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By Vladimir Isachenkov | AP
December 27 at 10:24 AM
MOSCOW — Russia’s new strategic weapon has rendered any missile defenses useless at a small fraction of their cost, officials said Thursday.
The Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle flies 27 times faster than the speed of sound, making it impossible to intercept, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told Russian state television.
The new weapon “essentially makes missile defenses useless,” he said.
Borisov spoke a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin oversaw what he described as the conclusive successful test of the Avangard and hailed it as a reliable guarantee of Russia’s security for decades to come.
In Wednesday’s test, the weapon was launched from the Dombarovskiy missile base in the southern Ural Mountains. The Kremlin said it successfully hit a practice target on the Kura shooting range on Kamchatka, 6,000 kilometers (3,700 miles) away.
The Defense Ministry released footage from the test launch, in which a ballistic missile could be seen blasting from a silo in a cloud of smoke, but it hasn’t released any images of the vehicle itself.
Putin said the Avangard will enter service with the Russian Strategic Missile Forces next year.
The test comes amid bitter tensions in Russia-U.S. relations, which have been strained over the Ukrainian crisis, the war in Syria and the allegations of Moscow’s meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
Sergei Ivanov, a former Russian defense minister, said in televised comments that the Avangard constantly changes its course and altitude as it flies through the atmosphere.
He emphasized that unlike previous nuclear warheads fitted to intercontinental ballistic missiles that follow a predictable trajectory allowing it to calculate the spot where they can be intercepted, the Avangard chaotically zigzags on its path to its target, making it impossible to predict the weapon’s location.
A smiling Ivanov likened the weapon’s flight through the atmosphere to a pebble skipping off the surface of water.
Ivanov, who now serves as Putin’s adviser, said the Avangard could be fitted to the Soviet-made UR-100UTTKh intercontinental ballistic missile, which is code-named SS-19 Stiletto by NATO.
He noted that Russia has a stockpile of several dozen such missiles, which are in a factory-mint condition and not filled with fuel, allowing them to serve for a long time to come. Ivanov added that they could be put in existing silos, sharply reducing the costs of Avangard’s deployment.
“The Avangard has cost hundreds of times less than what the U.S. has spent on its missile defense,” Ivanov said.
He noted that Russia began to develop the Avangard after the 2002 U.S. withdrew from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and started to develop defenses against ballistic missiles.
Moscow feared that the U.S. missile shield could erode its nuclear deterrent, and Putin announced in 2004 that Russia was working on a new hypersonic weapon.
Ivanov recalled that when Russian officials warned their U.S. counterparts about the new weapon program at the time, American officials were openly skeptical about Russia’s ability to carry out its plan.
“We aren’t involved in saber-rattling, we simply ensured our security for decades to come,” he said.
Copyright 2018 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
December 27 at 10:24 AM
MOSCOW — Russia’s new strategic weapon has rendered any missile defenses useless at a small fraction of their cost, officials said Thursday.
The Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle flies 27 times faster than the speed of sound, making it impossible to intercept, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told Russian state television.
The new weapon “essentially makes missile defenses useless,” he said.
Borisov spoke a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin oversaw what he described as the conclusive successful test of the Avangard and hailed it as a reliable guarantee of Russia’s security for decades to come.
In Wednesday’s test, the weapon was launched from the Dombarovskiy missile base in the southern Ural Mountains. The Kremlin said it successfully hit a practice target on the Kura shooting range on Kamchatka, 6,000 kilometers (3,700 miles) away.
The Defense Ministry released footage from the test launch, in which a ballistic missile could be seen blasting from a silo in a cloud of smoke, but it hasn’t released any images of the vehicle itself.
Putin said the Avangard will enter service with the Russian Strategic Missile Forces next year.
The test comes amid bitter tensions in Russia-U.S. relations, which have been strained over the Ukrainian crisis, the war in Syria and the allegations of Moscow’s meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
Sergei Ivanov, a former Russian defense minister, said in televised comments that the Avangard constantly changes its course and altitude as it flies through the atmosphere.
He emphasized that unlike previous nuclear warheads fitted to intercontinental ballistic missiles that follow a predictable trajectory allowing it to calculate the spot where they can be intercepted, the Avangard chaotically zigzags on its path to its target, making it impossible to predict the weapon’s location.
