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Re: Sirija
Samo kao čuvare dostignutih linija, koju uspostave djelatne i iskusne brigade. Sve ostalo bi značilo bespotrebno gubljenje ljudstva.Leviathan2 wrote: nikakovog rjesenja tamo nema osim da assad napravi ono sto je izbjegavao do sad napravit, punu mobilizaciju i sa dva milijuna vojnika moze puno ucinit, ovo sto je sad je cisto mrcvarenje jer sadasnja vojska nema snage da napravi reda, jednostavno su u ,anjku sa ljudstvom,
Eroo- Posts : 78956
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da, jer sada iskusne brigade su opterecene i cuvanjem linija i poduzimanjem akcija, oslobode negdje nesto i odu na drugu liniju te ostave kurac od ndf i to jos u malom broju, zaleti se isis sa 10 ljudi, diglu graju alahuekser i ovi se razbjeze kud koji , ostave i oruzje i gatjeEroo wrote:Samo kao čuvare dostignutih linija, koju uspostave djelatne i iskusne brigade. Sve ostalo bi značilo bespotrebno gubljenje ljudstva.Leviathan2 wrote: nikakovog rjesenja tamo nema osim da assad napravi ono sto je izbjegavao do sad napravit, punu mobilizaciju i sa dva milijuna vojnika moze puno ucinit, ovo sto je sad je cisto mrcvarenje jer sadasnja vojska nema snage da napravi reda, jednostavno su u ,anjku sa ljudstvom,
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Ajmooo.. krešššš...
ALEPPO, SYRIA – A military source confirmed to Al-Masdar that units from the Syrian Arab Army’s elite Tiger Forces managed Ayosha Hill shortly after capturing the neighboring Ayosha village.
The source underscored the importance of this deed calling it a “strategic achievement” as it positions the Syrian Army to strike Al-Bab’s last line of defense at Tadef by cutting the terrorist group’s supply lines from Deir Hafer and Raqqa at Abu Jabbar Kabir village.
This assault surprised the Islamic State’s regional command as they expected the main focus of attack to be at Beerat Al-Bab from Touman and Aran villages. The Tiger Forces are notorious for their randomized attacks that disorient their foes and puncture their defenses.
As a result of the most recent advances, all ISIS positions south of Al-Bab are vulnerable and that is in spite of all the tunnels and trenches the insurgents dug to swamp the government forces’ advances. Al-Masdar’s source suggests that an ISIS counterattack on the imperative hill is highly expected due to its significance in protecting Al-Bab, Biza’a, and Qabbassin.
Notably, the Syrian Armed Forces were able to destroy eight VBIEDs in their Aleppo battles against the extremist group while their Turkish counterparts continue to incur heavy losses due to their lacking experience in such warfare.
ALEPPO, SYRIA – A military source confirmed to Al-Masdar that units from the Syrian Arab Army’s elite Tiger Forces managed Ayosha Hill shortly after capturing the neighboring Ayosha village.
The source underscored the importance of this deed calling it a “strategic achievement” as it positions the Syrian Army to strike Al-Bab’s last line of defense at Tadef by cutting the terrorist group’s supply lines from Deir Hafer and Raqqa at Abu Jabbar Kabir village.
This assault surprised the Islamic State’s regional command as they expected the main focus of attack to be at Beerat Al-Bab from Touman and Aran villages. The Tiger Forces are notorious for their randomized attacks that disorient their foes and puncture their defenses.
As a result of the most recent advances, all ISIS positions south of Al-Bab are vulnerable and that is in spite of all the tunnels and trenches the insurgents dug to swamp the government forces’ advances. Al-Masdar’s source suggests that an ISIS counterattack on the imperative hill is highly expected due to its significance in protecting Al-Bab, Biza’a, and Qabbassin.
Notably, the Syrian Armed Forces were able to destroy eight VBIEDs in their Aleppo battles against the extremist group while their Turkish counterparts continue to incur heavy losses due to their lacking experience in such warfare.
