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Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by Hektorović 21/1/2019, 18:00
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/424511-managing-russias-dissolution
Managing Russia's dissolution
Russia’s ongoing attacks on Ukraine and its persistent subversion of Western states demonstrates that Washington and Brussels have failed to restrain Moscow’s imperial ambitions.
Engagement, criticism and limited sanctions have simply reinforced Kremlin perceptions that the West is weak and predictable. To curtail Moscow’s neo-imperialism a new strategy is needed, one that nourishes Russia’s decline and manages the international consequences of its dissolution.
Russia is more fragile than it appears, and the West is stronger than it is portrayed. Under the regime of Vladimir Putin, which will soon enter its third decade, the country has transitioned from an emerging democracy to an unstable authoritarianism.
Although Moscow has failed to modernize its economy to be globally competitive, the Kremlin excels in one domain — disinformation — through which it portrays the country as a rising power on a level with the U.S.
In reality, Russia is a declining state that disguises its internal infirmities with external offensives. Russia’s economy is stagnating. According to World Bank statistics for 2017, Russia’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) per capita ranks 62nd in the world.
Even the defense budget is shrinking and barely reaches a tenth of the U.S. Through a combination of low fossil fuel prices, infrastructural decay, pervasive corruption and Western financial sanctions, state revenues are declining, living standards are falling, social conflicts are intensifying and regional disquiet is mounting.
Although economic performance alone is insufficient to measure susceptibility to collapse, rising social, ethnic and regional pressures indicate that Russia is heading toward fragmentation.
Russia has failed to develop into a nation state with a strong ethnic or civic identity. It remains an imperial construct due to its Tsarist and Soviet heritage.
The unwieldy Russian Federation consists of 85 “federal subjects,” of which 22 are republics representing non-Russian ethnicities, including the North Caucasus and Middle Volga, and numerous regions with distinct identities that feel increasingly estranged from Moscow.
Instead of pursuing decentralization to accommodate regional aspirations, the Kremlin is downgrading their autonomy. This is evident in the new language law designed to promote "Russification" and plans to merge and eliminate several regions.
Pressure is mounting across the country, with growing anger at local governors appointed by the Kremlin and resentment that Moscow appropriates their resources. Indeed, regions such as Sakha and Magadan in the far east, with their substantial mineral wealth, could be successful states without Moscow’s exploitation.
Emerging states will benefit from forging closer economic and political contacts with neighboring countries rather than depending on Moscow, whose federal budget is drastically shrinking. Collapsing infrastructure means that residents of Siberia and Russia’s far east will become even more separated from the center, thus encouraging demands for secession and sovereignty.
Given Russia’s ailments, an assertive Western approach would be more effective than reactive defense. Washington needs to return to core principles that accompanied the collapse of the Soviet Union by supporting democratization, pluralism, minority rights, genuine federalism, decentralization and regional self-determination among Russia’s disparate regions and ethnic groups.
While Moscow seeks to divide the West and fracture the EU and North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) by backing nationalist and separatist parties in Europe, Washington should promote regional and ethnic self-determination inside the Russian Federation. This would send a strong signal that the West is fully capable of reacting to Moscow’s subversion.
The rationale for dissolution should be logically framed: In order to survive, Russia needs a federal democracy and a robust economy; with no democratization on the horizon and economic conditions deteriorating, the federal structure will become increasingly ungovernable.
To manage the process of dissolution and lessen the likelihood of conflict that spills over state borders, the West needs to establish links with Russia’s diverse regions and promote their peaceful transition toward statehood.
NATO should prepare contingencies for both the dangers and the opportunities that Russia’s fragmentation will present. In particular, Moscow’s European neighbors must be provided with sufficient security to shield themselves from the most destabilizing scenarios while preparations are made for engaging with emerging post-Russia entities.
Some regions could join countries such as Finland, Ukraine, China and Japan, from whom Moscow has forcefully appropriated territories in the past. Other republics in the North Caucasus, Middle Volga, Siberia and the far east could become fully independent states and forge relations with China, Japan, the U.S. and Europe.
Neglecting Russia’s dissolution may prove more damaging to Western interests than making preparations to manage its international repercussions. To avoid sudden geopolitical jolts and possible military confrontations, Washington needs to monitor and encourage a peaceful rupture and establish links with emerging entities.
The sudden collapse of the Soviet Union should serve as a lesson that far-reaching transformations occur regardless of the Kremlin’s disinformation campaigns or the West’s shortsighted adherence to a transient status quo.
