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uglovnomu, ovo ča pišeš za narcise i sovcijopate,
bogami, sve me posićo no te. ajde, pripazi iskricu na to da ne eskaliro

aben wrote:uglovnomu, ovo ča pišeš za narcise i sovcijopate,
bogami, sve me posićo no te. ajde, pripazi iskricu na to da ne eskaliro

a eto dokaza si tipično ponašanje sociopate sve izvrneš na drugoga.

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nego, jel more kakov citat za moje logične pogrješke?

pa jebote cili forum je pun tvojih logičkih pogrešaka ne da neću nego ne želim tražiti tvoje citate ima ih pun kurac tko želi neka si ih traži sam. moš mislit da ću tebi poklanjat moje vrijeme za budalaštine i tvoju komociju. listaj sam po temama.

ali, ča ni lakše nojti jednu jedinu logičku pogrješku ka ih je tako puno, nego iskati citate o narcisima po netu?

no, zaiskati ću te još jednon da citiroš moje logičke pogrješke, prije nego počnen pisati o tome ča si piso da činiš s penisićima mole dice.

zoč bi ja iska tvoje logičke pogreške? nojdi si hi som trr imoš vrimena niš ne delaš  kurcu sviroš po cile done. ja sad iman drugega pametnijega dela nego iskati tvoje logical fallacies po forumah.

zoto ča si reko da postoju. ali, ni da moroš, daleko od toga.

imoš pametnijega posla? misliš ono ča si piso, silovanje dječaka?
valjo se zoto toliko piniš kad neki frotri siluju ministrante, manje ih ostaje zo te...

pa normalno da postoju saki ih more pročitat.

kakovo vrajže silovanje sad? ne kapin ča san ja to pisa o tebi ili? ili ti opet izmišljaš monade.

Gnječ wrote:

aben wrote:uglovnomu, ovo ča pišeš za narcise i sovcijopate,
bogami, sve me posićo no te. ajde, pripazi iskricu na to da ne eskaliro

a eto dokaza si tipično ponašanje sociopate sve izvrneš na drugoga.

ok, ne bižin od toga;

ali ti govorin da si opako blizu. čaviše, i bližje omene. pitoj kogakoli drugoga kome veruješ

Nego, mene zanima jedna druga stvar danas... Nedavno su u jednoj slatkoj crkvici pokazali artisticko nadahnuce pa izveli performans s krizem i lutkicama.. Na stranu sto se nikada ne upitaju javno sto se desava s dusama abortiranih bebica casnih sestara po njihovim zupnim dvorovima, ali bas me nesto danas misli vracaju na Crkvu  i popove i to koliko ih je uopce uplatilo koju kunu za Milu.

Gnječ wrote:

aben wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

aben wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

pa jebote cili forum je pun tvojih logičkih pogrešaka ne da neću nego ne želim tražiti tvoje citate ima ih pun kurac tko želi neka si ih traži sam. moš mislit da ću tebi poklanjat moje vrijeme za budalaštine i tvoju komociju. listaj sam po temama.

ali, ča ni lakše nojti jednu jedinu logičku pogrješku ka ih je tako puno, nego iskati citate o narcisima po netu?

no, zaiskati ću te još jednon da citiroš moje logičke pogrješke, prije nego počnen pisati o tome ča si piso da činiš s penisićima mole dice.

zoč bi ja iska tvoje logičke pogreške? nojdi si hi som trr imoš vrimena niš ne delaš  kurcu sviroš po cile done. ja sad iman drugega pametnijega dela nego iskati tvoje logical fallacies po forumah.

zoto ča si reko da postoju. ali, ni da moroš, daleko od toga.

imoš pametnijega posla? misliš ono ča si piso, silovanje dječaka?
valjo se zoto toliko piniš kad neki frotri siluju ministrante, manje ih ostaje zo te...

pa normalno da postoju saki ih more pročitat.

kakovo vrajže silovanje sad? ne kapin ča san ja to pisa o tebi ili? ili ti opet izmišljaš monade.

