Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu
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Re: Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu
Ista osoba?
Na početku invazije i danas.
Svi poginuli pod njegovom komandom idu njegovu dušu, kao i oni na drugoj strani.
Normalan čovjek taj osjećaje ne može dugo nositi...nema spavanja itd, jelda
Ovaj neće dugo. .
Na početku invazije i danas.
Svi poginuli pod njegovom komandom idu njegovu dušu, kao i oni na drugoj strani.
Normalan čovjek taj osjećaje ne može dugo nositi...nema spavanja itd, jelda
Ovaj neće dugo. .
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Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
Re: Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu
Eroo wrote:Ovaj neće dugo. .
Daj Bože da ga nadživiš, pa da mu se smiješ kad umre.
crvenkasti-
Posts : 29707
2014-04-17
Re: Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu
Ovo bi Maxo zna objasnit, ali u zadnje vrijeme nema na forumu.
Sam se ne bih usudio niti pokušati bilo što reći, ali da je zanimljivo-JE.
Sam se ne bih usudio niti pokušati bilo što reći, ali da je zanimljivo-JE.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
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Nasmijao sam mu se sad, dok je živ...crvenkasti wrote:Eroo wrote:Ovaj neće dugo. .
Daj Bože da ga nadživiš, pa da mu se smiješ kad umre.
Kako izgledaju zabave s mrtvima vidjeli smo u Buči Irpinu.
Mi s ove strane ne razumijemo što je u tome zabavno.
Slično smo vidjeli u Srebrenici i Vukovaru.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
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Germany and France ‘killed’ Minsk agreements – Russia
Berlin and Paris torpedoed the 2015 ceasefire deal for Donbass by shielding Kiev’s non-compliance, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said
Germany is demanding that Russia guarantee Ukraine’s territorial integrity, but such a deal was previously signed, only to be “killed” by Berlin and Paris, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Monday.
“When [German Chancellor] Olaf Scholz demands that Russia should be compelled to sign an agreement granting Ukraine guarantees of territorial integrity and sovereignty, all his attempts are in vain. There was already such a deal – the Minsk agreements – which was killed by Berlin and Paris. They were shielding Kiev, which openly refused to comply,” he wrote in an op-ed for the Russian newspaper Izvestia.
Russia, Germany and France brokered the 2015 Minsk agreements between Ukraine and Donbass, which were designed to put an end to hostilities. But according to Lavrov, Berlin and Paris failed to ensure Kiev’s compliance.
The Russian foreign minister noted that former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko admitted the Minsk agreements meant nothing for Kiev, and Ukraine used them only to buy time.
“Our task was to stave off the threat... to buy time to restore economic growth and create powerful armed forces. This task was achieved. The Minsk Agreements have fulfilled their mission,” Poroshenko said in June.
Lavrov also mentioned that in December 2019, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky had a chance to fulfil the Minsk agreements at the so-called Normandy format summit held in Paris. After negotiations with leaders of Russia, Germany and France, Zelensky pledged to resolve issues surrounding the special status of Donbass. “Of course, he did nothing, and Berlin and Paris were shielding him once again,” he noted.
The Minsk agreements included a series of measures designed to rein in hostilities in Donbass and reconcile the warring parties. The first steps were a ceasefire and an OSCE-monitored pullout of heavy weapons from the frontline, which were fulfilled to some degree.
Ukraine reveals negotiation 'end point'
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Kiev was then supposed to grant a general amnesty to the rebels and extensive autonomy for the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Ukrainian troops were supposed to take control of the rebel-held areas after Kiev granted them representation, and otherwise reintegrate them as part of Ukraine.
Poroshenko’s government refused to implement these portions of the deal, claiming it could not proceed unless it fully secured the border between the breakaway republics and Russia. He instead endorsed an economic blockade of the rebel regions, initiated by Ukrainian nationalist forces.
Zelensky’s presidency gave an initial boost to the peace process, but stalled after a series of protests by right-wing radicals, who threatened to depose the new Ukrainian president if he tried to deliver on his campaign promises.
