Re: Denkverbot

by Guest 10/4/2020, 22:34

aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:

uskrs je uzrok praznicima

prije ili nakon vjere?
kako to misliš?

šta ima veze kako to mislim. ? jel će to utjecati na tvoj odgovor?
naravski, ako ne razumin pitanjhe, odgovora ne će ni biti

pitanje je jednostavno i jasno čak i onima kojima je IQ ispod tavana.

by aben 10/4/2020, 22:52

Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:

prije ili nakon vjere?
kako to misliš?

šta ima veze kako to mislim. ? jel će to utjecati na tvoj odgovor?
naravski, ako ne razumin pitanjhe, odgovora ne će ni biti

pitanje je jednostavno i jasno čak i onima kojima je IQ ispod tavana.

svejedno, utjecati će

by Guest 10/4/2020, 23:55

aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
kako to misliš?

šta ima veze kako to mislim. ? jel će to utjecati na tvoj odgovor?
naravski, ako ne razumin pitanjhe, odgovora ne će ni biti

pitanje je jednostavno i jasno čak i onima kojima je IQ ispod tavana.

svejedno, utjecati će

u kom smislu?

by Guest 11/4/2020, 03:04

violator wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
violator wrote:
Gnječ wrote:možda bude zanimalo koga pa samo da stavim link nešto novo otkriveno ovih dana

We may have spotted a parallel universe going backwards in time
Strange particles observed by an experiment in Antarctica could be evidence of an alternative reality where everything is upside down

IN THE Antarctic, things happen at a glacial pace. Just ask Peter Gorham. For a month at a time, he and his colleagues would watch a giant balloon carrying a collection of antennas float high above the ice, scanning over a million square kilometres of the frozen landscape for evidence of high-energy particles arriving from space.

When the experiment returned to the ground after its first flight, it had nothing to show for itself, bar the odd flash of background noise. It was the same story after the second flight more than a year later.

While the balloon was in the sky for the third time, the researchers decided to go over the past data again, particularly those signals dismissed as noise. It was lucky they did. Examined more carefully, one signal seemed to be the signature of a high-energy particle. But it wasn’t what they were looking for. Moreover, it seemed impossible. Rather than bearing down from above, this particle was exploding out of the ground.

That strange finding was made in 2016. Since then, all sorts of suggestions rooted in known physics have been put forward to account for the perplexing signal, and all have been ruled out. What’s left is shocking in its implications. Explaining this signal requires the existence of a topsy-turvy universe created in the same big bang as our own and existing in parallel with it. In this mirror world, positive is negative, left is right and time runs backwards. It is perhaps the most mind-melting idea ever to have emerged from the Antarctic ice – but it might just be true. …

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24532770-400-we-may-have-spotted-a-parallel-universe-going-backwards-in-time/

Ukucaj "axis of evil" + cosmology

Nema veze s ovim, ali jako zanimljivo otkrice koje moze potpuno nastetiti teoriji Velikog praska, a moze biti - nista. Kozmicka osovina. Malo podsjeca i na "stablo zivota" mitoloskih prica razlicitih naroda

tnx. našao. budem pročitao možda ima neke veze s ovim.

Pa nisam sigurna da ima... Ali jednako je revolucionarno, ako pretpostavimo da su oba otkrica to sto se cini da jesu...

Kozmicka os dovodi u pitanje teoriju Velikog praska. Zato su je i nazvali "osovinom zla". :-/

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"Plankov teleskop, kao najbolji do sada instrument za osmatranje pozadinskog zračenja, lansiran je 2010. godine. Nazvan i Plankova kosmološka sonda, po nemačkom fizičaru Maksu Planku, tri godine kasnije dao je zadivljujuće podatke. Mada je zabeležio fluktuacije koje su postojale u trenutku kad je Univerzum bio 370.000 godina star, one zapravo svedoče o stanju svemira mnogo ranije, i to bukvalno u hiljadito-milijardito-milijardito-milijarditom delu sekunde (10−30 s). Plankov teleskop je došao do preciznijeg saznanja o tome da obična materija čini 4,9 odsto mase svemira, tamna materija 26,8, a tamna energija 68,3 odsto. Izmerio je i da je svemir star između 13,761 i 13,835 milijardi godina, što je najtačnije utvrđena starost do sada."

