Huawei gubi i procesore, Trump obrisao pod sa Kinezima

Hektorović wrote:

Prava ekspanzija Kineske mornarice počela je tek prije 6 godine... i tek se zadnje 3 godine vide rezultati...

To je u biti najviše zabrinulo zapad, isto je sa tehnologijom... huawei je prije 5 godina proizvodio plastične androide sa dna kace, i tek počinjao dominirati mrežnom scenom...

evo još jednog filozofa teška je to mentalna bolest. rekoh davno da će hrvatsku uništiti filozofi u sprezi sa kriminalcima nebitno kojeg predznaka.

evo Istra već ima prva je regija koja ima operativnu G5 mrežu i infrastrukturu koja je u funkciji znači radi.

što se tiče Huawei kompanije: hmmm sa dna kace kaže bosansko rvacki filozof kojem je vlastita država toliko sjebana da je gora i od Siera Leone jebote crnci imaju veći IQ od vas rvackih vilozofa. vi bi ste se izgubili u Africi i završili u stomaku nekog gladnog lava.


Milestones
Year 2017
Carrier business: Moving from the investment-driven to value-driven network construction model

Internet of Things (IoT): We continued to advance our IoT strategy. Our NB-IoT technology has become increasingly mature, with over 500,000 base stations deployed around the world and more than 10 million commercial connections. We worked with over 1,000 ecosystem partners to build the ecosystem, ushering in a golden age for IoT development.
All-Cloud: We continued to advance our All-Cloud strategy. Huawei has signed over 350 NFV and 380 SDN commercial contracts around the world and deployed more than 30 CloudAIR commercial networks with wireless air interfaces. These actions are leading efforts to make All-Cloud networks a reality.
5G: We conducted 5G precommercial tests with over 30 leading carriers in more than 10 cities around the world. The performance of our networks far exceeded the requirements set by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU).
Enterprise business: Enabling digital transformation across all industries

We continued to enhance product and solution innovations in cloud, big data, campus networks, data centers, IoT, and other domains. We also worked to promote the extensive application of our innovative products and solutions in smart city and safe city projects, as well as in the finance, energy, transportation, manufacturing, and other sectors.
We worked to build open, flexible, and secure ICT infrastructure platforms that promote greater synergy between devices, networks, and the cloud. These are the platforms for customer and partner platforms. We are also determined to build symbiotic relationships with our ecosystem partners founded on shared success, and aim to cultivate a fertile environment in which a robust ecosystem will grow and sustainable development is possible.
Currently, 197 Fortune Global 500 companies – 45 of which are Fortune 100 companies – have chosen Huawei as their partner for digital transformation.
Consumer business: Building a world-class smart device brand

A synergy was created between our Huawei and Honor brands and both saw a steady rise in consumer loyalty, leading to rapid growth in the market. In 2017, Huawei shipped a total of 153 million smartphones (including Honor phones), securing more than 10% of the global market share. We are firmly positioned among the top three phone makers in the world and remain the market leader in China.
We released the HUAWEI Mate 10 – the first smartphone with an embedded artificial intelligence (AI) chipset. With this groundbreaking device, we have unleashed the power of AI to bring our consumers a smartphone that’s truly smart.
Our global brand awareness increased from 81% in 2016 to 86% in 2017. The number of consumers considering a Huawei device in non-Chinese markets saw a year-on-year increase of 100%, which put Huawei among the top three global vendors in this category for the first time.
Huawei Cloud: Building open, trustworthy cloud platforms

