Pariz: Odsekao glavu uz Alah Akber

epikur37 wrote:

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aben wrote:

epikur37 wrote:znao sam da ćeš lupit na historicizam i to ti je jedina moneta za kritiku...

ali koja i ne stoji, društvo je živo biće i ima svoja pravila ponašanja :)

kaove to veze ima is historicizmon?

to da je društvo živo biće, ti razumiš da je to metafora, right?

pravla ponašanja su u tome da je predvidljivo kako će se društvo ponašati u određenoj situaciji, da ima svoje amplitude pa čak i zakonitosti

to je toliko jasno neistinito, da ću ti dati malo vrimena da se ispraviš. vjerojatno si piso pripreme, pa se umori.
uglovnomu, 
i somo predvidjanje more utjecati na ishod, ko napr. predvidjanje kretanja cijene dijonica

preporučujen ti knjigu bijeda historicizma, vrlo pitka knjižica, nodun se da će ti pomoći.

Možda si krivo shvatio, kasna je ura, ili sam se ja krivo izrazio,  ali moje stanovište je protiv historicizma.

Vjerujem u obrasce ponašanja, pojedinca i društva, neovisno o povijesnom kontekstu.

Pa tako povratno i na ovu popčetnu diskusiju, gola priroda se vraća a ovi vaš liberalni val se poravnava i prolazi.

ali, ako veruješ u to, unda znoš da su trendovi irelevantni. je, za vrime nixona je bilo više slobodnjaka, danas ih je manje, a ča to govori o naravi pravednog drustva? nišće. ti ko da pokušavaš stati na provu stronu povijesti gljedono po trendovima; tipa koja će partija izplivati, da bi uskoči u njenu kompoziciju. 
imun jedun posto na mobu, pa morun sendati, ali, čuti ćeš me sutra još, znoš

Trendovi su irelevantni ali obrasci nisu..

Ja sam svoje posaugao za večeras....

Upravo to i jest historicizam, inzistiranje na obrascima kih jednostavno nemo. Sun učitavaš sadržaj, po svon osobnon ključu, ne postoji zakonitost kojon se povijest povodi. Činjenica da je za nixona postojo val slobodarstva, a da danas postoji val socijalizma uopće ti ne doje za pravo da uopćiš ono ča često predbociš marcelusu i nihiliusu, da su popušili merikunsku trulu bajku i ti 30 godin prekasno, jer je kolo povijesti to zauvik pregazilo. 
Upravo radi takovih stvori ti pokušavan pokozati da ti tu diplomatik ne more pomoći; ne postoji takovo kolo za ko bi mi mogli predviditi obrazac i niti jedun ozbiljni čovik to ne će nika pokušati načiniti. Dovoljno si ozbiljan kandidat, nemoj sebi to dopušćati. Doli na denkverbotu kicinjo lipi hansonova predavanja o zapadnoj civilizaciji, pogljedoj ih, ispraviti će ti pogljede. A marcelusu i nihiliusu ćeš uvika imati ča za zamiriti i narugati in se, jer se oni često upušćaju u dnevno političke analize. Tu ti diplomatik, složin se, more biti od koristi.

Ne moraš ti uopćavati, to nije pod moranjem. Svjesno nećeš.

Obrasci postoje, to je činjenica. Nihi i marc ali i ti ste posaugali ideologiju kada je ona već bila u sutonu...

Gene je gore dao ideološke aktualnosti pokušajte uhvatiti duh vremena ako vam nije kasno :p

normalno da ne morun, ali to je praktički jedino ča činin. 

jepeta ti isto. ok, jo sun pokušo.

boriš se protiv uopćavanja...?

Dušica

Pohvalno :)

suprotno, osobna deviza mi je generalizirun, dakle postojin

onda ipak nisi posve zapriječio logiku u svojoj bodulskoj glavurdi...

Vidi lipog dana, ja se vratio s malim iz crkve, i slažem neke cjenike

znači da fureštu pazim na brod (znači obići svaki tjedan na suhi vez)...50 EUR nije pretjerano?

Legendovich wrote:

epikur37 wrote:I usput, samo organizirana država s dobrom policijom i vojskom može stati na kraj trpačini eventualnoj....a nikakav totalni slobodnjak.

