Otvorene ponude za nabavu borbenih zrakoplova

Totenkopf wrote:Ponude bi trebalo objaviti javno i organizirati referendum, pa nek odluči onaj tko plaća...
Pa nek bude f-16, grippen ili ništa...

pismejker wrote:Pa jeftin je..47 milijuna Ojrova..

vuksadinare wrote:...ja sam za one koreance jeftin a nov..i garancija na 20 godina i dobis novo za staro..bez zajebancije koreanci takvu ponudu slali..

Totenkopf wrote:

pismejker wrote:Pa jeftin je..47 milijuna Ojrova..

Pa jeftino je pun ku*ac, koliko love godišnje ide na sranja, uhljebe i udruge za sviranje ku*cu...
Nevjerojatno je da se 15 godina čeka jer je kao 'skupo'...

[size=30]Sukhoi Su-30mK

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Price - Current Price $ 47 million Export *

Giving Variety to Air Attacks The Sukhoi Su-30mK...

Manufactured from -
2002 - Present
Seating Chart /Seats -
2
   1 Class    2 Class    3 Class  
Travel Range -
8,000.00 Kilometer
4,320 Nautical Miles
Country of Manufacture -
Russia
Editor Rating (out of 10) -
7.35
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Specifications

Engine - 2 × Lyulka AL-31FP turbofans
Power - 29,400.00 lbf
Avionics - Sukhoi Air to Air Fire Control System
Maximum Cruising Speed - 2,500.00 km per hr   1,553.50 mph
Service Ceiling - 17,983.20 metres   59,000.00 feets
Rate of Climb - 21,336.00 mpm   70,000.00 fpm
Numbers Ordered/Sold - 230
Cabin Height - N/A   N/A
Cabin Width - N/A   N/A
Cabin Length - N/A   N/A
Exterior Length - 22.10 metres  72.51 feets
Wingspan / Rotor Diameter - 14.70 metres  48.23 feets
Fuselage Diameter - N/A   N/A
Baggage Volume - N/A   N/A
Maximum Take Off Weight - 38,828.16 kgs  85,600.00 lbs
Maximum Payload - 7,983.36 kgs  17,600.00 lbs
Fuel Tank Capacity - 3,165.00 gallon  11,980.79 litres
Fuel Economy - 0.58 km per litre  1.36 NM per gallon
Minimum Take Off Distance - 550.00 metres  1,804.44 feets
Minimum Landing Distance - 750.00 metres  2,460.60 feets

Brain32 wrote:

Totenkopf wrote:Ponude bi trebalo objaviti javno i organizirati referendum, pa nek odluči onaj tko plaća...
Pa nek bude f-16, grippen ili ništa...

Rekli su da će biti transparentno, baš tražim ponude po netu ali nema još ništa...valjda im crko skener...

RayMabus wrote:Jebeš tu air policing avijaciju 

Treba preuredit civilne putničke avione u bombarder i bacat bojlere na imigranate

pismejker wrote:

Totenkopf wrote:Ponude bi trebalo objaviti javno i organizirati referendum, pa nek odluči onaj tko plaća...
Pa nek bude f-16, grippen ili ništa...

E yebi ga..da je nes generalno,sto se svatk okuzi,ali u sustini se mali broj ljudi kuzi u tu materiju,tak oda prevladavaju vise politicke odluke..

Totenkopf wrote:

RayMabus wrote:Jebeš tu air policing avijaciju 

Treba preuredit civilne putničke avione u bombarder i bacat bojlere na imigranate

Triba im poslat kanadere i zalivat ih svinjskom masti...

Totenkopf wrote:

Brain32 wrote:

Totenkopf wrote:Ponude bi trebalo objaviti javno i organizirati referendum, pa nek odluči onaj tko plaća...
Pa nek bude f-16, grippen ili ništa...

Rekli su da će biti transparentno, baš tražim ponude po netu ali nema još ništa...valjda im crko skener...

Transparentno njima znači da ko fol neće nitko stavit u džep...

pismejker wrote:Rijetki videji Sukhoi 30MK na blablabla..

Eroo wrote:Treba znati kupovati ovakve stare stvari. 
Svi dijelovi su ispitivani na dinamičke utjecaje i do rušenja.
Hoće li netko pogledati dijagrame P-delta? Hoće, ali u qrtzu...
Evo  nudim svoju stručnu pomoć...za badave... 
Mogao bi i Veber, ali on nema vremena.

Brain32 wrote:

pismejker wrote:

Totenkopf wrote:Ponude bi trebalo objaviti javno i organizirati referendum, pa nek odluči onaj tko plaća...
Pa nek bude f-16, grippen ili ništa...

E yebi ga..da je nes generalno,sto se svatk okuzi,ali u sustini se mali broj ljudi kuzi u tu materiju,tak oda prevladavaju vise politicke odluke..

Ne znam ja ni koliko se kuže u MORH-u oko toga...to je zajeb.
Misliš da Krstičević kuži razlike u varijantama APG-66 i APG-68 radara, svaki ima hrpetinu varijacija i poboljšanja a bilo koja varijanta ti može doći sa F-16. A to je samo jedan sustav od gotovo bezbroj s tim da stvari tek postaju lude za Izraelskim varijantama....

Eroo wrote:

pismejker wrote:Rijetki videji Sukhoi 30MK na blablabla..

Ovo bi mogla kupiti samo pijana budala od nekih bogatih arapskih država.

Eroo wrote:

pismejker wrote:Rijetki videji Sukhoi 30MK na blablabla..