In 2017, Huawei set up a Cloud Business Unit (BU). At the end of 2017, Huawei’s cloud service portfolio consisted of 99 services across 14 major categories. In addition, we have launched over 50 solutions for manufacturing, healthcare, e-commerce, connected vehicle, SAP, HPC, and IoT applications.
We officially launched the Enterprise Intelligence (EI) platform. This platform combines Huawei’s years of AI expertise and best practices in AI with enterprise application scenarios to deliver a one-stop AI platform as services to our enterprise customers.
We continued to build an open, collaborative cloud ecosystem that will thrive on shared success. The total number of our cloud service partners has exceeded 2,000, including four partners with which we have developed a symbiotic relationship.
Year 2016
Huawei has supported the stable operations of over 1,500 networks in more than 170 countries and regions, serving over one-third of the world's population.
Huawei has deployed over 60 4.5G networks worldwide. Our WTTx wireless home broadband solution has provided services for more than 30 million households, and we have deployed over 190 mobile backhaul networks in over 100 countries.
Huawei has signed more than 170 contracts relating to commercial cloud networks worldwide. Our VoLTE and VoWiFi solutions have been deployed on 110 networks worldwide. The cloud service platform for digital services has attracted over 4,000 partners, and offers over 600,000 units of digital content and applications.
Working together with over 500 partners, Huawei has provided cloud computing solutions to customers across more than 130 countries and regions, and delivered over two million virtual machines and 420 cloud data centers.
Our Smart City solutions have been in use in more than 100 cities in over 40 countries. Huawei took the lead in drafting nine national standards for smart cities in China, and Huawei's Safe City solutions have served more than 800 million people in over 200 cities across more than 80 countries and regions.
In the finance domain, Huawei's omnichannel banking solutions have served more than 300 financial institutions globally, including 6 of the world's top 10 banks. In the energy domain, the Huawei Better Connected Smart Grid Solution has been deployed in 65 countries, serving over 170 customers in the electricity sector. In the transportation domain, we have worked with over 60 industry partners – providing Digital Urban Rail and smart airport solutions for networks comprising over 220,000 km of railways and highways, and more than 15 airports with annual traffic of over 30 million passengers.
We shipped 139 million smartphones in 2016, up 29% from 2015, and achieved steady growth for the fifth consecutive year. Huawei's global smartphone market share rose to 11.9%, cementing our ranking as one of the top 3 players globally.
Year 2015
In 2015, Huawei remained the top patent applicant for the second year, with 3,898 applications, according to statistics of the World Intellectual Property Organization.
Huawei's LTE networks cover more than 140 capital cities. The company has deployed over 400 LTE commercial networks and more than 180 EPC commercial networks.
In the optical transport field, Huawei partnered with a European operator to build the world's first 1T optical transport network (OTN), and collaborated with BT to complete testing for 3 Tbit/s optical transmission on live networks, the fastest speed in the industry.
Huawei launched the world's first SDN-based agile IoT solution.
Huawei launched Kunlun, the world's first small server with 32 sockets running on the x86 open architecture.
In 2015, Huawei shipped more than 100 million smartphones. According to GFK, Huawei ranked No. 3 in 2015 global smartphone market, ranked No. 1 in terms of market share in 2015 Chinese smartphone market.
Year 2014
Established 5G technology R&D centers in nine countries.
Constructed 186 commercial networks globally using our 400G core routers as of the end of 2014.
Built more than 480 data centers as of the end of 2014, among which over 160 were cloud data centers.
Ran 45 global training centers，ran more than 20 service operation centers (SOCs) globally.
Joined 177 standards and open source organizations, and held 183 key positions.
In 2014，Huawei shipped more than 75 million smartphones.
Year 2013
We set up the Financial Risk Control Center (FRCC) in London to manage global financial risks and ensure that our financial operations remain efficient, secure, and standard-compliant. Our European Logistics Center was put into official operation in Hungary, covering countries throughout Europe, Central Asia, the Middle East, and Africa.
As a major facilitator of 5G projects initiated by the European Union and a founding member of the 5G Innovation Centre (5GIC) in the UK, we released a 5G white paper, proactively constructed a global 5G ecosystem, and carried out joint research in close collaboration with more than 20 universities worldwide. We played an active role in contributing to the development of future wireless technologies, industry standards, and the industry chain.
Our commercial 400G router solution was recognized by 49 customers and put into large-scale commercial use. We were the first to launch a 1T router line card for backbone routers, a super-large-capacity 40T WDM prototype, and a new AOSN architecture.
We remained the leader in commercial LTE deployment worldwide. Our solutions have been deployed in more than 100 capital cities and nine financial centers.
We launched the world’s first service- and user experience-centric agile network architecture, along with the first-of-its-kind agile switch S12700. These offerings are ideal for such new applications as cloud computing, Bring Your Own Device (BYOD), Software-Defined Networking (SDN), Internet of Things (IoT), multi-service support, and Big Data.
By adhering to a consumer-centric approach and a “Make it Possible” brand proposition, we continued to focus on a quality strategy. Our flagship device, the Ascend P6, achieved extraordinary results in terms of both brand awareness and profit. Historical breakthroughs were made in our smartphone business, and we were ranked among the top three globally. Global brand awareness of our mobile phones saw an annual increase of 110%.
Year 2012
Continuously promoted globalized operations, stepped up investments in Europe, invested more in the UK, established a new R&D center in Finland, and set up local boards of directors (BODs) and advisory boards in France and the UK.
Contributed 20% of all approved standards applications for 3GPP LTE Core Specifications.
Unveiled the industry's first 400G DWDM optical transport system and launched 480G line card that has the industry's largest capacity in the IP field.
Partnered with customers in 33 countries in cloud computing and built the world’s largest desktop cloud, which is used by approximately 70,000 employees for work every day.
Launched middle-range and high-end flagship smartphones, such as the Ascend P1, Ascend D1 Quad, and Honor, whose sales soared in developed countries.
Year 2011
Unveiled the GigaSite and solution U2Net architecture.
Build 20 cloud computing data centers.
Shipped approximately 20 million smartphones.
Acquired Symantec's shares in Huawei Symantec at US$530 million.
Established the 2012 Laboratories.
Launched the HUAWEI SmartCare service solution.
Received six top LTE awards.
Year 2010
Deployed over 80 SingleRAN networks among which 28 were commercial LTE/EPC networks
Established its Cyber Security Evaluation Centre in the UK
Signed a Voluntary Green Agreement with the China Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT)
Joined the UN Broadband Commission for Digital Development
Awarded the"2010 Corporate Use of Innovation Award" by The Economist
Year 2009
Ranks No.2 in global market share of radio access equipment
Successfully delivers the world' s first LTE/EPC commercial network for TeliaSonera in Oslo Norway
Launches the world' s first end-to-end 100G solution from routers to transmission system
Receives "2009 Corporate Award" from IEEE Standards Association(IEEE-SA)
Receives the Financial Times' Arcelor Mittal Boldness in Business award for performance in and contribution to emerging markets and ranks the fifth most innovative company in the world by Fast Company
Achieves a year-on-year decrease of more than 20% in resource consumption by Huawei's main products; deploys over 3,000 sites powered by alternative energies around the world
Year 2008
Recognized by BusinessWeek as one of the world' s most influential companies
Ranks No. 3 by Informa in terms of worldwide market share in mobile network equipment
First large scale commercial deployment of UMTS/HSPA in North America, for TELUS and Bell Canada
Ranks No. 1 by ABI in mobile broadband devices having shipped over 20 million units
Largest applicant under WIPO's Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT), with 1,737 applications published in 2008; accounts for 10% of LTE patents worldwide
Year 2007
Establishes joint venture with Symantec, to develop storage and security appliances
Establishes joint venture with Global Marine, to provide end-to-end submarine network solutions
A partner to all the top operators in Europe at the end of 2007
Won 2007 Global Supplier Award by Vodafone. Was the only network equipment supplier to be awarded this specific accolade
Unveils its ALL IP FMC solutions strategy designed to leverage distinct benefits for telecom carriers, from TCO savings to reduced energy consumption
Year 2006
Divests 49 percent stake in H3C for USD880 million
Establishes Shanghai-based joint R&D Center with Motorola to develop UMTS technologies
Introduced new visual identity (VI). The new VI reflects our principles of customer-focus, innovation, steady and sustainable growth, and harmony.
Year 2005
International contract orders exceed domestic sales for the first time
Selects as a preferred telecoms equipment supplier and signs Global Framework Agreement with Vodafone,
Selects as a preferred 21Century Network (21CN) supplier by British Telecom (BT) to provide multi-service network access (MSAN) components and optical transmission equipment
Year 2004
Establishes joint venture with Siemens to develop TD-SCDMA solutions
Achieves first significant contract win in Europe valued at over USD25 million with Dutch operator, Telfort
Year 2003
Establishes joint venture with 3Com focusing on enterprise data networking solutions
Year 2002
International market sales reaches USD552 million
Year 2001
Divests non-core subsidiary Avansys to Emerson for USD750 million
Establishes four R&D centers in the United States
Joins International Telecommunications Union (ITU)
Year 2000
Establishes R&D center in Stockholm, Sweden
USD100 million generates from international markets
Year 1999
Establishes R&D centre in Bangalore, India, which achieves CMM level-4 accreditation in Year 2001 and CMM level-5 accreditation in Year 2003
Year 1997
Launches wireless GSM-based solutions
Expands into metropolitan areas of China in Year 1998
Year 1995
Generates sales of RMB1.5 billion in Year 1995, mainly derived from rural markets in China
Year 1992
Initiates R&D and launches rural digital switching solution
Year 1990
Embarks on independent research and commercialization of PBX technologies targeting hotels and small enterprises
Year 1987
Establishes in Shenzhen with as sales agent for Hong Kong company producing Private Branch Exchange (PBX) switches

Evo dao im 90 fore da se poprave ..u prevodu da instaliraju ono o chemu je Gnjec pisao a izbrish svoj bag..Sef H. veli da je to malo vremena i da ga boli kurac shto ameri misle ..kupijo svojoj obitelji Ajfone u EU..da dokaze kako se ne boji konkurencije.I kad sam ja negdje napisao da ameri zaostaju u nekim tehnologijama onaj idiot Marchelo ne vjeruje..shokiran je..Nadam se da ce dozivjeti josh par godina a onda ce bez imalo obraza tvrditi kako je on tvrdio da je to vec prije deset godina primijetio .;;))

Benon o Huawei_u.Kako je Gnjec vec razumio o chemu se radi..

The executive order is 10 times more important than walking away from the trade deal. It [Huawei] is a major national security threat, not just to the US but to the rest of the world. We are going to shut it down.