Kiev’s failure to implement the roadmap, and the continued hostilities with rebels, were among the primary reasons cited by Russia when it attacked Ukraine in late February. Days before launching the offensive, Moscow recognized the breakaway Ukrainian republics as sovereign states, offering them security guarantees and demanding that Kiev pull back its troops. Zelensky refused to comply.
Berlin and Paris torpedoed the 2015 ceasefire deal for Donbass by shielding Kiev’s non-compliance, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said
Germany is demanding that Russia guarantee Ukraine’s territorial integrity, but such a deal was previously signed, only to be “killed” by Berlin and Paris, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said on Monday.
“When [German Chancellor] Olaf Scholz demands that Russia should be compelled to sign an agreement granting Ukraine guarantees of territorial integrity and sovereignty, all his attempts are in vain. There was already such a deal – the Minsk agreements – which was killed by Berlin and Paris. They were shielding Kiev, which openly refused to comply,” he wrote in an op-ed for the Russian newspaper Izvestia.
Russia, Germany and France brokered the 2015 Minsk agreements between Ukraine and Donbass, which were designed to put an end to hostilities. But according to Lavrov, Berlin and Paris failed to ensure Kiev’s compliance.
The Russian foreign minister noted that former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko admitted the Minsk agreements meant nothing for Kiev, and Ukraine used them only to buy time.
“Our task was to stave off the threat... to buy time to restore economic growth and create powerful armed forces. This task was achieved. The Minsk Agreements have fulfilled their mission,” Poroshenko said in June.
Lavrov also mentioned that in December 2019, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky had a chance to fulfil the Minsk agreements at the so-called Normandy format summit held in Paris. After negotiations with leaders of Russia, Germany and France, Zelensky pledged to resolve issues surrounding the special status of Donbass. “Of course, he did nothing, and Berlin and Paris were shielding him once again,” he noted.
The Minsk agreements included a series of measures designed to rein in hostilities in Donbass and reconcile the warring parties. The first steps were a ceasefire and an OSCE-monitored pullout of heavy weapons from the frontline, which were fulfilled to some degree.
Ukraine reveals negotiation 'end point'
Read more Ukraine reveals negotiation 'end point'
Kiev was then supposed to grant a general amnesty to the rebels and extensive autonomy for the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Ukrainian troops were supposed to take control of the rebel-held areas after Kiev granted them representation, and otherwise reintegrate them as part of Ukraine.
Poroshenko’s government refused to implement these portions of the deal, claiming it could not proceed unless it fully secured the border between the breakaway republics and Russia. He instead endorsed an economic blockade of the rebel regions, initiated by Ukrainian nationalist forces.
Zelensky’s presidency gave an initial boost to the peace process, but stalled after a series of protests by right-wing radicals, who threatened to depose the new Ukrainian president if he tried to deliver on his campaign promises.
Kiev’s failure to implement the roadmap, and the continued hostilities with rebels, were among the primary reasons cited by Russia when it attacked Ukraine in late February. Days before launching the offensive, Moscow recognized the breakaway Ukrainian republics as sovereign states, offering them security guarantees and demanding that Kiev pull back its troops. Zelensky refused to comply.
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mentalitet- Posts : 5254
2020-07-05
Re: Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu
Eroo wrote:Nasmijao sam mu se sad, dok je živ...crvenkasti wrote:Eroo wrote:Ovaj neće dugo. .
Daj Bože da ga nadživiš, pa da mu se smiješ kad umre.
Kako izgledaju zabave s mrtvima vidjeli smo u Buči Irpinu.
Mi s ove strane ne razumijemo što je u tome zabavno.
Slično smo vidjeli u Srebrenici i Vukovaru.