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prije 5 sati
Comments91
Turkey today arrests nearly 500 suspected ISIS members, including key leaders and many Syrians, foreigners
Pitanje je koliko ovakvim komentarima rekla-kazala možeš vjerovati.
Comments91
Turkey today arrests nearly 500 suspected ISIS members, including key leaders and many Syrians, foreigners
Pitanje je koliko ovakvim komentarima rekla-kazala možeš vjerovati.
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Eroo wrote:prije 5 sati
Comments91
Turkey today arrests nearly 500 suspected ISIS members, including key leaders and many Syrians, foreigners
Pitanje je koliko ovakvim komentarima rekla-kazala možeš vjerovati.
Bilo je na vijestima danas, sa snimkama hapšenja iz TR, uhapšeno preko 700 osumnjičenih
da su članovi -isis- Pronadjeno oružje i eksploziv.
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[size=30]‘ULTRA-SECRET WEAPON’ THAT ALLOWS RUSSIA TO ASSUME HIS SUPREMACY IN ELECTRONIC RADIO WAR IN SYRIA[/size]
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Valentin Vasilescu; Translated from French by Alice Decker
Originally published in Ziarul de Garda (in Romanian) (11 October 2015); And in French (12 October 2015) at Réseau international
Russia knew from the outset that NATO’s air and space surveillance systems were in a position to control all the activity of Russian military aircraft based in Syria. Thanks to the American reconnaissance aircraft RC135, the British Sentinel R1 aircraft, the AWACS radars and the Predator unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) deployed on Syria’s borders, it was possible to intercept : all radio traffic on Russian networks, the number and type of aircraft, their flight paths, the type of weapon used, the objectives targeted by the rebels, and their location — especially since most rebel groups in Syria are armed and supported by the United States and can be warned in time, for each operation.
Awacs
The media had long been talking about the types of Russian bombers operating in Syria, the weapons they used for air strikes, and the results of these strikes. But the most sophisticated, the “secret weapon” that enabled the Russians to impose their supremacy in electronic warfare remains surrounded by mystery.
The formidable Russian system of collecting and processing data also remains enveloped in mystery. These two categories of weapons constitute the C4i complex (command, control, communication, computers, information and interoperability) that the Russians created in Syria. It allows bombing targets to be identified and allocated among the different types of aircraft, while preventing NATO from discovering anything of the Russians’ modus operandi. Lacking even a minimum of information, NATO cannot trigger effective electronic countermeasures (ECM) against the Russians in Syria.
The land, naval and air of electronic warfare equipment that Russia has deployed in the theater of military operations in Syria make it possible to monitor the entire electromagnetic spectrum in order to locate enemy systems and to jam them. Electronic warfare now extends to the jamming of communications, radars and electro-optical monitoring systems. Modern countermeasures equipment, including in the visible, infrared or laser spectrum, uses aerial and space-based electro-optical (IMINT) monitoring to thwart the Russians in annihilating the EI. To protect against NATO reconnaissance, the Russians have deployed several Krasukha-4 in Syria. The Russian Su-24, Su-25, and Su-34 aircraft are equipped with SAP-518 / SPS-171 jamming pods and the Mi-8AMTSh helicopters with Richag-AVs. In addition is the Priazovye ship (Vishnya class), belonging to the Russian Black Sea fleet, which has been deployed in the Mediterranean Sea near the Syrian coast. This vessel specializes in scrambling and in collecting SIGINT and COMINT data (interception of all communication networks).
The Krasukha-4 is a mobile broadband system, mounted on the BAZ-6910-022 8 X 8 chassis, which interferes with the surveillance radars of military satellites, AWACS ground and air radars, and those mounted on unmanned aircraft (drones). The Krasukha-4 is the only system capable of blurring the Lacrosse / Onyx family of American spy satellites. These satellites travel in low orbit and are equipped with SAR (Synthetic Aperture Radar), which allows them to penetrate the cloud layer as well as the ground or the walls of buildings, with a resolution of 20 cm.
