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Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by Kermit 18/10/2015, 20:16
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/18/us-europe-migrants-germany-turkey-idUSKCN0SC08B20151018
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Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by Kermit 18/10/2015, 20:16
German Chancellor Angela Merkel offered Turkey the prospect of support for faster progress on its bid to join the European Union on Sunday in return for cooperation in stemming the flow of migrants and taking back those rejected by Europe.
Speaking in Istanbul at a joint news conference with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, Merkel said Germany could help accelerate the path to visa-free travel to the EU for Turks and push forward Ankara's protracted EU membership talks.
In return, she expected Turkey to agree more quickly to take in migrants sent back by the EU, so-called "readmission agreements" that Davutoglu has said he will sign up to only if there is progress on liberalizing the visa regime for Turks.
"I think we have used the crisis we are experiencing, through a very disorderly and uncontrolled movement of refugees, to again achieve closer cooperation on many issues, both between the European Union and Turkey, and between Germany and Turkey," Merkel said after meeting the Turkish premier.
Merkel, who only 10 days ago reiterated her opposition to Turkey joining the EU, said the talks were "very promising". Faster Turkish accession may be hard for some in her conservative party, long opposed to Turkish membership, to swallow.
Dubbed a "punch-bag" for her own party by some German media due to frustrations over the refugee crisis, Merkel wants to cement a European deal with Turkey on aid and closer ties in return for help in encouraging refugees there to stay put.
She has resisted pressure to tighten Germany's border controls and turn away refugees arriving from Austria, even as Germany expects 800,000 to 1 million new arrivals this year.
Both the Turkish and German leaders said they had agreed there could be no lasting solution to the migration crisis without resolving the conflict in Syria, from where more than 2 million refugees have now fled to Turkey.
A "safe zone" in northern Syria, a proposal long championed by Turkey but which has gained little international traction, is badly needed, Davutoglu said.
"Our priority is to prevent illegal immigration and reduce the number of people crossing our borders. In that respect we have had very fruitful discussions with the EU recently," he said.
But Davutoglu said while progress had been made on an EU offer to Turkey last week of an action plan including "re-energized" talks on joining the bloc, several issues remained to be resolved.
"Firstly, the sharing of the refugee burden should be fair. The amount of aid ... is secondary. What is more important is the common will to tackle this issue. Turkey has been left alone in recent years," he said.
Visa-free travel for Turks should be brought forward to July 2016 instead of the current planned 2017 in exchange for Turkey signing up to the readmission agreement, he said. He also said Turkey should have a seat at EU summits.
"Germany is ready to offer support," Merkel said. "If we take the question of visa liberalization, we can talk in the German-Turkish working group ... about specific possibilities to push through visa facilitation."
MUTUAL BENEFITS
Just two months ago, Merkel was practically able to dictate terms to Greece over an aid plan to tackle its debt crisis. Over neighboring Turkey she has far less leverage.
President Tayyip Erdogan, whom Merkel also met, said he had asked her - as well as France, Britain and Spain - for support on accelerating Turkey's EU membership bid.
Erdogan discussed with Merkel the opening of five so-called chapters of the accession process, concerning harmonizing rules on energy, economic policy, fundamental rights, justice and security policy.
Merkel said Germany was ready to open the chapter on economic and monetary policy this year, and make preparations for opening the chapters on rights and justice.
Erdogan and his ruling AK Party, which faces a general election on Nov. 1, have an interest in avoiding any suggestion of a sellout to help ungrateful Europeans. He has used the opportunity to grandstand, on Friday accusing the EU of insincerity in talks on Turkish membership.
In truth, both Erdogan and Merkel know there is no near-term prospect of Turkey joining the EU. But both can still gain something from Sunday's meeting.
For Merkel, nailing down Turkey's commitment to the action plan is important to stemming the refugee flow and relieving the political pressure on her at home.
For Erdogan and the AKP, winning the promise of an accelerated path to visa-free travel to the EU for Turks could be an election boon.