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PITANJE GAVRANA: Ispitujući mapu pozadinskog zračenja koju je snimio WMAP teleskop, astrofizičari Rudlof Šild i Karl Gibons su 2008. godine uveli pojam "osovina zla". U radu pod nazivom Goodness in the Axis of Evil, koji su Šild i Gibons objavili na ArXivsu uočili su prekid između manjih i većih toplotnih fluktuacija, kao i izuzetno visok temperaturni minimum. Ova linija prekida predstavlja osu koja se proteže kroz ceo donji deo nebeske sfere i koja se astrofizičarima današnjice nimalo ne dopada.

Šta je problem sa "osom zla"? Naime, ona se izrazito dobro poklapa sa projekcijom ekliptike na nebesku sferu. To praktično znači da bi, u opštoj slici zračenja koja dolazi iz celog svemira, ovaj prekid mogao biti povezan sa položajem i kretanjem planete Zemlje oko Sunca, kao i položajem Sunčevog sistema, iz koga uostalom svi naši teleskopi gledaju u dubinu kosmosa. Ako je raspored toplotnih fluktuacija ranog Univerzuma povezan sa mestom sa koga se one posmatraju, to znači da nešto nije u redu sa slikom koju dobijamo. Nalaz Plankovog teleskopa je pokazao da ovaj prekid nije greška instrumenta, već da on postoji sistemski.

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Pojava ekliptike na otisku ranog Univerzuma nije prijatna pojava. Ona liči na zagonetke poput eksperimenta sa dva otvora, Majkelsonovim eksperimentom ili Keplerovim osmatranjima planeta. Pojava posmatrača u rezultatu eksperimenta još uvek je kao gavran teorije na umoru. I što su merenja preciznija, gavran postaje sve življi. Da li je "osa zla" takav simptom na inflatornoj teoriji Velikog praska? Za sada imamo samo skup neprijatnih pitanja. Da li nas "osa zla" vodi u sasvim novu kosmologiju? U jedan nov svet gde istoriju Univerzuma ne možemo da posmatramo i spoznamo drugačije do na način koji je karakterističan za naše prisustvo u svemiru? Da li to znači da posmatrači iz drugih delova Galaksije vide jednu sasvim drugačiju evoluciju svemira? Gde čitav svet nastaje samo za onoga koji ga gleda? Zastrašujuće.

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trebat će mi malo više vremena za proučiti materiju i antimateriju...kad mi se upali lampadina budem dao neko mišljenje o tome onako laički jer ovo je malo jača mozgalica.

evo za tebe ovo možda te bude zanimalo pa se možeš uključiti u projekt:

NASA wants you to photograph Starlink satellites with your smartphone

SpaceX and others plan to launch thousands of new satellites into low-Earth orbit, creating streaks that cut through astronomers’ images. Now educators at NASA are asking citizen scientists to help document the problem.
By Eric Betz, Citizen Science Salon | Published: Monday, March 2, 2020

Over the coming years, Elon Musk’s private spaceflight company, SpaceX, will launch thousands of small satellites as part of an effort to provide global, space-based internet. But with each launch, astronomers have grown increasingly worried that this satellite constellation, called Starlink, will interfere with their telescopes’ abilities to study the night sky. This week, scientists with the Russian Academy of Sciences announced that they’ll take their concerns about Starlink to the United Nations.

And now educators at NASA have launched a project that asks for the public’s help documenting these satellite streaks as part of a long-term effort to study how the technology will change our night sky. Anyone with a modern smartphone and a tripod can contribute to the Satellite Streak Watcher project.

“People will photograph these Starlink satellite streaks, and we’ll collect a large archive of these over time,” says astronomer Sten Odenwald, Director of Citizen Science for the NASA Space Science Education Consortium. “It’s going to document the degradation of our night sky by these low-Earth orbit satellites.”

The problem is made worse because the satellites are in low-Earth orbit,” Odenwald says. “They’re brighter because they’re lower. And because there are so many of them, it means (astronomers) get maybe as much as an hour of bright streaks going across their sensitive photographic detectors.”