ne izmišljun, piso si na forumu da voliš jebati maloljetne muškiće, svaki more prečitati

violator wrote:Nego, mene zanima jedna druga stvar danas... Nedavno su u jednoj slatkoj crkvici pokazali artisticko nadahnuce pa izveli performans s krizem i lutkicama.. Na stranu sto se nikada ne upitaju javno sto se desava s dusama abortiranih bebica casnih sestara po njihovim zupnim dvorovima, ali bas me nesto danas misli vracaju na Crkvu  i popove i to koliko ih je uopce uplatilo koju kunu za Milu.

gdje su sad oni crkveni štakori kreteni pro-life?

violator wrote:

bogami, ovu bolnicu u USA koju su izabrali je besramno skupa treba ju bombardirati i totalno demolirati. kako im nije neugodno naplaćivati ljekove po tako astronomsko vulgarno skupim cijenama?????

azitromicin hrvatski sumamed naplaćuju 62.72 us dolara po tableti od 250mg a  1 (jednu) tabletu sumameda od 600mg naplaćuju  105.22$ !!! pa ja ih zakoljem za tu cifru.

evo cijenik i popis ljekova u excel formatu:

https://media.chop.edu/data/files/drug-charges.xlsx

https://media.chop.edu/data/files/chargemaster-exported-12212018.xlsx

Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP)

Understanding Hospital Charges

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/billing-and-insurance/understanding-hospital-charges

aben wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

aben wrote:uglovnomu, ovo ča pišeš za narcise i sovcijopate,
bogami, sve me posićo no te. ajde, pripazi iskricu na to da ne eskaliro

a eto dokaza si tipično ponašanje sociopate sve izvrneš na drugoga.

ok, ne bižin od toga;

ali ti govorin da si opako blizu. čaviše, i bližje omene. pitoj kogakoli drugoga kome veruješ

kao što napisah u prijašnjem postu:


If you think you’re going to have a thoughtful discussion with someone who is toxic, be prepared for epic mindfuckery rather than conversational mindfulness.

Does the psychopath always win? Can one be defeated, or is running away the only choice?

The smart choice is running away. But it’s not the only choice.

Psychopaths are the supreme predator on this planet - and they’re supreme because they hide invisibly and prey on us, ‘normal’ human beings. Human beings are in turn the top predator species.

Naturally, as part of their disguise psychopaths portray themselves as anything but dangerous.

Why’s it smart to run away? Psychopaths wear a ‘mask’, blending in invisibly, looking completely normal. However, their behaviour is far from ‘normal’. Even high-functioning psychopaths have poor behavioural controls, a narrow focus on what interests them at the moment (to the exclusion of all else) and a disregard for consequences. They also have little or no fear, are largely unaffected by punishment and have contradictory and illogical speech and behaviour. They see everyone around them as objects, feel entitled to manipulate those ‘objects’, have no compassion, look out only for number one and often behave bizarrely and unpredictably.

On top of all this they’re highly manipulative, almost perfect liars and with their notorious use of twisted logic have no problem persuading a large percentage of people that black is white and white is black and that, for example, the person they’re undermining and attacking is in fact actually attacking them.

[*]In order to stand up to a psychopath we MUST research everything we can about their (biological) condition e.g. their typical behaviours, their way of looking at the world. We cannot defeat what we don’t understand.

[*]Psychopaths have spent their whole lives being extraordinarily cunning and manipulative. We cannot defeat them head to head because they will always out-manipulate and out-lie us. They will always out-charm us. They will always out-persuade the people around us. So we have to be more subtle than they are.

[*]We have to prepare to be in it for the long haul and we have to be prepared to fight tooth and nail. Tackling a psychopath is like wrestling with mercury. A psychopath is likely to see beating us as a challenge. Psychopaths are grandiose so the prospect of ‘losing’ is unlikely to cross his or her mind. Psychopaths will twist and turn and reinvent themselves with different masks on different days for different people.
They tell one bunch of people one thing and another bunch another. If they’ve decided that ‘winning’ is defeating us then all bets are off. They will forge documents, record conversations, drain our finances in any way they can, sabotage vehicles (e.g. so that we can’t get to work), indulge in protracted lawsuits, make false complaints against us, smear us to our friends and neighbours, use the passwords they copied from us years ago to break into our online accounts, turn the children against us and threaten and intimidate us. They have no conscience and as far as they’re concerned they make up their own rules.