(Additional reporting by Asli Kandemir in Istanbul, Editing by Angus MacSwan and Raissa Kasolowsky)
Speaking in Istanbul at a joint news conference with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, Merkel said Germany could help accelerate the path to visa-free travel to the EU for Turks and push forward Ankara's protracted EU membership talks.
In return, she expected Turkey to agree more quickly to take in migrants sent back by the EU, so-called "readmission agreements" that Davutoglu has said he will sign up to only if there is progress on liberalizing the visa regime for Turks.
"I think we have used the crisis we are experiencing, through a very disorderly and uncontrolled movement of refugees, to again achieve closer cooperation on many issues, both between the European Union and Turkey, and between Germany and Turkey," Merkel said after meeting the Turkish premier.
Merkel, who only 10 days ago reiterated her opposition to Turkey joining the EU, said the talks were "very promising". Faster Turkish accession may be hard for some in her conservative party, long opposed to Turkish membership, to swallow.
Dubbed a "punch-bag" for her own party by some German media due to frustrations over the refugee crisis, Merkel wants to cement a European deal with Turkey on aid and closer ties in return for help in encouraging refugees there to stay put.
She has resisted pressure to tighten Germany's border controls and turn away refugees arriving from Austria, even as Germany expects 800,000 to 1 million new arrivals this year.
Both the Turkish and German leaders said they had agreed there could be no lasting solution to the migration crisis without resolving the conflict in Syria, from where more than 2 million refugees have now fled to Turkey.
A "safe zone" in northern Syria, a proposal long championed by Turkey but which has gained little international traction, is badly needed, Davutoglu said.
"Our priority is to prevent illegal immigration and reduce the number of people crossing our borders. In that respect we have had very fruitful discussions with the EU recently," he said.
But Davutoglu said while progress had been made on an EU offer to Turkey last week of an action plan including "re-energized" talks on joining the bloc, several issues remained to be resolved.
"Firstly, the sharing of the refugee burden should be fair. The amount of aid ... is secondary. What is more important is the common will to tackle this issue. Turkey has been left alone in recent years," he said.
Visa-free travel for Turks should be brought forward to July 2016 instead of the current planned 2017 in exchange for Turkey signing up to the readmission agreement, he said. He also said Turkey should have a seat at EU summits.
"Germany is ready to offer support," Merkel said. "If we take the question of visa liberalization, we can talk in the German-Turkish working group ... about specific possibilities to push through visa facilitation."
MUTUAL BENEFITS
Just two months ago, Merkel was practically able to dictate terms to Greece over an aid plan to tackle its debt crisis. Over neighboring Turkey she has far less leverage.
President Tayyip Erdogan, whom Merkel also met, said he had asked her - as well as France, Britain and Spain - for support on accelerating Turkey's EU membership bid.
Erdogan discussed with Merkel the opening of five so-called chapters of the accession process, concerning harmonizing rules on energy, economic policy, fundamental rights, justice and security policy.
Merkel said Germany was ready to open the chapter on economic and monetary policy this year, and make preparations for opening the chapters on rights and justice.
Erdogan and his ruling AK Party, which faces a general election on Nov. 1, have an interest in avoiding any suggestion of a sellout to help ungrateful Europeans. He has used the opportunity to grandstand, on Friday accusing the EU of insincerity in talks on Turkish membership.
In truth, both Erdogan and Merkel know there is no near-term prospect of Turkey joining the EU. But both can still gain something from Sunday's meeting.
For Merkel, nailing down Turkey's commitment to the action plan is important to stemming the refugee flow and relieving the political pressure on her at home.
For Erdogan and the AKP, winning the promise of an accelerated path to visa-free travel to the EU for Turks could be an election boon.
(Additional reporting by Asli Kandemir in Istanbul, Editing by Angus MacSwan and Raissa Kasolowsky)
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Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by Kermit 18/10/2015, 20:17
U biti Merkelica je otišla pomoć Erdoganu u izbornoj kampanji, te borbi protiv Kurda, naravno i njegovoj politici pritajene pomoći ISIL-u i ostalim galvosječama i kanibalima, stvarno sa Merkelicom Njemačka je dotakla dno...
