ISRAEL

von_Starhemberg wrote:

nisam  razumio bas,ali napadi ukratno valjda
nsita cudno psoto zidovi su postali poput zvijeri danas,samo moc,oruzje itd,zaboravljaju kako su egipcani zavrsili u Mojsijevo doba,sami su kuhali sami ce kusati kaznu

von_Starhemberg wrote:

nisam  razumio bas,ali napadi ukratno valjda
nsita cudno psoto zidovi su postali poput zvijeri danas,samo moc,oruzje itd,zaboravljaju kako su egipcani zavrsili u Mojsijevo doba,sami su kuhali sami ce kusati kaznu

Yehudi wrote:

ne bihse slozio,jer to nije kaznjavanje onih koji su sipalili rakete na izrael dakle zlocinaca,ovo je ubijanje nevinih ljudi a oni krivi ce se izvuci
sa moje strane gleanja na to mislim da nece biti kaznjeni napadaci ni sa jedne strane,da obje strane samo ubijaju civile,da i izrael i hamas ubijaju nevine,ukratko da svi ti koji imaju oruzje sluze necastivog,ukratko i da su Izrael i Hamas protiv Boga
mozda posaljem Oluju na Izrael,vjerojatno,jer ne kaznjavaju zlocince nego ciste podrucje i nevazno im je da li nevini budu ubijeni,a to je lose
dakle ja ne podrzavam niti Izrael niti Hamas,dakle nijedne ubojice sa obje strane,jer ubojice sluze Sotonu,vraga,Lucifera

Bezrezervna podrška Izraelu!

Mad_Vlad wrote:Bezrezervna podrška Izraelu!

to ti je prilicno blesava izjava,ali posto je od tebe nsita novo
dakle da si rekao da je izrael skrsio ono koji su poslali rakete,dakle te ubojice to bi bilo u redu i to bi podrzav

ali bezrezervna podrska znaci i kada se ubijaju,civili nevini,e to je vec drugo to je zlocin protiv tih ljudi i protiv Boga
dakle izrael je vojno mocan,vjerom beznacajan,dakle na strani necastivog

ako nisi shvatio nije cilj tamo da se skrse niti sa jedne strane oni losi ljudi dakle niti oni koji su ispalili rakete niti oni koji su sada napali,cilj je ubijanje nevinih civila,to je cilj tamo i ne samo tamo,a zasto pa jednostavno ti koji su ispalili rakete i izraelki duznosnici svi oni imaju istoga oca-necastivog,bboli njih kiki kako bise reklo za druge,oni ce i dalje zivjeti a civili ce umirati,to su sluge sotone,vraga,Lucifera,a cilj je ubijanje nevinih sasvih strana,jer onaj vjeran Bogu nece ubijati a onaj nevjereran taj ce uvijati civile i nemati mislisti

