Švedska epidemiologinja se predomislila: Vlasti su trebale uvesti strožije mjere

Leviathan2 wrote:frka vakseri , frka a?
bolje vam je da se namjerno zarazite i rjesite straha,
ko prezivi pricat ce :D

Legendovich wrote:

Leviathan2 wrote:frka vakseri , frka a?
bolje vam je da se namjerno zarazite i rjesite straha,
ko prezivi pricat ce :D

ima neshto i u tome..skrivati se po pecinama...pa ne mosh vjecito,a bilanca da trpi..

Noor wrote:

kaya wrote:

Noor wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Legendovich wrote:
nema uopce imuniteta ako(a hoce ) u medjuvremenu viruz mutira..Gnječo je stavi grafikon mutacija i novih sojeva.TO se vise ne da pratiti,a kamoli izraditi vakcinu koja bi bila uspjesna..prouci spanjolsku gripu i njenu evoluciju tijekom par godina,i sve ce ti se logicno prikazati..do danas sve je identicno u slucaju Korona viruza..isto tako prvi val spanjolske gripe je bio prilicno blag i sa minimalno zrtava,no u drugom su navalile druge mutacije,i onda je krenulo stvarno zlo..treci je dotukao sto drugi nije ili je načeo..

Gnječ i Noorka su pričali kako nema ni antitijela...

to i nije točno, ja sam pisala sljedeće...ako je u organizmu osobe koja se oporavila od covid-19 nađeno vrlo malo antitijela (ispod 500 titara, što imunolozi kažu da je nedovoljno za zaštitu), kako je ta osoba usprkos toga ozdravila otprilike jednako brzo kao i one koje su imale puno više razvijenih antitijela?

ali, potpuno nebitno...vidjet ćemo na jesen.
ili nećemo vidjeti ništa.

Tijelo kada otkrije virus ili nekog napadača aktivira imuni odgovor. Taj odgovor je urođeni ( na primjer temperatura) a ako ne pali onda ima čitav niz pametnijih odgovora kojima ometa ili ubija napadača. Antitijela su samo ostatak neke obrane. Ako ih nema puno a osoba je ozdravila ili ih uopće nema, branila se nečim drugim.
Zato neki imaju malo antitijela ili više ili ništa a svi su ozdravili. Nečim se brane samo moraju otkriti točno s kojim sistemom...

u svakom slučaju imunoglobulinima, samo ne provode se testiranja na sve njih.

imunoglobulini (antitijela) su proteinske molekule koje imunološki sustav stvara kao reakciju na ulazak antigena u organizam.
postoji 5 razreda imunoglobulina, IgA, IgM, IgG, IgE i IgD, a neki imaju i svoje izotipove, tak da pitaj Boga koji šamara koronu kod ovih atipičnih

Leviathan2 wrote:

Legendovich wrote:

Leviathan2 wrote:frka vakseri , frka a?
bolje vam je da se namjerno zarazite i rjesite straha,
ko prezivi pricat ce :D

ima neshto i u tome..skrivati se po pecinama...pa ne mosh vjecito,a bilanca da trpi..

pa da, nema smisla skrivat se, kad tad moras izaci a onda cap
ovako rjesis brigu jedared za svagda ko ja

Noor wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Noor wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Noor wrote:
to i nije točno, ja sam pisala sljedeće...ako je u organizmu osobe koja se oporavila od covid-19 nađeno vrlo malo antitijela (ispod 500 titara, što imunolozi kažu da je nedovoljno za zaštitu), kako je ta osoba usprkos toga ozdravila otprilike jednako brzo kao i one koje su imale puno više razvijenih antitijela?

ali, potpuno nebitno...vidjet ćemo na jesen.
ili nećemo vidjeti ništa.

mučki provokator, vadi iz konteksta i još k tomu i laže 

 

Ništa nisam lagao, napisala si sama da je svaki put kao da je prvi, a kod žena je samo jedan put prvi, a svakinostali put je drugi put.  