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Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by epikur37 18/10/2015, 20:18
Ta će drugo, nijemci i jesu za to :D
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2015-08-06
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by Kermit 18/10/2015, 20:19
Glupača prvo zvala milijune sada puzi i civili ispred Erdogana da spriječi upravo to, a ovaj se smije i šalje, koja tuka to je neviđeno, stvarno propast i čemer...
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RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by RayMabus 18/10/2015, 20:21
Omladinski ogranak konzervativnog bloka nemačke kancelarke Angele Merkel, Savez mladih, zatražio je danas ograničenje broja azilanata koje Nemačka može da primi, odstupivši od linije koju slede partijski lideri.
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/599312/NEPOSLUSNI-Omladina-protiv-Angele-Merkel-Ograniciti-broj-azilanata-u-Nemackoj
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/599312/NEPOSLUSNI-Omladina-protiv-Angele-Merkel-Ograniciti-broj-azilanata-u-Nemackoj
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by RayMabus 18/10/2015, 20:23
I najnowiji primjer integracije u njemačko društvo :
DVADESETOGODIŠNJI tražitelj azila umro je nakon što ga je drugi izbjeglica (18) izbo nožem u mjestu Wutha-Farnroda u središnjem dijelu Njemačke, priopćila je lokalna policija.
Svađa čiji motiv nije poznat izbila je u subotu navečer između dvojice afganistanskih državljana te se razbuktala. Žrtva i počinitelj dijelili su stan, kazala je policija.
Nakon što je nožem napao žrtvu, ubojica je izašao iz stana na cestu i ranio još jednog njemačkog prolaznika (22). Napadač je uhićen i stavljen u pritvor.
Sukobi među izbjeglicama redovito se događaju u prihvatilištima u Njemačkoj. Njihov je uzrok često etnička pripadnost ili uvjeti života u centrima koji su često prenapučeni.
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/dvoje-izbjeglica-sukobilo-se-u-njemackoj-jedan-je-sad-mrtav-napadac-u-bijegu-ranio-mladog-nijemca/850001.aspx
DVADESETOGODIŠNJI tražitelj azila umro je nakon što ga je drugi izbjeglica (18) izbo nožem u mjestu Wutha-Farnroda u središnjem dijelu Njemačke, priopćila je lokalna policija.
Svađa čiji motiv nije poznat izbila je u subotu navečer između dvojice afganistanskih državljana te se razbuktala. Žrtva i počinitelj dijelili su stan, kazala je policija.
Nakon što je nožem napao žrtvu, ubojica je izašao iz stana na cestu i ranio još jednog njemačkog prolaznika (22). Napadač je uhićen i stavljen u pritvor.
Sukobi među izbjeglicama redovito se događaju u prihvatilištima u Njemačkoj. Njihov je uzrok često etnička pripadnost ili uvjeti života u centrima koji su često prenapučeni.
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/dvoje-izbjeglica-sukobilo-se-u-njemackoj-jedan-je-sad-mrtav-napadac-u-bijegu-ranio-mladog-nijemca/850001.aspx
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by RayMabus 18/10/2015, 20:28
Zbog nekontroliranog prelaska granica, sindikat njemačke policije zatražio je izgradnju granične ograde na njemačko-austrijskoj granici, prenosi u nedjelju njemački dnevnik Welt am Sonntag.
"Ako zaista imamo ozbiljnu namjeru u potpunosti kontrolirati granice, onda moramo izgraditi ogradu uzduž njemačko-austrijske granice", rekao je predsjednik sindikata njemačke policije Rainer Wendt u razgovoru za Welt am Sonntag, nedjeljno izdanje dnevnika Die Welt.
Ovo je prvi slučaj tokom posljednje izbjegličke kriza da jedan visokopozicionirani njemački zvaničnik traži podizanje ograde na njemačkoj granici.
http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/njemacka-policija-za-ogradu-na-granici-s-austrijom
"Ako zaista imamo ozbiljnu namjeru u potpunosti kontrolirati granice, onda moramo izgraditi ogradu uzduž njemačko-austrijske granice", rekao je predsjednik sindikata njemačke policije Rainer Wendt u razgovoru za Welt am Sonntag, nedjeljno izdanje dnevnika Die Welt.
