škverologija fantastica (ili zašto nas uvjeravaju da škverovi mogu bit profitabilni)

https://narod.hr/hrvatska/marcel-holjevac-uljanik-je-hrvatski-titanik-trebamo-li-svi-potonuti-s-tvrtkom-koja-mjesecno-po-zaposlenom-gubi-18-000-kuna

Kako te nije sramota lijepiti link i postavljati temu na svoj vlastiti članak?

Ima li tvoja bijeda kraja?

Šuti. Clanak je dobar

crvenkasti wrote:Kako te nije sramota lijepiti link i postavljati temu na svoj vlastiti članak?

Ima li tvoja bijeda kraja?

daj mi link na svoj članak o tome pa ću stavit i njega

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:Šuti. Clanak je dobar

fala. Članak je Economy for dummies

mogao si stavit i tekst za nas kojima vjera ne dozvoljava te poveznice

debotoijusto wrote:mogao si stavit i tekst za nas kojima vjera ne dozvoljava te poveznice

a da razumijem te ali nemam sad vremena a tekst je ogroman i trebalo bi ga u pet šest puta da bi se dao čitat

marcellus wrote:

debotoijusto wrote:mogao si stavit i tekst za nas kojima vjera ne dozvoljava te poveznice

a da razumijem te ali nemam sad vremena a tekst je ogroman i trebalo bi ga u pet šest puta da bi se dao čitat

placen si po kartici ili ne mozes ukratko/efektno prezentirat misao

no dobro , tu sve jasno treba ljudima reci kako stvari stoje i povecat nabavu sredstava za policiju i dignuti place... zatim i drugima reci kako stvari stoje 
to cini razliku izmedju politicara i ovih kokosara koje uporno birate

debotoijusto wrote:

marcellus wrote:

debotoijusto wrote:mogao si stavit i tekst za nas kojima vjera ne dozvoljava te poveznice

a da razumijem te ali nemam sad vremena a tekst je ogroman i trebalo bi ga u pet šest puta da bi se dao čitat

placen si po kartici ili ne mozes ukratko/efektno prezentirat misao

no dobro , tu sve jasno treba ljudima reci kako stvari stoje i povecat nabavu sredstava za policiju i dignuti place... zatim i drugima reci kako stvari stoje 
to cini razliku izmedju politicara i ovih kokosara koje uporno birate

misao je da škverove treba pozatvarat, političare koji vuku pare iz njih isto, i pustit mafijaše da to potaracaju i sagrade otele i golfterene.

zarade neke pare da ne moramo gubitke pokrivat, i uplate neku lovicu u proračun

jer boli te kurac jel u puli rade brodove, gumbe, uzgajaju naranče, ili organiziraju koncerte.

radi se o ekonomiji, važan je jedino novac, profit

debotoijusto wrote:

marcellus wrote:

debotoijusto wrote:mogao si stavit i tekst za nas kojima vjera ne dozvoljava te poveznice

a da razumijem te ali nemam sad vremena a tekst je ogroman i trebalo bi ga u pet šest puta da bi se dao čitat

placen si po kartici ili ne mozes ukratko/efektno prezentirat misao

no dobro , tu sve jasno treba ljudima reci kako stvari stoje i povecat nabavu sredstava za policiju i dignuti place... zatim i drugima reci kako stvari stoje 
to cini razliku izmedju politicara i ovih kokosara koje uporno birate

U JAVNOSTI je jučer glasno odjeknula vijest da je vlada na jučerašnjoj sjednici odobrila nabavu 3000 pancirki za policajce.
No od same nabave pancirki mnogo više upada u oči cijena koja za 3000 komada zaštitnih prsluka iznosi čak 54 milijuna kuna. 

Jednostavnom matematikom dolazimo do zaključka da će jedna pancirka koštati nevjerojatnih 18 tisuća kuna. 


Za usporedbu, njujorška je policija 2015. također nabavljala pancirke. New York Post tada je izvijestio da će 12 tisuća pancirki, dakle četiri puta više nego što će dobiti hrvatski policajci, koštati 7,3 milijuna dolara, odnosno oko 600 dolara po komadu. 

Pretvorimo li to u kune, Amerikanci su 12 tisuća pancirki platili oko 47 milijuna kuna ili oko 3850 kuna po komadu. Hrvatska će, ponovimo još jednom, tri tisuće pancirki platiti 54 milijuna kuna, ili 18.000 kuna po komadu. 

evo me poslusali   
sad krenit odjebavat skverane itd...

Kolega... Predugo a i nema slika.

abraham wrote:Kolega... Predugo a i nema slika.

ponijelo me nemere kraće

a kakve bi slike

Nesto prigodno za kraj tjedna. Petak je , majka mu stara.....

