Srušio se ruski bombarder Tu-22M

pismejker wrote:u biti greska pilota

nije greska pilota nego mecava

Leviathan2 wrote:

pismejker wrote:u biti greska pilota

nije greska pilota nego mecava

Da , pri slijetanju u uvjetima mećave

http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/srusio-se-ruski-bombarder-tu-23m3-dvoje-poginulih

RayMabus wrote:

Leviathan2 wrote:

pismejker wrote:u biti greska pilota

nije greska pilota nego mecava

Da , pri slijetanju u uvjetima mećave

http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/srusio-se-ruski-bombarder-tu-23m3-dvoje-poginulih

ne kuzim koji kurac nije otisao na neki drugi aerodrom

Ne znam , mogu samo reč da sam prije dva dana odkako su se u zraku sudarila ona dva Su -34 počeo proučavati to pošto je Su-34 tek prije par godina uveden u operativnu uporabu i naštancali su ih do sada priko 120 komada ili tako neku brojku tj masovno ih štancaju

Naime ja znam da je Tu-22M preglomazan za Balkan kao bombarder na Balkanu no Su-34 nije

Potencijalna opasnost u zraku , antene su mi podignute

Leviathan2 wrote:

RayMabus wrote:

Leviathan2 wrote:

pismejker wrote:u biti greska pilota

nije greska pilota nego mecava

Da , pri slijetanju u uvjetima mećave

http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/srusio-se-ruski-bombarder-tu-23m3-dvoje-poginulih

ne kuzim koji kurac nije otisao na neki drugi aerodrom

Nije ga bilo u blizini u krugu 3 000km...  ...

vuksadinare wrote:

Leviathan2 wrote:

RayMabus wrote:

Leviathan2 wrote:

pismejker wrote:u biti greska pilota

nije greska pilota nego mecava

Da , pri slijetanju u uvjetima mećave

http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/srusio-se-ruski-bombarder-tu-23m3-dvoje-poginulih

ne kuzim koji kurac nije otisao na neki drugi aerodrom

Nije ga bilo u blizini u krugu 3 000km...  ...

ma nije kurac, do moskve nema toliko, a ima vise aerodroma gore iznad moskve
isto kao sudar ona dva suhoja nad japanskim morem, mislim halo, koji kurac su radili
ajd razumljivo da avion padne radi kvara al zbog neodgovornosti, stvarno im fali staljin

Ruse se i americki ali onda se ova ekipa pusaca UKUSA kuraca ne javlja.

Ringo10 wrote:Ruse se i americki ali onda se ova ekipa pusaca UKUSA kuraca ne javlja.

Imas kakav primjer ili mislis

vuksadinare wrote:ovima bu se citava avijacija srusila prije nego sto uopce nato intervenira

I ameri imaju takve periode... sjeverna zima je gadna za letove...

ovo su podatci za amere dakle

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vuksadinare wrote:

Ringo10 wrote:Ruse se i americki ali onda se ova ekipa pusaca UKUSA kuraca ne javlja.