Ovo je prvi slučaj tokom posljednje izbjegličke kriza da jedan visokopozicionirani njemački zvaničnik traži podizanje ograde na njemačkoj granici.
http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/njemacka-policija-za-ogradu-na-granici-s-austrijom
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by Guest 18/10/2015, 20:44
RayMabus wrote:
DVADESETOGODIŠNJI tražitelj azila umro je nakon što ga je drugi izbjeglica (18) izbo nožem u mjestu Wutha-Farnroda u središnjem dijelu Njemačke
Nakon što je nožem napao žrtvu, ubojica je izašao iz stana na cestu i ranio još jednog njemačkog prolaznika (22).
Ah te slatke čari i šarm multi-kulti divota.
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Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by seksoje1 18/10/2015, 21:01
"Oma ficken" prvo rasplače libanonsku djevojčicu riječima: "Znaš zlato, ne možemo primiti tvoju obitelj, zato što bi to bila poruka svima da dođu u Njemačku, znaš zlato...", nakon toga pozove cijelu bulumentu od parsto tisuća "izbjeglica" u Njemačku. Milanović joj drži svijeću dok jebe cjelokupnu Evropu nesuvislom politikom stihije. Baba koristi neuro vibrator ili koju pičku mile materine. tako Anđa dakle zbunjuje i ljuti Švabe toliko da će izazvati kaos unutar države, a poznato je da isti imaju prijeku narav kad popizde.
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2015-09-25
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by seksoje1 18/10/2015, 21:07
Muke njemačke policije s ljudima bez ikakvih papira. Vrijedi pogledati kako ih jebu "migranti"
seksoje1- Posts : 97
2015-09-25
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2015-09-25
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by AlfaOmega 18/10/2015, 21:21
Pa treba Tursku po mogućnosti gurnuti odmah u Šengen. To bi definitivno riješilo izbjegličku krizu.
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2015-09-11
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by seksoje1 18/10/2015, 23:16
Austrija je objavila da više neće primati izbjeglice, pa ih neće primiti ni Slovenija u kojoj ih je trenutno 2.300. U Čakovcu čekaju vlak koji iz Tovarnika treba doći oko ponoći, s oko 1.200 ljudi, koji neće moći nastaviti put. U šest autobusa koji su iz Opatovca krenuli na Breganu je još oko 300 ljudi koji neće moći prijeći u Sloveniju.
Devet autobusa s migrantima iz Opatovca stiglo je u prihvatni centar u Ježevu. Riječ je većinom o ženama i djeci te obiteljima. Očekivalo se da će sutra krenuti u Sloveniju, no to je sada nemoguće.
Slovenija je otkazala prihvat migranata, objavila je slovenska policija. U tu je zemlju danas ušlo 2.100 ljudi. Trenutačno ih više od 2.300 čeka na odlazak u Austriju, u prihvatnim centrima Šentilj i Gornja Radgona, uz samu granicu.
Kolona od 40-ak autobusa s migrantima čeka ulazak u Hrvatsku iz Srbije. Prolazak do zapadne Europe usporen je, a vremenski se uvjeti pogoršavaju. Humanitarne organizacije zabrinute su jer bi izbjeglice mogle ostati na hladnoći, vjetru i kiši.
Hrvatska policija blokirala je više desetina izbjeglica koje su ilegalno pokušali ući u zemlju. Na policiju su naišli na polju kukuruza u blizini granice, počeli bježati i pokušali preći granicu preko susjedne njive.
Na Berkasovu izbjeglice noćile u autobusima čekajući ulazak u RH
Češki volonter Jan Pinoš nazvao je granični prijelaz na kojem se okupljaju izbjeglice "brana na rijeci" i izjavio za agenciju AP kako je tamo oko 2.000 iscrpljenih ljudi kojima ponestaje namirnica. Istaknuo je da kapacitet nove rute nije dovoljan jer je protok izbjeglica kroz Sloveniju slab.
