Kolaps u madridu...

LOL
koji debilizam, rasadnik virusa i cude se kolicini mrtvijeh

Di su pametnjakovići s prijedlozima da koji ku*ac mjere? Otvori promet, daj autobuse, otvori restorane, koje kur*eve propusnice i izolacije, nek ljudi rade, turisti samo što nisu došli...
Jel misli iko da je nekome u madridu išta od toga na pameti?

T. wrote:Di su pametnjakovići s prijedlozima da koji ku*ac mjere? Otvori promet, daj autobuse, otvori restorane, koje kur*eve propusnice i izolacije, nek ljudi rade, turisti samo što nisu došli...
Jel misli iko da je nekome u madridu išta od toga na pameti?

jedna pandemija i onda vidiš da je vlast tj. država jedna gomila psihopatskih govana uhljeba parazita koji parazitiraju na račun naroda. gdje idu svi ti novci od poreza i ostalih harača? čim se pojavi problem političari šmugnu ko štakori jebo im pas mater psihopatsku.

evo vam idioti primitivni zatucani i "najpametniji", koji ovu strahotu podcjenjujete..
kad ste vidjeli ovakve scene zbog yebene gripe? kad ste gledali i slušali ovakav očaj u ljudima zbog te iste yebene gripe?

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T. wrote:Di su pametnjakovići s prijedlozima da koji ku*ac mjere? Otvori promet, daj autobuse, otvori restorane, koje kur*eve propusnice i izolacije, nek ljudi rade, turisti samo što nisu došli...
Jel misli iko da je nekome u madridu išta od toga na pameti?

jedna pandemija i onda vidiš da je vlast tj. država jedna gomila psihopatskih govana uhljeba parazita koji parazitiraju na račun naroda. gdje idu svi ti novci od poreza i ostalih harača? čim se pojavi problem političari šmugnu ko štakori jebo im pas mater psihopatsku.

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Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:Di su pametnjakovići s prijedlozima da koji ku*ac mjere? Otvori promet, daj autobuse, otvori restorane, koje kur*eve propusnice i izolacije, nek ljudi rade, turisti samo što nisu došli...
Jel misli iko da je nekome u madridu išta od toga na pameti?

jedna pandemija i onda vidiš da je vlast tj. država jedna gomila psihopatskih govana uhljeba parazita koji parazitiraju na račun naroda. gdje idu svi ti novci od poreza i ostalih harača? čim se pojavi problem političari šmugnu ko štakori jebo im pas mater psihopatsku.

ovaj virus i njegove nove mutacije i sojevi neće otići. it's here to stay forever.

Gnječ wrote:

Noor wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:Di su pametnjakovići s prijedlozima da koji ku*ac mjere? Otvori promet, daj autobuse, otvori restorane, koje kur*eve propusnice i izolacije, nek ljudi rade, turisti samo što nisu došli...
Jel misli iko da je nekome u madridu išta od toga na pameti?

jedna pandemija i onda vidiš da je vlast tj. država jedna gomila psihopatskih govana uhljeba parazita koji parazitiraju na račun naroda. gdje idu svi ti novci od poreza i ostalih harača? čim se pojavi problem političari šmugnu ko štakori jebo im pas mater psihopatsku.

ovaj virus i njegove nove mutacije i sojevi neće otići. it's here to stay forever.

dobro, valjda će pomoći cjepivo kad ga nađu?
hm, ovisi o mutacijama...treba i cjepivo dorađivati paralelno

Sauna, alkohol i udisi...

Ako alkohol ubija virus, ubaci ga nekako u pluca.

Ovo se ne pise na dobro.

Noor wrote:

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Noor wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:Di su pametnjakovići s prijedlozima da koji ku*ac mjere? Otvori promet, daj autobuse, otvori restorane, koje kur*eve propusnice i izolacije, nek ljudi rade, turisti samo što nisu došli...
Jel misli iko da je nekome u madridu išta od toga na pameti?

jedna pandemija i onda vidiš da je vlast tj. država jedna gomila psihopatskih govana uhljeba parazita koji parazitiraju na račun naroda. gdje idu svi ti novci od poreza i ostalih harača? čim se pojavi problem političari šmugnu ko štakori jebo im pas mater psihopatsku.

ovaj virus i njegove nove mutacije i sojevi neće otići. it's here to stay forever.

dobro, valjda će pomoći cjepivo kad ga nađu?
hm, ovisi o mutacijama...treba i cjepivo dorađivati paralelno

limun i sodabikarbona

Tek ce vrijeme pokazati na cemu smo.
Dobro je za covjecanstvo da ima razlicitih pristupa problemu.
Vremenom ce se vidjeti sto je bolje, i kud to sve ide.
Na ljeto ce svijet preuzeti strategiju onih koji su postupili najbolje.
Tko ce to biti, budemo vidjeli.