Imas kakav primjer ili mislis

Godina 2018 padovi i nesrece vojnih aviona u svijetu

January 20A US Army Boeing AH-64E Apache crashes during training at the base in the Mojave Desert, California, killing both pilots.^[297]
January 27A Royal Australian Air Force Boeing EA-18G Growler catches fire on takeoff. The aircraft skids off the runway and sustains damage.^[298]
January 29People's Liberation Army Air Force Shaanxi Y-8GX-3 30513 crashes at Zhengchang. All twelve people on board are killed.^[299]
February 2Two Gazelle military helicopters belonging to military flying school: Ealat collide at Carcès lake, north of St Tropez, France. The collision kills at least 5 people according to local officials.^[300]
February 3Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-25SM RF-94586/06, c/n 10393, is shot down over Idlib province while providing air support to Syrian government forces attacking the city of Saraqib. Pilot Major Roman Filipov manages to eject but is wounded while fighting militants after landing in a rebel controlled territory; he blows himself up to avoid capture. The Russian Ministry of Defence revealed that the aircraft was targeted by a MANPADS system.^{[301][302][303]}
February 5JGSDF Boeing AH-64D Apache Longbow 74502, c/n JP002, crashes at Chiyoda, Saga Prefecture after the main rotor breaks apart in flight, killing both of its crew and injuring a local resident on the ground.^[304] The main rotor head was a rebuilt unit from another AH-64D.
February 10
Main article: February 2018 Israel–Syria incident
An Israeli F-16I is shot down by Syrian anti-aircraft fire and crashes in northern Israel with both crew surviving. According to the Israeli military the plane was carrying out a strike against an Iranian control system after an Iranian drone violated Israeli airspace.^[305] Syria denies the drone entered Israeli airspace. In retaliation for the shoot-down the Israeli military said it carried out a "large scale attack" on Iranian targets in Syria.^[306]
10 FebruaryA Turkish TAI/AgustaWestland T129 ATAK attack helicopter is shot down by YPG fighters near Afrin, Syria. The two soldiers on board are killed. It is the first aircraft loss of Turkey since its involvement in the Syrian Civil War.^[307]
March 6
Main article: 2018 Russian Air Force Antonov An-26 crash
Russian Air Force Antonov An-26 RF-92955/52, c/n 10107, crashes on approach to Khmeimim air base in Syria, killing all 39 people on board. A technical fault is suspected.^[308]
March 14US Navy F/A-18F Super Hornet BuNo 166683, of VFA-213, crashes roughly a mile off the end of the runway at Naval Air Station Key West in Florida following an in-flight fire. Both pilots are able to eject, but die shortly after recovery.^[309] A preliminary investigation revealed that the aircraft was attempting to land with one engine out.
March 15A military helicopter crashed in southwest Senegal, killing eight people and injuring 13 others.^[310]
15 MarchA US military Sikorsky HH-60G Pave Hawk helicopter, of the 176th Wing of the Alaska Air National Guard, crashes in Western Iraq after striking a power pole, killing all seven aboard.^[311]
March 18A Syrian Arab Air Force Su-24 is shot down by rebels in East Qalamoun, East of Damascus province, crashing in friendly territory. The fate of the crew is unknown. A video emerged showing at least one of the pilots ejecting successfully.^[312][313]
March 20Royal Air Force BAE Systems Hawk T1 XX204, c/n 312051/051 of the Red Arrows display team, crashed at RAF Valley, Anglesey. The pilot was able to eject, but an engineer died in the crash.^[314] RAF grounds all Hawk T1s three days later.
3 AprilA U.S. Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier crashes in Djibouti shortly after take-off.^[315]
3 AprilMyanmar Air Force Chengdu F-7M 1648 crashes in a rice paddy near Kone Kyun village, Bago region; pilot Major Arkar Win is able to eject, but dies later of his injuries in hospital.^[316] A witness reported a loud explosion before the crash.
3 AprilAn Indian Air Force Mil Mi-17-V5 crashes after striking an iron girder while landing, killing one and injuring three.^[317]
4 AprilA USMC CH-53E Super Stallion, of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, crashes near Naval Air Field El Centro for reasons unknown, killing all 4 crewmen.^[318]
5 AprilA US Air Force Flight Demonstration Team F-16 crashes in Nevada, killing the pilot.^[319]
5 AprilA Republic of Korea Air Force McDonnell Douglas F-15K Slam Eagle crashes into a mountain near Chilgok for reasons unknown while en route to an air base, killing the pilot; the copilot remains missing.^[320] The ROKAF grounds all F-15Ks (except those needed for national defense) as a result of the crash.
6 AprilA US Army Boeing AH-64E Apache helicopter, of the 101st Combat Aviation Brigade, crashes at Fort Campbell in Kentucky, killing both pilots.^[321
]April 11
Main article: 2018 Algerian Air Force Il-76 crash
Algerian Air Force Ilyushin Il-76TD, 7T-WIV, c/n 1043419649, crashes shortly after takeoff from Boufarik Airport near the capital of Algeria, killing all 257 people on board.^[322]
April 13A United States Air Force F-22 Raptor fighter jet was damaged when it experienced an engine malfunction during takeoff. Apparently the left engine basically stopped working on takeoff, suddenly depriving the pilot of enough thrust to continue ascent after he had already raised the landing gear, forcing for a hard, belly landing that lasted for more than a mile.^[323]
April 24United States Air Force Lockheed Martin F-16C Block 42, 90-0760, c/n 1C-368, of the 56th Fighter Wing, overruns the runway while attempting to land at Lake Havasu City Airport. The pilot is able to eject safely.^[324]
April 29A Libyan Air Force Lockheed C-130H-30 Hercules crashes shortly after takeoff.^[325] Out of the four total crew members and passengers aboard, three are killed on impact. The crash happened near the El Sharara oil field in Libya.
May 2
Main article: 2018 U.S. Air National Guard C-130 crash