[*]In a toxic environment we have no chance of defeating a psychopath. The toxic people around him will willingly let themselves be manipulated by the psychopath. In a healthy environment where there is a sufficient percentage of people with integrity we have a sporting chance.

Gnječ wrote:

aben wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

aben wrote:uglovnomu, ovo ča pišeš za narcise i sovcijopate,
bogami, sve me posićo no te. ajde, pripazi iskricu na to da ne eskaliro

a eto dokaza si tipično ponašanje sociopate sve izvrneš na drugoga.

ok, ne bižin od toga;

ali ti govorin da si opako blizu. čaviše, i bližje omene. pitoj kogakoli drugoga kome veruješ

kao što napisah u prijašnjem postu:


If you think you’re going to have a thoughtful discussion with someone who is toxic, be prepared for epic mindfuckery rather than conversational mindfulness.

Does the psychopath always win? Can one be defeated, or is running away the only choice?

The smart choice is running away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw2kKyJu9gY&t=131s

Can psychopaths recognize other psychopaths?

It truly depends if you are a low or high functioning psychopath at that time and if the other person you are meeting is low or high functioning as well.

Upon first meeting most psychopaths recognize each other by instinct. It's not really a logical feeling per se but you get this instinctual alarming feeling of “danger” in your gut. Like you are being preyed on. Which, for the record, you are. And is incredible uncomfortable and familiar at the same time and you can't put your finger on it since is not logical. However it depends if you're a low functioning psychopath or a high functioning psychopath.

Here's why, when you are low functioning you're not really aware that you're a psychopath and so, even though you have the subconscious qualities of a psychopath they are “dormant” and you don't really get to use them as you would if you were aware. You still remain a really logical person with highly emotional empathy recognition but you can't put your finger on this “weird vibe” you get from the other person. You will still feel it albeit not knowing the “why”. This will specially happen if the other psychopath is a high functioning individual.

If you're a high functioning psychopath it is really easy to spot another psychopath even if they don't recognize you. They usually give themselves out without ever recognizing it.

To recognize a low functioning psychopath you can look for these signs:

Slow reactions - Psychopaths are conditioned to behave in certain ways towards people, they will usually search for the best “mask” to use with you before engaging. This can sometimes take time on their end. Because they analyze the situation and search for the best “persona” to suit their needs. Most low functioning psychopaths can't really find the right persona and you will see a hole in their expressions. Aka: blank stare.

Quick example: You see them on the street and say hi and they will look at you with a fixed gaze like they're dead or high and say hi 5 segs later.

Wrong reactions - Psychopaths can't often recognize the best emotions to “wear” to appear normal. Sometimes they will laugh when they're supposed to cry.

Quick example: You're on a funeral and they will laugh or seem to smile. You've just started crying and they laugh in your face.

Disregard - They show no regard for your opinion whatsoever. This can also happen with neurotypicals but the difference here is that while a neurotypical will listen to your story and pretend to care the psychopath will write it off and walk away even if you continue to speak.

Quick example: You're talking to a psychopath and he will interrupt you and leave you hanging with no regard for your story, sometimes he can even pretend not to see you.

Their Energy - If they are a specially low functioning psychopath their energy will give them off. Instead of promoting a “warm and fuzzy” atmosphere like most high functioning psychopaths, they will project a very “uncomfortable and dangerous” type of vibe. This works as a self preservation method that is actually subconscious. It will be the type of energy you get when you see a horror movie by yourself alone at night.

Quick example: You approach them with a friendly gaze and they will look at you like you killed their cat.

Pride - Low functioning psychopaths have a ego as big as narcissists and can sometimes be quickly mistaken as one. They are boastful and suck all the air in a room with their presence. They are loud and badmouth people as easily as they can skin bunnies alive.

Quick example: You are talking to a psychopath and he will tell you stories about things in an exaggerated fashion. Narcissists also do this but when they do, they are generally doing that as fuel to feel better about themselves. However, psychopaths do this to provide a false sense of “comfort” so that they project trust and.. Sorry i forgot the word. Sometimes this serves as means of manipulation. Because of this many low functioning psychopaths appear to have narcissistic tendencies. They project the false need of validation.