I Španjolska i Italija danas oborile vlastite rekorde. U Španjolskoj 769 mrtvih a u Italiji 969 mrtvih , skoro pa tisuću


https://www.ex-iskon-pleme.com/t39748-italija-na-koljenima-969-mrtvih-od-koronavirusa-u-posljednja-24-sata

Mala gripica e.

velika većina njih je ionako bila 1 nogom u grobu,

Noor wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Noor wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:Di su pametnjakovići s prijedlozima da koji ku*ac mjere? Otvori promet, daj autobuse, otvori restorane, koje kur*eve propusnice i izolacije, nek ljudi rade, turisti samo što nisu došli...
Jel misli iko da je nekome u madridu išta od toga na pameti?

jedna pandemija i onda vidiš da je vlast tj. država jedna gomila psihopatskih govana uhljeba parazita koji parazitiraju na račun naroda. gdje idu svi ti novci od poreza i ostalih harača? čim se pojavi problem političari šmugnu ko štakori jebo im pas mater psihopatsku.

ovaj virus i njegove nove mutacije i sojevi neće otići. it's here to stay forever.

dobro, valjda će pomoći cjepivo kad ga nađu?
hm, ovisi o mutacijama...treba i cjepivo dorađivati paralelno

cjepivo neće pomoći isto kao što ne pomaže cjepivo protiv gripe jer neznaš koji će soj virusa gripe iduće godine biti aktivan. ovaj virus mutira brzinom svjetlosti tako da bi se trebala cijepiti sto puta.

jedna druga stvar je važna zašto većinom starija populacija strada. zato jer svi uzimaju ljekove ACE inhibitore koji kad se uzimaju stvaraju enormnu količinu ACE2 receptora u plućima a ACE2 receptor je ključ pomoću kojeg virus zarazi stanice u tijelu. mlađi i oni koji ne koriste ljekove ACE inhibitore nemaju toliko izraženu imonološku reakciju na covid-19.

no dok se narcisoidni doktori svađaju oko toga je ili nije ljudi i dalje umiru.

ACE-inhibitors, ARBs and COVID-19: What GPs need to know
Some are considering the role of antihypertensives in the coronavirus pandemic, but experts warn against abruptly stopping these medications.

Angiotensin converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) are in the spotlight right now, as doctors question their effect on COVID-19 and what they should accordingly advise patients to do.

A brief summary of salient points:

The COVID-19 virus enters cells via ACE-2 receptors on cells
Some doctors are now questioning the use of antihypertensives ACE-inhibitors and ARBs due to their effect on ACE-2, and thus potential effect on COVID-19
Leading experts warn that ARBs may amplify COVID-19 severity in patients
The role of ACE-inhibitors on COVID-19 is less clear
Experts warn that abruptly stopping ARBs (and ACE-inhibitors) for heart failure may lead to acute heart failure, and ceasing them for ACE-inhibitors may lead to unstable blood pressure
Peak international cardiology bodies strongly recommend patients stay on current antihypertensive therapies

he connection between ARBs and COVID-19
Professor Murray Esler is the senior director of the Baker Heart and Diabetes Institute and consultant cardiologist at the Alfred Hospital Melbourne and Adjunct Professor of Medicine at Monash University.

He wrote a paper on this topic, which was published in the Journal of Hypertension on 11 March.

Professor Esler told newsGP he first became concerned about ARBs and COVID-19 when talking to his daughter, a public health physician in the Northern Territory, a few weeks ago.

‘The first clue was really that severe COVID-19 infection was more common in hypertension, and hypertensive patients are really not predisposed to infection at all, so that was very odd,’ he said.

His interest was also piqued when he found that COVID-19 enters cells by binding to ACE-2.

‘That’s an enzyme that’s well known to cardiologists, so I certainly pricked my ears up when I saw that,’ he said.

‘I knew in particular that ARBs cause very substantial overexpression of ACE-2 in experimental animals and people.

‘So that suggested perhaps this predisposition to severe COVID-19 infection in hypertension could possibly be a drug effect mediated by ARBs which upregulates ACE-2, and potentially predisposes to infectivity but also in particular, severe infection.’

