid potvrde će vrijediti samo do slijedeće doze...
tko je uzme, produžava se valjanost, tko ne uzme, stoji doma i ne miče...
i sretan je ako ga puste da stoji doma...
tako je već sada u nekim državama tipa tzv. zapadne demokracije...
Nevjerojatno je da još ima onih koji ne vjeruju da im medicinska struka i političari samo žele dobro...
Te da im se prava oduzimaju u njihovom vlastitom interesu...
T.- Posts : 17557
2014-04-14
Age : 83
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Jel ovo neka nova tema ili su samo izbrisani nepotrebni upisi?
inace prosvjeduje se po cijelom svijetu ali nema toga u fer i korektnom izvjestavanju.
inace prosvjeduje se po cijelom svijetu ali nema toga u fer i korektnom izvjestavanju.
newuser- Posts : 1995
2015-09-09
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
Ako se to i dogodi, što nije isključeno, ja tu na malo što mogu bitnije utjecati. U veljači sam bio sa simptomima, izgurao to za nekih 10tak dana. Nakon toga intenzivno bio u kontaktu sa velikim brojem ljudi red veličine nekoliko tisuća od svakuda... U tih 6 mjeseci čak bio i zadužen da prvi ulazim u kontaminirani prostor i da ga raskužujem, stavljao sam tu čak i sllike specijalnog pištolja za rasprskavanje specijalnog dezinfekcijskog sredstva.ljubo1212 wrote:kažem ti ja, kod tebe su svi dokazi, nadam se da nećeš i osobno svjedočitimichaellcmacha wrote:Tvrdi što hoćeš, ja sam samo iznio situaciju. Rade je bio zdrava osoba. Zbog potrebe službe po preporuci nadređenih i u dogovoru sa zdravstvenim vlastima i dotični i ostali kolege su se cijepili. Detalje o statusu i umrlog i njegovih kolega iznijele su kolegice sa upravnih poslova koje susjeduju u istom objektu gdje je i pprp sisak.ljubo1212 wrote:samo u tvojoj okolini dovoljno je materijala za ustvrditi da cijepljenje opasno šteti...i tu svaki razgovor s tobom treba statimichaellcmacha wrote:Još jedan moj kolega je tokom prošle noći umro. Bio je dvodozno cijepljen, bez komorbiditeta. 64to godište... Zarazio ga je također cijepljeni kolega u dežurstvu pprp sisak... Uz njih dvojicu još 4 bivše kolege su također i pozitivni i sa simptomima... Svi cijepljeni...Eroo wrote:Učinkovitost ili neučinkovitost cjepiva se iskazuje brojevima, prije svega hospitaliziranih,
onda i umrlih. Na sličan način se dokazuju i eventualne nus pojave od cjepiva.
Dakle, veoma je jednostavno, ne treba se razbacivati kojekakvim tekstovima,
brojevi su ono po čemu znamo što se događa tijekom epidemije.
Oni su dopstupni na svjetskim portalima, a prikazani su s tekstualno ili s dijagramima.
Za moj ukus tu su Talijani i talijanski mediji tri koplja iznad drugih u Eu.
Ali ne lezi vraže, problemi se gomilaju... Evo moj šogor također dvodozno cijepljen od sinoć se iznimno loše osjeća, ima povišenu temperaturu i jadan čeka da mu danas doktor počne raditi, kako bi mogao dobiti uputnicu za testiranje...jutros smo malo razgovarali i vidi se da je čovjek splašen, a to samo dodatno oslabljuje narušen imunitet
Na stranu to ja tebi ne želim ništa lošega neovisno s koliko doza si se cijepio. Nadam se da si svjestan dadda te cjepivo uopće ne štiti ukoliko si osobno predisponiran da se teškoteško ili nikako nosiš sa akutnim stanjem ove bolesti.
Uglavnom evo još nekih zanimljivih detalja iz našeg svakodnevnog života. Razred mog najmlađeg sina je bio u izolaciji zato jer su 3 učenika bila pozitivna na coronavirus.
