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markabc wrote:isil ne odgovara nikome al svakome je prakticno sto ratuje i protiv nekog njihovog neprijatelja. tako je turcima prakticno sto napadaju kurde, amerima asada, rusima pobunnenike koji su "amercik".

isil je donedavno napadal slabo asada kojem je solidno islo pa se rusi nisu mijesali. kad je postalo jasno da asada sigurno gubi uletavaju rusi da mu pomognu. i to je to...

zanimljiv je i izrael. rado bi primili alawitskw izbjeglice no nemreju se dogovorit s asadom i najradije bi da alawiti ostanu na vlasti al odaberu nekog drugog.

pomalo cirkus...

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Yehudi wrote:
   Ameri su okupirali Irak, mogli su ga urediti kako su tili

ali vidimo kakvo je sranje i danas tamo....di je problem?

Problem je što ljudi tamo ne doživljavaju demokraciju. Religija im se uvukla u sve pore društva.

Sve je to bilo donekle pod kontrolom.

kako ih Al Sisi kontrolira? Solidno. 

Ma jednostavno oni nisu za demokraciju već

za diktaturu i to je to.

   Alionda se nema tko šta mišati sa strane pa ni Ameri

tražeći "demokratske promjene" (to je laz i izlika ovako-onako)

   Ila ako već, onda od sviju zahtijevati isto a najprije od SA

 koja je pomeni gora od S. Koreje.

occupied golan :D :D :D

neoliberalni_placenik wrote:occupied golan :D :D :D

Hja da.

Yehudi wrote:I Rusi su rekli da Assad ostaje na vlasti do 2016 a

do tada je najbitnije poraziti ovaj isis. 

    Oni su ti koji su globalni problem i trn u oku čovječanstvu.

Kad se situacija u zemlji stabilizira doći će do izbora pod

medjunarodnom kontrolom.

  Zašto je tako teško raditi skupa na uništenju gamadi?

 Lako za Assada ali kad bi sada umro od srca, šta bi bilo

rješenje?

   Ameri su okupirali Irak, mogli su ga urediti kako su tili

ali vidimo kakvo je sranje i danas tamo....di je problem?

kako sam rekao prije ISIS se neće poraziti.

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Russia Versus ISIL in Syria (112)
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A DC think tank has proposed another narrative regarding Russia’s involvement in Syria; having failed to sell the idea of Moscow’s anti-ISIL campaign being a ruse for bombing 'friendly' militants, it now claims that "Putin aims to drive a wedge between the US and Europe", coaxing the latter to embrace closer ties with the Kremlin.

Two research fellows from the Hudson Institute, a conservative DC-based think tank, have laid out their vision of what Russia is up to in the skies above Syria.


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Russia's Anti-ISIL Operation Prompted Smear Campaign in World Media - Foreign Ministry
The real reason for Russia's presence, they claim, is not to assist in the fight against the Islamic State, but rather to “drive a wedge between Europeans and Americans”.

In their article, which was published on the institute’s website and in Foreign Policy, the authors insist that Europe certainly can’t manage on its own and should be shepherded, if not by the US, then by Russia.
“Should Russia’s narrative on Syria carry the day, the consequences will test the reliability of US leadership,” they say.
The authors reiterate that the true purpose of the US-led coalition in Syria is to oust its legitimate president rather than to merely fight a terrorist group, and lament that the fight against the Islamic State has now taken precedence.
“European governments that have spent political capital supporting Washington’s position from the start of the Syrian crisis, now pressured to prioritize the fight against the Islamic State instead of ousting Assad, are left to ponder if Putin has been right all along.”
“Is he a more reliable ally than Washington? In any case, Russia’s move is less of an enigma to European policymakers than it is to the White House. “If I [were] Russia and Iran, I would act exactly the same way,” they quote a senior European diplomat as telling Foreign Policy.
“Even more worrisome for the future of European liberal polities, Putin’s moves in Syria will only embolden the voices that turn to Moscow as an alternative to Washington and Brussels.”


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Expert Mocks US Neocons for Their 'Fairy Tale' Belief in Moderate Syrian Militants
The authors then get down to the real business of worrying that if President Putin hasn't been wrong all along, then perhaps the anti-Russian sanctions should be called into question: “more dangerously, this goes beyond Syria. Russian involvement in Syria is inextricably linked to the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.”

“Should the Ukrainian situation remain calm, European leaders will have a hard time explaining why they must maintain sanctions on the very country they’re counting on to solve the Syrian problem.”
“Sanctions don’t come cheap for European economies. The European Commission projects that Ukraine-related sanctions cost European economies 0.3 GDP points in 2014 and 2015 — a non-negligible cut, when eurozone GDP is only expected to grow by 1.5 percent in 2015. In short, the sanctions regime is expensive, divisive, and European leaders are beginning to make noise about their desire to rebuild trade relations with Russia. Their business communities demand it, and Europe’s attention span for the conflict in Ukraine is waning.”
With these 'grim' prognostications, the authors conclude that “after his recent move, Vladimir Putin seems like a more coherent, reliable player than Washington,” warning that the “cost of American restraint may damage European and transatlantic unity for many years to come.”[/size]


Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20151006/1028097833/russia-syria-europe-us.html#ixzz3npc0F1fB

neoliberalni_placenik wrote:occupied golan :D :D :D

   To se mora tako pisati radi "političke korektnosti" fol.

 Naravno da je svima jasno da Golan pripada Izraelu

 a možda se zona još proširi uskoro. 

Danas krenila žešća deratizacija "umjerenih" iz zraka i sa zemlje.

Samo deri Ivan



 isis stavlja tenkove bliže djamijama i civilnim objektima.

 Predpostavlja se da će izvesti false-flag akciju minirajući 

 sakralne objekte kako bi za to i smrt civila okrivili Rusiju.

Yehudi wrote:

neoliberalni_placenik wrote:occupied golan :D :D :D

   To se mora tako pisati radi "političke korektnosti" fol.

 Naravno da je svima jasno da Golan pripada Izraelu

 a možda se zona još proširi uskoro. 

Ako te vidi Asilovski bit će boja.

epikur37 wrote:


To je to, kraj kalifata.

kaže putin "dovedite Bagdadija živog ili mrtvog" da ne bi bilo kao i sa Ladenom čija smrt je nejasna. Kad nekoga Rus ubije onda je sve jasno :))

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Russian Warships in Caspian Sea Launch Attack on ISIL in Syria

Russian warships have launched a total of 26 cruise missiles at Islamic State facilities, destroying all targets.

Russian warships have attacked Islamic State targets in Syria, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said Wednesday during a meeting with President Putin.
“Besides using aviation to destroy militants, this morning ships from the Caspian Flotilla were brought in, four destroyers launched 26 cruise missiles at 11 targets from the Kalibr Marine Base,” Shoigu told Putin in a meeting televised by Rossiya-1.


Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151007/1028149460/russian-navy-attack-syria.html#ixzz3nspsVaiy




  

Aj čekamo više taj poraz ISISa.. 3-4 dana se govorilo, pa vidit ćemo valjda će se ISIS poraziti sada za 3-4 tjedna..

neoliberalni_placenik wrote:Aj čekamo više taj poraz ISISa.. 3-4 dana se govorilo, pa vidit ćemo valjda će se ISIS poraziti sada za 3-4 tjedna..

Molim lijepo, napravili smo više za 5 dana nego smotani Ameri za godinu ;)