Professor Esler has been in contact with colleagues in Lombardy, Italy, who are currently exploring it further.

‘[They] are actually looking at their databases to try and see if our hypothesis is true,’ he said.

https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/ace-inhibitors-arbs-and-covid-19-what-gps-need-to

Study Indicates That ACE Inhibitors And Angiotensin Receptor Blockers May Increase Risk Of Severe Covid-19. Hypertension and Cardiovascular Patients Should Take Note

Dr James Diaz, Professor and Head of Environmental Health Sciences at Louisiana State University Health and New Orleans School of Public Health, has proposed a possible explanation for the severe lung complications being seen in some people diagnosed with Covid-19.

His research findings was published in the Journal of Travel Medicine. https://academic.oup.com/jtm/advance-article/doi/10.1093/jtm/taaa041/5809509

It has already been confirmed that SARS beta coronaviruses, SARS-CoV, which caused the SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) outbreak in 2003 and the new SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, bind to angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptors in the lower respiratory tracts of infected patients to gain entry into the lungs.

Typically viral pneumonia and potentially fatal respiratory failure may result in susceptible persons after 10-14 days.

Dr Diaz told Thailand Medical News, "Angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors (ACEIs) and angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) are highly recommended medications for patients with cardiovascular diseases including heart attacks, high blood pressure, diabetes and chronic kidney disease to name a few. Many of those who develop these diseases are older adults. They are prescribed these medications and take them every day."

New research in experimental models has shown an increase in the number of ACE2 receptors in the cardiopulmonary circulation after intravenous infusions of ACE inhibitors.

Dr Diaz explains, "Since patients treated with ACEIs and ARBS will have increased numbers of ACE2 receptors in their lungs for coronavirus S proteins to bind to, they may be at increased risk of severe disease outcomes due to SARS-CoV-2infections."

Dr Diaz stresses, this hypothesis is supported by a recent descriptive analysis of 1,099 patients with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 infections treated in China during the reporting period, December 11, 2019, to January 29, 2020. This study reported more severe disease outcomes in patients with hypertension, coronary artery disease, diabetes and chronic renal disease. All patients with the diagnoses noted met the recommended indications for treatment with ACEIs or ARBs. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32109013

Dr Diaz commented that two mechanisms may protect children from Covid-19 infections cross-protective antibodies from multiple upper respiratory tract infections caused by the common cold-causing alpha coronaviruses, and fewer ACE2 receptors in their lower respiratory tracts to attract the binding S proteins of the beta coronaviruses.

https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/study-indicates-that-ace-inhibitors-and-angiotensin-receptor-blockers-may-increase-risk-of-severe-covid-19--hypertension-and-cardiovascular-patients-s

jbt možda covid postane naša stvarnost.

ono mlad si lep si, sve 5.. dođeš u penziju i čekaš kada će te covid dokrajčiti... rodiš se slab , čekaš svake godine covid da te dokrajčiš.. dok si mlad, zdrav, nepušiš, siguran si do 65godine

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:jbt možda covid postane naša stvarnost.

ono mlad si lep si, sve 5.. dođeš u penziju i čekaš kada će te covid dokrajčiti... rodiš se slab , čekaš svake godine covid da te dokrajčiš.. dok si mlad, zdrav, nepušiš, siguran si do 65godine

e da je tako....

sve sam to i organska prehrana i sve ...al goni ga u kurac dalje od mene

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:velika većina njih je ionako bila 1 nogom u grobu,

netočno. ali ovisi kako definiraš "jednom nogom u grobu". pazi da je španjolska gripa kosila upravo ovakve bezobrazno nadobudne mlade i zdrave poput tebe a kako ih vi podrugljivo nazivate "starčad" nije. "starčad" su bili imuni.

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:jbt možda covid postane naša stvarnost.

ono mlad si lep si, sve 5.. dođeš u penziju i čekaš kada će te covid dokrajčiti... rodiš se slab , čekaš svake godine covid da te dokrajčiš.. dok si mlad, zdrav, nepušiš, siguran si do 65godine

ili još bolje, ako možeš platiti cjepivo živit ćeš, ako ne možeš ostaje ti luk i vitamin D...

Ako se ovo sranje nastavi, možda respiratori budu sastavni dio svakog domaćinstva, kao i toplomjeri :)

dobro, bez straha, to vam samo skodi i ometa u akciji  ;)