Rusija

Odbijeno. Jesi gledao na vijestima, dnevnik HRT.

Ruski veleposlanik gost u studiju, oštro odbacio tu 

mogućnost i potvrdio da Rusija ima sve snimke i 

podatke, sve info o švercu oružja isis-u i švercu 

nafte u TR. Nepobitno.

Yehudi wrote:Odbijeno. Jesi gledao na vijestima, dnevnik HRT.

Ruski veleposlanik gost u studiju, oštro odbacio tu 

mogućnost i potvrdio da Rusija ima sve snimke i 

podatke, sve info o švercu oružja isis-u i švercu 

nafte u TR. Nepobitno.

Pa normalno da imaju. Nije FSB sjedio skrštenih ruku.

Time to Kick Turkey Out of NATO?


 Ankara Playing Dangerous Games With ISIL

For decades Ankara has used its NATO membership to achieve its own goals, which very often do not coincide with the interests of the Alliance, Czech-based freelance journalist and analyst Martin Berger emphasizes.

Ankara's recent provocative action toward Russia has prompted deep concerns among NATO member states: it is clear that not one of them is interested in escalating tensions with Russia.
"The members of NATO fear that the 'impulsive actions' of Turkey's President will force them into a new major conflict, and NATO is not prepared to fight it yet. These 'impulsive actions' may trigger the response that is required by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty," Czech-based freelance journalist and analyst Martin Berger writes in his article for New Eastern Outlook.

  Kuku lele serdogane

 Sad ga može jebati tko hoće.

Izbace li ih iz -nato-a, nitko ali  NITKO  mu neće pomoći.

marcus-t wrote:

Yehudi wrote:Odbijeno. Jesi gledao na vijestima, dnevnik HRT.

Ruski veleposlanik gost u studiju, oštro odbacio tu 

mogućnost i potvrdio da Rusija ima sve snimke i 

podatke, sve info o švercu oružja isis-u i švercu 

nafte u TR. Nepobitno.

Pa normalno da imaju. Nije FSB sjedio skrštenih ruku.

pa znali su to Rusi i prije , znali su to Ameri i prije, nego su svi šutili.. inače da naglasim Turska i Rusija su do toga nesretnog događaja bili i saveznici, a Putin i Erdogan kao dva oka u zjenici glave.. što odmah Rusi nisu rekli , šta vi Turci švercate sa ISILovcima, nego su šutili.. dok im nije nataklo jadnom pilotu grančicu, pa kao otkrili su toplu vodu..

raspao se Rusko-Turski savez , prdnuo u čabar

Inace Turci pricaju kako je Putin Erdoganu oprostio rusenje aviona..no nekako to usiljenim smijeskom protiskuju kroz zube...Juznjacka utjeha..

Jebes jedan avion,totalno nebitno,tih su 24 i 25 se nastancalo masa,steta je pilota,no medjutim kamel fakera je zagnojilo vjerovatno dosad na hiljade,ali ovaj dogadjaj je bitan jer su Rusi sad pojacali svoje pozicije u Siriji,znaci turski avioni koji se budi i primakli granici sa sirijom ce biti na nisanu a anti teroristicka operacija se intenzivira,Infekcija(isis) mora biti odstranjena

Odličan dokumentarac na 1 HRT

O ratnom zločinu Turaka nad Armencima.

 Više od 1 000 000 Armenaca je masakrirano.

Zašto NATO daje svoja imena ruskom oružju?

Yehudi wrote:Odličan dokumentarac na 1 HRT

O ratnom zločinu Turaka nad Armencima.

 Više od 1 000 000 Armenaca je masakrirano.

Čitao sam odličnu knjigu (Armenia 1915) koja donosi izvještaje Austro-ugarske diplomacije, ukratko Njemci su zapravo sudionici zločina jer nisu ništa poduzeli. Anatolijske visoravni su držali Armenci koji su kontrolirali trgovinu i time su stajali na putu pan-germanskom planu ekspanzije prema istoku. Njemačkoj je odgovaralo slabljenje armenske pozicije unutar Otomanskog carstva.

Genocid nad Armencima je bila osveta nakon što Turci nisu uspjeli ostvariti glavni cilj - okrenuti kavkaske muslimane protiv Rusa.

crvenkasti wrote:Zašto NATO daje svoja imena ruskom oružju?

   To je vojna tajna.

 Recimo Su - 34 - nazivaju -UFO- ...................zašto

Situacija za Armence se pogoršala nakon rata na Krimu sredinom 19. st., po povratku sa bojišta Turci su opustošili Armeniju.

crvenkasti wrote:Genocid nad Armencima je bila osveta nakon što Turci nisu uspjeli ostvariti glavni cilj - okrenuti kavkaske muslimane protiv Rusa.