Gnječ wrote:

melkior wrote:Kinezi bi gradili 5G mrežu, a čitav softwer Huawei-a su im radili drugi, ispada da je njihov jedino hardwer

ponovo se registriram na ovaj šugavi ustaški forum baš zbog ove teme. gle, melkior nemam ništa protiv tebe osobno ali ti i svi ostali na ovoj temi i na prijašnjima koje su se bavile Huawei firmom pokazali ste nezavidnu ignoranciju, neznanje, iz druge galaksije se vidi da ste jebeni hrvati idioti. ali čak niste ni idioti vi ste nešto mnogo mnogo gore vi ste jebena greška prirode genetski otpad. vi ne uspijede zbrojiti dva plus dva a tu serete i FILOZOFIRATE o nečem o čemu POJMA NEMATE. POJMA! jebeni ste hrvatsli LUZERI kojima nije u životu ništa preostalo do patološke devijantne filozofije. nit ste u proizvodnji nit pojma o pojmu nemate o jebenom jebenom otporniku šugavom a kamo li o VLSI i SoC , HARDWAREU, os-U I SOFTWAREU. poooojma nemate. ali jebeno znate verglati filozofije svih patoloških vrsta. ja sam na jednom drugom podforumu napisao i iza toga stojim i na sudu ću to reći da je filozofija mentalna bolest. ma svuda i svima to govorim ne brigaju me reperkusije mahnitih hrvata zaraženih filozofijom.

dakle što ti, vi znate o HUAWEIU  osim vaših biased filozofiranja kako vam vaši gospodari ameri uvaljuju u vaše razjebane hrvatske lubenice koje vi zovete mozgom? što? što jebeno znate?

evo miha pseto koje je promijenilo gospodara sad se hvali kako mu sin rinta u NJEMAČKOJ!!!! pa daj se miha ubij pucaj si iz tvog jebenog pištolja u glavu jebem li ti majku hrvatsku koja te okotila. da ne nabrajam dalje glupog Yodu vlaja i ostale plutajuće krstarice pune govana.

melkior pročitaj ovo pa govori:



IZ HUAWEIJA su danas medijima poslali izjave osnivača i predsjednika uprave Huaweija Rena Zhengfeija povodom američkih gospodarskih i političkih restrikcija toj kompaniji.

Radi se, dakle, o izjavama koje je Zhengfei dao različitim svjetskim medijima. U nastavku ih prenosimo u obliku pitanja i odgovora.

e sad pročitaj kako je kinez pomeo pod sa američkim kaubojima. lijepo, vješto, mudro, odmjereno,  diplomatski čisto ko suza.

https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/osnivaca-huaweija-pitali-sto-ce-biti-s-mobitelima-u-europi-bit-ce-posljedica/2087722.aspx

gnječ nemoj mi psovati majku, bez zajebancije stvarno te mogu pronači u stvarnom životu, i zbog bezvezne gluposti ćeš požaliti a i prokleti dan kad si se rodio... ne bude ti pomoglo sve znanje o VLSI i SoC , HARDWAREU, os-U I SOFTWAREU... i čitaj s razumijevanjem , ako se već referiraš na moje upise... moj sin radi u hrvatskoj, drugi sin je stipendist jedne poveće hrvatske tvrtke, a treći... on je klinac kojem dobro ide kick-box, košarka i atletika.... sva trojica budu to što budu... bez nekog preuveličavanja i izmišljanja i laganja... još jednom da ti ne ispadne iz fokusa... nemoj mi psovati majku...

Petar Stošić

Evo koje je tvrtke zabranila Kina (prije nego što je Amerika zabranila Huawei)

U TRGOVINSKO-tehnološkom ratu između Kine i SAD-a koji je eskalirao uredbom Donalda Trumpa kojom zabranjuje američkim tvrtkama suradnju s kineskim Huaweijem, mnogi analitičari u medijima i komentatori na društvenim mrežama zauzimaju stranu Pekinga.

Prema ovom narativu, koji kineski režim i sam energično promiče, došlo je do nevjerojatnog paradoksa: komunistička Kina je postala ona koja štiti slobodno tržište i globalizaciju, dok ih SAD, na čelu s populistom Trumpom, ugrožava. No je li to baš tako?

Trump i njegova administracija već dulje optužuju Kinu da diskriminira strane, pogotovo američke kompanije koje žele poslovati u toj zemlji, krade im intelektualno vlasništvo konkurentskih tvrtki i manipulira svjetskim tržištima. A te su optužbe, što god mislili o Trumpovoj politici, daleko od neosnovanih.

Veliki kineski firewall

Kina je poznata po svojoj drakonskoj cenzuri interneta. Popis američkih internetskih stranica i aplikacija koje su blokirane takozvanim "Velikim kineskim firewallom" (Great Firewall of China) toliki je da ih je teško sve i nabrojati.

Na prvom mjestu je Google, najpopularnija svjetska web-tražilica čija je krovna tvrtka Alphabet nedavno najavila da neće pružati usluge kineskom Huaweiju i tako digla uzbunu među vlasnicima Huawei mobitela diljem svijeta. Prema stranici Greatfire.org koja prati kinesku cenzuru interneta, Gmail je u Kini kontinuirano blokiran najmanje od rujna 2014

Blokiran Google, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram...

...Dropbox, WhatsApp, Viber, Reddit, Twitch, New York Times

Osim ovih društvenih mreža i platformi, Kina blokira i niz američkih i drugih zapadnih medija. New York Times, Bloomberg, Time, Reuters, Economist, ABC News, Al Jazeera English i druge. Kinezi i strani posjetitelji u Kini u pravilu mogu zaobići ovu cenzuru preko inozemnih VPN-ova (virtualnih privatnih mreža), ali to ne mijenja činjenicu da se internet u Kini masovno cenzurira i da ta cenzura prvenstveno pogađa američke tvrtke. Osim toga, Kina se u posljednje vrijeme sve više obračunava s VPN-ovima kako bi održala cenzuru koja, prema objašnjenju komunističkog režima, štiti narod od "štetnih informacija".

Trump je odlučio uzvratiti udarac, kud puklo da puklo

Osim toga, američke zabrane gotovo sigurno neće stati s Huaweijem. Kako piše Washington Post, sljedeća meta koju Trumpova administracija razmatra je Hikvision Digital Technology, najveći svjetski proizvođač opreme za videonadzor, čiji glavni dioničar je kineski režim.

Hikvision i druge tvrtke povezane s uspostavom "bigbrotherovskog" sustava nadzora za Ujgure, muslimansku manjinu u kineskoj provinciji Ksindžiang, mogle bi biti pogođene nizom američkih sankcija. Procjenjuje se da je čak 3 milijuna Ujgura zatočeno u režimskim kampovima, izjavio je američki pomoćnik ministra unutarnjih poslova za Aziju Randall Schriver. Peking sve poriče i tvrdi da se radi o dobrovoljnim centrima za obuku.

Također, američko ministarstvo trgovine navodno priprema nove regulacije kojima će se ograničiti uvoz 14 kategorija napredne tehnologije u Kinu, uključujući kvantna računala, robotiku i umjetnu inteligenciju.

"Kina je vodila tehnološki rat protiv nas, ali dosad je američka vlada jedva uzvraćala", kaže David Hanke, partner u tvrtki Arent Fox i bivši zaposlenik u Senatskom obavještajnom odboru. Ova izjava možda i najprikladnije opisuje motivaciju Amerikanaca za ekonomski rat koji sad vodi protiv Kine i Huaweija kao njene najveće tehnološke uzdanice. Bilo to pametno ili ne, Trumpova administracija je, nakon desetljeća američkog i zapadnog popuštanja Kini, odlučila uzvratiti udarac.

