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Ajde neka ti bude...RayMabus wrote:Da.red wolf wrote:Ma stvarno...RayMabus wrote:Neurušawa se čowječanstwo nego zapadna pretežno anglosaska ćiwilizaćija i ono šta sa njom ima weze.
Rekla bi ti Fani Čapalija : It is OK.
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Nema to weze s menom ....to je tako ...weč wiđeno miljarde puta.red wolf wrote:Ajde neka ti bude...RayMabus wrote:Da.red wolf wrote:Ma stvarno...RayMabus wrote:Neurušawa se čowječanstwo nego zapadna pretežno anglosaska ćiwilizaćija i ono šta sa njom ima weze.
Rekla bi ti Fani Čapalija : It is OK.
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U ovom razmjeru nije viđeno...RayMabus wrote:Nema to weze s menom ....to je tako ...weč wiđeno miljarde puta.red wolf wrote:Ajde neka ti bude...RayMabus wrote:Da.red wolf wrote:Ma stvarno...RayMabus wrote:Neurušawa se čowječanstwo nego zapadna pretežno anglosaska ćiwilizaćija i ono šta sa njom ima weze.
Rekla bi ti Fani Čapalija : It is OK.
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A wiđeno je to i te kako ......nije owo jedina planeta i ćiwilizaćija ....swe je to dawno wiđeno ....to šta wi o tome nemate pojma to je druga stwar.
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A čujte i kod heterosekualaca u mnogim vremenima i kulturama postojala je poligamija.
Čak su i neki najuzorniji biblijski likovi (David,Salamon,Jakov,Abraham, Gideon...) imali više žena.
E,sada kada je gay pokret izašao iz ilegale,takvi ,da se poslužim riječju iz samog teksta, "poliamorni" sustavi sve će više izlaziti na vidjelo.
Lani sam na NG gledao emisiju o zajednici dva muškarca i jedne žene. Ondje muškarci praše tu ženu,ali i jedan drugoga,a imaju i više djece.
Ništa nas ne smije iznenaditi,govorili su jugoslavenski čuvari tekovina revolucije u 70-tim godinama prošloga vijeka.
Čak su i neki najuzorniji biblijski likovi (David,Salamon,Jakov,Abraham, Gideon...) imali više žena.
E,sada kada je gay pokret izašao iz ilegale,takvi ,da se poslužim riječju iz samog teksta, "poliamorni" sustavi sve će više izlaziti na vidjelo.
Lani sam na NG gledao emisiju o zajednici dva muškarca i jedne žene. Ondje muškarci praše tu ženu,ali i jedan drugoga,a imaju i više djece.
Ništa nas ne smije iznenaditi,govorili su jugoslavenski čuvari tekovina revolucije u 70-tim godinama prošloga vijeka.
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Ajde spavati...RayMabus wrote:A wiđeno je to i te kako ......nije owo jedina planeta i ćiwilizaćija ....swe je to dawno wiđeno ....to šta wi o tome nemate pojma to je druga stwar.
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jastreb wrote:
Ništa nas ne smije iznenaditi,govorili su jugoslavenski čuvari tekovina revolucije u 70-tim godinama prošloga vijeka.
Slažem se, ta maksima ima svoj smisao danas pogotovo.
Nego, kad si već tu, što misliš o ideji katoličkog Monarha? On bi trebao predhoditi dolasku stričeka Antikrista.
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To bi bilo moguće samo da stričeki Martin,Kalvin,Hus i Cvingli nisu veliki dio katoličke raje preveli na drugi put.Le Roi Soleil wrote:jastreb wrote:
Ništa nas ne smije iznenaditi,govorili su jugoslavenski čuvari tekovina revolucije u 70-tim godinama prošloga vijeka.
Slažem se, ta maksima ima svoj smisao danas pogotovo.
Nego, kad si već tu, što misliš o ideji katoličkog Monarha? On bi trebao predhoditi dolasku stričeka Antikrista.