What happened as a result of the Russians putting in place such electronic radio warfare equipment in Syria?
The Krasukha-4 system at the Russian air base in Hmeymim (Latakia Governorate) creates an invisibility cloak for objects in the air and on the ground with a radius of 300 km. The Krasukha-4 is capable of “blinding” the detection and guard radars of the MIM-104 Patriot anti-aircraft missiles on the Turkish border, and also the radars of the Turkish F-16C fighter jets taking off from the Incirlik base, thus helping to create a “no-fly zone” over Syria. The Incirlik Air Force Base is located not far from the city of Adana, 140 km north of Latakia.
Under the protection of Krasukha-4 and other interference systems, dozens of Russian aircraft went undetected by NATO as they were flying in and landing in Syria, being discovered only a few days after they had arrived at the Hmeymim air base.
How did the Russian fighters get to Syria without anyone noticing?
As a result of the Russians’ electronic warfare systems, “moderate” Islamist rebels, who were informed by the United States from 2013 onward about all Syrian army movements, had no information about the secret concentration of Syrian troops on the Latakia–Idlib axis (north of Latakia), Latakia–Hama (east of Latakia) and Latakia–Homs.
This allowed the Syrian army, supported by Russian bombers, to launch offensive actions with armored vehicles to take control of the Idlib–Hama–Homs segment of the M5 motorway between Damascus and Aleppo.
Major offensive of the Syrian Army
Recall that in Syria, the Russian army created a surveillance-strike system in which the collection and processing of data is stratified on several levels. The first level of information is for the security units at the billets of Russian troops in Syria (Latakia airport and port of Tartus). This is ensured by 4–6 mini-planes and ZALA-type unmanned helicopters (UAV), ultra-light and silent, powered by an electric motor, with a range of up to 30 kilometers.
To detect targets for medium-range bombing missions, the Russians use 36 unmanned Yakovlev Pchela-1T and Orlan-10 aircraft, and for surveillance of the entire territory of Syria they use Dozor 600 or Altius reconnaissance drones, similar to the American MQ-1B Predator.
For monitoring the entire territory of Syria, the Russians have also deployed ELINT type II-20M1 reconnaissance aircraft equipped with Kvalat-2 radars, which can detect aircraft, land vehicles and artillery pieces Up to a distance of 300 km. The Il-20M1 is also equipped with a system for intercepting and interfering all military communications, radar and mobile telephony, as well as a high-resolution camera (A-87P).[/size]
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Valentin Vasilescu; Translated from French by Alice Decker
Originally published in Ziarul de Garda (in Romanian) (11 October 2015); And in French (12 October 2015) at Réseau international
Russia knew from the outset that NATO’s air and space surveillance systems were in a position to control all the activity of Russian military aircraft based in Syria. Thanks to the American reconnaissance aircraft RC135, the British Sentinel R1 aircraft, the AWACS radars and the Predator unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) deployed on Syria’s borders, it was possible to intercept : all radio traffic on Russian networks, the number and type of aircraft, their flight paths, the type of weapon used, the objectives targeted by the rebels, and their location — especially since most rebel groups in Syria are armed and supported by the United States and can be warned in time, for each operation.
Awacs
The media had long been talking about the types of Russian bombers operating in Syria, the weapons they used for air strikes, and the results of these strikes. But the most sophisticated, the “secret weapon” that enabled the Russians to impose their supremacy in electronic warfare remains surrounded by mystery.
The formidable Russian system of collecting and processing data also remains enveloped in mystery. These two categories of weapons constitute the C4i complex (command, control, communication, computers, information and interoperability) that the Russians created in Syria. It allows bombing targets to be identified and allocated among the different types of aircraft, while preventing NATO from discovering anything of the Russians’ modus operandi. Lacking even a minimum of information, NATO cannot trigger effective electronic countermeasures (ECM) against the Russians in Syria.