Janusz Bugajski is a senior fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) in Washington, D.C. His recent book, co-authored with Margarita Assenova, is "Eurasian Disunion: Russia’s Vulnerable Flanks," (Jamestown, 2016).
Managing Russia's dissolution
Russia’s ongoing attacks on Ukraine and its persistent subversion of Western states demonstrates that Washington and Brussels have failed to restrain Moscow’s imperial ambitions.
Engagement, criticism and limited sanctions have simply reinforced Kremlin perceptions that the West is weak and predictable. To curtail Moscow’s neo-imperialism a new strategy is needed, one that nourishes Russia’s decline and manages the international consequences of its dissolution.
Russia is more fragile than it appears, and the West is stronger than it is portrayed. Under the regime of Vladimir Putin, which will soon enter its third decade, the country has transitioned from an emerging democracy to an unstable authoritarianism.
Although Moscow has failed to modernize its economy to be globally competitive, the Kremlin excels in one domain — disinformation — through which it portrays the country as a rising power on a level with the U.S.
In reality, Russia is a declining state that disguises its internal infirmities with external offensives. Russia’s economy is stagnating. According to World Bank statistics for 2017, Russia’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) per capita ranks 62nd in the world.
Even the defense budget is shrinking and barely reaches a tenth of the U.S. Through a combination of low fossil fuel prices, infrastructural decay, pervasive corruption and Western financial sanctions, state revenues are declining, living standards are falling, social conflicts are intensifying and regional disquiet is mounting.
Although economic performance alone is insufficient to measure susceptibility to collapse, rising social, ethnic and regional pressures indicate that Russia is heading toward fragmentation.
Russia has failed to develop into a nation state with a strong ethnic or civic identity. It remains an imperial construct due to its Tsarist and Soviet heritage.
The unwieldy Russian Federation consists of 85 “federal subjects,” of which 22 are republics representing non-Russian ethnicities, including the North Caucasus and Middle Volga, and numerous regions with distinct identities that feel increasingly estranged from Moscow.
Instead of pursuing decentralization to accommodate regional aspirations, the Kremlin is downgrading their autonomy. This is evident in the new language law designed to promote "Russification" and plans to merge and eliminate several regions.
Pressure is mounting across the country, with growing anger at local governors appointed by the Kremlin and resentment that Moscow appropriates their resources. Indeed, regions such as Sakha and Magadan in the far east, with their substantial mineral wealth, could be successful states without Moscow’s exploitation.
Emerging states will benefit from forging closer economic and political contacts with neighboring countries rather than depending on Moscow, whose federal budget is drastically shrinking. Collapsing infrastructure means that residents of Siberia and Russia’s far east will become even more separated from the center, thus encouraging demands for secession and sovereignty.
Given Russia’s ailments, an assertive Western approach would be more effective than reactive defense. Washington needs to return to core principles that accompanied the collapse of the Soviet Union by supporting democratization, pluralism, minority rights, genuine federalism, decentralization and regional self-determination among Russia’s disparate regions and ethnic groups.
While Moscow seeks to divide the West and fracture the EU and North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) by backing nationalist and separatist parties in Europe, Washington should promote regional and ethnic self-determination inside the Russian Federation. This would send a strong signal that the West is fully capable of reacting to Moscow’s subversion.
The rationale for dissolution should be logically framed: In order to survive, Russia needs a federal democracy and a robust economy; with no democratization on the horizon and economic conditions deteriorating, the federal structure will become increasingly ungovernable.
To manage the process of dissolution and lessen the likelihood of conflict that spills over state borders, the West needs to establish links with Russia’s diverse regions and promote their peaceful transition toward statehood.
NATO should prepare contingencies for both the dangers and the opportunities that Russia’s fragmentation will present. In particular, Moscow’s European neighbors must be provided with sufficient security to shield themselves from the most destabilizing scenarios while preparations are made for engaging with emerging post-Russia entities.
Some regions could join countries such as Finland, Ukraine, China and Japan, from whom Moscow has forcefully appropriated territories in the past. Other republics in the North Caucasus, Middle Volga, Siberia and the far east could become fully independent states and forge relations with China, Japan, the U.S. and Europe.
Neglecting Russia’s dissolution may prove more damaging to Western interests than making preparations to manage its international repercussions. To avoid sudden geopolitical jolts and possible military confrontations, Washington needs to monitor and encourage a peaceful rupture and establish links with emerging entities.