dakle poserem se na tvoju izjavu,jer si i sam sluga necastivog

Marš smradu ogavni

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The Truth about GazaThe Truth about Gaza
Israel is using missile defense to protect its civilians and Hamas is using their civilians to protect their missiles.
by Charles Krauthammer
Israel accepts an Egyptian-proposed Gaza cease-fire; Hamas keeps firing. Hamas deliberately aims rockets at civilians; Israel painstakingly tries to avoid them, actually telephoning civilians in the area and dropping warning charges, so-called roof knocking.
'Here's the difference between us," explains the Israeli prime minister. 'We're using missile defense to protect our civilians and they're using their civilians to protect their missiles."
Rarely does international politics present a moment of such moral clarity. Yet we routinely hear this Israel-Gaza fighting described as a morally equivalent "cycle of violence." This is absurd. What possible interest can Israel have in cross-border fighting? Everyone knows Hamas set off this mini-war. And everyone knows Hamas' proudly self-declared raison d'etre: the eradication of Israel and its Jews.
Apologists for Hamas attribute the bloodlust to the Israeli occupation and blockade. Occupation? There is not a soldier, not a settler, not a single Israeli in Gaza. Does no one remember anything? It was less than 10 years ago that worldwide television showed the Israeli army pulling diehard settlers off synagogue roofs in Gaza as Israel uprooted it settlements, expelled its citizens, withdrew its military and turned every inch of Gaza over to the Palestinians.
There was no blockade. On the contrary. Israel wanted this new Palestinian state to succeed. To help the Gaza economy, Israel gave the Palestinians its 3,000 greenhouses that had produced fruit and flowers for export. It opened border crossings and encouraged commerce.
The whole idea was to establish the model for two states living peacefully and productively side by side. No one seems to remember that simultaneous with the Gaza withdrawal, Israel dismantled four smaller settlements in the northern West Bank as a clear signal of Israel's desire to leave the West Bank too and thus achieve an amicable two-state solution.
And how did the Gaza Palestinians react to being granted by the Israelis what no previous ruler, neither Egyptian, nor British, nor Turkish, had ever given them – an independent territory? First, they demolished the greenhouses. Then they elected Hamas. Then, instead of building a state with its attendant political and economic institutions, they spent the better part of a decade turning Gaza into a massive military base, brimming with terror weapons, to make ceaseless war on Israel.
Where are the roads and rail, the industry and infrastructure of the new Palestinian state? Nowhere. Instead, they built mile upon mile of underground tunnels to hide their weapons and, when the going gets tough, their military commanders. They spent millions importing and producing rockets, launchers, mortars, small arms, even drones. They deliberately placed them in schools, hospitals, mosques and private homes to better expose their own civilians. And from which they fire rockets at Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
Why? The rockets can't even inflict serious damage, being almost uniformly intercepted by Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile system. Even West Bank leader Mahmoud Abbas has asked: "What are you trying to achieve by sending rockets?"
In a world of such Kafkaesque ethical inversions, Hamas' depravity begins to make sense.
It makes no sense. Unless you understand, as a Washington Post editorial explained, that the whole point is to draw Israeli counterfire.
This produces dead Palestinians for international television. Which is why Hamas perversely urges its own people not to seek safety when Israel drops leaflets warning of an imminent attack.
To deliberately wage war so that your own people can be telegenically killed is indeed moral and tactical insanity. But it rests on a very rational premise: Given the Orwellian state of the world's treatment of Israel (see: the U.N.'s grotesque Human Rights Council), fueled by a mix of classic anti-Semitism, near-total historical ignorance and reflexive sympathy for the ostensible Third World underdog, these eruptions featuring Palestinian casualties ultimately undermine support for Israel's legitimacy and right to self-defense.
In a world of such Kafkaesque ethical inversions, Hamas' depravity begins to make sense. This is a world in which the Munich massacre is a movie and the murder of Klinghoffer is an opera – both deeply sympathetic to the killers. This is a world in which the U.N. ignores humanity's worst war criminals while incessantly condemning Israel, a state warred upon for 66 years which nonetheless goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid harming the very innocents its enemies use as shields.
It's to the Israelis' credit that amid all this madness they haven't lost their moral scruples. Or their nerve. Those outside the region have the minimum obligation, therefore, to expose the madness and speak the truth. Rarely has it been so blindingly clear.
This op-ed originally appeared in the Washington Post.

Dakle,Israel ima full support od Njemacke...kao i katolicke i evangelisticke Crkve u istoj.. THX..podrska se ne zaboravlja.. 

Svetac, aj molimte, pogledaj pod kojim obrazloženjem sam baniran tamo na netaeru. Hvala.

Na ovon forumu ima najviše dva hrvata, dva jugoslvena, jedan srbin, jedan švabo, jedan polubog i čak tri židova:)

Yehudi wrote:Svetac, aj molimte, pogledaj pod kojim obrazloženjem sam baniran tamo na netaeru. Hvala.

Pogledam Yeh..nista me ne moze zacuditi...4-5 teskih kompleksasa,koji ocekuju da im mazis njihove stavove,u suprotnom si nesto drugo...Mozda ne znaju,ali bi mogli doznati,kako je negiranje necije nacionalne pripadnosti kaznjvo zakonom...no nisu vrijedni toga,pa ima sam ovalja bacati smece u dvoriste.. 

aben wrote:Na ovon forumu ima najviše dva hrvata, dva jugoslvena, jedan srbin, jedan švabo, jedan polubog i čak tri židova:)

Ebo te...  izgleda da je dobar recept za uljudjeni i ugodan Forum..

Yehudi,nisam nasao na obavjesti admina nista... mozda da das link...

Izrael provodi genocid na Palestincima 
Ostalo su... Lupetanja

RayMabus wrote:

omni wrote:Samo nek se kolju, ebat ih sviju grupno, sto ih je manje svijet je ljepsi. Ti prostori su ionako izvor mnogih zala na planeti. Napravit umjetno jezero za ptice, ribe i ostala normalna bica.

Dok ne bude trista mrtvih Palestinaca nece se zaustavit. To je taj omjer da znaju za ubuduce šta se dešava kad ubiju nekog njihovog.

Je ti znaš o broju mrtvih 
Iz prve ruke ...  :spear:

Sora wrote:Izrael provodi genocid na Palestincima 
Ostalo su... Lupetanja

dakle,ne lupetaj....ocito ne znas za pomore po Africi koje sprovode islamsticka ghamad...tu sutis kao pizdra...