A smiling Ivanov likened the weapon’s flight through the atmosphere to a pebble skipping off the surface of water.
Ivanov, who now serves as Putin’s adviser, said the Avangard could be fitted to the Soviet-made UR-100UTTKh intercontinental ballistic missile, which is code-named SS-19 Stiletto by NATO.
He noted that Russia has a stockpile of several dozen such missiles, which are in a factory-mint condition and not filled with fuel, allowing them to serve for a long time to come. Ivanov added that they could be put in existing silos, sharply reducing the costs of Avangard’s deployment.
“The Avangard has cost hundreds of times less than what the U.S. has spent on its missile defense,” Ivanov said.
He noted that Russia began to develop the Avangard after the 2002 U.S. withdrew from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and started to develop defenses against ballistic missiles.
Moscow feared that the U.S. missile shield could erode its nuclear deterrent, and Putin announced in 2004 that Russia was working on a new hypersonic weapon.
Ivanov recalled that when Russian officials warned their U.S. counterparts about the new weapon program at the time, American officials were openly skeptical about Russia’s ability to carry out its plan.
“We aren’t involved in saber-rattling, we simply ensured our security for decades to come,” he said.
Copyright 2018 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Hektorović- Posts : 26373
2018-04-10
Re: Putin zapovjedio iznenadno lansiranje Avangarda
Leviathan2 wrote:
da, a mogli su ga poslat par krugova oko zemlje, da se malo ameri zapjene :)
Teško, pa raketa još uvijek nije Sarmat nego stari neiskorišteni UR-100NUTTH koji su izvladili iz skladišta... Domet je 10.000km
Imaju 30tak UR-100NUTTH u skladištima, i njega će koristiti u sljedećih 7-8godina...
Hektorović- Posts : 26373
2018-04-10
Re: Putin zapovjedio iznenadno lansiranje Avangarda
kolko znam, avangard je hipersonicni krstareci projektil a raketa mu sluzi samo kod lansiranja i nebitan joj je domet, nakon sto se odvoji od nosaca on zapocinje vlastiti let do cilja i tek pred ciljem lansira bojeve glaveHektorović wrote:Leviathan2 wrote:
da, a mogli su ga poslat par krugova oko zemlje, da se malo ameri zapjene :)
Teško, pa raketa još uvijek nije Sarmat nego stari neiskorišteni UR-100NUTTH koji su izvladili iz skladišta... Domet je 10.000km
Imaju 30tak UR-100NUTTH u skladištima, i njega će koristiti u sljedećih 7-8godina...
sarmat je jedinica za sebe, on je balistiki projektil koji ima puno manje mogucnosti manevriranja, kindzal je isto supersonicni projektil koji se lansira iz aviona ali ima manju brzinu i ne moze nosit vise nuklearnih glava kao avangard
rusi su napravil malo pimutnje s tim svim pa ljudi mjesaju sarmat i avangard
avangard, - lansirna raketa koj ga dize na visinu i odredjenu brzinu do odvajanja hiperzvucnog vozila koje onda putuje na vlastiti pogon u plazmenom omotacu,
za lansirnu raketu moze biti upotrijebljena bilao koja od teskih raketa nosaca ako je modificirana, samo hiperzvucno vozilo ne moze postici brzinu iz mjesta kao samolansirajuci blok
tako isto i kindzal ako bude napravljena lansirna rampa na brodovima i kopnu ce morati imat startni pogon koji ce se odvajat kad kindzal dostigne odredjenu brzinu s tim da kindzal ima drugaciji pogon za razliku od avangardovog hiperzvucnog bloka tako ako bi ga lansirao iz mjesta s njegovim pogonom, smanjio bi mu domet za ohoho
mislim da rusi imaju pandan kindzala na brodovima, zircon
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Leviathan2 wrote:
kolko znam, avangard je hipersonicni krstareci projektil a raketa mu sluzi samo kod lansiranja i nebitan joj je domet, nakon sto se odvoji od nosaca on zapocinje vlastiti let do cilja i tek pred ciljem lansira bojeve glave
sarmat je jedinica za sebe, on je balistiki projektil koji ima puno manje mogucnosti manevriranja, kindzal je isto supersonicni projektil koji se lansira iz aviona ali ima manju brzinu i ne moze nosit vise nuklearnih glava kao avangard
rusi su napravil malo pimutnje s tim svim pa ljudi mjesaju sarmat i avangard
avangard, - lansirna raketa koj ga dize na visinu i odredjenu brzinu do odvajanja hiperzvucnog vozila koje onda putuje na vlastiti pogon u plazmenom omotacu,
za lansirnu raketu moze biti upotrijebljena bilao koja od teskih raketa nosaca ako je modificirana, samo hiperzvucno vozilo ne moze postici brzinu iz mjesta kao samolansirajuci blok
tako isto i kindzal ako bude napravljena lansirna rampa na brodovima i kopnu ce morati imat startni pogon koji ce se odvajat kad kindzal dostigne odredjenu brzinu s tim da kindzal ima drugaciji pogon za razliku od avangardovog hiperzvucnog bloka tako ako bi ga lansirao iz mjesta s njegovim pogonom, smanjio bi mu domet za ohoho
mislim da rusi imaju pandan kindzala na brodovima, zircon
Jok, HGV, dakle glider iltiga jedrilica...