The sudden collapse of the Soviet Union should serve as a lesson that far-reaching transformations occur regardless of the Kremlin’s disinformation campaigns or the West’s shortsighted adherence to a transient status quo.
Janusz Bugajski is a senior fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA) in Washington, D.C. His recent book, co-authored with Margarita Assenova, is "Eurasian Disunion: Russia’s Vulnerable Flanks," (Jamestown, 2016).
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by epikur37 21/1/2019, 18:09
Evo Jalnusa... inace jutarnji ga je znao prenositi. Toliko o nasim medijima.
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by Hektorović 21/1/2019, 18:16
epikur37 wrote:Evo Jalnusa... inace jutarnji ga je znao prenositi. Toliko o nasim medijima.
Zadnje dvije tri godine počeo se je manje baviti balkanom, kako to pitanje više nije aktualno, sad je opet stručan za Rusiju...
Naša sreća u jednu ruku :)
Nego, u Rusiji je 80% Rusa, a nikoga drugoga nema preko 4%, a većinom su oko 0-5-1%... Tako da teško... Čečeni su još imali najbolju poziciju...
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by Guest 21/1/2019, 18:19
pusti snovi nemocnih i pateticnih..gledat ce Rusiju sve do svoje smrti.. 
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by AssadNaPodmornici 21/1/2019, 18:34
zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
ja
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
ja
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by abraham 21/1/2019, 18:43
AssadNaPodmornici wrote:zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
ja
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by Ringo10 21/1/2019, 19:12
Niko ozbiljan ni ne misli da ce BRIKS ili bilo ko unistiti Ameriku. Ameriku ce unistiti sama americka politicka elita ali do tada cemo se nacekati.AssadNaPodmornici wrote:zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
A sto se tice unistenja Rusije Amerikanci i ne kriju da im je to cilj. Rusiji je sreca sto ima taj arsenal nuklearni inace bi je Anglosaksonci unistili a nad ruskim narodom sproveli istrebljenje i genocid.
Imaju oni iskustva u tome. To je najzlocinackija bagra u povijesti covjecanstva.
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2015-09-24
Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by marcellus 21/1/2019, 19:13
Ringo10 wrote:Niko ozbiljan ni ne misli da ce BRIKS ili bilo ko unistiti Ameriku. Ameriku ce unistiti sama americka politicka elita ali do tada cemo se nacekati.AssadNaPodmornici wrote:zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
A sto se tice unistenja Rusije Amerikanci i ne kriju da im je to cilj. Rusiji je sreca sto ima taj arsenal nuklearni inace bi je Anglosaksonci unistili a nad ruskim narodom sproveli istrebljenje i genocid.
Imaju oni iskustva u tome. To je najzlocinackija bagra u povijesti covjecanstva.
zato si ti koji mrziš anglosaksonce i kapitalizam zbriso u anglosaksonsku državu i posto kapitalist
"nije licemjerje kad mi to radimo"
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by abraham 21/1/2019, 19:57
Zalosno je da nekome odraslom i relativno normalnom covjek mora objasnjavati da su stvari iste od 1917-te. Manje-vise. Bilo kako bilo americi trebaju rusi kao sta ime je trebao CCCP. Putina bi oni sami izmislili ako vec i nisu. Rusija je najbolji americki trgovacki putnik, da pojednostavnim stvari. Sada sta ce par stotina tisuca izgubiti glavu, dom i sl je , jebi ga , uracunato u zavrsnu sumu. Rusi takodjer ne bi imali smisla bez USA. Oni tako trguju u svome domenu i dometu i to je to. Svi zadovoljni. Netko najebo ali .. Kila mozga.....
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by abraham 21/1/2019, 19:59
Sve neki kvazi ljevicari i socijalisti a svi nagulili u najgore kapitalisticke zemlje i jos se petama u guzicu udaraju. Kod kuce ponosno Titinu bistu , kada raja navrati a na poslu jezik za zube i riljaj. Kila mozga....
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by Guest 21/1/2019, 20:34
abraham wrote:Sve neki kvazi ljevicari i socijalisti a svi nagulili u najgore kapitalisticke zemlje i jos se petama u guzicu udaraju. Kod kuce ponosno Titinu bistu , kada raja navrati a na poslu jezik za zube i riljaj. Kila mozga....
Anglosaksonski zlikovci i dragi nikadučinilizla Rusi.