Tako da bi današnji katolički monarh vladao uglavnom poprilično siromašnim dijelovima svijeta.
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jastreb wrote:
To bi bilo moguće samo da stričeki Martin,Kalvin,Hus i Cvingli nisu veliki dio katoličke raje preveli na drugi put.
Tako da bi današnji katolički monarh vladao uglavnom poprilično siromašnim dijelovima svijeta.
ma nisam se možda jasno izrazio - govorim o proroštvu o vojnom lideru koji će ponovno rekuperat smrvljenu KC. Inače se ovo proroštvo poklapa sa onim Nostradamusovim o WW3, pače i sa porukama Gospe Fatimske.
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Pa sad, 50% ili svako drugi vara partnera ili partnericu, ponekad i jedno i drugo varaju a ovi žele samo takvu zajednicu ili trojac bez kormilara okruniti brakom
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Ovo je uništenje ljudskog društva...Ovo je kao i u vremenu Sodome i Gomore...Vjerojatno već kamenčić stiže prema Zemlji...Bit će veselo.kaja_333 wrote:Pa sad, 50% ili svako drugi vara partnera ili partnericu, ponekad i jedno i drugo varaju a ovi žele samo takvu zajednicu ili trojac bez kormilara okruniti brakom
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Kanada je nebitna zemlja.Jedino šta je tu bitno je da imaju užasno loš natalitet. SAD su ključne. Wiše latinosa manji utjećaj Britanije. Raspad anglosaskog imperija.
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Raspad anglosaskog imperija = raspad američke imperijalne politike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
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A kad se gowno raspadne onda čemo opet bombardirat London ....šalim se Londonistan će se sam urušit ......ha ha ha ha
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
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Ma ja uopće ne znam čemu se vi čudite u ovome slučaju???
Pa opće je poznat enormni promiskuitet kod gay populacije,kudikamo veći nego kod hetero,te je shodno tome i očekivati ovakve pojave.
Budući su ljudi nekada živjeli u rodovskim zajednicama,gdje su bili djed i baka,sa svojom braćom i njihovom djecom i unucima,tako ja predviđam stvaranje gay zajednice u kojoj će biti i po 10-20 muškaraca koji će živjeti na jednom imanju(farmi, poljoprivrednom dobru, ranču...) i koji će osim što će raditi svakodnevne poslove za zajednicu i zajedno međusobno spolno općiti.
Pa opće je poznat enormni promiskuitet kod gay populacije,kudikamo veći nego kod hetero,te je shodno tome i očekivati ovakve pojave.
Budući su ljudi nekada živjeli u rodovskim zajednicama,gdje su bili djed i baka,sa svojom braćom i njihovom djecom i unucima,tako ja predviđam stvaranje gay zajednice u kojoj će biti i po 10-20 muškaraca koji će živjeti na jednom imanju(farmi, poljoprivrednom dobru, ranču...) i koji će osim što će raditi svakodnevne poslove za zajednicu i zajedno međusobno spolno općiti.
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Death from above without warning: 70 years after the first one fell, interactive map reveals just where Hitler's V2 rockets killed thousands of British civilians in final months of WW2
By Harriet Arkell for MailOnline
Published: 09:30 GMT, 10 September 2014 | Updated: 14:00 GMT, 10 September 2014
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They were the terrifying rockets that weren't unveiled until the final months of the Second World War, yet still killed thousands.
Around 1,500 V2 rockets - the V stood for Vergeltungswaffe, or Vengeance Weapon - were fired at London and the south east of England, in what was seen as Hitler's last throw of the dice.
As this interactive map shows, London bore the brunt of the V2 strikes, which began 70 years ago this week with an attack on Chiswick, in the west of the capital, and ended a year later, leaving more than 7,000 Britons dead.