https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/evo-koje-je-tvrtke-zabranila-kina-prije-nego-sto-je-amerika-zabranila-huawei/2087609.aspx

michaellcmacha wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

melkior wrote:Kinezi bi gradili 5G mrežu, a čitav softwer Huawei-a su im radili drugi, ispada da je njihov jedino hardwer

ponovo se registriram na ovaj šugavi ustaški forum baš zbog ove teme. gle, melkior nemam ništa protiv tebe osobno ali ti i svi ostali na ovoj temi i na prijašnjima koje su se bavile Huawei firmom pokazali ste nezavidnu ignoranciju, neznanje, iz druge galaksije se vidi da ste jebeni hrvati idioti. ali čak niste ni idioti vi ste nešto mnogo mnogo gore vi ste jebena greška prirode genetski otpad. vi ne uspijede zbrojiti dva plus dva a tu serete i FILOZOFIRATE o nečem o čemu POJMA NEMATE. POJMA! jebeni ste hrvatsli LUZERI kojima nije u životu ništa preostalo do patološke devijantne filozofije. nit ste u proizvodnji nit pojma o pojmu nemate o jebenom jebenom otporniku šugavom a kamo li o VLSI i SoC , HARDWAREU, os-U I SOFTWAREU. poooojma nemate. ali jebeno znate verglati filozofije svih patoloških vrsta. ja sam na jednom drugom podforumu napisao i iza toga stojim i na sudu ću to reći da je filozofija mentalna bolest. ma svuda i svima to govorim ne brigaju me reperkusije mahnitih hrvata zaraženih filozofijom.

dakle što ti, vi znate o HUAWEIU  osim vaših biased filozofiranja kako vam vaši gospodari ameri uvaljuju u vaše razjebane hrvatske lubenice koje vi zovete mozgom? što? što jebeno znate?

evo miha pseto koje je promijenilo gospodara sad se hvali kako mu sin rinta u NJEMAČKOJ!!!! pa daj se miha ubij pucaj si iz tvog jebenog pištolja u glavu jebem li ti majku hrvatsku koja te okotila. da ne nabrajam dalje glupog Yodu vlaja i ostale plutajuće krstarice pune govana.

melkior pročitaj ovo pa govori:



IZ HUAWEIJA su danas medijima poslali izjave osnivača i predsjednika uprave Huaweija Rena Zhengfeija povodom američkih gospodarskih i političkih restrikcija toj kompaniji.

Radi se, dakle, o izjavama koje je Zhengfei dao različitim svjetskim medijima. U nastavku ih prenosimo u obliku pitanja i odgovora.

e sad pročitaj kako je kinez pomeo pod sa američkim kaubojima. lijepo, vješto, mudro, odmjereno,  diplomatski čisto ko suza.

https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/osnivaca-huaweija-pitali-sto-ce-biti-s-mobitelima-u-europi-bit-ce-posljedica/2087722.aspx

gnječ nemoj mi psovati majku, bez zajebancije stvarno te mogu pronači u stvarnom životu, i zbog bezvezne gluposti ćeš požaliti a i prokleti dan kad si se rodio... ne bude ti pomoglo sve znanje o VLSI i SoC , HARDWAREU, os-U I SOFTWAREU... i čitaj s razumijevanjem , ako se već referiraš na moje upise... moj sin radi u hrvatskoj, drugi sin je stipendist jedne poveće hrvatske tvrtke, a treći... on je klinac kojem dobro ide kick-box, košarka i atletika.... sva trojica budu to što budu... bez nekog preuveličavanja i izmišljanja i laganja... još jednom da ti ne ispadne iz fokusa... nemoj mi psovati majku...

ajd ti lijepo prestani omalovažavati, provocirati, podjebavati, ponižavati ljude na ovom forumu koji ti nisu po tvojoj mjeri pa ćemo eventualno sklopiti neki kompromis. jer nemožeš ti druge maltretirati i na forumu raditi šta god te volja a drugi nesmije ništa tebi reći. neće to ići tako majstore i usput jebe mi se za tvoje prijetnje zapamti ne bojim se tebe ni niti ikoga ne brini znam se ja jako dobro braniti. tako da s tim prijetećim budalaštinama prekini jednom i počni se ponašati civilizirano i kulturno. ako možeš ali očito od tebe je to nemoguće očekivati.

tebi smeta psovanje majke? a drugima smeta nešto drugo što ti radiš i pišeš. dakle ako želiš da tebe drugi poštuju poštuj i ti druge. nasiljem nećeš dobiti poštovanje. zaboravi to.

Kina (Huawei) je lobirala da 5G bude u širem C-band frekvencijskom području, milimetarsko zračenje, mikrovalovi, tako da bi onda sa mrežom takvih antena mogli ometati rad satelita nad nekim područjem, komunikaciju, mogli bi ometati predviđanje vremenskih uvjeta, otežavati vremenskim satelitima praćenje oblaka, itd....

a čak bi se antenske mreže u tom frekvencijskom području mogle koristiti i za otkrivanje stealth aviona, pa bi pomoću telefonske 5G mreže kinezi mogli doći do informacija o radarskim karakteristikama F22, F35, B2...

pokajnik wrote:Kina (Huawei) je lobirala da 5G bude u širem C-band frekvencijskom području, milimetarsko zračenje, mikrovalovi, tako da bi onda sa mrežom takvih antena mogli ometati rad satelita nad nekim područjem, komunikaciju, mogli bi ometati predviđanje vremenskih uvjeta, otežavati vremenskim satelitima praćenje oblaka, itd....

a čak bi se antenske mreže u tom frekvencijskom području mogle koristiti i za otkrivanje stealth aviona, pa bi pomoću telefonske 5G mreže kinezi mogli doći do informacija o radarskim karakteristikama F22, F35, B2...

šta ti pričaš čovječe? jel imaš i malo znanja o radiofrekvencijama i kako i tko ih regulira????

United_States_Frequency_Allocations_Chart_2016_-_The_Radio_Spectrum:

veća rezolucija pohrani pa otvori:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/United_States_Frequency_Allocations_Chart_2016_-_The_Radio_Spectrum.pdf

manja rezolucija povećaj

Gnječ wrote:

pokajnik wrote:Kina (Huawei) je lobirala da 5G bude u širem C-band frekvencijskom području, milimetarsko zračenje, mikrovalovi, tako da bi onda sa mrežom takvih antena mogli ometati rad satelita nad nekim područjem, komunikaciju, mogli bi ometati predviđanje vremenskih uvjeta, otežavati vremenskim satelitima praćenje oblaka, itd....

a čak bi se antenske mreže u tom frekvencijskom području mogle koristiti i za otkrivanje stealth aviona, pa bi pomoću telefonske 5G mreže kinezi mogli doći do informacija o radarskim karakteristikama F22, F35, B2...

šta ti pričaš čovječe? jel imaš i malo znanja o radiofrekvencijama i kako i tko ih regulira????

za 5G, jer je nova mobilna tehnologija, su Kinezi htjeli postaviti standard u frekvencijskom područuju koje sad koriste sateliti i vojska

lobirali su preko telekomunikacijskih tvrtki koje bi koristile Huawei tehnologiju da se ta frekvencijska područja prepuste njima


Truump / vojska sad traži da se 5G radi na većim valnim duljinama

pokajnik wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

pokajnik wrote:Kina (Huawei) je lobirala da 5G bude u širem C-band frekvencijskom području, milimetarsko zračenje, mikrovalovi, tako da bi onda sa mrežom takvih antena mogli ometati rad satelita nad nekim područjem, komunikaciju, mogli bi ometati predviđanje vremenskih uvjeta, otežavati vremenskim satelitima praćenje oblaka, itd....

a čak bi se antenske mreže u tom frekvencijskom području mogle koristiti i za otkrivanje stealth aviona, pa bi pomoću telefonske 5G mreže kinezi mogli doći do informacija o radarskim karakteristikama F22, F35, B2...