Nego iduci put kontaktirati i Brunu (Kajin je odradjen) i sabrati zasto je Nino zasticen kao "licki mevjed". Najzanimljivija pojava na politickom nebu DNRH. Od 5 000 DM do pet miljuna eura u desetak petnaest godina, bez znanja, ulozenog rada, pameti ili neceg treceg. Sta je cudo, cudo je. Mislim treba vidjeti nacin i patentirati, ili prodavati kao "Kako uspjeti for dummies".

Marcele, bolje od tvoga prosjeka. Osobito mi je drago da nitko s tobom nije polemizirao, očito su shvatili da treba napraviti rez.

Regoč wrote:Marcele, bolje od tvoga prosjeka. Osobito mi je drago da nitko s tobom nije polemizirao, očito su shvatili da treba napraviti rez.

mda jedino je debil agitator Marčelo zaboravio napisati da ta južnokorejska brodogradilišta dobivaju državnu potporu inače ne bi opstala ni dve sekunde.

World’s largest shipyards get government help

South Korea’s government is leading efforts to reverse fortunes for struggling Hyundai, Daewoo, and Samsung yards

(Bloomberg) — The world’s three biggest shipyards, battered by the deepest industry slump in at least two decades, are getting a helping hand — from the state.

South Korea’s government is at the forefront of efforts to revive the shipbuilders, which employ almost 62,000 people, or 1.4% of the nation’s manufacturing sector workforce. After pledging active steps in April to help the sector weather the slowdown, policy makers in Seoul on Wednesday announced an 11 trillion-won ($9.5 billion) fund to help lenders absorb losses.

For their part, Hyundai Heavy Industries Co., Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering Co. and Samsung Heavy Industries Co. unveiled plans to raise a combined 8.41 trillion won selling assets as part of the restructuring. The companies have struggled with losses and mounting debt after a slide in crude oil prices, which more than halved in the past two years, prompted customers to slash investments, and cancel or postpone projects.

“They aren’t out of the woods,” said Hong Seok Jun, an analyst at Korea Investors Service, a local affiliate of Moody’s Investors Service. “The industry needs new shipbuilding orders to really start showing signs of a recovery and after that there has to be high-quality orders.”

Weak Demand

The fund, created by the government and the Bank of Korea, is expected to start operation July 1 and run through the end of 2017. The restructuring program pursued by President Park Geun Hye’s administration could cost tens of thousands of workers their jobs in an economy that’s been hit by falling exports and weak demand at home.

“We will swiftly carry out restructuring of shipping and shipbuilding companies under the principle that the companies strictly implement their own reform plans and take losses incurred,” according to a written copy of remarks made Wednesday by Finance Minister Yoo Il Ho.

Shares of Hyundai Heavy were unchanged at 115,500 won as of 9:24 a.m. in Seoul Thursday while Samsung Heavy dropped 0.6% to 9,990 won. Daewoo Shipbuilding gained 1.8% to 4,905 won after announcing a $580 million order.

The three shipbuilders have submitted their fund-raising plans to their creditors, including state-run Korea Development Bank and KEB Hana Bank, South Korea’s government said in a statement Wednesday. The banks and regulators will meet twice a month to review the progress of the plans.

Eiffel Towers

Today’s troubles contrast with the situation five years back when the yards consumed 7.4 million tons of steel plates annually — enough to build about 1,000 Eiffel Towers. Vessels built by the ‘Big Three’ were the single-largest export item from South Korea in 2011.

Average consumption has now slid to 5.7 million tons of steel plates, according to data from the companies.

Shrinking orders for new vessels amid mounting losses have heightened concerns their cash may dwindle further. The government told the shipyards to submit their plans to help manage their financials better and minimize the impact on the economy. Brent crude traded at $52.72 a barrel, compared with about $115 two years ago.

Oil companies are projected to reduce capital expenditure by 17% this year, with offshore projects and exploration facing the steepest cuts, the International Energy Agency said in February. This follows a 24% drop in 2015, the IEA said. Leaders of the world’s largest suppliers of offshore drilling rigs and the services that go with them see the oil-market recovery taking even longer than expected last year.

Daewoo Shipbuilding said it will carry out the restructuring plan and expects to post an operating profit in the second quarter, the company said in an e-mailed response to Bloomberg. Hyundai Heavy said it will do its utmost to rebuild market confidence. Samsung Heavy expects orders to revive in the second half and aims to win more than $5 billion worth contracts by the end of this year, it said.

Winning Orders

Not all of it may be negative news for the industry, said Park Moo Hyun, a Seoul-based analyst at Hana Daetoo Securities Co. The steps by South Korea may be coming amid nascent signs of a recovery as vessel deliveries in terms of deadweight tons increased 39% in May from a year earlier, he said.

