Srbi opet svojataju Teslu ...:)

tre wrote:  
jamjevci du ssčuvali svoje Dubrovačko porijeklo i od tud im izvor za ono što tvrde 

ljubo1212 wrote:o ovome je već bilo jednom, ali vidim da jastreb gusla opet
dakle, smiljan nisu osnovali turci ili vlasi, nego je osnovan i u početku naseljen katolicima, koji su pred turskom najezdom izbjegli u vinodol, odakle su se vratili nakon izbjeglištva, a evo kako stoji u njegovim dnevnicima, i teslini su došli s njima, naravno da nisu s turcima i vlasima

Brat Brale wrote:

ljubo1212 wrote:o ovome je već bilo jednom, ali vidim da jastreb gusla opet
dakle, smiljan nisu osnovali turci ili vlasi, nego je osnovan i u početku naseljen katolicima, koji su pred turskom najezdom izbjegli u vinodol, odakle su se vratili nakon izbjeglištva, a evo kako stoji u njegovim dnevnicima, i teslini su došli s njima, naravno da nisu s turcima i vlasima

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Nikola Tesla

Tribute to King Alexander

TRIBUTE TO KING ALEXANDER *

To The Editor of The New York Times:
Much has been said about Yugoslavia and its people, but many Americans may be under a wrong impression for political enemies and agitators have spread the idea that its inhabitants belong to different nations animated by mutual hate and held together against their will, by a tyrannical power. The fact is that all Yugoslavs-Serbians, Slavonians, Bosnians, Herzegovinians, Dalmations, Montenagrins, Croatians and Slovenes - are of the same race, speak the same language and have common national ideals and traditions.
At the termination of the World War, Alexander brought about a political union creating a powerful and resourceful State. This was hailed with joy by all the Slavs of the Balkans, but it took time before the people found themselves in the new conditions.
Serbs Did the Fighting.
I was born in Croatia. The Croatians and Slovenes were never in a position to fight for their independence. It was the Serbians who fought the battles for freedom and the price of liberty was paid in Serbian blood. All true Croatians and Slovenes remember that gratefully. They also know that the Serbians have an unequaled aptitude and experience in warfare and are best qualified to direct the forces of the country in a crisis.
Ever since united Yugoslavia came into being through Alexander's efforts, political enemies have done all they could to disrupt it by sowing seeds of discord and disseminating malicious reports. An instance of the kind is a book by Louis Adamic, "The Native's Return," which he is supposed to have written under the provisions of the Guggenheim award for literature and in which he indulges in political defamation, denunciation of the ruler of the country and promulgation of ideas as unwelcome here as in Yugoslavia.
His denunciations of the King and reflections on his character can be contemptuously passed, but one thing cannot be ignored. The book contains statements representing the great and fearless man, who has led his people in sanguinary battles, as a weakling in mortal fear of assassination, so much so that he retired every night to a different room and did not show himself until hundreds of his aides had 'I cleared the place and made safe his appearance. This has cut deep into the heart of every loyal Yugoslav.
Dissensions Denied.
Mr. Adamic is very loud in telling of the hatred and dissensions between Croatians and Slovenes and the Serbians, but recent events have disproved his statements, The countries, which according to his accounts ,. should be in open revolt, have shown themselves as devoted to the King of Serbia. This has been reflected in several reports of The New York Times, among which is the extraordinarily vivid and dramatic description of the obsequies.
The death of the King has shaken the country to its very foundations, but the enemies who say that it means the disruption of Yugoslavia will hope in vain, for the noble blood of the great man has only served to cement its parts more firmly and strengthen the national structure. Alexander will live long in the memory of his people, a heroic figure of imposing stature, both the Washington and Lincoln of the Yugoslavs; like Washington an able and intrepid general who freed his country from oppression; like Lincoln a wise and patriotic leader who suffered martyrdom.
Nikola Tesla, New York, Oct. 19, 1934

Hektorović wrote:Politički, Tesla je bio Jugoslaven... Promonarhistički...

Nikola Tesla

Tribute to King Alexander

TRIBUTE TO KING ALEXANDER *

To The Editor of The New York Times:
Much has been said about Yugoslavia and its people, but many Americans may be under a wrong impression for political enemies and agitators have spread the idea that its inhabitants belong to different nations animated by mutual hate and held together against their will, by a tyrannical power. The fact is that all Yugoslavs-Serbians, Slavonians, Bosnians, Herzegovinians, Dalmations, Montenagrins, Croatians and Slovenes - are of the same race, speak the same language and have common national ideals and traditions.
At the termination of the World War, Alexander brought about a political union creating a powerful and resourceful State. This was hailed with joy by all the Slavs of the Balkans, but it took time before the people found themselves in the new conditions.
Serbs Did the Fighting.
I was born in Croatia. The Croatians and Slovenes were never in a position to fight for their independence. It was the Serbians who fought the battles for freedom and the price of liberty was paid in Serbian blood. All true Croatians and Slovenes remember that gratefully. They also know that the Serbians have an unequaled aptitude and experience in warfare and are best qualified to direct the forces of the country in a crisis.
Ever since united Yugoslavia came into being through Alexander's efforts, political enemies have done all they could to disrupt it by sowing seeds of discord and disseminating malicious reports. An instance of the kind is a book by Louis Adamic, "The Native's Return," which he is supposed to have written under the provisions of the Guggenheim award for literature and in which he indulges in political defamation, denunciation of the ruler of the country and promulgation of ideas as unwelcome here as in Yugoslavia.
His denunciations of the King and reflections on his character can be contemptuously passed, but one thing cannot be ignored. The book contains statements representing the great and fearless man, who has led his people in sanguinary battles, as a weakling in mortal fear of assassination, so much so that he retired every night to a different room and did not show himself until hundreds of his aides had 'I cleared the place and made safe his appearance. This has cut deep into the heart of every loyal Yugoslav.
Dissensions Denied.
Mr. Adamic is very loud in telling of the hatred and dissensions between Croatians and Slovenes and the Serbians, but recent events have disproved his statements, The countries, which according to his accounts ,. should be in open revolt, have shown themselves as devoted to the King of Serbia. This has been reflected in several reports of The New York Times, among which is the extraordinarily vivid and dramatic description of the obsequies.
The death of the King has shaken the country to its very foundations, but the enemies who say that it means the disruption of Yugoslavia will hope in vain, for the noble blood of the great man has only served to cement its parts more firmly and strengthen the national structure. Alexander will live long in the memory of his people, a heroic figure of imposing stature, both the Washington and Lincoln of the Yugoslavs; like Washington an able and intrepid general who freed his country from oppression; like Lincoln a wise and patriotic leader who suffered martyrdom.
Nikola Tesla, New York, Oct. 19, 1934