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by Ringo10 22/1/2019, 01:48
Ko mrtzi ANglosaksonce?marcellus wrote:Ringo10 wrote:Niko ozbiljan ni ne misli da ce BRIKS ili bilo ko unistiti Ameriku. Ameriku ce unistiti sama americka politicka elita ali do tada cemo se nacekati.AssadNaPodmornici wrote:zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
A sto se tice unistenja Rusije Amerikanci i ne kriju da im je to cilj. Rusiji je sreca sto ima taj arsenal nuklearni inace bi je Anglosaksonci unistili a nad ruskim narodom sproveli istrebljenje i genocid.
Imaju oni iskustva u tome. To je najzlocinackija bagra u povijesti covjecanstva.
zato si ti koji mrziš anglosaksonce i kapitalizam zbriso u anglosaksonsku državu i posto kapitalist
"nije licemjerje kad mi to radimo"
Anglosaksonci su odigrali nemjerljivu ulogu u povijesti civilizacije.
A kao ljudi su sasvim OK i od njih te gtlava nece boljeti.
Ali politicke elite su im jedna od najgorih stvari koje su svijet mogle zadesiti/
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by Guest 22/1/2019, 01:51
Ringo10 wrote:Ko mrtzi ANglosaksonce?marcellus wrote:Ringo10 wrote:Niko ozbiljan ni ne misli da ce BRIKS ili bilo ko unistiti Ameriku. Ameriku ce unistiti sama americka politicka elita ali do tada cemo se nacekati.AssadNaPodmornici wrote:zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
A sto se tice unistenja Rusije Amerikanci i ne kriju da im je to cilj. Rusiji je sreca sto ima taj arsenal nuklearni inace bi je Anglosaksonci unistili a nad ruskim narodom sproveli istrebljenje i genocid.
Imaju oni iskustva u tome. To je najzlocinackija bagra u povijesti covjecanstva.
zato si ti koji mrziš anglosaksonce i kapitalizam zbriso u anglosaksonsku državu i posto kapitalist
"nije licemjerje kad mi to radimo"
Anglosaksonci su odigrali nemjerljivu ulogu u povijesti civilizacije.
A kao ljudi su sasvim OK i od njih te gtlava nece boljeti.
Ali politicke elite su im jedna od najgorih stvari koje su svijet mogle zadesiti/
a odakle im dolaze politicke elite,ako ne iz naroda...??isto kao i na Balkanu..svi se cude kako su vlasti lopovske,korumpirane ovake i onakve,a samo poduzetniji primjerci tog istog naroda zasjedaju na vlast...e jebi ga...cist logika..
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Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by vuksadinare 22/1/2019, 04:28
ajd da se slozim sa tobom..i zato meni ide definitivno na kurac kad nas covjek nekog kritizira..a ko god dodje na vlast lopov ovakav onakav..pa i on je prije bio obican vjetojatno je prije slicno govorio drz lopova..a kad je upao u fotelju tj med iznebuha se promjenio..nije bzv ona poslovica..daj covjeku fotelju pa ces vidjeti kakav jepismejker wrote:Ringo10 wrote:Ko mrtzi ANglosaksonce?marcellus wrote:Ringo10 wrote:Niko ozbiljan ni ne misli da ce BRIKS ili bilo ko unistiti Ameriku. Ameriku ce unistiti sama americka politicka elita ali do tada cemo se nacekati.AssadNaPodmornici wrote:zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
A sto se tice unistenja Rusije Amerikanci i ne kriju da im je to cilj. Rusiji je sreca sto ima taj arsenal nuklearni inace bi je Anglosaksonci unistili a nad ruskim narodom sproveli istrebljenje i genocid.
Imaju oni iskustva u tome. To je najzlocinackija bagra u povijesti covjecanstva.
zato si ti koji mrziš anglosaksonce i kapitalizam zbriso u anglosaksonsku državu i posto kapitalist
"nije licemjerje kad mi to radimo"
Anglosaksonci su odigrali nemjerljivu ulogu u povijesti civilizacije.
A kao ljudi su sasvim OK i od njih te gtlava nece boljeti.
Ali politicke elite su im jedna od najgorih stvari koje su svijet mogle zadesiti/
a odakle im dolaze politicke elite,ako ne iz naroda...??isto kao i na Balkanu..svi se cude kako su vlasti lopovske,korumpirane ovake i onakve,a samo poduzetniji primjerci tog istog naroda zasjedaju na vlast...e jebi ga...cist logika..