United States Air Force Lockheed WC-130H Hercules 65-0968, c/n 4110, of the 156th Airlift Wing of the Puerto Rico Air National Guard, crashes on Georgia State Route 21 in Port Wentworth, Georgia while on climbout from Savannah/Hilton Head International Airport and catches fire, killing all nine on board. This was to be the aircraft's last flight before retirement at the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AMARG) base in Arizona.^[326]
May 3A Russian Air Force Sukhoi Su-30SM crashes in the sea off Jiblah, Latakia, Syria shortly after takeoff, killing both pilots.^[327] The aircraft probably suffered a bird strike.
May 7A Russian Air Force Kamov Ka-52 helicopter crashes during a routine flight over eastern Syria due to technical failure, killing both pilots.^[328]
May 23A United States Air Force Northrop T-38 Talon crashes in Mississippi during a training mission, both pilots eject safely.^[329]
June 4A Republic of China Air Force General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon piloted by Major Wu Yen-ting (吳彥霆) crashed on Wufenshan, Ruifang District, New Taipei City.^[330]
June 11A U.S. military McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle fighter jet crashed in waters off Japan's southern island of Okinawa, where the bulk of U.S. forces in Japan are based, during a routine training mission.^[331]
June 25A United States Air Force A-29 Super Tucano crashed during the Light Attack Experiment evaluation program, at the Red Rio Bombing Range inside the White Sands Missile Range. Both pilots died.^[332]
July 6A Polish Air Force Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 crashed during a night flight in a field in the village of Sakówko, just about 500 meters from the residential buildings. The pilot managed to eject, but did not survive.^[333][334]
July 7A Romanian Air Force Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 crashed during the Borcea Open Day air show. The pilot managed to eject, but did not survive.^[335]
July 27A window fell off a U.S. military helicopter at the U.S. Atsugi base in Kanagawa Prefecture southwest of Tokyo, no one was injured.^[336]
August 10
Main article: 2018 Horizon Air Q400 incident
A Horizon Air Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 is stolen from Seattle–Tacoma International Airport with no passengers on board, prompting F15 fighter jets to scramble and intercept. After being contacted by Seattle/Tacoma air traffic control, the plane crashes near Ketron Island in Pierce County, Washington, killing the 29-year-old male pilot ^[337]
August 17A United States Air Force Northrop T-38 Talon crashed near the Oklahoma City, near the Vance Air Force Base. Pilot safely ejected.^[338]
September 17
Main article: Syria missile strikes (September 2018)
A Russian Air Force Ilyushin Il-20M ELINT aircraft was shot down by a Syrian S-200 missile when returning to the Khmeimim Air Baseafter a reconnaissance flight, killing all 15 Russian servicemen on board. The aircraft was shot down due to the friendly fire when the SyADF mistook the plane with one of the four Israeli Air Force F-16s attacking the Syrian targets in the Latakia province at the very same time. Following the shootdown, Russia blamed the Israel as a responsible for this tragic accident.^[339]
September 19A United States Air Force Beechcraft T-6 Texan II crashed in a field near the town of San Antonio, Texas. The crew safely ejected.^[340]
September 28A United States Marine Corps F-35B belonging to the Fighter Attack Training Squadron VMFAT-501, crashed near the city of Beaufort. The pilot managed to successfully eject.^[341]
10 October 2018A Slovak Air Force Aero L-39 Albatros crashed near the Sliač Air Base into an empty area, due to the engine failure. Both pilots managed to successfully eject.^[342]
11 October 2018A Belgian Air Force F-16AM caught fire at the Florennes Air Base during a routine ground maintenance, injuring one technician and damaging another two aircraft on the ground. The aircraft was reportedly hit by the 20 mm M61 Vulcan cannon, accidentally activated on another F-16. The damage on the aircraft is beyond repair.^[343]
16 October 2018A Ukrainian Air Force Su-27UB crashed during the "Clear Sky 2018" military exercise held at the Starokostiantyniv Air Base, Khmelnytskyi Oblast. The aircraft was flown by a Ukrainian pilot Colonel Ivan Petrenko while the second seat was occupied by a 144th Fighter Wing member of the California Air National Guard. Both pilots died.^[344]
18 October 2018A French NHIndustries NH90 crashed while taking off from the Dixmude (L9015) helicopter carrier, injuring four sailors on the flight deck. The incident took place as the vessel was en route to take part in NATO exercise "Trident Juncture 18".^[345]
18 October 2018A Russian Air Force Aero L-39 Albatros crashed into the water near the village of Dolzhanskaya, Krasnodar Krai while performing a scheduled training flight. The fate of the pilots remains unknown.^[346]
19 October 2018A USN Sikorsky SH-60 Seahawk crashed shortly after takeoff aboard the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier during routine operations in the Philippine Sea, injuring 12 sailors.^[347][348]
20 OctoberA Columbian Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk crashed in the southwestern Cauca Department when on an anti-drug mission, killing all four crew members.^[349]
12 NovemberA USN F/A-18F Super Hornet belonging to the Carrier Air Wing Five of the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, crashed due to a mechanical failure while performing routine operations in the Philippine Sea. Both pilots managed to eject and were rescued back to the ship.^[350]
13 NovemberA USAF Northrop T-38 Talon of the 87th Flying Training Squadron crashed due to unspecified reasons at the Laughlin Air Force Base, Texas. The pilot, Capt. John Graziano, was killed, while the second pilot, Capt. Mark Palyok, survived with injuries.^[351][352]
6 DecemberA KC-130 and an F/A-18, both of from Marine Corps Air Station Iwakuni, collided in mid-air off the coast of Japan during regularly scheduled training.^[353] Two Marines were rescued after the crash, with one dying. Five Marines were not found after a search and rescue operation, bringing up the death count to six Marines.^[354]
15 DecemberA Ukrainian Air Force Su-27 crashed on landing, when returning from a routine training mission in the Zhytomyr Oblast. Killing the pilot