The land, naval and air of electronic warfare equipment that Russia has deployed in the theater of military operations in Syria make it possible to monitor the entire electromagnetic spectrum in order to locate enemy systems and to jam them. Electronic warfare now extends to the jamming of communications, radars and electro-optical monitoring systems. Modern countermeasures equipment, including in the visible, infrared or laser spectrum, uses aerial and space-based electro-optical (IMINT) monitoring to thwart the Russians in annihilating the EI. To protect against NATO reconnaissance, the Russians have deployed several Krasukha-4 in Syria. The Russian Su-24, Su-25, and Su-34 aircraft are equipped with SAP-518 / SPS-171 jamming pods and the Mi-8AMTSh helicopters with Richag-AVs. In addition is the Priazovye ship (Vishnya class), belonging to the Russian Black Sea fleet, which has been deployed in the Mediterranean Sea near the Syrian coast. This vessel specializes in scrambling and in collecting SIGINT and COMINT data (interception of all communication networks).
The Krasukha-4 is a mobile broadband system, mounted on the BAZ-6910-022 8 X 8 chassis, which interferes with the surveillance radars of military satellites, AWACS ground and air radars, and those mounted on unmanned aircraft (drones). The Krasukha-4 is the only system capable of blurring the Lacrosse / Onyx family of American spy satellites. These satellites travel in low orbit and are equipped with SAR (Synthetic Aperture Radar), which allows them to penetrate the cloud layer as well as the ground or the walls of buildings, with a resolution of 20 cm.
What happened as a result of the Russians putting in place such electronic radio warfare equipment in Syria?
The Krasukha-4 system at the Russian air base in Hmeymim (Latakia Governorate) creates an invisibility cloak for objects in the air and on the ground with a radius of 300 km. The Krasukha-4 is capable of “blinding” the detection and guard radars of the MIM-104 Patriot anti-aircraft missiles on the Turkish border, and also the radars of the Turkish F-16C fighter jets taking off from the Incirlik base, thus helping to create a “no-fly zone” over Syria. The Incirlik Air Force Base is located not far from the city of Adana, 140 km north of Latakia.
Under the protection of Krasukha-4 and other interference systems, dozens of Russian aircraft went undetected by NATO as they were flying in and landing in Syria, being discovered only a few days after they had arrived at the Hmeymim air base.
How did the Russian fighters get to Syria without anyone noticing?
As a result of the Russians’ electronic warfare systems, “moderate” Islamist rebels, who were informed by the United States from 2013 onward about all Syrian army movements, had no information about the secret concentration of Syrian troops on the Latakia–Idlib axis (north of Latakia), Latakia–Hama (east of Latakia) and Latakia–Homs.
This allowed the Syrian army, supported by Russian bombers, to launch offensive actions with armored vehicles to take control of the Idlib–Hama–Homs segment of the M5 motorway between Damascus and Aleppo.
Major offensive of the Syrian Army
Recall that in Syria, the Russian army created a surveillance-strike system in which the collection and processing of data is stratified on several levels. The first level of information is for the security units at the billets of Russian troops in Syria (Latakia airport and port of Tartus). This is ensured by 4–6 mini-planes and ZALA-type unmanned helicopters (UAV), ultra-light and silent, powered by an electric motor, with a range of up to 30 kilometers.
To detect targets for medium-range bombing missions, the Russians use 36 unmanned Yakovlev Pchela-1T and Orlan-10 aircraft, and for surveillance of the entire territory of Syria they use Dozor 600 or Altius reconnaissance drones, similar to the American MQ-1B Predator.
For monitoring the entire territory of Syria, the Russians have also deployed ELINT type II-20M1 reconnaissance aircraft equipped with Kvalat-2 radars, which can detect aircraft, land vehicles and artillery pieces Up to a distance of 300 km. The Il-20M1 is also equipped with a system for intercepting and interfering all military communications, radar and mobile telephony, as well as a high-resolution camera (A-87P).[/size]
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Re: Sirija
Tehnika plus 100-150,000 američkih vojnika i u Siriji se rat završi za manje od 14 dana.