Moždak Yoda napokon odlucio odjenuti zajedno sa Longijem juniformu...cudni su puti Gospodnji

epikur37 wrote:

Hektorović wrote:
libertarian assumptions central to free-speech law and free-speech ideology—that government is forbidden to judge the quality and moral worth of public speech, that “one man’s vulgarity is another’s lyric,”  and so on—fall under the ax. Libertarian conceptions of property rights and economic rights will also have to go, insofar as they bar the state from enforcing duties of community and solidarity in the use and distribution of resources.

klatno se vraća, nakon što je dosgnulo svoj liberalni maximum

Ja ovo najavljujem već 10ak godina, 


ideološki maximum je dosegnut još 90-ih i ranih 2000-ih, mi to nismo upratili jer smo bili u svojim lokalnim ratovima i poraćima

obrnuti proces je krenuo pa ima 10-ak godina već

epikur37 wrote:

Ne moraš ti uopćavati, to nije pod moranjem. Svjesno nećeš.

Obrasci postoje, to je činjenica. Nihi i marc ali i ti ste posaugali ideologiju kada je ona već bila u sutonu...

Gene je gore dao ideološke aktualnosti pokušajte uhvatiti duh vremena ako vam nije kasno :p

aben wrote:tipa 50 eurov na dan? je preuzimoš kakovu odgovornost ?

obala razuma wrote:

aben wrote:tipa 50 eurov na dan? je preuzimoš kakovu odgovornost ?

 
ne idise 

laže pašče

aben wrote:

obala razuma wrote:

aben wrote:tipa 50 eurov na dan? je preuzimoš kakovu odgovornost ?

 
ne idise 

laže pašče

pa ča

obala razuma wrote:

aben wrote:

obala razuma wrote:

aben wrote:tipa 50 eurov na dan? je preuzimoš kakovu odgovornost ?

 
ne idise 

laže pašče

pa ča

vidin da te pogodilo , pa si u komu 

samo da provirin jesil priživija

aben wrote:

Hektorović wrote:

aben wrote:

Hektorović wrote:[size=59]
libertarian assumptions central to free-speech law and free-speech ideology—that government is forbidden to judge the quality and moral worth of public speech, that “one man’s vulgarity is another’s lyric,”  and so on—fall under the ax. Libertarian conceptions of property rights and economic rights will also have to go, insofar as they bar the state from enforcing duties of community and solidarity in the use and distribution of resources.
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kako un to misli,  will have to go?

ki to govori,

Eto pojma nemaš naravno.

da imun, unda ne bi pito.

ali, govori ko isus. ili staljin.

prckov wrote:

aben wrote:

Hektorović wrote:

aben wrote:

Hektorović wrote:[size=59]
libertarian assumptions central to free-speech law and free-speech ideology—that government is forbidden to judge the quality and moral worth of public speech, that “one man’s vulgarity is another’s lyric,”  and so on—fall under the ax. Libertarian conceptions of property rights and economic rights will also have to go, insofar as they bar the state from enforcing duties of community and solidarity in the use and distribution of resources.
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kako un to misli,  will have to go?

ki to govori,

Eto pojma nemaš naravno.

da imun, unda ne bi pito.

ali, govori ko isus. ili staljin.

treba covjeka razumit
dojio analize sa NYT-a i jebiga
sprzilo ga skroz

aben wrote:

prckov wrote:

aben wrote:

Hektorović wrote:

aben wrote:

Hektorović wrote:[size=59]
libertarian assumptions central to free-speech law and free-speech ideology—that government is forbidden to judge the quality and moral worth of public speech, that “one man’s vulgarity is another’s lyric,”  and so on—fall under the ax. Libertarian conceptions of property rights and economic rights will also have to go, insofar as they bar the state from enforcing duties of community and solidarity in the use and distribution of resources.
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kako un to misli,  will have to go?

ki to govori,

Eto pojma nemaš naravno.

da imun, unda ne bi pito.

ali, govori ko isus. ili staljin.

treba covjeka razumit
dojio analize sa NYT-a i jebiga
sprzilo ga skroz

pa, ki je to reko?

mislin, govori iz pozicije vlasnika svita, vjerojatno je neko puno važan

prckov wrote:Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

― C.S. Lewis

aben wrote:

prckov wrote:Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

― C.S. Lewis

hear, hear

obala razuma wrote:

aben wrote:

prckov wrote:Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

― C.S. Lewis

hear, hear

ti kao da nisi bio na malom kursu 

ovo je čovik lippo opisa hrvatski socijalistički karcinom razuma