Nakon završetka izolacije i tih 3 pozitivnih i kontakata uključujući i mog sina, danas mi sin prepričava što su pozitivni pričali kako su odbolovali. Jedan je išao sa starim u šumu jer nije imao apsolutno nikakvih simptoma. Drugi je šmrcao i uglavnom se kladio po kući uz komp i mobitel a treći je od 11 dandana izolacije 2 dana imao temperaturu i još 3 dana zajebanciju sa sekretom iz nosa...
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michaellcmacha- Posts : 21325
2015-08-08
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
Nakon određenog broja upisa reducira se tema i onda deri daljenewuser wrote:Jel ovo neka nova tema ili su samo izbrisani nepotrebni upisi?
inace prosvjeduje se po cijelom svijetu ali nema toga u fer i korektnom izvjestavanju.
michaellcmacha- Posts : 21325
2015-08-08
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
Nitko ti nije rekao da ima i Andol 75... Njega možeš uzimati i ne budeš krvario.Eroo wrote:Nego kako? Pametan čovjek i sam prouči svoju bolest i prati učinak lijekova na njih.michaellcmacha wrote:Jebiga i to je sastavni dio života, kroz neko vrijeme što od bolesti što od starosti mnogi od nas će završiti svoj mandat. Inače dobro si uočio neke nelogičnosti za koje mjerodavni ne nalaze za shodno da ih razjasne široj javnosti. Uglavnom sad kad budem u prilici otići doktoru, tražit ću ga da mi za svaku od pojedinih vrsta lijekova preporuči još minimalno dvije alternative pa da si ja izaberem što mi pašeebenica wrote:žao mi je miha :/michaellcmacha wrote:Još jedan moj kolega je tokom prošle noći umro. Bio je dvodozno cijepljen, bez komorbiditeta. 64to godište... Zarazio ga je također cijepljeni kolega u dežurstvu pprp sisak... Uz njih dvojicu još 4 bivše kolege su također i pozitivni i sa simptomima... Svi cijepljeni...Eroo wrote:Učinkovitost ili neučinkovitost cjepiva se iskazuje brojevima, prije svega hospitaliziranih,
onda i umrlih. Na sličan način se dokazuju i eventualne nus pojave od cjepiva.
Dakle, veoma je jednostavno, ne treba se razbacivati kojekakvim tekstovima,
brojevi su ono po čemu znamo što se događa tijekom epidemije.
Oni su dopstupni na svjetskim portalima, a prikazani su s tekstualno ili s dijagramima.
Za moj ukus tu su Talijani i talijanski mediji tri koplja iznad drugih u Eu.
Imao sam otekline po tijelu zbog jednog "lijeka" protiv masnoća - zamijenio drugim i sve ok.
Skoro sam iskrvario zbog aspirina Protect 100, koji sam trebao uzimati doživotno,
prestao uzimati i sve bilo ok nakon toga.
Vjerojatno si trošio lacipil pa ti je prepisani neki generik... Pokazalo se da je taj zamjenski dosta loš lijek u smislu nuspojava koje su čak i opasne po život... Moja mati je jedva preživjela jedan alergijski eksces kojeg je uzrokovao taj neki zamjenski lijek
michaellcmacha- Posts : 21325
2015-08-08
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
Ja sam ajmo reći imao sreću da sam kao prvo dobio vrhunsku odnosno najkvalitetniju mrežicu u tom trenutku (CRO co3), mada šteta tajminga da me klepilo samo 100 dana kasnije i da me zapao isti tim, ugradili bi mi biorazgradivu mrežicu, tak da bi danas bio stentfree organizam... :)))... Ali dobro.... malo železa u potkoljenicama, komadić u plećki, onda može i ta "čelična" oprugica na ulazu u srčani mišić
michaellcmacha- Posts : 21325
2015-08-08
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
Vlada je u utorak prijavila rekordan broj umrlih na dnevnoj osnovi - 1211 te 39.160 novozaraženih, dok je u subotu bilo 41.335 novozaraženih.
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