Those numbers are the real worry for scientists. Astronomers have already moved their telescopes to increasingly remote locations to avoid light pollution. But there’s nothing they can do to avoid bright satellites streaking through and ruining their images.

Cell phone astronomy
Odenwald says that inspired him to launch the Satellite Streak Watcher project and ask citizen scientists all over the world to take pictures of these satellites with their cellphones.

To take part, you’ll need a very basic tripod and a reasonably new smartphone. The veteran astronomer says he’s been amazed at the quality of night-sky images now coming from smartphones. Many phones are now sensitive enough to capture the Milky Way, and he’s even seen detailed shots of the International Space Station taken by holding a phone up to a telescope eyepiece.

“If you’ve got a new phone, it’s probably good enough to do this, and several of them have night sky modes, which is perfect,” he adds. Even phones dating back to 2016 or so should be able to photograph these satellites in about four seconds.

You’ll want to master your phone’s long exposure or night sky setting before heading outside. On older iPhones, you can also capture a Live image and set the exposure to 10 seconds. These work differently than traditional DSLR cameras, which leave the shutter open to capture longer exposures, but the end result is very similar.

You’ll also need to know when the satellites are passing overhead. To find out, you can go to Heavens-Above.com and enter your location. The website will give you a list of satellites and the times that they’re passing over your region. Setup your tripod in advance and point it at the region you want to photograph, then wait for the satellite to appear. To upload your images, simply go to the Satellite Streak Watcher project website and include your exposure and the background constellation.

Even astrophotographers with DSLRs are welcome to contribute. They should use a lens wide enough to capture a broad swath of the night sky, but not one that’s so wide it distorts the field. About a 50mm lens should be perfect.

https://astronomy.com/news/2020/03/nasa-needs-you-to-photograph-starlink-satellites-with-your-smartphone

https://www.anecdata.org/projects/view/687

https://scistarter.org/satellite-streak-watcher

by aben 11/4/2020, 07:47

Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:

šta ima veze kako to mislim. ? jel će to utjecati na tvoj odgovor?
naravski, ako ne razumin pitanjhe, odgovora ne će ni biti

pitanje je jednostavno i jasno čak i onima kojima je IQ ispod tavana.

svejedno, utjecati će

u kom smislu?

pa, bez obzira na jednostavnost, ako ne razumin ne morin odgovoriti

by Guest 11/4/2020, 10:44

aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
naravski, ako ne razumin pitanjhe, odgovora ne će ni biti

pitanje je jednostavno i jasno čak i onima kojima je IQ ispod tavana.

svejedno, utjecati će

u kom smislu?
pa, bez obzira na jednostavnost, ako ne razumin ne morin odgovoriti

koji dio pitanja ne razumiješ?

by aben 11/4/2020, 11:31

Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:

pitanje je jednostavno i jasno čak i onima kojima je IQ ispod tavana.

svejedno, utjecati će

u kom smislu?
pa, bez obzira na jednostavnost, ako ne razumin ne morin odgovoriti

koji dio pitanja ne razumiješ?

obe dvi surečenice

by Guest 11/4/2020, 11:52

aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:

svejedno, utjecati će

u kom smislu?
pa, bez obzira na jednostavnost, ako ne razumin ne morin odgovoriti

koji dio pitanja ne razumiješ?

obe dvi surečenice

a onda si idiot.

by **kic** 11/4/2020, 12:42

https://www.putoholicari.rtl.hr/vrhovi-himalaje-iz-indije-vidljivi-prvi-put-nakon-30-godina-82875/

Drava puna dabrova opet, kaže asilovski

by Noor 11/4/2020, 13:00

Hokage wrote:
https://www.putoholicari.rtl.hr/vrhovi-himalaje-iz-indije-vidljivi-prvi-put-nakon-30-godina-82875/

Drava puna dabrova opet, kaže asilovski

zašto taj više ne dolazi na forum? :roll

by Guest 11/4/2020, 13:01

Hokage wrote:
https://www.putoholicari.rtl.hr/vrhovi-himalaje-iz-indije-vidljivi-prvi-put-nakon-30-godina-82875/