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2015-09-08
Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by vuksadinare 22/1/2019, 04:31
Pa onda cudjenje...nije bio on prije takav zasto je sad ovakav..i dolazimo onda do te poslovice o fotelji...moc je slatka ali zajebana stvar...ako te preuzme i ako ne znas postaviti granicu mozes biti turbo megativac a prije svega toga si mozda bio ok
vuksadinare- Posts : 100240
2015-09-08
Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by vuksadinare 22/1/2019, 04:37
Evo sinoc nas ti zapadnjacki suci opljackase u maniri pljackasa sa divljeg zapada...ali jbg...oni imaju peneze i samim time su pozitivci...negativac je onaj koji nema peneze kao ovi jer se ovom prvom ne smijes zamjeriti jer ostanes bez njihove milostinje..jel tak pismejker,ringo... 
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2015-09-08
Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by Ringo10 22/1/2019, 04:51
Ne, ljudima svi rezimi ispiraju mozgove. Zato i treba razlikovati svjesne rezime od nesvjesnih masa.pismejker wrote:Ringo10 wrote:Ko mrtzi ANglosaksonce?marcellus wrote:Ringo10 wrote:Niko ozbiljan ni ne misli da ce BRIKS ili bilo ko unistiti Ameriku. Ameriku ce unistiti sama americka politicka elita ali do tada cemo se nacekati.AssadNaPodmornici wrote:zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
A sto se tice unistenja Rusije Amerikanci i ne kriju da im je to cilj. Rusiji je sreca sto ima taj arsenal nuklearni inace bi je Anglosaksonci unistili a nad ruskim narodom sproveli istrebljenje i genocid.
Imaju oni iskustva u tome. To je najzlocinackija bagra u povijesti covjecanstva.
zato si ti koji mrziš anglosaksonce i kapitalizam zbriso u anglosaksonsku državu i posto kapitalist
"nije licemjerje kad mi to radimo"
Anglosaksonci su odigrali nemjerljivu ulogu u povijesti civilizacije.
A kao ljudi su sasvim OK i od njih te gtlava nece boljeti.
Ali politicke elite su im jedna od najgorih stvari koje su svijet mogle zadesiti/
a odakle im dolaze politicke elite,ako ne iz naroda...??isto kao i na Balkanu..svi se cude kako su vlasti lopovske,korumpirane ovake i onakve,a samo poduzetniji primjerci tog istog naroda zasjedaju na vlast...e jebi ga...cist logika..
Osim toga ni sve anglosaksonske zemlje nisu iste. Da imaju onih PET OCIJU, ali Kanada, Australia i Nivi Zeland ne vode imperijalisticku politiku i ne mnogu se usporedjivati sa Americkom i engleskom imperijom.
Styo se mene tice, Zapad mi je onemogucio egzistenciju u BiH a kako se nisam htio asimilirati niti biti gradjanin treceg reda, to sam i otisao. I njihova je obaveza da prime sve poput mene.
Prema tome ja ne dugujem nikome nista.
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2015-09-24
Re: Januž Bugajski: Rusiju trebamo podjeliti
by marcellus 22/1/2019, 04:53
Ringo10 wrote:Ko mrtzi ANglosaksonce?marcellus wrote:Ringo10 wrote:Niko ozbiljan ni ne misli da ce BRIKS ili bilo ko unistiti Ameriku. Ameriku ce unistiti sama americka politicka elita ali do tada cemo se nacekati.AssadNaPodmornici wrote:zapadni mediji i zapadni trolovi
"rusiju treba podjeliti, rusija se raspada, rusija gotova"
ruski mediji i ruski trolovi
"propada amerika, propada amerika, brics će poraziti ameriku i novi zlatni dinar će poraziti dolar"
A sto se tice unistenja Rusije Amerikanci i ne kriju da im je to cilj. Rusiji je sreca sto ima taj arsenal nuklearni inace bi je Anglosaksonci unistili a nad ruskim narodom sproveli istrebljenje i genocid.
Imaju oni iskustva u tome. To je najzlocinackija bagra u povijesti covjecanstva.
zato si ti koji mrziš anglosaksonce i kapitalizam zbriso u anglosaksonsku državu i posto kapitalist
"nije licemjerje kad mi to radimo"
Anglosaksonci su odigrali nemjerljivu ulogu u povijesti civilizacije.
A kao ljudi su sasvim OK i od njih te gtlava nece boljeti.
Ali politicke elite su im jedna od najgorih stvari koje su svijet mogle zadesiti/
političke elite ne padaju s marsa, one su slika i prilika nacije. Čak i neizabrane.
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2014-04-16
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