No Control - Low functioning psychopaths have no control over the emotions they project. They will laugh out loud with no regard for their surroundings. They will continuously be boastful about themselves and they will display a huge ego displaying alarming signs of narcissism.

Quick example: They will crack a joke at your expenses and laugh in your face.

To recognize a high functioning psychopath you can look for these signs:

Cool, Calm And Collected - High functioning psychopaths use this “mask” at all times. They enjoy it because is effortless since they don't have to show emotion and allows them to relax and observe you without being deemed “weird” or “socially awkward”. They'll be silent at almost all times.

Emotionally Detached - They won't cry or show emotion in front of you as a normal neurotypical person would. Because they can usually turn down their feeling by choice or get them numb subconsciously.

Control - A high functioning psychopathic individual will always be in control of their perceived emotions. Never allowing them to overrun their intelligence. Also they can literally numb their feelings by choice or completely turn them down and shoot you dead without remorse. They make excellent hitmen and evil masterminds.

Regardless of being low or high functioning you can still recognize these signs in all of them:

Their Energy - Full blown psychopaths have high empathetic emotional recognition abilities. They are extremely intuitive and perceptive. And so, they can project certain emotions on you consciously or subconsciously. They can make the atmosphere “light or dark” by choice.

Fixed Gaze - Psychopaths have a fixed gaze when they are looking at you. They enjoy to fully analyze their prey. It can be very intense and probing. narcissists also have this gaze but the difference here is that narcissists will look at you and their eyes will wonder up and down because they are “sizing you up” and seeing how you react. However psychopaths will gauge your emotional depth and intensity by looking directly into your eyes for long periods of time without interruption or blinking. And it will feel absolutely uncomfortable. If you look them straight in the eyes, it might not be automatic, but you will feel a punch in your stomach and a weird feeling in your heart. Your levels of adrenaline will rise.

Abrupt Change Of Emotions - Psychopaths can numb and change emotions like you change your panties. Borderlines can also do this but the difference is that borderlines cannot choose to block the flow of emotion while psychopaths can choose to numb or block the emotion altogether. Therefore borderlines will usually fluctuate to another emotion without interruption and their behavior will escalate while psychopaths will just abruptly change emotions with ease. And they do it consciously.

Not Making Eye Contact - Most psychopaths avoid making eye contact with other people. Regardless of these people having a “normal mind” or dissociative disorders. They will usually wear sunglasses even when is not appropriate to do so. As in night time or foggy weather.

Magnetic Pull - Most psychopaths have, in fact, extremely charismatic personalities. Most narcissists think of them as “big sunny people” but most neurotypicals will see them as “Massive black holes”. None of this is right or wrong since each of them is wired differently and as such their behavior will provoke different emotional responses in people. This is actually the reason they attract narcissists since they can use this “vibe” as supply. So, regardless of the “persona” they are incorporating in your presence you will still feel drawn to them. They get this hold on you without ever uttering a single word.

Observation - Psychopaths are extremely observant. They will withhold conversation and gaze upon you instead as ways to get to know your fears and weakness and gauge your emotional control and intensity.

No Blinking - Since psychopathic people have a “fixed gaze” they will infrequently blink.

Adaptation - Psychopaths can easily blend in by creating “masks” at any given time under any circumstance. So if they are high functioning they blend seamlessly well in any social setting they find themselves into.

Eloquence - Because of their charismatic behaviour most psychopaths have the gift of eloquence ingrained in their minds since the day they are born.

They show traits of antisocial behavior - They don't go out often and show no signs of being lonely on their own. This isn't because they are antisocial at all but because they choose not to interact with others out of their own volition. In social settings they generally observe and rarely engage with anyone unless someone engages with them first. They won't make eye contact when engaging with you first.

Extremely High Self Confidence - Psychopaths are confident people. They way the walk, talk, move, exudes confidence.

High Sex Drive - You might think that psychopaths are emotionless bastards but that ain't true. They just have a way to channel emotion that no else has. However, when it comes to question of the flesh, they display high levels of libido. Some other dissociative disorders also display high libido but the difference is that while a narcissist will have a low performance in bed and the sexual intercourse will seem “mechanic”, the psychopath will actually very attuned to your responses and will be extremely intense in love making also they can withhold sex for very long periods of time.