jesam, jer antitijela kod tih testiranih ima PREMALO, što znači da te vjerojatno neće moći štititi....a nakon mutacije je garancija da će te išta štititi ravna nuli.
zato, svaki puta kao da je prvi
ček malo..pa jel covid nije gripa, kod koje također ne razvijaš imunitet (antitijela)?

tre wrote:

Leviathan2 wrote:

Legendovich wrote:

Leviathan2 wrote:frka vakseri , frka a?
bolje vam je da se namjerno zarazite i rjesite straha,
ko prezivi pricat ce :D

ima neshto i u tome..skrivati se po pecinama...pa ne mosh vjecito,a bilanca da trpi..

pa da, nema smisla skrivat se, kad tad moras izaci a onda cap
ovako rjesis brigu jedared za svagda ko ja

ti kao kuma kad se vozila s kumom u autu i govorila mu kako se boji da će je on napasti i opaliti. Kum je par puta razuvjeravao dok kuma nije rekla; aj ti kume mene opali pa da se ja više ne bojim!!

mutava baštarda wrote: 
Nije isto kada te gripa ulovi prvi put ili deseti...
Ovaj virus je manje opasan u tome jer sporije mutira...

Legendovich wrote:

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Tuesday, 26.05.2020, 06:32
Who was once suffering from Covid-19 and the infection has passed, can not develop once again. Or? A lot of Knowledge, there is not in the current pandemic, for which many assumptions. What do we know and what is not.
The emergency relief coordinator of the world health organization (WHO) is skeptical that the new Coronavirus can be eliminated according to the rapid spread around the globe yet. "This Virus can be in the population at home, it may be that it never disappears more and more," said Michael Ryan in mid-may in Geneva.
Unlike the seasonal flu, there are against Sars-CoV-2, to date, no vaccination. Researchers expect to see a vaccine for at least several months. So far, the Corona-therapy is limited principally to the relieving of the symptoms.


Increasingly, therefore, the question of the possible immunity after surviving Covid-19-disease. It was in the past a few skeptics, most scientists today agree that a person to the disease, at least for a time, immune to Sars-CoV-2. Because in the course of an infection, the immune system of a people is, among other things, antibodies to combat the invading pathogens.

• All the news about the Sars-CoV-2-pandemic read in the News-Ticker of FOCUS Online.
  

Reaction of the body: the immune system responds to Sars-CoV-2

When someone infected with Sars-CoV-2, to dock the Virus to so-called ACE2 receptors. It multiplies in the cells of the body, causing the immune system is alerted. First, the innate (nonspecific) responds to immune defense, as soon as you recognize the harmful pathogens. "In this Moment, decides, whether there is any significant disease or not, "explains Thomas Löscher, an Internist and infectious disease Loge from the professional Association of German internists (BDI).
The immune system is strong, it fights the virus successfully and the person Concerned shows only mild or no symptoms of the disease. A weak immune system prevents the virus replication is not sufficient. A serious or even critical progression to pneumonia or multi-organ consequences of failure. The immune system works, the acquired (specific) immune system works to get rid of the disease pathogen again.
The older people become, the less active the innate defense is, your cells respond less strongly. At the same time the immune memory does not work so well. "The immune system in old age, forgetful that we know of vaccinations," adds Virologist Ulrike Protzer, Institute Director of the Institute for Virology at the Helmholtz Zentrum München. Chronic viral infections can the age-related changes of the immune system accelerate.

At the latest after ten days, the body developed specific Sars-CoV-2-immune system

In healthy or young people but was: "After about a week to ten days, the body develops a specific immune response to the Coronavirus," describes infections Lodge of the quencher, which is also the first patient in Munich managed, the way to immunity.
The organism is now so immune cells specifically targeted against this Virus. With these antibodies and the cellular immune response has been learned of the Infected so, with the exciter off. Who has made a Coronavirus infection, therefore, is immune first.
"How long this immunity lasts, and whether it remains a life-long, we don't know yet," explains the Professor. It is one of the many still unsolved questions.

kaya wrote:Sad ću ja na engleskom čitati medicinu baš..
A vjerojatno nemaš pojma što piše, ja bi čak i znala al mi se neda.

prckov wrote:

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Our immune system forms within a few days, specific antibodies to the Sars-CoV-2 attack.