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View V2 rockets on London and surrounding counties in a larger map
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Precursor of the space race: The V2 rocket, or Vengeance weapon, was designed by the Germans to retaliate for devastating Allied bombing strikes on German cities
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The rocket you couldn't see coming: Faster than the speed of sound, the V2 appeared to come out of nowhere,and you only heard the noise after it landed
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Deadly missile: The first V2 strike on Britain came on 8 September 1944 and hit Chiswick, west London, killing three people and injuring 17
Begun five years ago, the map is crowd-sourced, and includes photographs, eye-witness accounts and details about individual V2 rocket attacks on London and its surrounds supplied by individuals.
Each strike site can be seen in more detail by zooming in and clicking on the yellow site markers. A work in progress, the map is still believed to be short of many strike sites, some of which can still be seen using the Sat[ellite] tab in the top right hand corner.
Unlike its predecessor the V1, this was a rocket you couldn't see coming; a space age piece of technology that laid the path for the post-war space programmes of the United States and the Soviet Union.
Designed in Germany to attack Allied cities in retaliation for increased Allied bombing strikes against German cities, the V2s were also Hitler's answer to his country's disappointment that the V1s (or doodlebugs) didn't, as billed, knock Britain out of the war.
Launched from mobile units, the 46ft (14m) tall rockets were fuelled by liquid ethanol and oxygen and weighed almost 14 tons, and were the most advanced weapon used in the war until the US dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945.
The missile was launched vertically and could travel at more than 3,500mph to hit targets more than 200 miles away, making it the world's first long-range combat-ballistic missile.
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A V2 rocket launch site in Germany - the V2s were launched vertically, going straight up 50 miles into the air, before flying in a trajectory of 120 miles
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Desperate: The launch of the V2s against Allied targets was seen as Hitler's last throw of the dice
When it landed, it left a crater 60ft wide and 16ft deep, and threw up around 3,000 tonnes of rubble into the air.
Such was its speed, the noise of the rocket rushing through the air came after it landed.
Notable V2 strikes on British soil included the first one, which hit Chiswick, west London, on 8 September 1944, killing three and injuring 17, and an attack on a Woolworths store in New Cross, south east London, in November that year which left 168 dead - England's worst death toll.
In total, the V2 attacks resulted in the deaths of around 7,250 British military personnel and civilians.
Meanwhile more than 9,000 civilians and soldiers were killed in total in V2 attacks on the Allies.
That excludes the estimated 12,000 labourers and concentration camp prisoners killed while making the missiles.
But despite the hype, and just like the V1, the V2 did not quite live up to its propaganda.
Despite its sophisticated and pioneering guidance system, the V2 often missed its target.
This situation was made worse when Britain leaked the misinformation that most V2s aimed at London were overshooting the capital by between ten and 20 miles.
As a result, Germany modified the rockets' guidance, and most subsequent rockets landed short of the city, often in underpopulated areas of Kent.
And the rocket was extraordinarily expensive to produce, using vast amounts of fuel alcohol when Germany was desperately short of it.
At a point when the German army desperately needed cheap and effective weapons that could be manufactured en masse, production of the V2s required huge investment for relatively little return.
One statistic shows that the average death toll per V2 dropped on Britain was just two people. Compared to the hundreds of Allied bombers deployed in one air raid, which could leave thousands or tens of thousands dead, the V2 did not come up trumps.
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Devastation: The worst V2 attack on Britain struck a Woolworths store in New Cross, south east London, one afternoon in November 1944, leaving 168 people dead
The automatic guidance system was perhaps the most important: this meant that once the rocket was in the air, with its destination programmed into the analogue computer, its gyroscopes could track its positioning, using the rudders to shift its course if needed.
Even today, rocket launchers still have similar engines and use gyroscopic guidance, and most are still rocket-fuelled.
The technology that went into the V2 was so sophisticated, that once the war was over, American and Soviet engineers picked the left over rockets to bits to understand how they worked.
With the help of Von Braun, who surrendered to the Allies and later became a hero of the space age, the technology was harnessed to develop rockets that would go into space.