   Tako jest. Popušili su 70 000 vojske na Kavkazu pa se išli

 osvetiti civilima.  Silovali pa ubijali žene, dicu.

Le Roi Soleil wrote:

Yehudi wrote:Odličan dokumentarac na 1 HRT

O ratnom zločinu Turaka nad Armencima.

 Više od 1 000 000 Armenaca je masakrirano.

Čitao sam odličnu knjigu (Armenia 1915) koja donosi izvještaje Austro-ugarske diplomacije, ukratko Njemci su zapravo sudionici zločina jer nisu ništa poduzeli. Anatolijske visoravni su držali Armenci koji su kontrolirali trgovinu i time su stajali na putu pan-germanskom planu ekspanzije prema istoku. Njemačkoj je odgovaralo slabljenje armenske pozicije unutar Otomanskog carstva.

 Krimen je Turski.

Yehudi wrote:
Krimen je Turski.

Svakako, samo kažem kako osim diplomatskih inicijativa i "hitnih depeša", nije ništa poduzeto da se pomogne kršćanima.

Le Roi Soleil wrote:

Yehudi wrote:
Krimen je Turski.

Svakako, samo kažem kako osim diplomatskih inicijativa i "hitnih depeša", nije ništa poduzeto da se pomogne kršćanima.

  Kao ni sada u Siriji. Uzaludu su slali apele za spas i pomoć, masakrirani su od 

 strane isis-a u Maouli ( di se Armenski govori, di su prvi Kršćani ) i u drugim

 enklavama. Slabo se o tome i nikako pisalu u novinstvu i na TV.

[size=34]US urges Turkey to close off its Syrian border to ISIS - media[/size]
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Washington is urging Ankara to seal off a 100-kilometer stretch of borderline with Syria currently used by Islamic State for transportation of fighters and supplies into the Syrian war zone. The Turkish Army would need an estimated 30,000 personnel to do this.
The Obama administration is urging Turkey to ensure Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in Syria receives no supplies through the Turkish border, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing sources in Washington. The request involves sealing off part of the frontier between the western Turkish town of Kilis and Jarabulus in eastern Syrian.
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“The game has changed. Enough is enough! The border needs to be sealed,” the WSJ cited a senior Obama administration official as saying in a message from the US government to Turkey. “This is an international threat, and it’s all coming out of Syria and it’s coming through Turkish territory.”
The US has called particular attention to a small part of the border between Jarabulus and Cobanbey, which is being used extensively by IS to transfer munitions and other supplies from Turkey to Syria, and foreign fighters in both directions.
A Pentagon official told the WSJ that cordoning off a section of the border would require the deployment of approximately 10,000 additional troops, while a “broader humanitarian mission” would demand a 30,000-strong task force.
“There’s no local, capable, motivated force that is prepared to clear this area at this time,” the WSJ cited a senior US defense official as saying. “There are two sides to every border. If Turkey is motivated to seal their border, there is nothing that’s stopping them from using their conventional forces to do so,” the official said.
Turkish officials say some steps in this direction are already being taken, although they believe the number of troops necessary for the task is exaggerated, according to the WSJ.
Turkey has a 640,000-strong military, estimated to be the eighth largest in the world, and Ankara is said to want to control things on their own terms.
“Turkey is determined to clean Daesh (Arabic acronym for Islamic State) from the 98 kilometers of border between Kilis and Jarabulus,” a senior Turkish government official said as cited by the WSJ. “There is no need to receive any kind of warning or advice from anyone, including our US partners.”
“Just closing down the border would not be enough to solve our problems and would not address Turkey’s demands,” a Turkish official said.
In July, President Barack Obama and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan agreed in principle about a ground operation in Syria. It was understood that the forces on the ground would be Turkish-backed rebel groups consisting of Syrian Arabs and Turkmens, while the US would provide air support to the operation. Ankara also expected the US Air Force to maintain a no-fly zone over northern Syria, to protect rebels from the Syrian Air Force.
However, once Russia moved in and began a counter-terrorist operation of its own in Syria in late September, the US-Turkey plan to conduct a ground operation with rebel forces was scrapped.
After the attack of a Turkish F-16 fighter jet on a Russian Su-24 bomber on Tuesday, the Russian task force in Syria was enhanced with S-400 Triumph long-distance air defense complexes that cover most of Syria’s territory.
Both the American and Turkish air forces halted their strikes on Syrian territory around the time Russia deployed S-400 systems to the Khmeimin airbase, from where it stages its own incursions against Islamic State.[/size]

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