Samo s tehnikom? Ne ide, to vidimo svaki dan. Tko može poslati 100-150,000 vojnika u Siriju?
Jedino Amerika, ja nikoga drugog ne vidim osim njih. To će se na kraju i desiti.
Isključimo emocije...
Samo s tehnikom? Ne ide, to vidimo svaki dan. Tko može poslati 100-150,000 vojnika u Siriju?
Jedino Amerika, ja nikoga drugog ne vidim osim njih. To će se na kraju i desiti.
Isključimo emocije...
Eroo- Posts : 78956
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Re: Sirija
Rat se završava ćim isis prestane dobijati streljivo i oružje, logistiku i novac od
svojih patrona. Za to napraviti nije potrebno dovoditi 100-150 000 vojske i zaglaviti
kao u Afganistanu.
Ameri nemaju poziv Sirije da udju vojskom a niti UN niti VS im nisu to odobrili
tako da mogu jedino voditi ovakav hibridi rat za svoje interese.
svojih patrona. Za to napraviti nije potrebno dovoditi 100-150 000 vojske i zaglaviti
kao u Afganistanu.
Ameri nemaju poziv Sirije da udju vojskom a niti UN niti VS im nisu to odobrili
tako da mogu jedino voditi ovakav hibridi rat za svoje interese.
Yehudi- Posts : 14715
2014-04-20
Re: Sirija
Da je mogla ,poslala bi,no preskupo je bilo,pa nisu...To sto si slijep za svu logiku i logicnost,to je vec nes drugo..Eroo wrote:Tehnika plus 100-150,000 američkih vojnika i u Siriji se rat završi za manje od 14 dana.
Samo s tehnikom? Ne ide, to vidimo svaki dan. Tko može poslati 100-150,000 vojnika u Siriju?
Jedino Amerika, ja nikoga drugog ne vidim osim njih. To će se na kraju i desiti.
Isključimo emocije...
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pismejker wrote:Da je mogla ,poslala bi,no preskupo je bilo,pa nisu...To sto si slijep za svu logiku i logicnost,to je vec nes drugo..Eroo wrote:Tehnika plus 100-150,000 američkih vojnika i u Siriji se rat završi za manje od 14 dana.
Samo s tehnikom? Ne ide, to vidimo svaki dan. Tko može poslati 100-150,000 vojnika u Siriju?
Jedino Amerika, ja nikoga drugog ne vidim osim njih. To će se na kraju i desiti.
Isključimo emocije...
A onda ništa, još barem 5 godina mrcvarenja...dok ne iskrvare.
To je ono što ja vidim, a drugi vjerojatno nekakvo "naprijed zastave slave" ili takvo što. Iracionalno u svakom slučaju.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
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Re: Sirija
ma paz ero, nek se isisu zatvori pipa i ovi ostalim dzihadistima a to znaci da i trebalo razjebat glavnog sponzora, saude, rat bi prestao u roku par mjeseci, vec nakom mjesec dana bi se medjusobno poklali za resurseEroo wrote:pismejker wrote:Da je mogla ,poslala bi,no preskupo je bilo,pa nisu...To sto si slijep za svu logiku i logicnost,to je vec nes drugo..Eroo wrote:Tehnika plus 100-150,000 američkih vojnika i u Siriji se rat završi za manje od 14 dana.
Samo s tehnikom? Ne ide, to vidimo svaki dan. Tko može poslati 100-150,000 vojnika u Siriju?
Jedino Amerika, ja nikoga drugog ne vidim osim njih. To će se na kraju i desiti.
Isključimo emocije...
A onda ništa, još barem 5 godina mrcvarenja...dok ne iskrvare.
To je ono što ja vidim, a drugi vjerojatno nekakvo "naprijed zastave slave" ili takvo što. Iracionalno u svakom slučaju.