Germany's solution to the expense was to get concentration camp prisoners to manufacture them.
Buried deep underground in a factory near the Buchenwald concentration camp, the prisoners lived in filthy conditions.
Those who weren't executed for attempted sabotage - there were reports of prisoners hanged from cranes above the workers - died from lack of food, sleep and daylight.
There was one positive legacy of the V2 rockets, though, and that was their contribution to the space race.
Given the V2's ability to power 50 miles up into the air before arcing in a trajectory of 120 miles, it was effectively the world's first space rocket.
Thus as soon as the war ended, the US and the Soviet Union began a race to capture as many V2s as they could.
America shipped 300 railcar-loads of V2s and their parts across the Atlantic, in what was known as Operation Papercclip, and used the skill of Germany rocket engineers - many of whom had surrendered to the Allies in a bid to avoid being shot dead by the Nazis to avoid their capture - to develop further rockets.
They fired them in tests and studied their range and how to better it.
Meanwhile, the Soviets used engineers to completely recreate a V2 rocket, called the R-1, before moving on to develop more powerful versions, the R-2 and the R-5.
In October 1946, the first photograph was taken from space using a US-fired V2 rocket.
It was the first outward sign that the Allies had moved on from the war and were harnessing the technology of massacre to create more sophisticated rockets which would, ultimately, reach the moon.
A few hours later that same day, a V2 struck Chiswick, in west London, killing three and injuring 17.
A third strike just a few seconds later hit a field outside Epping, Essex, leaving no-one hurt or injured.
Initially British politicians tried to cover up the new threat to their people, blaming gas explosions, but this ruse was quickly seen through, and people began to refer to V2s sardonically as 'flying gas pipes'.
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Another V2 attack on the capital: People gather round to help those trapped in the splintered wreckage of Smithfield market in London in March 1945
On 8 March 1945, a V2 hit Smithfield Market in London. Many of the victims fell through the ruined building onto the railway below, and many women and children who had gone to the meat market to buy rabbits were killed, putting the final death toll for the bomb at 110.
The worst attack on Britain came on 25 November 1944, when a V2 hit a Woolworths department store in New Cross, south east London, mid-afternoon, killing 168.
The final two V2 attacks on Britain came on 27 March 1945, and one of these attacks killed the last British civilian to be felled by a V2 - Mrs Ivy Millichamp, 34, who was at home in Orpington, Kent.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2750353/Interactive-map-reveals-hundreds-sites-Hitler-s-V2-rockets-killed-thousands-British-civilians-final-months-WW2.html#ixzz3oqRaoQyt
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- First striking Britain in September 1944, V2 - V for 'vengeance weapon - was Hitler's last throw of the dice
- Around 1,500 'vengeance weapons' were fired at London and the south east, ultimately leaving around 7,250dead
- The rockets used astonishingly advanced technology to shoot 50 miles into air, before arcing in a 120-mile trajectory
- Unlike the predecessor the V1, you could not see - or hear - a V2 coming as it travelled faster than the speed of sound
- The sophisticated technology from the V2s was later harnessed by the US and Soviet Union to pioneer space travel
By Harriet Arkell for MailOnline
Published: 09:30 GMT, 10 September 2014 | Updated: 14:00 GMT, 10 September 2014
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They were the terrifying rockets that weren't unveiled until the final months of the Second World War, yet still killed thousands.
Around 1,500 V2 rockets - the V stood for Vergeltungswaffe, or Vengeance Weapon - were fired at London and the south east of England, in what was seen as Hitler's last throw of the dice.
As this interactive map shows, London bore the brunt of the V2 strikes, which began 70 years ago this week with an attack on Chiswick, in the west of the capital, and ended a year later, leaving more than 7,000 Britons dead.
