U Njemačkoj strahovito rapidno raste broj zaraženih

U sat vremena tisuću novih.

Bilo je 17,776 zaraženih i 43 mrtva prije uru vrimena a sad novi podaci s terena :

18,756 zaraženih i 53 mrtvih.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_pandemic_data

Gotovi su.

gadno je,čuo sam se danas sa jednim kolegom.Disciplinirani nijemci stoje u redu po dva tri sata da ih testiraju samoinicijativno.Problem je kod njih što oni puno putuju pa su donjeli to sa svih strana.

Sad će počet padat ko muve jer za sad je virus pogodio mlađu populaciju koja radi i putuje a s ovolikim brojem zaraženi ovo sad ide na sve a imaju 25% stanovništva starije od 60 godina.

Sad ćeš vidit kad to krene pa vojska kamionima bude vodila leševe na kremiranje.

Vahala.

Kasne s mjerama...
Još im rade restorani, frizeraji...

Moje srpkinje što rade u pufovima, ubiše se od kurca. Naravno, dok se švabama i turcima diže.  Ali nije ni to doveka.

The Coronavirus, the country plunges into crisis mode on Wednesday evening, Chancellor Merkel was targeted in a televised address to the German citizens. Until stricter measures are effective against a rapid spread of the pandemic, it will take some more time. Every day the Robert Koch-Institute, but also representatives of the Federal government report to word. In the Live Ticker of FOCUS Online you will not miss the Statement.

Söder is a further Corona-measures

The most Important thing from the Söder-press conference:

• Bayern imposed far-reaching the output block for a period of two weeks (entry 12.36 PM)
  
• Leaving the apartment is from Saturday only when there were good reasons for permits (work, shopping, doctor and pharmacy visits)
  
• Sport and exercise in the fresh air, allowed to remain, but only alone or with the people with whom one lives together
  
• The food supply is secured
  
• In case of violation of provisions of high fines threaten
  
• Söder wants to prevent Takeovers from abroad
  

State government of Bavaria, to The decrees of the output restriction in the Overview.

Fines up to 25,000 euros

13.08 PM: interior Minister Joachim Herrmann is also on the legal situation. What is threatened when citizens violate the ban on public Assembly? "According to the infection protection act and fines up to 25,000 Euro are possible." Basically, as with any administrative procedure also remedies, such as summary proceedings and lawsuits to the administrative court is possible.
 

13.02 PM: Söder explained on demand, that it is now also important to prevent corporate takeovers from abroad. "What worries me is the economic development. We urgently need a national effort. It will be the biggest challenge, to survive the recession. Germany and Bavaria are not permitted to become takeover candidates. It is important that at the national level is traded, and faster. We also need to think about unconventional measures. We must use all the possibilities of the Law, Takeovers from abroad to say."

• Which helps companies and self-employed persons and freelancers now take can, read here: What is the Corona helps companies and self-employed now get
  

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The Bavarian authorities are already of Corona-utility money requests overwhelmed our backs to the wall of medium-sized companies. "Meanwhile, we have tens of thousands of applications with a total financial volume of several Hundred million euros," said Economics Minister Hubert Aiwanger (Free voters) on Friday. The program for small and medium-sized enterprises was launched on Wednesday.
 
The first Transfers have been received after Aiwangers information on Friday on the accounts of the company. "To a large extent, the money will arrive over the next week for freelancers and businesses," said Aiwanger. The help for freelancers, self-employed, and small and medium-sized enterprises with up to 250 employees.[/size]

Wieler wrestles in PK order, as amended, and submit an appeal to the population

FOCUS Online/Wochit Wieler wrestles in PK order, as amended, and submit an appeal to the population

Söder: "the protection of us all. It is a test of Character for Bayern."