In conclusion - To recognize a psychopath you simply have to recognize elements that reflect yourself. Also the low functioning psychopaths like to do the “stare game” to gain a hold on you. So they are really easy to spot.

dvije real life priče dvojice psihopata

Do psychopaths know they are psychopaths?

real story 1:

I think the best way to realize you are a psychopath is to try to have a relationship with someone.

I had been diagnosed with psychopathy since I was a teenager however I was never convinced about it. First, I dont consider myself to be charming, while I’m definitely good looking and turn eyes every club or bar I enter, I wasnt very good at talking and girls do come easy to me without much talking.

I was always promiscuous but didnt consider that to be a definite indicative of psychopathy since I’m not the only one in my group of friends. I did have some short term relationshipts and always lost interest but still I didnt think that was a definite indicative.

It was not until my last relationship, I exhibited exactly the behaviors of a psychopathic bond Stages of the Psychopathic Bond | Psychopaths and Love, I’m not sure why this girl triggered it, I think it was because she was very vulnerable and my psychopathic instinct could smell that. By the time I found out of the stages I was already in stage 3. The girl has suffered a lot, I tried to dump here without showing any sign of emotion. After we came back she said the most painful part was seeing my emotionless face when I was dumping here. Whenever she looked away or down I kind of felt joy and happiness, it was weird. Then I felt a rush of dopamine when I turned things around after our last breakup, and now she is more in love than ever before.

I have dumped here 3 times already, every of the time I blame it on here, and she is totally convinced all the time that is her fault and she desperately seeks for forgiveness.

I’m still with her but seeing other girls. I just accepted that she is just an object to me.

real story 2:

For a long time, you just know that you are different from pretty much everyone else with whom you come into contact. You can interact with the others, seemingly form bonds in the workplace and personally. The only issue is that in reality, you really don’t feel much of anything in the way of commonly understood human emotions.

When I was younger (around 13), I started perfecting the ability to influence and persuade others to do whatever I wished. I realized I could read people, their motivations, and especially their weaknesses very well. I remember in particular a fight with a Gifted / Talented teacher where I challenged her ability to actually teach people like us due to her mediocre grades in college. In any case, that didn’t go over as well as one might think. That aside, my main idea of fun was challenging other adults in direct mental combat in efforts to outsmart them, usually for the amusement of others in class or my friends. Eventually I was sent in for quite a few tests. One of these was an IQ test, after which they told me my IQ was 161. Looking back on it, that might not have been the best thing to share with a 13-year old.

I used the ability to see into people to pursue women. When you notice everything, every slight facial movement, every word and its particular context, you can extrapolate a great deal. You can see every weakness, ever void that they wish were filled. The relationships would come and go - I would have fun with people while they were there in front of me, but I didn’t really think about them at all when we were apart. I didn’t really “feel” anything for them. I would sometimes target people just to see if I could land them. Because we’re quite proficient with language and flattery, they would be emotionally attached very quickly. Needless to say, I did not. I really did get some amusement out of just disappearing on them. If they did come back months or years later, I viewed it as a challenge to re-hook them, knowing from the minute I picked up the phone exactly how it would inevitably end.

As an adult, I had several people over the years that I exhibited psychopathic behaviors (usually in jest, but not always). I took a version of the Hare test and scored 32–34 every time I took it, which clearly put me in “Psychopath” territory.

It is funny - although I have this issue, I am very moved by music and can be moved by scenes in films, but never by anything that happens in the real world. When significant others are sad or upset about something, I say all of the right things, but I don’t feel the feelings that they do. Oh, your relative died? That’s so horrible. I know how much he/she meant to you. What can I do to help? I say all of those things, and in the meantime, I’m thinking about what I need to do later today, or how Kim looked hot in that meeting earlier today, or maybe what I should cook later. If it was someone that I’m going out with, I wonder if this is going to get in the way of having sex later today. It’s not that I’m mean, I just don’t really care.