šta ti pričaš čovječe? jel imaš i malo znanja o radiofrekvencijama i kako i tko ih regulira????

za 5G, jer je nova mobilna tehnologija, su Kinezi htjeli postaviti standard u frekvencijskom područuju koje sad koriste sateliti i vojska

lobirali su preko telekomunikacijskih tvrtki koje bi koristile Huawei tehnologiju da se ta frekvencijska područja prepuste njima


Truump / vojska sad traži da se 5G radi na većim valnim duljinama

rekoh, hrvati nažalost imaju bug u mozgu koji im blokira kompletni operativni sistem i sav mozgovni software. tu ne pomaže nikakav antivirus još nije izmišljen  antivirus software koji bi taj bug stavio u karantenu i popravio Windowse u glavama rvata a koji su momentalno još od stoljeća sedmog zatvoreni.

da probamo da capo onako da svi kojima elektronika nije struka pa i rvati puni bugova mogu razumijeti:

95GHZ FOR 5G. WOW!

The radio spectrum is quite broad from a few MHz up to hundreds of GHz but in practice the usable spectrum is constrained by two (main) factors:

The lower the frequency used the longer the antenna needed to capture the signal (remember the antennas of the old TV we had in the living room?) but also the better the propagation (the signal can cover a broader area and is less disturbed by external phenomena, like rain, foliage...).
The higher the frequency the smaller the size of the antenna, so you can stuck it into small things, but the less effective the propagation. Rain drops can stop the signal and you can only manage coverage of small areas (down to few metres if you go really up in frequency).
In addition the higher the frequency the faster the chip processing the radio signal should be. Thanks to the amazing progress of electronics (courtesy of Moore's law) we have chips that can process higher and higher frequencies and we have seen wireless systems moving from around 800MHz in the first generation to over 2.5GHz in the fourth generation (and even higher with WIMAX).

Now with 5G the capability to move further up, from the processing point of view, is there. And indeed, although there is not a standard yet, there are talks on using double digits GHz, even though massive penetration of 5G requires frequencies below 6GHz.  
So far the highest frequencies being discussed were 81-86GHz by China and US. Now, the FCC Chairman in a recent talk proposed to free the spectrum above 95GHz for 5G letting the industry come up with proposals on how to use it.

Clearly, at these frequencies you cannot imagine to cover a city, the propagation range is just no there. However, one could use these frequencies to provide very high bandwidth in very small areas. An example? A car may have a halo made of 95+GHz. Such a communication bubble can support bandwidth in the order of several GBps, enough to download a movie as it coast by a toll boot. Or, several cars in close proximity (which is not unusual in our cities) can exchange plenty of date with one another.
These examples are just from the top of my head, and may be they do make any sense. I am using them just to give and idea of possible applications. Actually, in his speech the Chair of FCC explicitly said that he does not know what industry could do with that spectrum but since no one is using it why not opening it up and let researchers and industry find useful applications?

If you think about it this way of reasoning is quite a change from the past, when regulators where imposing strict barriers on the use of spectrum enforcing the specific services that could be delivered (e.g. for television broadcast and not for telecommunications). With 5G the possibility of having the terminals deciding on what spectrum to use and adopting a dynamical allocation of spectrum we are in for a revolution.

During a speech at Carnegie Mellon University, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai said he would move on opening up spectrum above 95 GHz as a test bed for 5G technology.
Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai is looking for the government agency to maintain “5G” spectrum support initiatives began by his predecessor, including the possibility of opening up access to new airwaves in bands above 95 GHz.

During a speech this week at Carnegie Mellon University’s Software Engineering Institute in Pittsburgh, Pai said the FCC is looking at allowing applications for experimentation using spectrum above the 95 GHz band to operate under Section 7 of the Telecommunications Act, which calls for the commission to act within one year on those applications deemed in the public interest.

“Those frequencies haven’t traditionally been used for mobile wireless technologies,” Pai noted in his speech. “But I believe that instead of having regulators decide which frequencies are useful, we should put spectrum out there as a test bed and leave it to the innovators to figure out how to use it. … And this determination, in turn, could accelerate the deployment of cutting-edge wireless services and other innovations.”

Pai said he was putting the FCC’s Office of Engineering and Technology in charge of compliance with Section 7 regulations.

“Going forward, if a petition or application is filed with the FCC proposing a new technology or service, we’ll supply an answer within a year,” Pai said. “To be clear, our answer won’t necessarily be yes. There could be many reasons why a new technology or service wouldn’t be in the public interest, like interference with an existing service. But we will provide an answer with dispatch. Also, it’s important to note that a Section 7 petitioner must actually propose a new technology or service. OET will make an independent assessment of this. And if the technology or service isn’t new, it won’t qualify for speedier treatment.”

Pai cited the FCC’s previous work under the Spectrum Frontiers initiative, which was approved last year under the leadership of Tom Wheeler. The initiative called for the government to open up nearly 11 gigahertz of spectrum above the 24 GHz band in support of mobile telecom services, with specific resources to include 3.85 gigahertz for licensed use in the 28 GHz, 37 GHz and 39 GHz bands, and seven gigahertz for unlicensed use across the 64 GHz to 71 GHz bands.

As part of those proceedings, the FCC also asked for comments on the potential use of spectrum above the 95 GHz band in support of planned 5G deployments.

Pai also noted FCC support for telecommunication operators to begin 5G technology trials using some of the bands included in the Spectrum Frontiers proceedings, which operators have already begun to undertake.

“The United States must continue to lead the world in wireless innovation,” Pai explained. “We led the way in the deployment of 4G LTE and we must do the same in 5G. With 5G, we can use millimeter wave spectrum to produce multigigabit speeds. 5G could transform the wireless world and provide even more robust competition to wired networks.”

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20170316/policy/fcc-chairman-pai-champions-spectrum-above-95-ghz-for-5g-support-tag2

Svaka ti je ki u Njegoša.

Gnječ wrote:

pokajnik wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

pokajnik wrote:Kina (Huawei) je lobirala da 5G bude u širem C-band frekvencijskom području, milimetarsko zračenje, mikrovalovi, tako da bi onda sa mrežom takvih antena mogli ometati rad satelita nad nekim područjem, komunikaciju, mogli bi ometati predviđanje vremenskih uvjeta, otežavati vremenskim satelitima praćenje oblaka, itd....

a čak bi se antenske mreže u tom frekvencijskom području mogle koristiti i za otkrivanje stealth aviona, pa bi pomoću telefonske 5G mreže kinezi mogli doći do informacija o radarskim karakteristikama F22, F35, B2...

šta ti pričaš čovječe? jel imaš i malo znanja o radiofrekvencijama i kako i tko ih regulira????

za 5G, jer je nova mobilna tehnologija, su Kinezi htjeli postaviti standard u frekvencijskom područuju koje sad koriste sateliti i vojska

lobirali su preko telekomunikacijskih tvrtki koje bi koristile Huawei tehnologiju da se ta frekvencijska područja prepuste njima


Truump / vojska sad traži da se 5G radi na većim valnim duljinama

rekoh, hrvati nažalost imaju bug u mozgu koji im blokira kompletni operativni sistem i sav mozgovni software. tu ne pomaže nikakav antivirus još nije izmišljen  antivirus software koji bi taj bug stavio u karantenu i popravio Windowse u glavama rvata a koji su momentalno još od stoljeća sedmog zatvoreni.

da probamo da capo onako da svi kojima elektronika nije struka pa i rvati puni bugova mogu razumijeti:

95GHZ FOR 5G. WOW!

L band - designation for the range of frequencies in the radio spectrum from 1 to 2 gigahertz (GHz)

Mobile phones operate at 800–900 and 1700–2100 MHz. Iridium Communications satellite phones use frequencies between 1616 and 1626.5 MHz[2] to communicate with the satellites. Inmarsat and LightSquared terminals use frequencies between 1525 and 1646.5 MHz. Thuraya satellite phones use frequencies between 1525 and 1661 MHz.