Daj stavi opet one slike mrtvih Rusa. Nema veze što nisu nove. Čovjeku milo oko srca.
crvenkasti-
Posts : 29707
2014-04-17
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This is How Dangerous Iranian Stealth Drones Are - And Why That Could Soon Be Very Bad News For Ukraine
Despite ongoing advances in Ukraine, American intelligence has reported that the Russian Military is seeking to strengthen its position in the ongoing war with the acquisition of drones from the Islamic Republic of Iran. Although Iran neglected to vote against condemning Russian military action in Ukraine at the United Nations, the two have a history of close military cooperation from the mid-2010s as their forces were closely integrated together with those of Syria for joint counterinsurgency operations in the country. While China has strictly refrained from arms sales to either side of the Russian-Ukrainian War, Iran alongside North Korea remains the only country with a sizeable defence sector outside the Western sphere of influence that is capable of meaningfully contributing to the Russian war effort with arms supplies. Although Iran’s defence sector is far from state of the art overall compared to that of Russia itself, unmanned aircraft remain a leading Iranian strength and an area which has been largely neglected in the Russian Military. Iranian drones have been extensively combat tested in Syria and Iraq, flying thousands of missions primarily using more conservative non-stealth designs such as the Shahed 129 – an analogue to the American Predator and Chinese Wing Loong II. Russia’s reliance on very large and costly fighters, with light or even medium weight jets capable of launching precision strikes being few and far between, means access to low cost drones with advanced capabilities could serve as a force multiplier for its air campaign.
Iranian Shahed 129 Attack Drone
Iran has more experience deploying high performance stealth drones in combat than any other country, with these representing an asset which only the United States and China have equivalents to, and should these aircraft and accompanying training and experience be transferred to Russia the result could be particularly game changing for the Ukrainian theatre. The complexity of the aircraft means it cannot be ruled out that Iranian personnel may participate in operations, much as Russia itself during the Soviet era deployed personnel across the world to man complex military hardware for its third world allies ranging from Libya in the 1980s to China in the 1950s.
A series of major advances for Iranian drone development began in the early 2010s, after a successful Iranian electronic attack on a CIA-operated Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel stealth drone over its airspace in 2011 led to the aircraft being recovered in tact and used as the basis for a series of flying wing stealth drones. The RQ-170 may well have been the stealthiest military aircraft in the world at the time, although Iranian sources claimed their domestic derivatives surpassed the U.S. original. The Saegheh reconnaissance aircraft and the Shahed 171 attack aircraft were earlier flying wing designs based on the RQ-170, with the former proving extremely survivable in some of the densest air defence environments on the planet when one penetrated Israeli airspace in February 2018. The aircraft evaded multiple attempts by Israel’s U.S.-made Patriot missile batteries to neutralise it, and had to be brought down by gunfire at close range where its stealth capabilities did not provide protection. Former head of Mossad Danny Yatom stated regarding the incident: “It was a sophisticated operation. The UAV was almost an exact replica of the U.S. drone that fell in their territory. If it had exploded somewhere in Israel, it may not have been possible to identify it as an Iranian manufactured drone.”
Iran Shahed 191 Stealth Drone
Since the lifting of the UN arms embargo on Iran in October 2020, the export of all manner of conventional weapons by the country has been entirely legal although the loss of prestige Russia’s defence sector could suffer from its military’s purchases of Iranian hardware may have provided some cause for hesitation by Moscow. The possibility of Iranian technology transfers to support Russia’s development of drones, potentially resembling that between Israel and Russia following a 2009 drone license production contract, also remains significantly. Russia could also potentially offset the costs of the new assets by providing military hardware to Iran, with the Islamic Republic’s conventional forces being decades past obsolescence in a wide range of areas from manned combat aviation to armoured warfare. S-400 air defence systems, Su-30SM or Su-35 fighters, and Bastion coastal defence systems are among the assets that Iran has long been reported to have an interest in. Iran’s newer stealth drones most notably the Shahed 181 and Shahed 191 strike platforms could prove particularly problematic for Ukrainian defences, which are considerably less dense or sophisticated than those over Israel. Iran remains the only country known to have combat tested such flying wing stealth drones, and access to its knowhow and technologies could potentially significantly alter the course of the war in Ukraine while also bolstering Russia’s position against other adversaries. The transfer could also significantly contribute to the prestige of Iran’s drone programs and increase foreign interest in making acquisitions.
