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Yehudi wrote:UH...............A KAŽE OČEVIDAC SA GALERIJE DA JE HITNA DOŠLA ZA 40 MIN

 Mada je za Cijanid puno i jedno i drugo

Prije obdukcije:
Prema riječima toksikologa prof. dr Dragana Joksovića, jedini otrov koji bi mogao tom brzinom da djeluje je cijanid.

- Tako brzo samo on može da djeluje. To je jedino trovanje koje ja nisam video, jer to dok dođe do mene obično bude kasno - navodi Joksović za Telegraf.

kaja wrote:

maggie13 wrote:Navodno je dva sata umirao u prostorijama suda.

Aha, je. Malo sutra.

ne bi me iznenadilo da su ga pustili mucit se.
Jos mu oni ostali nasi suosudjenici pokusavali davat prvu pomoc, a ostali gledaju.

maggie13 wrote:

kaja wrote:

maggie13 wrote:Navodno je dva sata umirao u prostorijama suda.

Aha, je. Malo sutra.

ne bi me iznenadilo da su ga pustili mucit se.
Jos mu oni ostali nasi suosudjenici pokusavali davat prvu pomoc, a ostali gledaju.

Ne. Jer njima ne pase sto je umro u sudnici i pred kamerama.
Zato su glumatali da je živ do bolnice.

Pa znas da su ostale optuženike brzo odveli u ćeliju da ne budu svjedoci.

https://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/novosti/hrvatska/clanak/id/519473/evo-kako-djeluje-cijanid-otrov-za-kojeg-toksikolozi-pretpostavljaju-da-ga-je-uzeo-general-praljak-dolazi-do-paralize-disanja-srce-staje

Yehudi wrote:opet kažem, teško da je riječ o cijanidu. Možda nikada ne doznamo istinu

A ne, sad je to sto posto , napravili su obdukciju i našli cijanid.
Ovo su toksikolozi pretpostavljali prije obdukcije.

kaja wrote:

Yehudi wrote:opet kažem, teško da je riječ o cijanidu. Možda nikada ne doznamo istinu

A ne, sad je to sto posto , napravili su obdukciju i našli cijanid.
Ovo su toksikolozi pretpostavljali prije obdukcije.

 Iz  linka  od Meggy: - Ogromna je paleta sredstava koje je mogao uzeti.


 Načelno mogu reći da vjerojatno nije popio cijanid, odnosno ozbiljan krvni otrov koji se krvlju širi do drugih organa -, 


kaže i objašnjava kako bi u tom slučaju smrt nastupila trenutačno.


 - A mogli su mu oni i posli uliti cijanid 


pa reći - eto, sam se otrova -


  Za pisma ( nisam ih vidio ) ne znam dali su pisana rukom ili na stroju.....


 Ne izmišljam ja ovo sada već sam u ovih par dana svakakve teorije sluša

[size=40]"Victims" of Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia: Suicides, Cancer and Conspiracies[/size]



Praljak has become the 13th individual whose death in some way relates to the tribunal in The Hague.

Milan Babic

Milan Babic, the first president of the Republic of Serbian Krajina, an unrecognized state largely populated by Serbs in Croatia, was indicted for war crimes in 2004. He was found dead after he reportedly committed suicide on March 5, 2006, while in the ICTY detention unit in The Hague.

The tribunal confirmed that Babic committed suicide. Media reported that Babi hanged himself using his belt, but this information remains unconfirmed.

Vlajko Stojiljkovic

Former Serbian Interior Minister Vlajko Stojiljkovic was accused of crimes against humanity and violations of the laws of war. On April 11, 2002, Stojiljkovic shot himself in the head near the House of the National Assembly of Serbia in Belgrade after the Law on Cooperation with the Hague Tribunal was passed. He died in hospital in Belgrade two days later.

Slavko Dokmanovic

Slavko Dokmanovic was a Croatian Serb who was charged with breaching the Geneva Conventions and crimes against humanity by the ICTY for his actions during the time he served as mayor of the Croatian town of Vukovar.

He hanged himself in his cell on June 29, 1998, and his trial ended without a verdict.

Slobodan Milosevic

The death of Slobodan Milosevic, the former president of Yugoslavia, has been the subject of various conspiracies. He was charged by the ICTY with war crimes and crimes against humanity in connections with the wars in Serbia, Croatia and Kosovo. His five-year-long trial ended without a verdict after Milosevic died of a heart attack in his cell in The Hague on March 11, 2006.

The Tribunal denied responsibility for his death, saying Milosevic had refused to take prescribed medicines and medicated himself instead.

A few days before his death, Milosevic sent a letter to the Russian Foreign Ministry, in which he said an antibiotic had been found in his blood. The former Yugoslavian leader insisted he never took antibiotics during his five years in prison. A toxicologist said that the antibiotic 



One of the conspiracies around his death involves Russia. Donald Uges, a toxicologist from Groningen University, told Reuters that Milosevic had taken the drug hoping that the court would agree to transfer him to Moscow for treatment and in Moscow he would be free.

An opposite theory claims that the tribunal could have been behind his death because there was no solid evidence against Milosevic.

Milan Kovacevic

A former president of the Executive Committee of the Municipal Assembly of Prijedor, Milan Kovacevic, was indicted by the ICTY of genocide, war crimes and violations of the laws of war. He died from an aortic disruption in his cell on August 1, 1998, before his verdict was delivered.