Drava puna dabrova opet, kaže asilovski

bogati se usrali da neće di imat živjeti za deset godina i resetirali su svijet.
upozorenja za globalno zatopljenje i onečišćenja nitko ne iebe 5 posto. zatvorili se u svoje oaze, zaprijetili s virusom i boli ih kuratz.
čak su spremni izgubit par biliona na gladne ljude da ne rade ništa. ne treba tu nikakva teorija zavjere dovoljna je najobičnija logika.
da mi je mentalni sklop takav da jašim druge ljude i ja bih tako na njihovom mjestu.

by Guest 11/4/2020, 13:02

Hokage wrote:
https://www.putoholicari.rtl.hr/vrhovi-himalaje-iz-indije-vidljivi-prvi-put-nakon-30-godina-82875/

Drava puna dabrova opet, kaže asilovski

If you gaze long into the abyss of a disease, your own ideology gazes back at you.

by Guest 11/4/2020, 13:49

aben wrote:
violator wrote:Matematicari? :)

puno veća rozlika ti je ako trošiš pomanje,

recimo po kunu,

potrošiš kunu, ostane 499
potrošiš drugu, ostane 498,

ti ti je na desnoj bandi već skoro iljadu

Prava glavolomka. A zasto (kako) do toga dolazi?

by Guest 11/4/2020, 13:56

Gnječ wrote:[

trebat će mi malo više vremena za proučiti materiju i antimateriju...kad mi se upali lampadina budem dao neko mišljenje o tome onako laički jer ovo je malo jača mozgalica.

evo za tebe ovo možda te bude zanimalo pa se možeš uključiti u projekt:

NASA wants you to photograph Starlink satellites with your smartphone

SpaceX and others plan to launch thousands of new satellites into low-Earth orbit, creating streaks that cut through astronomers’ images. Now educators at NASA are asking citizen scientists to help document the problem.
By Eric Betz, Citizen Science Salon | Published: Monday, March 2, 2020

Over the coming years, Elon Musk’s private spaceflight company, SpaceX, will launch thousands of small satellites as part of an effort to provide global, space-based internet. But with each launch, astronomers have grown increasingly worried that this satellite constellation, called Starlink, will interfere with their telescopes’ abilities to study the night sky. This week, scientists with the Russian Academy of Sciences announced that they’ll take their concerns about Starlink to the United Nations.

And now educators at NASA have launched a project that asks for the public’s help documenting these satellite streaks as part of a long-term effort to study how the technology will change our night sky. Anyone with a modern smartphone and a tripod can contribute to the Satellite Streak Watcher project.

“People will photograph these Starlink satellite streaks, and we’ll collect a large archive of these over time,” says astronomer Sten Odenwald, Director of Citizen Science for the NASA Space Science Education Consortium. “It’s going to document the degradation of our night sky by these low-Earth orbit satellites.”

The problem is made worse because the satellites are in low-Earth orbit,” Odenwald says. “They’re brighter because they’re lower. And because there are so many of them, it means (astronomers) get maybe as much as an hour of bright streaks going across their sensitive photographic detectors.”

Those numbers are the real worry for scientists. Astronomers have already moved their telescopes to increasingly remote locations to avoid light pollution. But there’s nothing they can do to avoid bright satellites streaking through and ruining their images.

Cell phone astronomy
Odenwald says that inspired him to launch the Satellite Streak Watcher project and ask citizen scientists all over the world to take pictures of these satellites with their cellphones.

To take part, you’ll need a very basic tripod and a reasonably new smartphone. The veteran astronomer says he’s been amazed at the quality of night-sky images now coming from smartphones. Many phones are now sensitive enough to capture the Milky Way, and he’s even seen detailed shots of the International Space Station taken by holding a phone up to a telescope eyepiece.

“If you’ve got a new phone, it’s probably good enough to do this, and several of them have night sky modes, which is perfect,” he adds. Even phones dating back to 2016 or so should be able to photograph these satellites in about four seconds.

You’ll want to master your phone’s long exposure or night sky setting before heading outside. On older iPhones, you can also capture a Live image and set the exposure to 10 seconds. These work differently than traditional DSLR cameras, which leave the shutter open to capture longer exposures, but the end result is very similar.