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Yehudi wrote:Rat se završava ćim isis prestane dobijati streljivo i oružje, logistiku i novac od
svojih patrona. Za to napraviti nije potrebno dovoditi 100-150 000 vojske i zaglaviti
kao u Afganistanu.
Ameri nemaju poziv Sirije da udju vojskom a niti UN niti VS im nisu to odobrili
tako da mogu jedino voditi ovakav hibridi rat za svoje interese.
Ma ko te pita. Ko je zvao Ruse na Krim i Donbas? Amere na Kosovo?
Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
Re: Sirija
To je "kad bi", a i u tom slučaju bi imali posla za nekoliko godina. Svejedno, a tko bi to mogao učinit?Leviathan2 wrote:ma paz ero, nek se isisu zatvori pipa i ovi ostalim dzihadistima a to znaci da i trebalo razjebat glavnog sponzora, saude, rat bi prestao u roku par mjeseci, vec nakom mjesec dana bi se medjusobno poklali za resurseEroo wrote:pismejker wrote:Da je mogla ,poslala bi,no preskupo je bilo,pa nisu...To sto si slijep za svu logiku i logicnost,to je vec nes drugo..Eroo wrote:Tehnika plus 100-150,000 američkih vojnika i u Siriji se rat završi za manje od 14 dana.
Samo s tehnikom? Ne ide, to vidimo svaki dan. Tko može poslati 100-150,000 vojnika u Siriju?
Jedino Amerika, ja nikoga drugog ne vidim osim njih. To će se na kraju i desiti.
Isključimo emocije...
A onda ništa, još barem 5 godina mrcvarenja...dok ne iskrvare.
To je ono što ja vidim, a drugi vjerojatno nekakvo "naprijed zastave slave" ili takvo što. Iracionalno u svakom slučaju.
Asadaova i iračka vojska, koja ne postoji? Jbote, tu se više ne zna tko koga lupa...Svi su do sada
"trenirali" silu na ovom području, ali se stanje nije promijenilo ni za jotu...
Amere će platit Saudi, kao i uvijek ...i to je to.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
Re: Sirija
Ma jasno.Leviathan2 wrote:kak kazu stari ljudi, sila boga ne moli
Uvjetno rečeno, lako će biti strance Isilovce izbacit iz Sirije i Iraka, ali to nije sve...Šta je rješenje?
Ja mislim da će na koncu doći do podjele i Sirije i Iraka, jer ne postoje domaće sile koje bi ih ponovo udružile u jednu državu.
Alawita u Siriji, kao i Šiita u Iraku, je premalo za to, a ne vidim nikoga tko bi ih svojim novcem podržavao u nedogled.
Najmanje je onih tko bi im jamčio jedinstvo svojim životima. Takvih nema čak ni među samim Arapima.
Uostalom svi su u qrtzu, da prostiš. Rusi? Već sada imaju ono što im treba, a za ostalo se im jebe.
Eroo- Posts : 78956
2016-07-22
Re: Sirija
eno sad se ide na istocnu Gutu,ti dzepovi oko Damaska ce se sjebati vrlo brzo,Al bab i ogroman komad teritorije koji se nasao u nepovoljnom polozaju ce pasti,samo je pitanje vremena iako glupi Turci neznaju ratovati pa cak i bombarduju sami sebe.Raka isto u banani,a kad se rijese dzepovi oko Damaska Idlib ce biti sljedeci na redu i to je to.kasnije ce Rusi morati turke stisnuti za muda da se povuku iz Sirije,Kurdi ce dobiti neku autonomiju i svi sretni.
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Re: Sirija
Ko? Bez Amera nema tačke. Oni će doći tik pred sam kraj. Stara škola...slična onoj u ww2.Ground Biscuits wrote:kakvih crnih 5 godina,ove godine ce na Siriju biti stavljena tacka
Pravilo je za policiju da se ,kad je velika tuča u pitanju, ne umiješa odmah, već kad bojdžijama ponestane snage i volje za tuču...
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