During my entire life, I’ve never really felt bound by any societal rules. Run a few rails of cocaine right on the launch ramp of the boat dock with the police 40 ft away? No problem. Remove all clothing while flying down the lake on a jet boat? No problem. Have sex right outside the restaurant? No problem. Steal painkillers from someone that you know has them? No problem. Couldn’t be me, I’m an affluent businessman who graduated #1 in m class in Grad School.

I did 20 years in corporate America and was very effective there. I rose from the bottom of the Marketing Department to being a Vice President responsible for multi-million dollar clients. Being psychopathic is very useful in that world. You don’t feel all of the stress and you can make decisions quickly, simply based on logic. When people are in your way, you can set up elaborate Machiavellian traps to have them removed (and you don’t care at all what happens to them afterwards). I one time went in to a bank to see if they would loan me $6MM dollars (I did prepare some materials) just on the force of my personality, charm and implied expertise. I was approved, although I couldn’t believe as it was done more or less on a bet.

I am free-roaming at the moment, owning several of my own businesses. Perhaps this is a long-winded way of addressing the question, but yes, I am well-aware of who and what I am, and I know that there is no cure for it (even if there was, I don’t think I would be interested in it). Life is amusing - why change it?

Like with any other people, they can know it, or they don´t know it at all, but most of them at least suspect there is something wrong with them and can almost put a finger on it, but not quite. It is like with any other mental disturbance. Psychopathy is not necessarily an “illness”, at least not by traditional standards. It is more like a brain variant.

Also, there is a difference between psychopathy and sociopathy. Psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. Psychopaths can be born even to the best-behaved families, and the following education or upbringing can affect their behavior very little. You see, they are born with little to no neurons in the frontal lobe (that part of your brain which is hidden behind your forehead, where all the emotions and empathy reside), so it’s more like e.g. being born with mental retardation than “choosing to be evil”. You cannot really change or do anything about it.

Sociopaths, however, are either born “cracked” or normal, but a bad upbringing or violence gradually formes them into sociopaths. They are less calculated, have limited empathy and limited conscience. Psychopaths usually don’t have any conscience at all. But both at least know that there is something wrong with them. They are just like normal people, really. Just with limited empathy and numb emotions. It does not really affect their IQ or other brain functions.

But in comparison, psychopaths usually do better in life, as they are cold in situations where it is needed. For example, lots of them are surgeons. The most common position for a psychopath is a CEO. Yep. They stand at the top of the socio-hierarchical ladder.

Pathocracy

from Greek pathos, “feeling, pain, suffering”; and kratos, “rule”

A totalitarian form of government in which absolute political power is held by a psychopathic elite, and their effect on the people is such that the entire society is ruled and motivated by purely pathological values.

A pathocracy can take many forms and can insinuate itself covertly into any seemingly just system or ideology. As such it can masquerade under the guise of a democracy or theocracy as well as more openly oppressive regimes.

Characteristics

1. suppression of individualism and creativity.
2. impoverishment of artistic values.
3. impoverishment of moral values; a social structure based on self-interest and one-upmanship, rather than altruism.
4. fanatical ideology; often a corrupted form of a valid viable ‘trojan’ ideology which is perverted into a pathological form, bearing little resemblance to the substance of the original.
5. intolerance and suspicion of anyone who is different, or who disagrees with the state.
6. centralized control.
7. widespread corruption.
8. secret activities within government, but surveillance of the general population. (In contrast, a healthy society would have transparent government processes, and respect for privacy of the individual citizen).
9. paranoid and reactionary government.
10. excessive, arbitrary, unfair and inflexible legislation; the power of decision making is reduced/removed from the citizens’ everyday lives.
11. an attitude of hypocrisy and contempt demonstrated by the actions of the ruling class, towards the ideals they claim to follow, and towards the citizens they claim to represent.
12. controlled media, dominated by propaganda.
13. extreme inequality between the richest and poorest.
14. endemic use of corrupted psychological reasoning such as paramoralisms, conversive thinking and doubletalk.
15. rule by force and/or fear of force.
16. people are considered as a ‘resource’ to be exploited (hence the term “human resources”), rather than as individuals with intrinsic human worth.
17. spiritual life is restricted to inflexible and indoctrinare schemes. Anyone attempting to go beyond these boundaries is considered a heretic or insane, and therefore dangerous.
18. arbitrary divisions in the population (class, ethnicity, creed) are inflamed into conflict with one another.
19. suppression of free speech – public debate, demonstration, protest.
20. violation of basic human rights, for example: restriction or denial of basic life necessities such as food, water, shelter; detainment without charge; torture and abuse; slave labour.