Scroll down for video
View V2 rockets on London and surrounding counties in a larger map
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Precursor of the space race: The V2 rocket, or Vengeance weapon, was designed by the Germans to retaliate for devastating Allied bombing strikes on German cities
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The rocket you couldn't see coming: Faster than the speed of sound, the V2 appeared to come out of nowhere,and you only heard the noise after it landed
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Deadly missile: The first V2 strike on Britain came on 8 September 1944 and hit Chiswick, west London, killing three people and injuring 17
Begun five years ago, the map is crowd-sourced, and includes photographs, eye-witness accounts and details about individual V2 rocket attacks on London and its surrounds supplied by individuals.
Each strike site can be seen in more detail by zooming in and clicking on the yellow site markers. A work in progress, the map is still believed to be short of many strike sites, some of which can still be seen using the Sat[ellite] tab in the top right hand corner.
Unlike its predecessor the V1, this was a rocket you couldn't see coming; a space age piece of technology that laid the path for the post-war space programmes of the United States and the Soviet Union.
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ShareDesigned in Germany to attack Allied cities in retaliation for increased Allied bombing strikes against German cities, the V2s were also Hitler's answer to his country's disappointment that the V1s (or doodlebugs) didn't, as billed, knock Britain out of the war.
Launched from mobile units, the 46ft (14m) tall rockets were fuelled by liquid ethanol and oxygen and weighed almost 14 tons, and were the most advanced weapon used in the war until the US dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945.
The missile was launched vertically and could travel at more than 3,500mph to hit targets more than 200 miles away, making it the world's first long-range combat-ballistic missile.
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A V2 rocket launch site in Germany - the V2s were launched vertically, going straight up 50 miles into the air, before flying in a trajectory of 120 miles
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Desperate: The launch of the V2s against Allied targets was seen as Hitler's last throw of the dice
When it landed, it left a crater 60ft wide and 16ft deep, and threw up around 3,000 tonnes of rubble into the air.
Such was its speed, the noise of the rocket rushing through the air came after it landed.
Notable V2 strikes on British soil included the first one, which hit Chiswick, west London, on 8 September 1944, killing three and injuring 17, and an attack on a Woolworths store in New Cross, south east London, in November that year which left 168 dead - England's worst death toll.
In total, the V2 attacks resulted in the deaths of around 7,250 British military personnel and civilians.
Meanwhile more than 9,000 civilians and soldiers were killed in total in V2 attacks on the Allies.
That excludes the estimated 12,000 labourers and concentration camp prisoners killed while making the missiles.
But despite the hype, and just like the V1, the V2 did not quite live up to its propaganda.
Despite its sophisticated and pioneering guidance system, the V2 often missed its target.
This situation was made worse when Britain leaked the misinformation that most V2s aimed at London were overshooting the capital by between ten and 20 miles.
As a result, Germany modified the rockets' guidance, and most subsequent rockets landed short of the city, often in underpopulated areas of Kent.
And the rocket was extraordinarily expensive to produce, using vast amounts of fuel alcohol when Germany was desperately short of it.
At a point when the German army desperately needed cheap and effective weapons that could be manufactured en masse, production of the V2s required huge investment for relatively little return.
One statistic shows that the average death toll per V2 dropped on Britain was just two people. Compared to the hundreds of Allied bombers deployed in one air raid, which could leave thousands or tens of thousands dead, the V2 did not come up trumps.
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Devastation: The worst V2 attack on Britain struck a Woolworths store in New Cross, south east London, one afternoon in November 1944, leaving 168 people dead
V2 TECHNOLOGY: HOW IT WORKED
Designed by German engineer Werner Von Braun, the V2 had four key points that marked the V2 out: large liquid fuel rocket engines, supersonic aerodynamics, gyroscopic guidance, and rudders in jet control.The automatic guidance system was perhaps the most important: this meant that once the rocket was in the air, with its destination programmed into the analogue computer, its gyroscopes could track its positioning, using the rudders to shift its course if needed.
Even today, rocket launchers still have similar engines and use gyroscopic guidance, and most are still rocket-fuelled.
The technology that went into the V2 was so sophisticated, that once the war was over, American and Soviet engineers picked the left over rockets to bits to understand how they worked.