Ringo10 wrote:Ruse se i americki ali onda se ova ekipa pusaca UKUSA kuraca ne javlja.

Pogledaj podatke, po 80 teških nesreća sa gubitkom aviona, pilota ili otpisom aviona godišnje ...

[size=42]What's Behind the Stark Rise in U.S. Military Accidents?

Collisions at sea and aviation accidents point to an overtaxed force.

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https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a19735282/us-military-accidents-plane-helicopter-crash-navy-army/

Avioni su osjetljive stvarcice, lako se kvare i na njih utjece milijun stvari, od tehnickih pa do vremenskih uvjeta

Gledam ovu nadzvućnu bombarder eskadrilu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_military_aircraft

60-ak Tu-22M , ono prosjek 25 do 30 godina stari 

Da to u biti zbog dometa moraju usmjeravat na Artik , Tihi i Atlanski ocean a onda radit baze oko Rusije i po svijetu za ovaj Su-34 koji ima duplo manji domet

Rusi razvijaju Suhoj 160 koji je nadzvućni bombarder za nuklearni napad a ovaj model Tu-22 M je višak tj srednja kategorija

Su 34 je duplo manji pa je i manje vidljiv na radaru tako da je čak i bolji za vojne operacije

Ringo10 wrote:Avioni su osjetljive stvarcice, lako se kvare i na njih utjece milijun stvari, od tehnickih pa do vremenskih uvjeta

Pilotske greške po jakom vjetru i mečavi i u ovom slučaju i u slučaju Su-34...

RayMabus wrote:Gledam ovu nadzvućnu bombarder eskadrilu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_military_aircraft

60-ak Tu-22M , ono prosjek 25 do 30 godina stari 

B-52 je 60 godina star

A od Tu-22M3 nisu niti mlađi niti američki B-1...


Amerika još ima 20 B-2, a Rusija 17 Tu-160...

Hektorović wrote:

RayMabus wrote:Gledam ovu nadzvućnu bombarder eskadrilu

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_Russian_military_aircraft

60-ak Tu-22M , ono prosjek 25 do 30 godina stari 

B-52 je 60 godina star

A od Tu-22M3 nisu niti mlađi niti američki B-1...


Amerika još ima 20 B-2, a Rusija 17 Tu-160...

B-52 nije nadzvučni bombarder


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress

To ti je u rangu ovoga :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95

Uzmeš bilo koji putnički avion i uz malo prerade napravit ću od njega takvi bombarder

Nadzvućni bombarder znači da probija zvučni zid i leti brzinom većom od brzine zvuka

B -2 nije nadzvućni bombarder

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit

Samo ima smanjenu radarsku nevidljivost

B-1 Lancer jest nadzvučni strateški teški bombarder

I samo to i ništa više

Napad na ISIL u Siriji 2015

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.index.hr/article/857696/rusi-ne-prestaju-bombardirati-isis-u-dva-dana-unistili-472-teroristicke-mete

Korišteni Tu-22M

Poanta je da je Rusija ogromna a ovaj avion je nezamjenjiv za obranu artičkog kruga a to je cijeli luk od Sant Petesburga do Vladivostoka

Svaki gubitak ovog tipa zrakoplova znači da su ruske zračne snage sve ograničenije u izvođenju ovakvih napada dole direktno iz smjera Rusije

To znači da će morat jačat jačat uporišta poput Sirije , Armenije , Tađistana i tamo držat flotu Suhoja 34 koji imaju duplo manji domet od Tu-22M