From the book ‘Political Ponerology’ (see below): in totalitarian states (full-blown ‘pathocracies’, which are nations ruled by low-conscience pathological people who typically form governments that are corrupt, authoritarian, secretive, amoral, manipulative etc.) the 1% of psychopaths have risen to the top across all areas of society after a decades long natural biological sequence (much like a weakened body gets a chill, gets a bug, gets pneumonia and then gets pleurisy) that begins when a relatively privileged section of society refuses to face repressed truths about itself (e.g. that its privileges are due to exploitation, domination, discrimination, the exclusion of others or injustices at home or abroad).
These repressed truths are blocked out through extreme egotism (superiority, entitlement, exceptionalism, contempt), twisted thinking (false logic, ignoring inconvenient facts, cleverly worded morality, blaming others) and extreme emotionalism (outrage, adulation, hair-trigger reactions to other people’s views, flag waving), this ‘hysteria’ gradually spreading across society and warping individuals’ view of reality, leading to slightly pathological individuals not being seen for what they really are.
Slowly and steadily full-blown pathology becomes invisible to large sections of society and the actions and behaviors of zero or low-conscience pathological ‘leaders’ (lying, shamelessness, lack of remorse, lack of conscience, trivialization of misdeeds, scapegoating, carefully hidden amorality, convenient masks, manipulation) become normalized.

Towards the end of the sequence an extremely egotistical and pathological ‘spellbinder’ pouring out twisted logic, twisted morality and Big Lies becomes the ‘leader’. The spellbinder is typically a malignant narcissist, psychopath or individual with damage to the frontal lobes of the brain.
If the nation doesn’t wake up then psychopaths work their way to the top, and end up controlling a widespread ‘nobility’ of 5% of extremely low-conscience and very pathological people and a ‘middle class’ of 12% of low-conscience and less pathological people - which is why all totalitarian states look the same behind their different ‘ideological masks’ and why democracies can only survive if their citizens are accurately educated about psychological matters (from ‘Political Ponerology’ by A. Lobaczewski, a clinical psychologist and member of an underground group of psychiatrists and psychologists in the former Soviet Union that studied how totalitarian states are born).

The process by which a society sickens takes many generations and is biological, each type of deviant paving the way for the next type of deviant. Typically one of the last stages is rule by a ‘spellbinder’, a pathologically egotistical individual spewing lies, twisted logic and twisted morality. A section of the population finds him fascinating and loses its critical abilites. A snowball effect occurs and finally the whole population loses its common sense.

violator wrote:Nego, mene zanima jedna druga stvar danas... Nedavno su u jednoj slatkoj crkvici pokazali artisticko nadahnuce pa izveli performans s krizem i lutkicama.. Na stranu sto se nikada ne upitaju javno sto se desava s dusama abortiranih bebica casnih sestara po njihovim zupnim dvorovima, ali bas me nesto danas misli vracaju na Crkvu  i popove i to koliko ih je uopce uplatilo koju kunu za Milu.

Abortus nije ubojstvo ako zatrudniš s onim tko dijeli oprost grijeha.  

Problem je ženi kojoj dijete napravi netko tko nema te ovlasti. E onda je to ubojstvo. 

Na ovo drugo svi znamo odgovor. Besmisleno je uopće očekivati takvo što.

Kakav je stav vezan uz doniranje organa?

mativka wrote:Kakav je stav vezan uz doniranje organa?

Moj stav je veliko DA. 

Tijelo je privremeno boravište duše i to je zapravo njegova najvažnija uloga.  
Kad nastupi smrt, ono više nema tu funkciju i ako može poslužiti bilo kakvom boljitku onima koji još žive, neka ga iskoriste. 

To ne znači da dok živimo smijemo zanemariti ili uništavati svoje tijelo. Dapače, privremeni dom duše treba njegovati. I voljeti.