You’ll also need to know when the satellites are passing overhead. To find out, you can go to Heavens-Above.com and enter your location. The website will give you a list of satellites and the times that they’re passing over your region. Setup your tripod in advance and point it at the region you want to photograph, then wait for the satellite to appear. To upload your images, simply go to the Satellite Streak Watcher project website and include your exposure and the background constellation.

Even astrophotographers with DSLRs are welcome to contribute. They should use a lens wide enough to capture a broad swath of the night sky, but not one that’s so wide it distorts the field. About a 50mm lens should be perfect.

https://astronomy.com/news/2020/03/nasa-needs-you-to-photograph-starlink-satellites-with-your-smartphone

https://www.anecdata.org/projects/view/687

https://scistarter.org/satellite-streak-watcher

Mislim da i nema mnogo materijala o tome. Obicno tu kozmicku os interpretiraju kao anomaliju ili cak i kao neki "psiholoski moment" ako se njena pojava tumaci kao da se objekti, njihov raspored, ravnaju prema njoj... Dakle, tipa: "sto se babi htilo..."

Tnx za ovo ostalo.

by **kic** 11/4/2020, 13:58

by Guest 11/4/2020, 14:02

E ovo su pravi problemi! : D

Visina govornice.

Kakav virus, kakva ekonomija. : ))

https://www.facebook.com/637309737/videos/e-odavno-ne%C5%A1to-smje%C5%A1nije-nisam-pogledao-/10158169427949738/

by Guest 11/4/2020, 14:03

Hokage wrote:

Sto? Ipak se dodiruju? :)

by Guest 11/4/2020, 15:42

violator wrote:
aben wrote:
violator wrote:Matematicari? :)

puno veća rozlika ti je ako trošiš pomanje,

recimo po kunu,

potrošiš kunu, ostane 499
potrošiš drugu, ostane 498,

ti ti je na desnoj bandi već skoro iljadu

Prava glavolomka. A zasto (kako) do toga dolazi?

greška nije matematička nego je logička.
stavi znakove plus između prvog i drugog stupca i uvijek ćeš dobiti zadnji broj stupca iznad.
u ovom slučaju koji ti imaš što god napraviš sa 150 dobit ćeš višak, ako umjestro 90 potrošiš 60 imat ćeš 30 viška, 75 25 viška itd.
ne tražiš ukupni broj 500 nego zadnji broj stupca iznad.

by **kic** 11/4/2020, 15:57

by Guest 11/4/2020, 16:31

violator wrote:
aben wrote:
violator wrote:Matematicari? :)

puno veća rozlika ti je ako trošiš pomanje,

recimo po kunu,

potrošiš kunu, ostane 499
potrošiš drugu, ostane 498,

ti ti je na desnoj bandi već skoro iljadu

Prava glavolomka. A zasto (kako) do toga dolazi?

Mathematical Fallacies

An assumption or series of steps which is seemingly correct but contains a flawed argument is called a mathematical fallacy. This page contains some examples of mathematical fallacies below.

https://brilliant.org/wiki/mathematical-fallacies/

primjer:

Extra $100 after borrowing and shopping

I took $1000 from my friend James and $500 from Bond.
While walking to the shops I lost $1000 so now I only have $500.
I did some shopping, spending $300 so now I have $200 left.
I gave $100 back to James and $100 back to Bond.

Now my liabilities are $900 for James and $400 for Bond, so my total liabilities are $1300.

Total liabilities + Shopping = $1300 + $300 = $1600, but I only borrowed $1500.
Where did the extra $100 come from?

by Guest 11/4/2020, 17:53

Gnječ wrote:

Now my liabilities are $900 for James and $400 for Bond, so my total liabilities are $1300.

Total liabilities + Shopping = $1300 + $300 = $1600, but I only borrowed $1500.
Where did the extra $100 come from?

900+400+100+100 =1500 300 koje je potrošila se ne zbraja nigdje nego je dio.
900 + 400 = 1300, 300 je potrošila 1000 je izgubila. i po 100 je vratila i to se više ne broji.

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