The C band is a designation - portion of the electromagnetic spectrum in the microwave range of frequencies ranging from 4.0 to 8.0 gigahertz (GHz);[1] however, this definition is the one used by radar manufacturers

The C band (4 to 8 GHz) is used for many satellite communications transmissions, ... as well as some surveillance and weather radar systems.

X band - approximately 7.0–11.2 GHz - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_band
Ku band - frequencies from 12 to 18 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band
K band - frequencies from 18 to 27 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_band_(IEEE)
Ka band - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_band

The JSF's stealth design is optimised by shaping for the X-band and Ku/K/Ka-bands, which fits the most likely threats US operated JSFs will encounter - highly mobile battlefield air defence weapons and fighter air intercept radars. The serrated nozzle and inlet design reflect this 'narrowband' optimisation - with increasing radar wavelength both will progressively lose effectiveness. The inlet tunnels use S-bending and absorbent materials, while the tailpipe is claimed to use a blocking structure, both most effective in the X-band. The planform and edge alignment is much less disciplined than that in the F-22A or YF-23A, again less critical for an X-band threat confined mostly to the fore/aft sectors.

US Air Force thinking is that the JSF is used to demolish battlefield ground targets once the F-22As have broken the back of the IADS and opposing fighter force - in effect the long range S-band, L-band, UHF and VHF radars have been killed off by F-22As, as have the opposing L-band or S-band AEW&C systems. In this environment the greatest risk is presented by opposing fighters hunting with minimal or no GCI support, and mobile AAA and SAM systems like the Roland, Crotale, Rapier, 2K12/9M9 (SA-6), 9K33 (SA-8), 9M37M (SA-11), Tor M1 (SA-15) and ZSU-23-4P. Such SAM/AAA systems typically use the C, X and Ku bands for their search and engagement radars, and X or Ku bands for missile guidance. For such 'shoot and scoot' high mobility short range surface threats and fighter threats the JSF's stealth optimisation will likely work very nicely.

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-JSF-Analysis.html

znači kad bi Kinezi imali mreže antena u tom frekvencijskom području na američkom tlu, onda bi mogli naći način kako da otkriju nevidljive lovce, bombardere, a s tim informacijama bi onda mogli prilagoditi svoje vojne radarske sustave

Gnječ wrote:
Pai cited the FCC’s previous work under the Spectrum Frontiers initiative, which was approved last year under the leadership of Tom Wheeler. The initiative called for the government to open up nearly 11 gigahertz of spectrum above the 24 GHz band in support of mobile telecom services, with specific resources to include 3.85 gigahertz for licensed use in the 28 GHz, 37 GHz and 39 GHz bands, and seven gigahertz for unlicensed use across the 64 GHz to 71 GHz bands.

As part of those proceedings, the FCC also asked for comments on the potential use of spectrum above the 95 GHz band in support of planned 5G deployments.

Pai also noted FCC support for telecommunication operators to begin 5G technology trials using some of the bands included in the Spectrum Frontiers proceedings, which operators have already begun to undertake.

“The United States must continue to lead the world in wireless innovation,” Pai explained. “We led the way in the deployment of 4G LTE and we must do the same in 5G. With 5G, we can use millimeter wave spectrum to produce multigigabit speeds. 5G could transform the wireless world and provide even more robust competition to wired networks.”

C band - frequencies ranging from 4.0 to 8.0 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_band_(IEEE)
X band - approximately 7.0–11.2 GHz - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_band
Ku band - frequencies from 12 to 18 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band
K band - frequencies from 18 to 27 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_band_(IEEE)
Ka band - frequencies in the range 26.5–40 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_band

The JSF's stealth design is optimised by shaping for the X-band and Ku/K/Ka-bands, which fits the most likely threats US operated JSFs will encounter - highly mobile battlefield air defence weapons and fighter air intercept radars. The serrated nozzle and inlet design reflect this 'narrowband' optimisation - with increasing radar wavelength both will progressively lose effectiveness. The inlet tunnels use S-bending and absorbent materials, while the tailpipe is claimed to use a blocking structure, both most effective in the X-band. The planform and edge alignment is much less disciplined than that in the F-22A or YF-23A, again less critical for an X-band threat confined mostly to the fore/aft sectors.

US Air Force thinking is that the JSF is used to demolish battlefield ground targets once the F-22As have broken the back of the IADS and opposing fighter force - in effect the long range S-band, L-band, UHF and VHF radars have been killed off by F-22As, as have the opposing L-band or S-band AEW&C systems. In this environment the greatest risk is presented by opposing fighters hunting with minimal or no GCI support, and mobile AAA and SAM systems like the Roland, Crotale, Rapier, 2K12/9M9 (SA-6), 9K33 (SA-8), 9M37M (SA-11), Tor M1 (SA-15) and ZSU-23-4P. Such SAM/AAA systems typically use the C, X and Ku bands for their search and engagement radars, and X or Ku bands for missile guidance. For such 'shoot and scoot' high mobility short range surface threats and fighter threats the JSF's stealth optimisation will likely work very nicely.

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-JSF-Analysis.html

Kinezi su kapitalisti, trebaju im te radarske frekvencije za navođenje raketa u kapitalističke svrhe na Američkom/Eu tlu, nemaju skrivene militarističke namjere

amerikanci su slabi, kukavice, zato se boje prepustiti ta frekvencijska područja Huavei-u

Yehudim wrote:Svaka ti je ki u Njegoša.

objašnjavam ovim rvatinama o čemu se radi da je to ustvari rat USA Deep State vs. World. USA Deep State želi imati totalnu kontrolu i monopol nad cijelim čovječanstvom ovim putem preko 5G mreže i implementacije IoT . o tome se radi a ne o nekoj tobože kineskoj uroti i špijunaži. ni pingvini ne puše takve laži osim rvata.

da citiram onog lika iz Matrix-a koji proročanski opisuje ovo što se danas događa:

You take the blue pill—the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes. Remember: all I'm offering is the truth. Nothing more.

there is a choice:

choice: an act of choosing between two or more possibilities

pokajnik wrote:

Gnječ wrote:
Pai cited the FCC’s previous work under the Spectrum Frontiers initiative, which was approved last year under the leadership of Tom Wheeler. The initiative called for the government to open up nearly 11 gigahertz of spectrum above the 24 GHz band in support of mobile telecom services, with specific resources to include 3.85 gigahertz for licensed use in the 28 GHz, 37 GHz and 39 GHz bands, and seven gigahertz for unlicensed use across the 64 GHz to 71 GHz bands.

As part of those proceedings, the FCC also asked for comments on the potential use of spectrum above the 95 GHz band in support of planned 5G deployments.

Pai also noted FCC support for telecommunication operators to begin 5G technology trials using some of the bands included in the Spectrum Frontiers proceedings, which operators have already begun to undertake.

“The United States must continue to lead the world in wireless innovation,” Pai explained. “We led the way in the deployment of 4G LTE and we must do the same in 5G. With 5G, we can use millimeter wave spectrum to produce multigigabit speeds. 5G could transform the wireless world and provide even more robust competition to wired networks.”