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  FOCUS-Online-editor Jasmine Larmache
  
  
  
  

Tuesday, 26.05.2020, 06:32
Who was once suffering from Covid-19 and the infection has passed, can not develop once again. Or? A lot of Knowledge, there is not in the current pandemic, for which many assumptions. What do we know and what is not.
The emergency relief coordinator of the world health organization (WHO) is skeptical that the new Coronavirus can be eliminated according to the rapid spread around the globe yet. "This Virus can be in the population at home, it may be that it never disappears more and more," said Michael Ryan in mid-may in Geneva.
Unlike the seasonal flu, there are against Sars-CoV-2, to date, no vaccination. Researchers expect to see a vaccine for at least several months. So far, the Corona-therapy is limited principally to the relieving of the symptoms.


Increasingly, therefore, the question of the possible immunity after surviving Covid-19-disease. It was in the past a few skeptics, most scientists today agree that a person to the disease, at least for a time, immune to Sars-CoV-2. Because in the course of an infection, the immune system of a people is, among other things, antibodies to combat the invading pathogens.

• All the news about the Sars-CoV-2-pandemic read in the News-Ticker of FOCUS Online.
  

Reaction of the body: the immune system responds to Sars-CoV-2

When someone infected with Sars-CoV-2, to dock the Virus to so-called ACE2 receptors. It multiplies in the cells of the body, causing the immune system is alerted. First, the innate (nonspecific) responds to immune defense, as soon as you recognize the harmful pathogens. "In this Moment, decides, whether there is any significant disease or not, "explains Thomas Löscher, an Internist and infectious disease Loge from the professional Association of German internists (BDI).
The immune system is strong, it fights the virus successfully and the person Concerned shows only mild or no symptoms of the disease. A weak immune system prevents the virus replication is not sufficient. A serious or even critical progression to pneumonia or multi-organ consequences of failure. The immune system works, the acquired (specific) immune system works to get rid of the disease pathogen again.
The older people become, the less active the innate defense is, your cells respond less strongly. At the same time the immune memory does not work so well. "The immune system in old age, forgetful that we know of vaccinations," adds Virologist Ulrike Protzer, Institute Director of the Institute for Virology at the Helmholtz Zentrum München. Chronic viral infections can the age-related changes of the immune system accelerate.

At the latest after ten days, the body developed specific Sars-CoV-2-immune system

In healthy or young people but was: "After about a week to ten days, the body develops a specific immune response to the Coronavirus," describes infections Lodge of the quencher, which is also the first patient in Munich managed, the way to immunity.
The organism is now so immune cells specifically targeted against this Virus. With these antibodies and the cellular immune response has been learned of the Infected so, with the exciter off. Who has made a Coronavirus infection, therefore, is immune first.
"How long this immunity lasts, and whether it remains a life-long, we don't know yet," explains the Professor. It is one of the many still unsolved questions.

jebate vid ovog engleskog   
ko da ga je skurcem preveo 
al vazno je da krele glumi emgleza, to sto prevod veze s mozgom nema who cares 
mislim, mogo je ljigavc to prevest na hrvatski kad vec prevodi sa valjdanjemackog, al onda nije cool jebesga 

Legendovich wrote:

prckov wrote:

Legendovich wrote:

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Our immune system forms within a few days, specific antibodies to the Sars-CoV-2 attack.