Iranian Fotros Drone
Despite ongoing advances in Ukraine, American intelligence has reported that the Russian Military is seeking to strengthen its position in the ongoing war with the acquisition of drones from the Islamic Republic of Iran. Although Iran neglected to vote against condemning Russian military action in Ukraine at the United Nations, the two have a history of close military cooperation from the mid-2010s as their forces were closely integrated together with those of Syria for joint counterinsurgency operations in the country. While China has strictly refrained from arms sales to either side of the Russian-Ukrainian War, Iran alongside North Korea remains the only country with a sizeable defence sector outside the Western sphere of influence that is capable of meaningfully contributing to the Russian war effort with arms supplies. Although Iran’s defence sector is far from state of the art overall compared to that of Russia itself, unmanned aircraft remain a leading Iranian strength and an area which has been largely neglected in the Russian Military. Iranian drones have been extensively combat tested in Syria and Iraq, flying thousands of missions primarily using more conservative non-stealth designs such as the Shahed 129 – an analogue to the American Predator and Chinese Wing Loong II. Russia’s reliance on very large and costly fighters, with light or even medium weight jets capable of launching precision strikes being few and far between, means access to low cost drones with advanced capabilities could serve as a force multiplier for its air campaign.
Iranian Shahed 129 Attack Drone
Iran has more experience deploying high performance stealth drones in combat than any other country, with these representing an asset which only the United States and China have equivalents to, and should these aircraft and accompanying training and experience be transferred to Russia the result could be particularly game changing for the Ukrainian theatre. The complexity of the aircraft means it cannot be ruled out that Iranian personnel may participate in operations, much as Russia itself during the Soviet era deployed personnel across the world to man complex military hardware for its third world allies ranging from Libya in the 1980s to China in the 1950s.
A series of major advances for Iranian drone development began in the early 2010s, after a successful Iranian electronic attack on a CIA-operated Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel stealth drone over its airspace in 2011 led to the aircraft being recovered in tact and used as the basis for a series of flying wing stealth drones. The RQ-170 may well have been the stealthiest military aircraft in the world at the time, although Iranian sources claimed their domestic derivatives surpassed the U.S. original. The Saegheh reconnaissance aircraft and the Shahed 171 attack aircraft were earlier flying wing designs based on the RQ-170, with the former proving extremely survivable in some of the densest air defence environments on the planet when one penetrated Israeli airspace in February 2018. The aircraft evaded multiple attempts by Israel’s U.S.-made Patriot missile batteries to neutralise it, and had to be brought down by gunfire at close range where its stealth capabilities did not provide protection. Former head of Mossad Danny Yatom stated regarding the incident: “It was a sophisticated operation. The UAV was almost an exact replica of the U.S. drone that fell in their territory. If it had exploded somewhere in Israel, it may not have been possible to identify it as an Iranian manufactured drone.”
Iran Shahed 191 Stealth Drone
Since the lifting of the UN arms embargo on Iran in October 2020, the export of all manner of conventional weapons by the country has been entirely legal although the loss of prestige Russia’s defence sector could suffer from its military’s purchases of Iranian hardware may have provided some cause for hesitation by Moscow. The possibility of Iranian technology transfers to support Russia’s development of drones, potentially resembling that between Israel and Russia following a 2009 drone license production contract, also remains significantly. Russia could also potentially offset the costs of the new assets by providing military hardware to Iran, with the Islamic Republic’s conventional forces being decades past obsolescence in a wide range of areas from manned combat aviation to armoured warfare. S-400 air defence systems, Su-30SM or Su-35 fighters, and Bastion coastal defence systems are among the assets that Iran has long been reported to have an interest in. Iran’s newer stealth drones most notably the Shahed 181 and Shahed 191 strike platforms could prove particularly problematic for Ukrainian defences, which are considerably less dense or sophisticated than those over Israel. Iran remains the only country known to have combat tested such flying wing stealth drones, and access to its knowhow and technologies could potentially significantly alter the course of the war in Ukraine while also bolstering Russia’s position against other adversaries. The transfer could also significantly contribute to the prestige of Iran’s drone programs and increase foreign interest in making acquisitions.