“Things are starting to turn around for the shipyards as more vessels and offshore projects are delivered to clients,” Park said. “The focus now should be on providing funds to help them win new orders.”

South Korean shipbuilders aren’t the only ones feeling the pain. Rivals in Japan, China and Singapore, such as Mitsui Engineering & Shipbuilding Co., Cosco Corp. Singapore and Sembcorp Marine Ltd., posted losses or smaller profits last year because of write-offs from their offshore operations.

Jobs, Wages

Hyundai Heavy, whose first-quarter net income beat estimates, plans to raise 3.5 trillion won selling shares in other companies such as KCC Corp. and Hyundai Motor Co., as well as its three financial units, the Ulsan-based company said Wednesday. It will seek to save 900 billion won from job and pay cuts. The shipyard plans to cut its debt-to-equity ratio to 80% from the current 134%.

Daewoo Shipbuilding, which counts Korea Development Bank as its biggest shareholder, will seek to raise 3.45 trillion won from sale of its 14 subsidiaries, two floating docks and the spin-off its specialty shipbuilding business. It will also reduce jobs and salaries to save money, it said.

The latest plan is in addition to the 1.85 trillion won the shipyard said it will seek to raise in October last year.

Samsung Heavy plans to sell assets through bond sales and reduce jobs to raise 1.46 trillion won. It also plans to sell new shares if more cash is needed, it said.

The three shipyards have 9.57 trillion won in debt and loans with maturities that extend to as long as 2022, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

https://www.workboat.com/news/shipbuilding/battered-south-korean-shipyards-get-government-help/

Zgnječe, da si čital, vidjel bi da se radi o restrukturiranju industrije, a ne o preživljavanju neperspektivnih. Ulaže se u nješto što je dosad dobro poslovalo, a moglo bi i ubuduće. Ta perspektivnost je razlika između naših i korejskih brodogradilištah. Iako, ako kineska i vijetnamska budu konukrentnija, ništa ih neće spasiti.

debotoijusto wrote:

debotoijusto wrote:

marcellus wrote:

debotoijusto wrote:mogao si stavit i tekst za nas kojima vjera ne dozvoljava te poveznice

a da razumijem te ali nemam sad vremena a tekst je ogroman i trebalo bi ga u pet šest puta da bi se dao čitat

placen si po kartici ili ne mozes ukratko/efektno prezentirat misao

no dobro , tu sve jasno treba ljudima reci kako stvari stoje i povecat nabavu sredstava za policiju i dignuti place... zatim i drugima reci kako stvari stoje 
to cini razliku izmedju politicara i ovih kokosara koje uporno birate

U JAVNOSTI je jučer glasno odjeknula vijest da je vlada na jučerašnjoj sjednici odobrila nabavu 3000 pancirki za policajce.
No od same nabave pancirki mnogo više upada u oči cijena koja za 3000 komada zaštitnih prsluka iznosi čak 54 milijuna kuna. 

Jednostavnom matematikom dolazimo do zaključka da će jedna pancirka koštati nevjerojatnih 18 tisuća kuna. 


Za usporedbu, njujorška je policija 2015. također nabavljala pancirke. New York Post tada je izvijestio da će 12 tisuća pancirki, dakle četiri puta više nego što će dobiti hrvatski policajci, koštati 7,3 milijuna dolara, odnosno oko 600 dolara po komadu. 

Pretvorimo li to u kune, Amerikanci su 12 tisuća pancirki platili oko 47 milijuna kuna ili oko 3850 kuna po komadu. Hrvatska će, ponovimo još jednom, tri tisuće pancirki platiti 54 milijuna kuna, ili 18.000 kuna po komadu. 

evo me poslusali   
sad krenit odjebavat skverane itd...

E sad vidi ... mup bi kupio ili ce kupiti pancirke od 2,500 eura komad a koštaju 500 eura od firme Kroko d.o.o . Firma od koje mup nabavlja policijsku opremu ima 1-9 zaposlenih?! I temeljni kapital 20 000 kn ?!
Jedan direktor je Denis Popović , mozda poznat javnosti jer je nedavno držao zarobljene Kineze u kući kao robove :). Drugi direktor ima inicijale ( on je tajan) , netko iz HDZ 100% .
I imaju deal s nekim iz MUP -a. Ministar mora imati veze s tim.
Pa to je u svakoj drugoj državi za doživotan zatvor a tu normalno ..

A ti novinari su isto beskorisni, umjesto da iskopaju tko je tajni ortak u kroku i tko je naručio iz mupa pancirke oni bezveze, mlate praznu slamu..