• 
  FOCUS-Online-editor Jasmine Larmache
  
  
  
  

Tuesday, 26.05.2020, 06:32
Who was once suffering from Covid-19 and the infection has passed, can not develop once again. Or? A lot of Knowledge, there is not in the current pandemic, for which many assumptions. What do we know and what is not.
The emergency relief coordinator of the world health organization (WHO) is skeptical that the new Coronavirus can be eliminated according to the rapid spread around the globe yet. "This Virus can be in the population at home, it may be that it never disappears more and more," said Michael Ryan in mid-may in Geneva.
Unlike the seasonal flu, there are against Sars-CoV-2, to date, no vaccination. Researchers expect to see a vaccine for at least several months. So far, the Corona-therapy is limited principally to the relieving of the symptoms.


Increasingly, therefore, the question of the possible immunity after surviving Covid-19-disease. It was in the past a few skeptics, most scientists today agree that a person to the disease, at least for a time, immune to Sars-CoV-2. Because in the course of an infection, the immune system of a people is, among other things, antibodies to combat the invading pathogens.

• All the news about the Sars-CoV-2-pandemic read in the News-Ticker of FOCUS Online.
  

Reaction of the body: the immune system responds to Sars-CoV-2

When someone infected with Sars-CoV-2, to dock the Virus to so-called ACE2 receptors. It multiplies in the cells of the body, causing the immune system is alerted. First, the innate (nonspecific) responds to immune defense, as soon as you recognize the harmful pathogens. "In this Moment, decides, whether there is any significant disease or not, "explains Thomas Löscher, an Internist and infectious disease Loge from the professional Association of German internists (BDI).
The immune system is strong, it fights the virus successfully and the person Concerned shows only mild or no symptoms of the disease. A weak immune system prevents the virus replication is not sufficient. A serious or even critical progression to pneumonia or multi-organ consequences of failure. The immune system works, the acquired (specific) immune system works to get rid of the disease pathogen again.
The older people become, the less active the innate defense is, your cells respond less strongly. At the same time the immune memory does not work so well. "The immune system in old age, forgetful that we know of vaccinations," adds Virologist Ulrike Protzer, Institute Director of the Institute for Virology at the Helmholtz Zentrum München. Chronic viral infections can the age-related changes of the immune system accelerate.

At the latest after ten days, the body developed specific Sars-CoV-2-immune system

In healthy or young people but was: "After about a week to ten days, the body develops a specific immune response to the Coronavirus," describes infections Lodge of the quencher, which is also the first patient in Munich managed, the way to immunity.
The organism is now so immune cells specifically targeted against this Virus. With these antibodies and the cellular immune response has been learned of the Infected so, with the exciter off. Who has made a Coronavirus infection, therefore, is immune first.
"How long this immunity lasts, and whether it remains a life-long, we don't know yet," explains the Professor. It is one of the many still unsolved questions.

jebate vid ovog engleskog   
ko da ga je skurcem preveo 
al vazno je da krele glumi emgleza, to sto prevod veze s mozgom nema who cares 
mislim, mogo je ljigavc to prevest na hrvatski kad vec prevodi sa valjdanjemackog, al onda nije cool jebesga 

ajd mars u pizdu materinu..jel sam ti rekao da Preglednik to automatski prevodi..??I za koga da prevodim ,za usranog bosanca,koji kao misli da je popio svu pamet svijet..prevodi sam ako hoces..budalo..

prckov wrote:

Legendovich wrote:

prckov wrote:

Legendovich wrote:

[size=16]What we know - and what is not, antibodies, T-cells, cross-reactivity: The big Corona-immunity-puzzles
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Our immune system forms within a few days, specific antibodies to the Sars-CoV-2 attack.

• 
  FOCUS-Online-editor Jasmine Larmache
  
  
  
  

Tuesday, 26.05.2020, 06:32
Who was once suffering from Covid-19 and the infection has passed, can not develop once again. Or? A lot of Knowledge, there is not in the current pandemic, for which many assumptions. What do we know and what is not.
The emergency relief coordinator of the world health organization (WHO) is skeptical that the new Coronavirus can be eliminated according to the rapid spread around the globe yet. "This Virus can be in the population at home, it may be that it never disappears more and more," said Michael Ryan in mid-may in Geneva.
Unlike the seasonal flu, there are against Sars-CoV-2, to date, no vaccination. Researchers expect to see a vaccine for at least several months. So far, the Corona-therapy is limited principally to the relieving of the symptoms.