C band - frequencies ranging from 4.0 to 8.0 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_band_(IEEE)
X band - approximately 7.0–11.2 GHz - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_band
Ku band - frequencies from 12 to 18 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_band
K band - frequencies from 18 to 27 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_band_(IEEE)
Ka band - frequencies in the range 26.5–40 gigahertz (GHz) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_band

The JSF's stealth design is optimised by shaping for the X-band and Ku/K/Ka-bands, which fits the most likely threats US operated JSFs will encounter - highly mobile battlefield air defence weapons and fighter air intercept radars. The serrated nozzle and inlet design reflect this 'narrowband' optimisation - with increasing radar wavelength both will progressively lose effectiveness. The inlet tunnels use S-bending and absorbent materials, while the tailpipe is claimed to use a blocking structure, both most effective in the X-band. The planform and edge alignment is much less disciplined than that in the F-22A or YF-23A, again less critical for an X-band threat confined mostly to the fore/aft sectors.

US Air Force thinking is that the JSF is used to demolish battlefield ground targets once the F-22As have broken the back of the IADS and opposing fighter force - in effect the long range S-band, L-band, UHF and VHF radars have been killed off by F-22As, as have the opposing L-band or S-band AEW&C systems. In this environment the greatest risk is presented by opposing fighters hunting with minimal or no GCI support, and mobile AAA and SAM systems like the Roland, Crotale, Rapier, 2K12/9M9 (SA-6), 9K33 (SA-8), 9M37M (SA-11), Tor M1 (SA-15) and ZSU-23-4P. Such SAM/AAA systems typically use the C, X and Ku bands for their search and engagement radars, and X or Ku bands for missile guidance. For such 'shoot and scoot' high mobility short range surface threats and fighter threats the JSF's stealth optimisation will likely work very nicely.

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-JSF-Analysis.html

Kinezi su kapitalisti, trebaju im te radarske frekvencije za navođenje raketa u kapitalističke svrhe na Američkom/Eu tlu, nemaju skrivene militarističke namjere

amerikanci su slabi, kukavice, zato se boje prepustiti ta frekvencijska područja Huavei-u

čekaj, ja ti začavlam link američke agencije za telekomunikacije FCC koja je odobrila te frekvencije za 5G mrežu i ti kreneš pričom o nekim radarima i nevidljivim avionima??? pa valjda neće američka FCC pucat sebi u koljeno? jebote led nemože ti nitko dati na korištenje spektar frekvencija koje koristi vojska. alo Alan Ford se čujemo?

FCC: Federal Communications Commission | The United States of America

ali promaklo ti je nešto drugo (vidiš evo ti dokaza da je u svakoj državi Google cenzuriran a ne samo u Kini) što misliš u kojoj sam ja sad državi? nisam u RH-NDH. Google.hr je cenzuriran!

ovo ti je promaklo:

5G Network Uses Nearly Same Frequency as Weaponized Crowd Control Systems



Today’s cellular and Wi-Fi networks rely on microwaves – a type of electromagnetic radiation utilizing frequencies up to 6 gigahertz (GHz) in order to wirelessly transmit voice and data. This era of wireless frequency is almost over making room for new 5 G applications will require using new spectrum bands in much higher frequency ranges above 6 GHz to 100 GHz and beyond, utilizing submillimeter and millimeter waves.

Millimeter waves are utilized by the U.S. Army in crowd dispersal guns called Active Denial Systems. Dr. Paul Ben-Ishai pointed to research that was commissioned by the U.S. Army to find out why people ran away when the beam touched them. “If you are unlucky enough to be standing there when it hits you, you will feel like your body is on fire.” The U.S. Department of Defense explains how: “The sensation dissipates when the target moves out of the beam. The sensation is intense enough to cause a nearly instantaneous reflex action of the target to flee the beam.”

It uses radio frequency millimeter waves in the 96GHz range to penetrate the top 1/64 of an inch layer of skin on the targeted individual, instantly producing an intolerable heating sensation that causes them to flee.

A lot of respected people have posted warnings about the mass deployment of commercial millimeter-wave technology.

Non-Lethal Weapons Program
U.S. Department of Defense


Active Denial System FAQs

https://jnlwp.defense.gov/About/Frequently-Asked-Questions/Active-Denial-System-FAQs/

ameri samo sebi rade štetu već su si propucali oba koljena

shoot oneself in the foot:

to cause oneself difficulty; to be the author of one's own misfortune.

To damage or impede one's own plans, progress, or actions through foolish actions or words.

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NOAA warns of threat to weather forecasts from 5G spectrum

The agency’s administrator testified to Congress that the harm to weather models could set forecasters back decades.

The Advanced Technology Microwave Sounder on NASA’s Suomi NPP satellite captured these measurements of atmospheric water vapor in November 2011. Red indicates higher temperatures, blue lower. Credit: NASA/NOAA



The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration remains at an impasse with the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) over how to protect weather satellite observations from interference by 5G telecommunications equipment.

At a hearing by the House Science Committee’s Subcommittee on Environment on 16 May, acting NOAA administrator Neil Jacobs warned that US weather forecasting capabilities could be severely degraded if the FCC proceeds with its plans for green-lighting transmissions within a 24 GHz spectrum band that it recently auctioned to telecommunications companies. He said NOAA and NASA have concluded that the out-of-band emissions limits set by the FCC are insufficient to prevent interference with weather satellites’ ability to detect water vapor. He reported that the FCC has taken issue with the input parameters NOAA and NASA used when modeling the interference effects.

Meanwhile, the FCC is facing pressure from Congress to address the concerns raised by NOAA, NASA, and other parts of the scientific community. Leaders of several committees have urged the FCC to reconsider its approach to opening up the 24 GHz band, which includes frequencies as low as 24.25 GHz. Weather satellites detect 23.8 GHz emissions from water vapor in the atmosphere.

Jacobs explained that subject-matter experts from NOAA, NASA, and the FCC have been studying the issue since 2017 but have yet to reach agreement on appropriate limits on out-of-band emissions—signals that spill over from a particular frequency bandwidth but nonetheless contribute to the quality of the transmission.

Jacobs said that NOAA and NASA have concluded that the limit advanced by the FCC, –20 decibel watts per 200 MHz, would result in about 77% data loss from passive microwave sounders that weather satellites use to detect water vapor. Those data are essential input parameters for weather models. “This would degrade the forecast skill by up to 30%,” Jacobs said. “If you look back in time to see when our forecast skill was roughly 30% less than it is today, it’s somewhere around 1980. This would result in the reduction of hurricane track forecasts’ lead time by roughly two to three days.”

Jacobs referenced a 2014 study in which researchers with the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) investigated the effects of withholding microwave sounder data from the forecast modeling of Superstorm Sandy. In 2012, after taking an unusual westward turn in the North Atlantic, the storm devastated the US East Coast. Without the microwave measurements, the ECMWF model, which is considered the most accurate in the world and correctly predicted Sandy’s shift, kept the storm out to sea.

If a data loss of 2% or more were projected, Jacobs said it is “highly likely” that NOAA would halt its current multibillion-dollar acquisition program for next-generation polar-orbiting satellites because they could no longer meet mission requirements. He said NOAA and NASA believe a limit near –50 dbW would “result in roughly zero data loss.” Because the decibel scale is logarithmic and more stringent with increasingly negative numbers, that limit would permit roughly a thousandth the noise of the FCC level.

After undertaking a multiyear public rulemaking process, the FCC auctioned the 24 GHz spectrum band in March over the objections of NOAA and NASA; the commission received nearly $2 billion in bids.

Just before the auction, the leaders of the House Science Committee and the chairs of three appropriations subcommittees called on the FCC to delay the auction due to the agencies’ concerns about effects on Earth observation satellites. In a letter justifying his decision to auction the spectrum, FCC chairman Ajit Pai wrote that the “Commission’s decisions with respect to spectrum have been and will continue to be based on sound engineering rather than exaggerated and unverified last-minute assertions.”