Iranian Fotros Drone
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AlfaOmega- Posts : 10386
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Iran samo može dobiti po pičci.AlfaOmega wrote:This is How Dangerous Iranian Stealth Drones Are - And Why That Could Soon Be Very Bad News For Ukraine
Na njihovom mjestu se ne bih miješao, jer su već sada
pod budnim okom Israela.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
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Berislav je nasuprot Nove Kahovke, na desnoj strani obale Dnipra-
Rekao bih da je i ovo djelo HIMARS-a.
Rekao bih da je i ovo djelo HIMARS-a.
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Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
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H&M definitvno napustio Rusiju i 6600 direktno uposlenih ostali bez primanja. Na to dodati logistiku, uhljebe i sl. Tiha voda brege lomi ili kako vec....Kila jebenog mozga...
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abraham-
Posts : 14669
2014-04-14
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Ne mi ti o moralu, rusofili ste odavno izgubili pravo na to.crvenkasti wrote:Eroo wrote:Nasmijao sam mu se sad, dok je živ...crvenkasti wrote:Eroo wrote:Ovaj neće dugo. .
Daj Bože da ga nadživiš, pa da mu se smiješ kad umre.
Kako izgledaju zabave s mrtvima vidjeli smo u Buči Irpinu.
Mi s ove strane ne razumijemo što je u tome zabavno.
Slično smo vidjeli u Srebrenici i Vukovaru.
Daj stavi opet one slike mrtvih Rusa. Nema veze što nisu nove. Čovjeku milo oko srca.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
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Kome se da saslusati "light" kepeca.
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abraham-
Posts : 14669
2014-04-14
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Ukri s preciznim i s većim dometom topova i haubica (plus HIMARS), nadoknađuju
manjak količine vatrene moći. Rusi su frustrirani s ovom činjenicom i za uzvrat
nasumce gađaju civilne objekte u unutrašnjosti Ukrajine.
manjak količine vatrene moći. Rusi su frustrirani s ovom činjenicom i za uzvrat
nasumce gađaju civilne objekte u unutrašnjosti Ukrajine.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
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Seversk su zauzeli Rusi. Soledar borbe u samom gradu.
Avdijevka u poluokruzenju
Avdijevka u poluokruzenju
Ringo10- Posts : 21667
2015-09-24
Re: Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu
ti si luđi od ovoga spamera svog zeme ...samo rokajteRingo10 wrote:Seversk su zauzeli Rusi. Soledar borbe u samom gradu.
Avdijevka u poluokruzenju
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AssadNaPodmornici- Posts : 22267
2018-06-14
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Odslušao...abraham wrote:Kome se da saslusati "light" kepeca.
Za sebe znam da se moji komentari ne odnose na njega i na ruske ljude poput njega.
Želim vjerovati da ih i nije baš tako malo. Ako sam u ovom momentu ukrofil to nipošto
ne znači da sam antirus, ali jesam "antirusofil". Rusofili su loši ljudi, lošeg po moralu i karakteru.
Oni ne vide kao ovaj jutjuber tko je bacio kamenčić u vodu i prouzročio valove, od kojih trpe
mnogi u Rusiji i Ukrajini, pa i cijelom svijetu. Rusofili se vesele smrzavanju ljudi na'zimu,
i gladovanju po svijetu zbog pomanjkanja hrane...ili previsokih cijena iste.
Jutjuber se moli da anđel Mihovil sa svojim mačevima pobijedi krivce za nastalo stanje,
kao i one koji su ukrali njegovu zemlju, njihov(i ukrajinski itd) mir i pravo na sretan život.
Moje molitve su bile u tom smjeru i dosad. Vjerujem da nisam usamljen u tome.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
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Ti nisi čak ni lud, ti si prazna olupina bez sadržaja.AssadNaPodmornici wrote:ti si luđi od ovoga spamera svog zeme ...samo rokajteRingo10 wrote:Seversk su zauzeli Rusi. Soledar borbe u samom gradu.
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