Increasingly, therefore, the question of the possible immunity after surviving Covid-19-disease. It was in the past a few skeptics, most scientists today agree that a person to the disease, at least for a time, immune to Sars-CoV-2. Because in the course of an infection, the immune system of a people is, among other things, antibodies to combat the invading pathogens.

• All the news about the Sars-CoV-2-pandemic read in the News-Ticker of FOCUS Online.
  

Reaction of the body: the immune system responds to Sars-CoV-2

When someone infected with Sars-CoV-2, to dock the Virus to so-called ACE2 receptors. It multiplies in the cells of the body, causing the immune system is alerted. First, the innate (nonspecific) responds to immune defense, as soon as you recognize the harmful pathogens. "In this Moment, decides, whether there is any significant disease or not, "explains Thomas Löscher, an Internist and infectious disease Loge from the professional Association of German internists (BDI).
The immune system is strong, it fights the virus successfully and the person Concerned shows only mild or no symptoms of the disease. A weak immune system prevents the virus replication is not sufficient. A serious or even critical progression to pneumonia or multi-organ consequences of failure. The immune system works, the acquired (specific) immune system works to get rid of the disease pathogen again.
The older people become, the less active the innate defense is, your cells respond less strongly. At the same time the immune memory does not work so well. "The immune system in old age, forgetful that we know of vaccinations," adds Virologist Ulrike Protzer, Institute Director of the Institute for Virology at the Helmholtz Zentrum München. Chronic viral infections can the age-related changes of the immune system accelerate.

At the latest after ten days, the body developed specific Sars-CoV-2-immune system

In healthy or young people but was: "After about a week to ten days, the body develops a specific immune response to the Coronavirus," describes infections Lodge of the quencher, which is also the first patient in Munich managed, the way to immunity.
The organism is now so immune cells specifically targeted against this Virus. With these antibodies and the cellular immune response has been learned of the Infected so, with the exciter off. Who has made a Coronavirus infection, therefore, is immune first.
"How long this immunity lasts, and whether it remains a life-long, we don't know yet," explains the Professor. It is one of the many still unsolved questions.

jebate vid ovog engleskog   
ko da ga je skurcem preveo 
al vazno je da krele glumi emgleza, to sto prevod veze s mozgom nema who cares 
mislim, mogo je ljigavc to prevest na hrvatski kad vec prevodi sa valjdanjemackog, al onda nije cool jebesga 

ajd mars u pizdu materinu..jel sam ti rekao da Preglednik to automatski prevodi..??I za koga da prevodim ,za usranog bosanca,koji kao misli da je popio svu pamet svijet..prevodi sam ako hoces..budalo..

pa stavi na njemacki
ionako ovo sto si stavio samo budala koja pojma sa engleskim moze zaljepit
majmune iskopleksirani  

prckov wrote:a jedino sto takva ljigava kreatura u stvarnosti moze jebat je njegova mama ili sestra ako se smiluju na jadu  

Legendovich wrote:

prckov wrote:

Legendovich wrote:

prckov wrote:

Legendovich wrote:

[size=16]What we know - and what is not, antibodies, T-cells, cross-reactivity: The big Corona-immunity-puzzles
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Getty Images/iStockphoto/Design Cells -

Our immune system forms within a few days, specific antibodies to the Sars-CoV-2 attack.