12.42 PM. "These are measures that we would not have dreamed of, but they are necessary. It comes to the protection of all of us. It is a test of Character for Bayern."
12.41 PM: "For the Rational as much changes not, but for the Unreasonable there is now a clear set of rules."
12.39 PM: "of Course in sports or go for a Walk is possible, but either alone or in the family." Söder asks for understanding for the measures. The police and the security services to monitor compliance with the measures solid. "Anyone who violates them, must reckon with high fines."
12.38 PM: "The food supply remains as previously received. There is no reason for hoarding. And also the banks will remain open. You don't need make cash withdrawals. We will also be closing the restaurant tomorrow, basically." With the exception of, for example, offers Delivery.

Group meeting contact avoidance, such As the Corona of a crisis to ignore

FOCUS Online group meeting contact avoidance, such As the Corona of a crisis to ignore
 

Far-Reaching Output Restrictions

12.36 PM: From 0 o'clock today, there will be far-reaching output restrictions, public life in Bavaria is largely shut down. The provisions shall apply on a provisional basis for 14 days. The Leaving of one's own apartment is allowed as of Saturday, only where there are proper grounds.
To continue to allow The people to go to work. Everyone can continue to go to the doctor, with restrictions in certain areas. Visiting rights in particular are limited to the case of death fundamentally.
12.35 PM: Söder argues against a German exceptionalism, Bayern applicable, moreover, that it is a border region. "I just got off the phone with Sebastian Kurz. We will align our rules 1-to-1 to Austria."
12.34 PM: "Many mayors and district administrators are asking us to take new measures to develop. We must try, the wave of the sudden to break infections. We have to drive almost completely down, later up. The scale is solely the protection of the population."

Söder: "The Situation is not good"

12.33 PM: "I say for Bavaria: The Situation is not good. Unfortunately, the results so far are not encouraging. Very many have not yet understood the seriousness of the situation. There are Corona-parties and an incredible number of Group formations. We can no longer accept this, we must do something."
12.32 PM: "We get, if we are not careful, a similar trend as in Italy or France."
12.31 PM: Söder: "Unfortunately, we have to turn again today to you. Corona has our country firmly in its grip. We have all done a lot in the last few days, but, unfortunately, is even more necessary." The number of cases in Bavaria were increased by more than 30 per cent, chains of Infection are practically not traceable.
12.30 PM: The press conference with Markus Söder begins.
11.48 am: In the fight against the spread of the Coronavirus in Bavaria may be additional restrictions and requirements just before. The state Chancellery invited on Friday at short notice to a press conference at 12.30 PM a, among other things, the Prime Minister, Markus Söder (CSU).
The press conference, as is already the last Male - only via the Internet Stream and also via Live broadcast on television of the Bavarian radio will be pursued. This is in view of the Coronavirus-measures are not possible.
In government circles, it was on a Friday morning, there will be intense discussions Söders ran, among other things, with his Cabinet, the Corona-crisis staff and municipal politicians. These conversations have lasted till deep into the night and be gone in the Morning.
What measures would proclaim Söder, was initially unclear. He had threatened on Thursday but specifically with a curfew for the whole of the free state, if the people in Bavaria adhere to existing restrictions and obligations.

Briefing of the Robert-Koch Institute in the Ticker-log

The most important statements Wielers:

• Coronavirus is more dangerous than the flu (entry to 10.23 PM)
  
• Study shows that many take the Virus seriously (10.14 PM)
  
• New page of RKI shows the case numbers in the individual counties (10.09 PM)
  
• "We have gained time in Germany" (10.00 PM)
  

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10.29 PM: Wieler responds to a question after a General obligation of a protection mask to wear: "We will afterwards know what the best measures were. The idea of herd immunity we consider to be difficult because the Virus transmits very easily. We know according to the current state, the Mask protects you from all the others. And that is also important. Those who work in the health system, are the people we need to protect the most. Of course, we hope that we have the best recipes have. We will see afterwards."
10.26 PM: Wieler: "at the Latest, if you get shortness of breath, is the time where you consult a doctor or hospitalized have to be."
10.25 PM: "If we all stick to what is specified, we can make this epidemic a maximum of verlangsamem."

Wieler: Coronavirus is more dangerous than the flu

10.23 PM: Wieler, the Coronavirus compares with the flu: "This disease is easier to transmit. The proportion of patients who are severely ill is significantly higher. The proportion of people in the risk groups that need to be ventilated, is significantly higher. The proportion of people in the risk groups, and to die, is significantly higher. There is nothing that makes clear that we have a bigger problem."
10.20 PM: "The testing capacity will be further ramped up," says Wieler, how many currently are carried out, he could not exactly say.
10.19 PM: a possible curfew says Wieler: "This Institute has a number of advantages, we are not in competition. We are independent. We can do nothing more to convey than the facts and the assumptions, we calculate. The measures resulting from them, must take the responsible decision-donors."
10.17 Uhr: Wieler: "Wir stehen noch am Anfang einer Epidemie, wir stehen noch linksunten, rutschen aber immer weiter nach oben. Wir haben es früh erkannt." Als Corona-Todesfall gilt jemand, bei dem eine Infektion nachgewiesen wurde, erklärt Wieler darüber hinaus.

Studie zeigt: Viele nehmen Virus weiterhin nicht ernst

10.14 Uhr: Wieler weist auf eine Bitkom-Studie hin, wonach immer noch viele Menschen nicht bereit sein, sich einzuschränken und das Virus nicht ernst nehmen. Er appelliert noch einmal eindringlich, die Warnungen des RKI zu beachten. "Die Krise hat ein Ausmaß, das ich mir selber niemals hätte vorstellen können. Und daher noch einmal zum Schluss: Wir brauchen so viele Beatmungsgeräte und Intensivbetten wie möglich in den Krankenhäusern. Und ich appelliere daran, sich vorzubereiten. Die Krankenhäuser müssen jetzt soweit sein."
10.13 Uhr: Wieler macht noch einmal deutlich; "Jeder kann infiziert werden, unabhängig von der Altersgruppe. Aber das Risiko daran zu sterben, steigt mit dem Alter." Darum sei es wichtig, dass jeder darauf achte, anderen nicht anzustecken.

Wieler appelliert an die Bevölkerung

10.11 Uhr: Wieler appelliert an die Bevölkerung: "Wir können diese Epidemie nur verlangsamen, wenn wir uns an die Spielregeln halten. Distanzierung, Abstand halten. Das Virus wird in erster Linie von Mensch zu Mensch übertragen." Wer krank ist, solle zuhause bleiben und auch versuchen auf Distanz zu seinen Familienmitgliedern zu gehen. Wer auf einen Test warte, solle sich in Selbstquarantäne begeben und zuhause bleiben.
10.09 Uhr: Wieler erklärt, dass seit 8 Uhr ein Dashboard online geschaltet ist, wo für jeden Landkreis angezeigt wird, wie viele Fälle es dort gibt.  Es gehe darum so transparent wie möglich zu informieren. "Wir werden das Tool immer weiter entwickeln."  Die Zahlen basieren auf offiziellen Meldedaten, die dem RKI übermittelt werden. Die Zahlen sollen jeden Morgen um 8 Uhr aktualisiert werden.

Mehr als die Hälfte der Patienten hat Husten

10.07 Uhr; Zu den Symptomen sagt Wieler, dass derzeit etwa vier von zehn Patienten angeben Fieber zu haben. Sehr viele hätten Husten, das würde auf mehr als die Hälfte der Patienten zutreffen,
10.06 Uhr: 17 Menschen gerechnet auf 100.000 Menschen sind derzeit in Deutschland infiziert. Diese Zahl würde von Region zu Region stark variieren, weswegen auch unterschiedliche Maßnahmen in unterschiedlichen Regionen notwendig seien. "Die Epidemie verläuft regional unterschiedlich."
10.04 Uhr: Jetzt geht es um Deutschland. Rund 14.000 Fälle wurden bis 0 Uhr gemeldet. 2859 Fälle mehr als am Vortag. Es gibt 38 Todesfälle, das sind elf mehr als am Vortag.

"We have gained time in Germany"

10.00 am: Wieler starts with the current Numbers, he stressed that the officially reported Numbers are. Stand 19.3., 8 p.m., around the world there are more than 200,000 cases, in comparison to the day before the 17.000 are more. 8830 people had so far died. In the European region, more than 11,000 cases have come in comparison to the day before to do so.
Wieler: "We have gained time in Germany, to our hospitals, to prepare." We were but yet at the beginning of the development.
09.59 PM: Lothar Wieler, President of the RKI, is as. There you go.
09.07 PM: 10.00 PM informed the Robert Koch Institute about the latest developments. We will be reporting live.

Jens Spahn informed about the care for needy

14.03 PM: After Easter to the Prime Minister and the experts of the Robert Koch Institute decided the extent to which measures are reduced can. It was from the press conference.
13.56 PM: "The Virus is here and it will remain forever," explains Spahn again. The swine flu Virus, which has reached ten years ago in Germany, was also still there, but under control. Therefore, it is also the case with the Coronavirus to slow the spread, to develop therapies and vaccines and to develop protection concepts. "We have to decide in a dynamic situation."

"We must seize the time"

13.52 PM: "The Virus is there and it remains there. We must use the time to our capacities and to develop protection concepts for our vulnerable groups of the population," says Spahn. In the coming days, there will be additional discussions. Spahn explains that it may take ten to 14 days, until the measures now being taken are proving effective.
13.43 PM: Spahn appeals also here again: "Stay home!" All of the measures that have been taken would only work if everyone contributes their solidarity contribution. Only in this way an Overload of the health could be and care system to prevent it. "Try to keep a distance where possible. In order to make it to the people in the care system easier."
13.42 PM: "care not everyone can, nursing is not a profession like any other. Therefore, we are sending a Signal of discharge to the care and nursing staff. These measures are also a Signal to the patient. We care about you, we have the care in the view."

Spahn introduces measures for the relief of the nursing staff

13.36 PM: Spahn presents a Plan to relieve the nursing staff and services. Bureaucracy and direct contact should be reduced to protect the nurses. "To reduce the workload of the nursing staff, we have decided to relieve the care of the bureaucracy," says Spahn. The care-Tüv is first exposed to. Draw attention to grievances should however be further investigated. Regular monitoring visits to care is to be exposed to persons receiving money first also. It is not intended to create a legal basis for imposing additional costs on the Corona, with the crisis in the nursing homes.
Suspended temporarily personnel keys and other standards, such as the share of skilled workers is to be without remuneration is to be reduced for the homes. Suspected cases of infections in care homes will need to be reported to the nursing care insurance funds. Then it should also be ensured that other personnel is to organize as a replacement.
Spahn also in view: "employees of the Medical service, it should be parked, if possible and necessary - to - care facilities, hospitals and health offices."
13.35 PM; "health care for the needy-to-date with the most at risk," says Spahn at the beginning.
13.30: In a nutshell, is the Minister of health, Jens Spahn in front of the press and on the care of vulnerable in the current crisis.

Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, speaks about the role of the Bundeswehr

13.32 PM: There is a specific request for assistance in Thuringia to a reception facility, explains AKK. This facility is currently under quarantine.
13.25 PM: What is a curfew for the soldiers of the German armed forces would mean must finally be clarified, explained AKK.
13.20 PM: "If States and municipalities and other institutions to the edge of their capacities, we will help." The possibility of support but could be done only in the case of a corresponding request and under strict legal provisions.
For disaster protection, and health care in the districts and circle-free cities in Germany are first of all responsible. In the case of Overload, you can ask for assistance and also to the German armed forces contact. However, it must first be examined whether other civilian and non-military can support.
"All the authorities of the Federation and the Länder provide mutual legal and administrative assistance", - stated in article 35 of the basic law. "To maintain or restore public security or order, a Land in particularly serious cases the forces and facilities of the Federal border guard to assist its police request, when the police without this support, a task not or only with considerable difficulty could meet. To help in the case of a natural disaster or a particularly serious accident a Land police forces of other countries, forces and facilities of other administrative authorities and of the Federal border protection and the dispute may request forces."
13.14 PM: The procurement of medical equipment, the assistance in the first place, explains Kramp-Karrenbauer. "We are for weeks around the clock, around the globe, masks, and other materials to procure."
There is already 50 requests for assistance, of which 13 would be fulfilled. "In the current Situation, quick decisions are important," said Kramp-Karrenbauer. "We will support as long as we are needed."

"We will support as long as we are needed"

13.13 PM: "We want to make our contribution to the Situation in Germany to sustain." In particular, the medical service of the Bundeswehr will be used.
13.11 PM: "60 to 70 percent of the patients in the military hospitals are civilians," explained the Minister. Soldiers would, as a precaution in the Virus to be tested, in order to prevent them from the Virus in other countries, such as Mali, the introduction.
13.10 PM: The Ministry of defence have, according to Kramp-Karrenbauer 2336 reservists reported, the emergency in the fight against the corona of crisis in addition, could help. Overall, give it to 75 000 reservists, whose contact details you have said Kramp-Karrenbauer on Thursday in Berlin. The Bundeswehr has more than 180 000 soldiers.
The reservist Association of the German armed forces has 115 000 members. "Ordered" are 28 000 reservists, these men and women do regularly Exercises. They are involved in the armed forces.
13.09 PM: "We place a great value on the self-protection of members of the armed forces." It seeks to make a contribution, that the pandemic is more widespread, but also to ensure that the Bundeswehr forces in case of an emergency are available.
13.07 PM: "the first point is to Ensure that the core mandate, the protection of their own men and women", as AKK. This is particularly relevant to the ability of German citizens from crisis regions abroad and back.
13.05 PM: AKK: "We are currently not required, such as civilian Agencies. But we prepare us to the fact that the Bundeswehr is not available." The German armed forces support, for weeks, to slow the spread of the pandemic in Germany.
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dans,zadnji radni dan u mnogim firmama,mnogi na pola pogona ili slicno..

Legendovich wrote:dans,zadnji radni dan u mnogim firmama,mnogi na pola pogona ili slicno..

a ja klasa optimist,mislio sam u 6.mjesecu gore

vili40 wrote:

Legendovich wrote:dans,zadnji radni dan u mnogim firmama,mnogi na pola pogona ili slicno..

a ja klasa optimist,mislio sam u 6.mjesecu gore

nama kreteni gori jos jucer izbacili raspored za iduci tjedan..ovi doli u pogonima u tri smjene,kao i inace,a i SQ radi,bez iznimke..

Inace,stabilizira se stanje sa namirnicama u ducanima..prvi nalet panike prosao..cijene normala..

Not only cough and fever: the Bonn virologist finds new Corona-symptoms

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Friday, 20.03.2020, 15:38
Cough and fever are the typical symptoms of infection with Sars-Cov-2. But the more knowledge physicians gain, the more new symptoms appear. Virologist Hendrik Streeck is now pushed to such previously unknown symptoms of a Covid-19 infection.
More than 100 Coronavirus have visited Infected virologist Hendrik Streeck and his staff. He is of the firm Conviction that he has seen the "most of the patients here in Germany".
Because he and his colleagues from the University hospital Bonn in the district of Heinsberg in Affected homes and have Affected the Covid-19-about their complaints. "We have the symptoms of recognized and also new discovered", reported by Streeck in an Interview with the FAZ. The scientists have taken air samples, swabs from door handles and smart phones, and "even the toilet water, collected samples". Critically Ill, the hospital had to, you have not examined.
The Virus Sars-CoV-2 belongs to the family of corona viruses, a virus group, the Cold symptoms to diseases with schwerwiegenderem course, such as Mers or Sars triggers. It can cause the lung disease Covid-19.

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Ill showed more days of smell and taste loss

Their research has provided interesting information: "Almost all of the Infected, we have surveyed, and for a good two-thirds, described a multi-day smell and taste loss," explains Streeck. This had gone so far that a mother can perceive the smell of a full diaper of your child have not. "Others could no longer smell her Shampoo, and food began to taste bland."

When the symptoms would occur within the infection, is still unclear. Streeck suspected that you were rather later in the course of the disease.
"In 30 percent of cases have occurred in our Infected by a case that is more common than previously thought," says the virologist.
 

 
 

Streeck advises to lead a Symptom diary

Other, already well-known symptoms of Covid-19:
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Who such symptoms perceives and contact people had, the Covid-19 suffering, you should call a doctor contact, or the number of doctors willing to schafst service 116117 choose.
Streeck also suggests: "Generally speaking, I recommend to those who have had contact with a positively tested Person to go as a precaution, in-home quarantine and to keep a Symptom diary," as the virologist in his book, "Coronavirus - Everything you need to know" declared.

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How long will it take before the first symptoms appear, is different. The time from infection until the onset of the disease is in most cases between two and 14 days. However, there are also notes, "the incubation time may be up to 26 days," says Streeck.
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What you should do if you live with a Diseased under one roof

To protect yourself from a disease, recommends the Bonn Professor: Prefer to wash hands to disinfect instead of you, because: "The Coronavirus is a Virus that is surrounded by a lipid envelope. In the soap containing surfactants can destroy this case easily - and are therefore an extremely effective means for the elimination of corona virus." Non-enveloped viruses, such as Norovirus, are significantly more difficult to remove.
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A virologist does not accept that diseases run in two phases

In most cases, runs Covid-19 the evidence so far suggests that mild and Infected if not noticed, such as the WHO reported. Much less frequently it comes to a severe course.
Partly, it is also referred to as a two-phase course, after which the disease is initially mild and then severe will. The Hendrik Streeck but it is unusual.
"A reason for a two-phase course of the disease could be, for example, was actually deported to the mild course of the disease, not properly cured, so that a bacterial infection could add a journeyman. Or the immune system was through alcohol, Smoking, or excessive Fatigue weakened, leading to a distinct disease outbreak has resulted in" reports of the physicians in his book.
However, the currently only speculation. The virologist assumes that Covid-19-diseases, like other coronaviruses infections also, not a two-phase run.
Sars-CoV-2 is not the only Coronavirus, which so far has arrived in Germany. Permanently settled here, according to the Bonn virologists Hendrik Streeck already four well-known corona viruses, for example, HCoV-HKU1 or HCoV-NL63. "All of the corona virus have in common is that they cause a flu-like infection," explains Streeck. The Bonn Professor assumes that the novel Coronavirus in the Federal Republic of Germany will be permanently established.

Streeck: every Day 2500 people in Germany, the least of Sars-CoV, die-2

A severe course of the disease, develops after infection with Sars-CoV-2 of the pathogen can produce an inflammation of the lungs. A Sepsis is possible. In the result, it can kidney and multi-organ failure and the disease, therefore, lead to death.
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T. wrote:Kasne s mjerama...
Još im rade restorani, frizeraji...

jel se zezaš ili?

Noor wrote:

T. wrote:Kasne s mjerama...
Još im rade restorani, frizeraji...

jel se zezaš ili?

Pa cura mi kaze sve pozatvarano osim trgovine hranom i apoteke..Hajlbrun..no mozda su to oni turski šišeraji i doneri..ne bi me cudilo..

Noor wrote:

T. wrote:Kasne s mjerama...
Još im rade restorani, frizeraji...

jel se zezaš ili?

Ne zeza. Oni tek sad razmatraju da to zatvore. Još odlučuju. Neke pokrajine se čak i protive tome npr Berlin.

Turcadija se prilicno komotno ponasa..

Legendovich wrote:Turcadija se prilicno komotno ponasa..

a ništa, moraš uletiti i sve to razbucati

tre wrote:

Legendovich wrote:Turcadija se prilicno komotno ponasa..

a ništa, moraš uletiti i sve to razbucati

baš htjedoh napisat...kuglana

Noor wrote:

tre wrote:

Legendovich wrote:Turcadija se prilicno komotno ponasa..

a ništa, moraš uletiti i sve to razbucati

baš htjedoh napisat...kuglana

ako iko može onda je to svetoje!!