Slovenija je do 19 sati primila više od 4.500 izbjeglica.
http://izbjeglice.hrt.hr/303751/kolona-autobusa-ceka-na-ulazak-u-hrvatsku-usporen-odlazak-iz-opatovca
Devet autobusa s migrantima iz Opatovca stiglo je u prihvatni centar u Ježevu. Riječ je većinom o ženama i djeci te obiteljima. Očekivalo se da će sutra krenuti u Sloveniju, no to je sada nemoguće.
Slovenija je otkazala prihvat migranata, objavila je slovenska policija. U tu je zemlju danas ušlo 2.100 ljudi. Trenutačno ih više od 2.300 čeka na odlazak u Austriju, u prihvatnim centrima Šentilj i Gornja Radgona, uz samu granicu.
Kolona od 40-ak autobusa s migrantima čeka ulazak u Hrvatsku iz Srbije. Prolazak do zapadne Europe usporen je, a vremenski se uvjeti pogoršavaju. Humanitarne organizacije zabrinute su jer bi izbjeglice mogle ostati na hladnoći, vjetru i kiši.
Hrvatska policija blokirala je više desetina izbjeglica koje su ilegalno pokušali ući u zemlju. Na policiju su naišli na polju kukuruza u blizini granice, počeli bježati i pokušali preći granicu preko susjedne njive.
Na Berkasovu izbjeglice noćile u autobusima čekajući ulazak u RH
Češki volonter Jan Pinoš nazvao je granični prijelaz na kojem se okupljaju izbjeglice "brana na rijeci" i izjavio za agenciju AP kako je tamo oko 2.000 iscrpljenih ljudi kojima ponestaje namirnica. Istaknuo je da kapacitet nove rute nije dovoljan jer je protok izbjeglica kroz Sloveniju slab.
Slovenija je do 19 sati primila više od 4.500 izbjeglica.
http://izbjeglice.hrt.hr/303751/kolona-autobusa-ceka-na-ulazak-u-hrvatsku-usporen-odlazak-iz-opatovca
seksoje1- Posts : 97
2015-09-25
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by Guest 18/10/2015, 23:24
Nije ih lakše zaustaviti na moru, zar će to biti lakše za izvesti na granici s Irakom i Sirijom?AlfaOmega wrote:Pa treba Tursku po mogućnosti gurnuti odmah u Šengen. To bi definitivno riješilo izbjegličku krizu.
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Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by Yehudi 19/10/2015, 10:15
Merkel stellt Türkei Geld und Visa-Erleichterungen in Aussicht
Angela Merkel hat die Türkei aufgefordert, Flüchtlinge schneller zurückzunehmen.Bundeskanzlerin Angela Merkel hat der Türkei Visa-Erleichterungen und Finanzhilfen in Aussicht gestellt, sollte das Land in der Flüchtlingskrise enger mit Europa zusammenarbeiten. Sie erwarte eine schnellere Anwendung des Rückführungsabkommens durch die Türkei, sagte Merkel am Sonntag
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Merkel obećala Turskoj olakšati vizni režim i financijsku pomoć ali
ovi moraju primiti nazad sve one kojima neće biti odobren azil.
A takvih će biti jedno 50% rekao bih.
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2014-04-20
Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by Guest 19/10/2015, 12:40
Kaže meni jedan Turčin, taksist koji me vozil, kad je saznal da sam iz HR, (Turci svi komunikativni sve u 16, nemreš odšutit niš, jer melju non stop) Araber sind keine guten Menschen. Mag es nicht zu tun, aber einfach hinlegen, essen und zu Hilfe zu erhalten. Nicht guten Menschen, veli Turčin 
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Re: Merkelica puzi ispred Erdogana
by jastreb 19/10/2015, 12:42
Umjesto što one budaletine u Titogradu podižu šatore i zahtijevaju Milov odlazak,trebalo bi da se Nijemci na taj korak odluče što prije i da nađu neku dostojniju zamjenu ovoj potrošenoj šlapi.
jastreb- Posts : 34059
2014-04-22
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