• 
  FOCUS-Online-editor Jasmine Larmache
  
  
  
  

Tuesday, 26.05.2020, 06:32
Who was once suffering from Covid-19 and the infection has passed, can not develop once again. Or? A lot of Knowledge, there is not in the current pandemic, for which many assumptions. What do we know and what is not.
The emergency relief coordinator of the world health organization (WHO) is skeptical that the new Coronavirus can be eliminated according to the rapid spread around the globe yet. "This Virus can be in the population at home, it may be that it never disappears more and more," said Michael Ryan in mid-may in Geneva.
Unlike the seasonal flu, there are against Sars-CoV-2, to date, no vaccination. Researchers expect to see a vaccine for at least several months. So far, the Corona-therapy is limited principally to the relieving of the symptoms.


Increasingly, therefore, the question of the possible immunity after surviving Covid-19-disease. It was in the past a few skeptics, most scientists today agree that a person to the disease, at least for a time, immune to Sars-CoV-2. Because in the course of an infection, the immune system of a people is, among other things, antibodies to combat the invading pathogens.

• All the news about the Sars-CoV-2-pandemic read in the News-Ticker of FOCUS Online.
  

Reaction of the body: the immune system responds to Sars-CoV-2

When someone infected with Sars-CoV-2, to dock the Virus to so-called ACE2 receptors. It multiplies in the cells of the body, causing the immune system is alerted. First, the innate (nonspecific) responds to immune defense, as soon as you recognize the harmful pathogens. "In this Moment, decides, whether there is any significant disease or not, "explains Thomas Löscher, an Internist and infectious disease Loge from the professional Association of German internists (BDI).
The immune system is strong, it fights the virus successfully and the person Concerned shows only mild or no symptoms of the disease. A weak immune system prevents the virus replication is not sufficient. A serious or even critical progression to pneumonia or multi-organ consequences of failure. The immune system works, the acquired (specific) immune system works to get rid of the disease pathogen again.
The older people become, the less active the innate defense is, your cells respond less strongly. At the same time the immune memory does not work so well. "The immune system in old age, forgetful that we know of vaccinations," adds Virologist Ulrike Protzer, Institute Director of the Institute for Virology at the Helmholtz Zentrum München. Chronic viral infections can the age-related changes of the immune system accelerate.

At the latest after ten days, the body developed specific Sars-CoV-2-immune system

In healthy or young people but was: "After about a week to ten days, the body develops a specific immune response to the Coronavirus," describes infections Lodge of the quencher, which is also the first patient in Munich managed, the way to immunity.
The organism is now so immune cells specifically targeted against this Virus. With these antibodies and the cellular immune response has been learned of the Infected so, with the exciter off. Who has made a Coronavirus infection, therefore, is immune first.
"How long this immunity lasts, and whether it remains a life-long, we don't know yet," explains the Professor. It is one of the many still unsolved questions.

jebate vid ovog engleskog   
ko da ga je skurcem preveo 
al vazno je da krele glumi emgleza, to sto prevod veze s mozgom nema who cares 
mislim, mogo je ljigavc to prevest na hrvatski kad vec prevodi sa valjdanjemackog, al onda nije cool jebesga 

ajd mars u pizdu materinu..jel sam ti rekao da Preglednik to automatski prevodi..??I za koga da prevodim ,za usranog bosanca,koji kao misli da je popio svu pamet svijet..prevodi sam ako hoces..budalo..

pa stavi na njemacki
ionako ovo sto si stavio samo budala koja pojma sa engleskim moze zaljepit
majmune iskopleksirani  

Pa kretenu jedna,da se umna Kaya josh vise zbuni??...a i ti...

Legendovich wrote:

prckov wrote:a jedino sto takva ljigava kreatura u stvarnosti moze jebat je njegova mama ili sestra ako se smiluju na jadu  

kćeru ja tebi pojebem...ufffff....

prckov wrote:

Legendovich wrote:

prckov wrote:a jedino sto takva ljigava kreatura u stvarnosti moze jebat je njegova mama ili sestra ako se smiluju na jadu  

kćeru ja tebi pojebem...ufffff....

btw uskoro cu te nac
to sam ti zaboravio rec