Zdravko Tolimir

Former Bosnian military commander Zdravko Tolimir was convicted of genocide, extermination and persecution on ethnic grounds. On February 8, 2016, Tolimir died of natural causes serving a life sentence in Scheveningen prison.

Ljubisa Beara

Ljubisa Beara was the chief of security of the Bosnian Serb Army Main Staff. He was convicted of genocide, murder and persecution and sentenced to a life in prison. He died in prison in Berlin on February 9, 2017.

Mile Mrksic

A former commander of the Army of the Republic of Serbian Krajina, Mile Mrksic, was indicted in crimes against humanity and violations of the rules and customs of war and sentenced to 20 years. He died on August 16, 2015.

Goran Hadzic

Goran Hadzic was the president of the Republic of Serbian Krajina during the Croatian War of Independence. He was accused of crimes against humanity and violations of the laws of war by the ICTY.

In November 2014, he was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, but the tribunal for several months refused to release him for treatment. Hadzic died from his disease on July 12, 2016.

Djordje Djukic, Momir Talic, Milan Gvero

Serbian general Djordje Djukic convicted for war crimes was released from Scheveningen prison in April 1996 due to cancer and died on May 18, 1996, in a medical military facility in Belgrade. Two other Republika Srpska generals, Momir Talic and General Milan Gvero, died in this facility in 2003 and 2013, respectively.

https://sputniknews.com/world/201712031059653422-icty-tribunal-yugoslavia-victims/

Yehudi wrote:

[size=40]"Victims" of Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia: Suicides, Cancer and Conspiracies[/size]



Praljak has become the 13th individual whose death in some way relates to the tribunal in The Hague.

Milan Babic

Milan Babic, the first president of the Republic of Serbian Krajina, an unrecognized state largely populated by Serbs in Croatia, was indicted for war crimes in 2004. He was found dead after he reportedly committed suicide on March 5, 2006, while in the ICTY detention unit in The Hague.

The tribunal confirmed that Babic committed suicide. Media reported that Babi hanged himself using his belt, but this information remains unconfirmed.

Vlajko Stojiljkovic

Former Serbian Interior Minister Vlajko Stojiljkovic was accused of crimes against humanity and violations of the laws of war. On April 11, 2002, Stojiljkovic shot himself in the head near the House of the National Assembly of Serbia in Belgrade after the Law on Cooperation with the Hague Tribunal was passed. He died in hospital in Belgrade two days later.

Slavko Dokmanovic

Slavko Dokmanovic was a Croatian Serb who was charged with breaching the Geneva Conventions and crimes against humanity by the ICTY for his actions during the time he served as mayor of the Croatian town of Vukovar.

He hanged himself in his cell on June 29, 1998, and his trial ended without a verdict.

Slobodan Milosevic

The death of Slobodan Milosevic, the former president of Yugoslavia, has been the subject of various conspiracies. He was charged by the ICTY with war crimes and crimes against humanity in connections with the wars in Serbia, Croatia and Kosovo. His five-year-long trial ended without a verdict after Milosevic died of a heart attack in his cell in The Hague on March 11, 2006.

The Tribunal denied responsibility for his death, saying Milosevic had refused to take prescribed medicines and medicated himself instead.

A few days before his death, Milosevic sent a letter to the Russian Foreign Ministry, in which he said an antibiotic had been found in his blood. The former Yugoslavian leader insisted he never took antibiotics during his five years in prison. A toxicologist said that the antibiotic 



One of the conspiracies around his death involves Russia. Donald Uges, a toxicologist from Groningen University, told Reuters that Milosevic had taken the drug hoping that the court would agree to transfer him to Moscow for treatment and in Moscow he would be free.

An opposite theory claims that the tribunal could have been behind his death because there was no solid evidence against Milosevic.

Milan Kovacevic

A former president of the Executive Committee of the Municipal Assembly of Prijedor, Milan Kovacevic, was indicted by the ICTY of genocide, war crimes and violations of the laws of war. He died from an aortic disruption in his cell on August 1, 1998, before his verdict was delivered.

Zdravko Tolimir

Former Bosnian military commander Zdravko Tolimir was convicted of genocide, extermination and persecution on ethnic grounds. On February 8, 2016, Tolimir died of natural causes serving a life sentence in Scheveningen prison.

Ljubisa Beara

Ljubisa Beara was the chief of security of the Bosnian Serb Army Main Staff. He was convicted of genocide, murder and persecution and sentenced to a life in prison. He died in prison in Berlin on February 9, 2017.

Mile Mrksic

A former commander of the Army of the Republic of Serbian Krajina, Mile Mrksic, was indicted in crimes against humanity and violations of the rules and customs of war and sentenced to 20 years. He died on August 16, 2015.

Goran Hadzic

Goran Hadzic was the president of the Republic of Serbian Krajina during the Croatian War of Independence. He was accused of crimes against humanity and violations of the laws of war by the ICTY.

In November 2014, he was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer, but the tribunal for several months refused to release him for treatment. Hadzic died from his disease on July 12, 2016.

Djordje Djukic, Momir Talic, Milan Gvero

Serbian general Djordje Djukic convicted for war crimes was released from Scheveningen prison in April 1996 due to cancer and died on May 18, 1996, in a medical military facility in Belgrade. Two other Republika Srpska generals, Momir Talic and General Milan Gvero, died in this facility in 2003 and 2013, respectively.

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