Congressional leaders are continuing to press the FCC on the subject. A letter sent earlier this month by Sens. Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Maria Cantwell (D-WA), the ranking members of the Senate Finance and Commerce committees, urges the commission not to award final licenses to the auction winners unless they adopt an emission limit that NOAA and NASA agree to. They also cite an internal Navy report that raises concerns about the effects of spectrum interference on naval operations and proposes a –57 dbW emissions limit.

In the letter, Wyden and Cantwell ask the FCC to describe its cost–benefit analyses of the spectrum interference effects on activities that rely on weather data. They also request that the commission outline steps it will take if its emissions limit is not accepted by the International Telecommunication Union, which is meeting this fall to consider changes to international standards for spectrum use.

“Leadership in 5G networks and devices is undoubtedly critical to our economic and national security. However, it does not enhance America’s place in this global race for 5G leadership to advocate for standards that do not pass scientific scrutiny in international forums,” the senators conclude.

https://physicstoday.scitation.org/do/10.1063/PT.6.2.20190524a/full/

MORH - Ministar Krstičević na međunarodnom forumu u Kini

Potpredsjednik Vlade i ministar obrane Republike Hrvatske Damir Krstičević sudjelovat će u Pekingu u Narodnoj Republici Kini na Drugom Forumu za međunarodnu suradnju Pojas i put (Second Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation), koji se održava od 25. do 27. travnja 2019. godine.

Na međunarodnom forumu ministar Krstičević bit će izaslanik predsjednika Vlade Andreja Plenkovića i predstavljat će Republiku Hrvatsku u Kini.

Sudjelovanje potpredsjednika Vlade Republike Hrvatske na forumu u Pekingu još je jedna potvrda izgradnje strateške suradnje Hrvatske i Kine

https://www.morh.hr/hr/vijesti-najave-i-priopcenja/najave/19240-ministar-krsticevic-na-medjunarodnom-forumu-u-kini.html

Petar Stošić okrenuo ploču i prešao na Trumpoovu stranu

mutavi Krstičević ide po mito kod Kineza, nakon što mu korupcijska afera s Izraelom nije uspjela

michaellcmacha wrote:

pismejker wrote:

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AssadNaPodmornici wrote:

michaellcmacha wrote:
jesi ti u nekoj fazi blebanja gluposti ili se povodiš... jesi li ti upratio kolike su inozemne devizne doznake u zadnjih 6 godina, one evidentirane i knjižene i plus na to dodaj 120% onih koje su donešene u džepu...

devizne doznake su jedno, iseljavanje je drugo. 
prema postu od forumaša "pokajnik" izgleda da ne možeš poslati deviznu doznaku iz Kine u RH

moj sin je tak napunio 19-tu i već ima 2 godine staža radeći na teškim gražeinskim strojevima za relativno malu plaću skupljajući radno iskustvo s kojim će za godinu dana bez problema aplicirati za 10 puta bolje plaćen isti taj posao u okolici stuttgarta ili ulma ili frankfurta.

Milo Moje Miha..sin ima da ti svako jutro,pisajuci krv,jebe sve po spisku,od prvog dana radeci na bajusteli,a tako bude i zadnjeg dana..Mozda,nakon 20-30 godina,se uzdigne na nivo predradnika,a o lovusi koja ce biti 10 puta veca,ce i nadalje sanjati..
Nece ti svabo u ruke dati stroj koji vrijedi stotine tisca ojra do milijune,na "skupljeno radno iskustvo..i za zdrkani viličar moras imati Šule,po mogucnosti svapsku..polaganje i papiri recimo za bus,kostaju 10 000 ojrova..sad zamisli polaganje za recimo stroj za asfaltiranje....baja moja neuki,ovdje u svabiji se ZNANJE PLACA...a ono steceno kroz iskustvo.,zaboravi...i Weberu su od ETF-a priznali samo jednu godinu,a taj nivo posla i love i dobija..

Po svemu,bit ce da ce ti sin ovo pjevati vrlo cesto..

daj ne seri i nee lupetaj bez veze jer u osnovi nemaš blage veze... sin mi je školovani strojar izučen i praktično obučen u jednoj od ponajbolje opremljenih tvrtki sa širokim spektrom radnih strojeva. u protekle dvije godine ovladao je sa i dogurao da radi na 5 različitih strojeva potpuno samostalno, s tim da ako ima tko tu da zna što je kaiser bager pauk, navedeni stroj je apsolvirao za nepunih 4 mjeseca iako je to iznimno kompliciran stroj i predviđen za vrlo zahtjevne poslove... svi njegovi radni zadaci na pojedinim strojevima su video dokumentirani, za svaki stroj tvrtka u kojoj je zaposlen mu izdaje certifikat o osposobljenosti za samostalni rad na istom i sad evo večeras sam preko prijateljske posredničke veze proslijedio kompletnu njegovu dokumentaciju s kojom će aplicirati za posao u svojoj struci... evo svetozare molim te lijepo onako ljudski ne seri i ne trpaj se gdje ti nije mjesto i o čemu nemaš pojma... i u konačnici nitko nije spominjao nikakvo predradništvo nego rad samostalnog strojara na određenim građevinskim strojevima... ajde da se levi javio pa da nešto pametno, iskustveno i konstruktivno kaže po tom pitanju ok ali ti daj nemoj pa jebote em nemaš veze s vezom, em si dilajla malo žešća. neću ni spominjat tvoje komplekse, patologiju laganja i izmišljanja i još koješta izvan svake pameti...

Gle,kako i svakoj drugoj Mlađi,na ovom svijetu,tako i tvojoj zelim da uspiju sto bolje u zivotu..i to je to..
CINJENICe koje ti govorim u PRAKSI,u SVABIJI,su ono sto rula..BEZ PAPIRA ne mos aplicirati na bilo koji bolji posel...

NEKADA se moglo progurati PRAKSOM i vJESTINOM,ali opet na onim nivojima,GDJE SVABI NE APLICIRAJU,.odnosno gdje ne zele raditi,nebitan sad razlog..

DANAS,ak osi recimo strujic,strojar,ma bilo sto(recimo u pitanju je srednja skola),ako je u pitanju STRANA diploma,sVABI ce je tretirati manjkavom,cisto iz razloga,jerbo su oni tu dalje ,nego bilo koje druge drzave u Europi,otisle..
ako se vec uhvatio sTROJEVA,e pa danas ti prosjecni sTROJAR mora baratati doslovno sa prijenosnim terminalima,,biti vje4st u CNC programiranju i jos sto cuda..zadnji put kad mi je dimnjacar bio,nosao je neki kurat ,sto je hibrid izmedju laptopa i neznamcegavec,..ugl.kad je kontrolirao plinski bojler,razvukao je hrpu te opreme da izmjeri ocita

sTROJEVI na gradilistu,ista stvar..novi pristupi gradjenju,nove tehnologije,traze i novo znanje,a svabi su tu azurni,doli,ne znam bas..
Kakogod..odvadi malo..ima i previse Svaba,a i svabica,koji ne mogu se domoci takvog polozaja upravljanja,pa na kraju rade nesh drugo..
ONO STO CE PRVO TRAZITI,je SKOLA ZA DATE MASHINE..ako je u pecatu RH.ocekuj u mnajboljem slucaju,neku jednostavnu mashinu,a i placa ce biti gurnuta na taj nivo..
ako se ima svapska skola,e to je vec drugi par rukava..