With the help of Von Braun, who surrendered to the Allies and later became a hero of the space age, the technology was harnessed to develop rockets that would go into space.
Germany's solution to the expense was to get concentration camp prisoners to manufacture them.
Buried deep underground in a factory near the Buchenwald concentration camp, the prisoners lived in filthy conditions.
Those who weren't executed for attempted sabotage - there were reports of prisoners hanged from cranes above the workers - died from lack of food, sleep and daylight.
There was one positive legacy of the V2 rockets, though, and that was their contribution to the space race.
Given the V2's ability to power 50 miles up into the air before arcing in a trajectory of 120 miles, it was effectively the world's first space rocket.
Thus as soon as the war ended, the US and the Soviet Union began a race to capture as many V2s as they could.
America shipped 300 railcar-loads of V2s and their parts across the Atlantic, in what was known as Operation Papercclip, and used the skill of Germany rocket engineers - many of whom had surrendered to the Allies in a bid to avoid being shot dead by the Nazis to avoid their capture - to develop further rockets.
They fired them in tests and studied their range and how to better it.
Meanwhile, the Soviets used engineers to completely recreate a V2 rocket, called the R-1, before moving on to develop more powerful versions, the R-2 and the R-5.
In October 1946, the first photograph was taken from space using a US-fired V2 rocket.
It was the first outward sign that the Allies had moved on from the war and were harnessing the technology of massacre to create more sophisticated rockets which would, ultimately, reach the moon.
NOTABLE STRIKES BY THE SPACE AGE ROCKET
The first V2 strike ever came on the morning of 8 September 1944, landing in Charentonneau à Maison-Alfort on the edge of a newly-liberated Paris, and killing six people.A few hours later that same day, a V2 struck Chiswick, in west London, killing three and injuring 17.
A third strike just a few seconds later hit a field outside Epping, Essex, leaving no-one hurt or injured.
Initially British politicians tried to cover up the new threat to their people, blaming gas explosions, but this ruse was quickly seen through, and people began to refer to V2s sardonically as 'flying gas pipes'.
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Another V2 attack on the capital: People gather round to help those trapped in the splintered wreckage of Smithfield market in London in March 1945
On 8 March 1945, a V2 hit Smithfield Market in London. Many of the victims fell through the ruined building onto the railway below, and many women and children who had gone to the meat market to buy rabbits were killed, putting the final death toll for the bomb at 110.
The worst attack on Britain came on 25 November 1944, when a V2 hit a Woolworths department store in New Cross, south east London, mid-afternoon, killing 168.
The final two V2 attacks on Britain came on 27 March 1945, and one of these attacks killed the last British civilian to be felled by a V2 - Mrs Ivy Millichamp, 34, who was at home in Orpington, Kent.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2750353/Interactive-map-reveals-hundreds-sites-Hitler-s-V2-rockets-killed-thousands-British-civilians-final-months-WW2.html#ixzz3oqRaoQyt
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RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Vole se: Njih trojica su u vezi
Mabus,kakve veze sa temom imaju ove nebuloze koje kačiš?
jastreb- Posts : 34059
2014-04-22
Re: Vole se: Njih trojica su u vezi
Imaju ....slijedi raspad sistema.
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Vole se: Njih trojica su u vezi
Normalno da Amerikanći i Britanći nežele jaku NJemačku .,...zato su je i zatrpali swime i swačim nakon šta su joj nametnuli kriwnju i liberalizam ......kad se Nijemći pobune morat će i owi letit od tamo a jedini način da NJemačka owima pokaže srednji prst je :
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
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Pa ih onda neče držat Putin na nišanu nego Berlin tu odma preko puta ....samo neka šta zućnu ....IMA DA IM JEBU MATER ODMA.
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Vole se: Njih trojica su u vezi
meni su još najjače ove sestre koje se otimaju da rode sina svom bratu.. ne znam što bi rekao.
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