Hektorović wrote:

Hektorović wrote:Politički, Tesla je bio Jugoslaven... Promonarhistički... 

jastreb wrote:

Brat Brale wrote:

ljubo1212 wrote:o ovome je već bilo jednom, ali vidim da jastreb gusla opet
dakle, smiljan nisu osnovali turci ili vlasi, nego je osnovan i u početku naseljen katolicima, koji su pred turskom najezdom izbjegli u vinodol, odakle su se vratili nakon izbjeglištva, a evo kako stoji u njegovim dnevnicima, i teslini su došli s njima, naravno da nisu s turcima i vlasima

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Ana Tomljanovic u knjizi Smiljan i okolica lijepo pise da su u Smiljan Vlahe doselili Turci,a da su Bunjevce ondje nakon odlaska Turaka doveli Austrijanci. A. Tomljenovic je hrvatska povjesnicarka iz Smiljana i ne vidim zasto bi ista lagala.

epikur37 wrote:Tesla nije ni mogao biti do jugoslaven.  

ljubo1212 wrote: 
ona nije povjesničarka, odnosno je kao i goldstein stariji,  

jastreb wrote:

Hektorović wrote:

Hektorović wrote:Politički, Tesla je bio Jugoslaven... Promonarhistički... 

Eh,sad bih ja mogao reći kako se kasnije priklonio Titu.  Što i je istina. Javno je podržao Tita i NOP.

6.lička div.nazvana je njegovim imenom. Tada su NOP podržali vodeći američki intelektualci jugosl.porijekla,npr. Luj Adamič.

jastreb wrote:

Hektorović wrote:

Hektorović wrote:Politički, Tesla je bio Jugoslaven... Promonarhistički... 

Eh,sad bih ja mogao reći kako se kasnije priklonio Titu.  Što i je istina. Javno je podržao Tita i NOP.

6.lička div.nazvana je njegovim imenom. Tada su NOP podržali vodeći američki intelektualci jugosl.porijekla,npr. Luj Adamič.

"A King's Heritage," the young Peter II writes: "I visited Dr. Nikola Tesla, in his apartment in the Hotel New Yorker. After I had greeted him, the aged scientist said, 'It is my greatest honor. I am glad you are in your youth, and I am content that you will be a great ruler. I believe I will live until you come back to a free Yugoslavia. From your father you have received his last words: "Guard Yugoslavia." I am proud to be a Serbian and a Yugoslav. Our people cannot perish. Preserve the unity of all Yugoslavs - the Serbs, the Croats, and Slovenes.'"

Hektorović wrote:Adamič je naravno ispravno procjenio kako se ta dva naroda "ne mogu".

Dok je Tesla bio idealist.

jastreb wrote:

epikur37 wrote:Tesla nije ni mogao biti do jugoslaven.  

Mogao je biti jugoslavenski orijentiran.

A jugoslavenski orijentiranih ljudi bilo je još prije stvaranja Kraljevine.

Recimo jugosl.orijentirani bili su i Ilirci. I Njegoš. I Andrić i Krleža.I Gavrilo Princip,a u nekim segmentima i sam Radić.

jastreb wrote:

ljubo1212 wrote: 
ona nije povjesničarka, odnosno je kao i goldstein stariji,  

Ne. Nije. Ona je čak malo priklonjena NDH. Pa se tako pravi blesava po pitanju likvidacije 500 smiljanskih Srba,odnosno prešućuje tko ih je ubio. (smiljanski ustaše) Ona ih ne spominje.

Inače u Smiljanu je kod Hrvata bio dosta jak komunist.pokret. Jakov Blažević je iz Bužima.

jastreb wrote:

Hektorović wrote:Adamič je naravno ispravno procjenio kako se ta dva naroda "ne mogu".

Dok je Tesla bio idealist.

Bio je realist. Kao Srbin iz Like koja je nacionalno izmješana do kraja.

Adamič kao Slovenac nije to potpuno shvaćao. Srbi i Hrvati,za razliku od Slovenaca koji žive na kompaktnom teritoriju,žive ispremiješani na prostorima od G.kotara do Vojvodine i ist.Bosne i nemoguće ih je razdvojiti običnom crtom.

ljubo1212 wrote:  
inače, bunjevce nisu u smiljan doveli habzburzi nego su krajem XVII st došli bunjevački ustanici preko velebita i potjerali vlahe u bosnu,
u smiljanu su ostali gore spominjani katolici i preci nikole tesle