Ovo bi mogla kupiti samo pijana budala od nekih bogatih arapskih država.



evoi sluzbenog..

SPECIFICATIONS

Engine - 2 × Lyulka AL-31FP turbofans
Power - 29,400.00 lbf
Avionics - Sukhoi Air to Air Fire Control System
Maximum Cruising Speed - 2,500.00 km per hr   1,553.50 mph
Service Ceiling - 17,983.20 metres   59,000.00 feets
Rate of Climb - 21,336.00 mpm   70,000.00 fpm
Numbers Ordered/Sold - 230
Cabin Height - N/A   N/A
Cabin Width - N/A   N/A
Cabin Length - N/A   N/A
Exterior Length - 22.10 metres  72.51 feets
Wingspan / Rotor Diameter - 14.70 metres  48.23 feets
Fuselage Diameter - N/A   N/A
Baggage Volume - N/A   N/A
Maximum Take Off Weight - 38,828.16 kgs  85,600.00 lbs
Maximum Payload - 7,983.36 kgs  17,600.00 lbs
Fuel Tank Capacity - 3,165.00 gallon  11,980.79 litres
Fuel Economy - 0.58 km per litre  1.36 NM per gallon
Minimum Take Off Distance - 550.00 metres  1,804.44 feets
Minimum Landing Distance - 750.00 metres  2,460.60 feets

veber wrote:

Eroo wrote:Treba znati kupovati ovakve stare stvari. 
Svi dijelovi su ispitivani na dinamičke utjecaje i do rušenja.
Hoće li netko pogledati dijagrame P-delta? Hoće, ali u qrtzu...
Evo  nudim svoju stručnu pomoć...za badave... 
Mogao bi i Veber, ali on nema vremena.

misliš na delta P?
to je čista razlika pritisaka...

mene više zanima rezervoar i potrošnja.

Eroo wrote:

veber wrote:

Eroo wrote:Treba znati kupovati ovakve stare stvari. 
Svi dijelovi su ispitivani na dinamičke utjecaje i do rušenja.
Hoće li netko pogledati dijagrame P-delta? Hoće, ali u qrtzu...
Evo  nudim svoju stručnu pomoć...za badave... 
Mogao bi i Veber, ali on nema vremena.

misliš na delta P?
to je čista razlika pritisaka...

mene više zanima rezervoar i potrošnja.

Ne, već upravo onako kako sam napisao (delta - grčko slovo!).

Specifications (Su-30MKM)[edit]

Su30mkm from rear

Su30mkm seen from top and bottom

• Crew: 2
  
  
• Length: 21.935 m (73 ft)
  
  
• Wingspan: 14.7 m (48 ft 3 in)
  
  
• Height: 6.36 m (20 ft 10 in)
  
  
• Wing area: 62 m² (667 ft²)
  
  
• Empty weight: 18,400 kg^[13] (40,565 lb)
  
  
• Loaded weight: 26,090 kg (57,520 lb) typical mission weight^[11]
  
  
• Max. takeoff weight: 38,800 kg (85,600 lb)
  
  
• Powerplant: 2 × Lyulka AL-31FP turbofans
  
  

• Maximum speed:
  
  
  
  • At high altitude: Mach 2 (2,120 km/h; 1,320 mi)^[11]
    
  • At low altitude: Mach 1.09 (1,350 km/h, 839 mph)
    
  
  
  
  
• Range:
  
  
  
  • At high altitude: 3,000 km (1,860 mi; 1,620 nmi)
    
  • At low altitude: 1,270 km (790 mi; 690 mi)
    
  
  
  
  
• Ferry range: 8,000 km (4,970 mi; 4,320 nmi) with two in-flight refuellings^[12]
  
  
• Service ceiling: 17,300 m (56,800 ft)
  
  
• Rate of climb: >300 m/s (>45,275 ft/min)
  
  
• Wing loading: 401 kg/m² (82.3 lb/ft²)
  
  
• Thrust/weight: 0.96
  
  
• Maximum g-load: +9 g
  
  

• Guns: 1 × 30 mm Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-301 autocannon
  
  
• Hardpoints: 12 hardpoints (2 × wingtip AAM rails, 6 × under-wing pylons, 2 × pylon under-engine nacelles, and 2 × pylons in tandem in the "arch" between the engines. It can be increased to 14 using multiple ejector racks.) with a capacity of up to 8,130 kg (17,920 lb) and provisions to carry combinations of:
  
  
  
  • Rockets:
    
    
    
    • 4 × B-8 rocket pods for 80 × S-8 rockets
      
    • 4 × B-13 rocket pods for 20 × S-13 rockets
      
    
    
    
  • Missiles:
    
    
    
    • Air-to-air missiles:
      
      
      
      • 10 × R-77
        
      • 6 × R-27ER/ET
        
      • 2 × R-27R/T
        
      • 6 × R-73
        
      • 3 × K-100
        
      
      
      
    • Air-to-surface missiles:
      
      
      
      • 3 × Kh-59ME
        
      • 6 × Kh-29T/L
        
      
      
      
    • Anti-ship missiles:
      
      
      
      • 3 × Kh-59MK
        
      • 4 × Kh-35
        
      
      
      
    • Anti-radiation missiles:
      
      
      
      • 6 × Kh-31P/A
        
      
      
      
    
    
    
  • Bombs:
    
    
    
    • 8 × KAB-500L laser-guided bombs
      
    • 3 × KAB-1500L laser-guided bombs
      
    • 8 × FAB-500T bombs
      
    • 28 × OFAB-250-270 bombs
      
    • 32 × OFAB-100-120 bombs
      
    • 4 × GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb