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Post by Hektorović 6/6/2019, 23:46

Leviathan2 wrote:
Hektorović wrote:
Google maps je nezamjenjiv... Apple je pokušao, pa nisu uspjeli...
gmaps na mobitelu?
pa imam navigator, 
a mapama uvijek mos pristupit preko eksplorera
stvarno vas ne kuzim

masa ljudi je informatički nepismena

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Post by Hektorović 6/6/2019, 23:48

Evo što je prije par mjeseci govorio Luttwak


Edward: Well a drastic response is very simple. To this day, the People’s Republic of China, with its many accomplishments, cannot produce an integrated circuit that is even remotely competitive. No Chinese intellectual property, integrated circuit or chip … as you know super computers, laptops, phones, all of what we call electronics, anything you’re going to build artificial intelligence on, does rest on integrated circuits or microprocessors or chips or whatever you call them. Those things, in order to be competitive, not just commercially but functional, for things like don’t generate so much heat that they melt down your battery kind of thing, those things, the Chinese are not able to do without using foreign intellectual capital and they can’t manufacture them. They have to be manufactured by Taiwan Semiconductor Corporation or the other people who can work on what’s called 7 nm, which is seven nanometers, which is seven billionths of a meter, right? They can’t do it.
Brad: So should we put export controls on those kinds of things?
Edward: No, no, no. What Trump did by saying that he’s stopping the supply of central processing units to the second biggest Chinese companies, ZTE, and the next day ZTE, which is quoted in Shanghai, shares collapsed. The United States controls their electronics, partially, and what the United States does not control, the giant enterprise called Arm Cambridge, England. The enterprise that converted Cambridgeshire into another Silicon Valley, Arm controls. There is no Chinese integrated circuit that is based on Chinese intellectual property; none of them can be manufactured by themselves, only by outsiders, usually the huge Taiwan Semiconductor. It in turn, totally depends on American machinery.
That is the response should have been, and Trumps was that. He said, “I’m not allowing ZTE to have any equipment.” ZTE collapsed. He could have done the same thing to Huawei.


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Post by Hektorović 6/6/2019, 23:50

Edward: Alright. Stopping the ZTE thing where Trump said we are not allowing you to have components, and ZTE starts collapsing, then the Chinese immediately started complying with the whole other stuff. So, the idea is to use your power but don’t use your power and say, shut them down completely unless they fail to respond to the messages. Right now, I believe Mr. Xi Jinping’s position is become precarious, even as they announce four new institutes I noticed that there are fewer and fewer pictures of him appearing in the media. That’s not because somebody’s keeping him out but he is himself retreating, he’s feeling the adverse weight, and that may bring them back …
Now addressing your issue: artificial intelligence, it’s true. In this kind of childish way, I think Xi Jinping is a childish guy. He thought artificial intelligence is the key to Chinese victory and artificial intelligence and G5. Both of these have some realistic elements.
For example, G5, we all know what G5 is. Right? G4 was much better than G2. G5 is better. What is the promise for the Chinese? The promise is that if you have such fantastic communications, the phone in your hand need not be a brainy phone at all. It can be just a screen and a voice inside. You don’t need the brain function because you can bring it back to a supercomputer back in China.
Brad: The 5G you’re talking about.
Edward: Yeah, 5G. So it means that all our shortcomings, we Chinese, our inability to make CPUs, MPUs all that stuff become irrelevant because they won’t need them anymore inside that thing, dumb phone. So, that may even be true. This dream of theirs, the 5G they can circumvent their inability to carry out certain types of industrial projects. Which is very interesting, their inability to do a chip after twenty years of trying, has a meaning this inability. Now, in regard to artificial intelligence, we all know what it is, which is not something in the far future where everything will change, it’s what’s happening every day. When you go on Google and you buy a pair of boots, they start offering you mountain vacations, that’s artificial intelligence. It’s already being applied and used in many different ways. Not just selling mountain holidays or boots. And if you add a highly advanced artificial intelligence to everyday economic activity, you can make yourself very rich, Chinese idea.
Secondly, if you add it to your existing military forces, as an add on you make yourself very rich. Sorry, very powerful, very militarily very powerful. These are very true statements. It really could happen. The F-35 has a helmet-mounted display. The helmet-mounted display means the pilot looks to the target and the air-to-air missile he has has a head that can turn with his helmet, facing that way. So he can actually launch the missile without having to turn the entire airplane, thereby saving three seconds of winning the air battle. But why have somebody inside that helmet? Instead of having a pilot who was latency, let’s use the engineering term, taking two seconds to focus and so on. You just have artificial intelligence and then the helmet turns, sees the enemy thing and artificially determines that it’s not friendly, identification friend, foe, and then image recognition of the simplest kind is enough when you’re dealing with an air environment where there’s a finite number of checks and now the missile goes.
So, what’s really happening today in the world is that artificial intelligence is here and it’s being kept at bay only by the flat-out refusal of the military to accept it.
And the Chinese idea is that they will actually implement it.
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Post by Hektorović 6/6/2019, 23:53

First of all, we need to take security seriously. There was a petition in Google for continuing with their search engine that would be Chinese regime-compliant and five hundred people signed it, many of them were Chinese citizens. So, in Google, which is one of our paladins, okay. Artificial intelligence is like the navy, air force is Google. There are five hundred Chinese citizens.
Secondly, there are many American citizens who were born in China. Thirdly, there are Americans of Chinese extraction. Security attitude to all of them is extremely lax, it’s in the principles of non-discrimination, equality, and niceness. Okay? Bringing back to the atomic spies, Manhattan project, by 1960 all well right-thinking, properly educated Americans thought that the United States had been overcome by a horrible, anti-communism hysteria, McCarthyism, terrible, terrible. Well, only in the 1990s we discovered that it was grossly underdone. That, in fact, the Soviet spies had got much more and we never even caught the important ones. It’s only they started printing and issuing stamps with their faces that we discovered who was really taking.
So, what’s going on now is mass theft of U.S. intellectual property, and a very feeble response. So let’s start with that.
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Post by dzango 7/6/2019, 00:02

Hektorović wrote:
Leviathan2 wrote:
ti stvarno...
ne kuzim tebe bas
operativni sistem iliti os nema veze sa googlanjem, goglati mos  s bilo kojim explorerom, dovoljno da ides preko googla a mos svaki narihtat da ti automatski ide na gogle
email isto tako
yubito isto mozes 
wacap isto mos instalirat ako ga instaliras na android
itd
os je operativni sustav na kojem to sve pociva a kako su android i arc svejedno na linuxu, nemas problema za to
nije to razlika windovzi  i mac ili linux da moras kojekakve emulatore koristiti jer im je razlicit kernel
ja na linuxu koristim hrpu windovz programa, jednostavno ih wine otvara i ne moram mislit o tomu


Google maps je nezamjenjiv... Apple je pokušao, pa nisu uspjeli...
A zašto? Ja po gradu koristim jebeni srpski Plan plus jer mi je bolji a vidim  da ima još brdo sličnih aplikacija.
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Post by veber 7/6/2019, 00:06

Hektorović wrote:
Leviathan2 wrote:
Hektorović wrote:
Google maps je nezamjenjiv... Apple je pokušao, pa nisu uspjeli...
gmaps na mobitelu?
pa imam navigator, 
a mapama uvijek mos pristupit preko eksplorera
stvarno vas ne kuzim

masa ljudi je informatički nepismena
da, to je istina.
recimo kada je prodavač magle rimota objavio oglas za čistačicu koja mora poznavat osnove Excela svi su se digli na noge, živi, mrtvi, pregradni, nosivi i ini zidovi.

ak ne koristiš xl ili w, pa nepismen si.


ekipa ima smart telefon, a ne zna 3% iskoristiti.

pitanje koje sam postavio kandidatu za posao;
-koje vještine posjedujete?
-znam se ukopčat na internet.
-molim?
-pa znam se uključit na vajfaj, i dobro igram ...... nekaj.

tako da je to stvarnost, ali ne iz hrvatske već iz njemačke.

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