Hektorović- Posts : 26373
2018-04-10
Re: Putin zapovjedio iznenadno lansiranje Avangarda
nije jedrilica, ima vlastiti pogon, jedino moze bit glajder u smislu da klize s pomocu plazmenog omotaca koji ponistava trenjeHektorović wrote:Leviathan2 wrote:
kolko znam, avangard je hipersonicni krstareci projektil a raketa mu sluzi samo kod lansiranja i nebitan joj je domet, nakon sto se odvoji od nosaca on zapocinje vlastiti let do cilja i tek pred ciljem lansira bojeve glave
sarmat je jedinica za sebe, on je balistiki projektil koji ima puno manje mogucnosti manevriranja, kindzal je isto supersonicni projektil koji se lansira iz aviona ali ima manju brzinu i ne moze nosit vise nuklearnih glava kao avangard
rusi su napravil malo pimutnje s tim svim pa ljudi mjesaju sarmat i avangard
avangard, - lansirna raketa koj ga dize na visinu i odredjenu brzinu do odvajanja hiperzvucnog vozila koje onda putuje na vlastiti pogon u plazmenom omotacu,
za lansirnu raketu moze biti upotrijebljena bilao koja od teskih raketa nosaca ako je modificirana, samo hiperzvucno vozilo ne moze postici brzinu iz mjesta kao samolansirajuci blok
tako isto i kindzal ako bude napravljena lansirna rampa na brodovima i kopnu ce morati imat startni pogon koji ce se odvajat kad kindzal dostigne odredjenu brzinu s tim da kindzal ima drugaciji pogon za razliku od avangardovog hiperzvucnog bloka tako ako bi ga lansirao iz mjesta s njegovim pogonom, smanjio bi mu domet za ohoho
mislim da rusi imaju pandan kindzala na brodovima, zircon
Jok, HGV, dakle glider iltiga jedrilica...
zato i moze dostici 27 macha koliko navode rusi
princip skvala u moru koji klize u zracnom omotacu
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Ero i Jemeri fibriliraju...Leviathan2 wrote:nije jedrilica, ima vlastiti pogon, jedino moze bit glajder u smislu da klize s pomocu plazmenog omotaca koji ponistava trenjeHektorović wrote:Leviathan2 wrote:
kolko znam, avangard je hipersonicni krstareci projektil a raketa mu sluzi samo kod lansiranja i nebitan joj je domet, nakon sto se odvoji od nosaca on zapocinje vlastiti let do cilja i tek pred ciljem lansira bojeve glave
sarmat je jedinica za sebe, on je balistiki projektil koji ima puno manje mogucnosti manevriranja, kindzal je isto supersonicni projektil koji se lansira iz aviona ali ima manju brzinu i ne moze nosit vise nuklearnih glava kao avangard
rusi su napravil malo pimutnje s tim svim pa ljudi mjesaju sarmat i avangard
avangard, - lansirna raketa koj ga dize na visinu i odredjenu brzinu do odvajanja hiperzvucnog vozila koje onda putuje na vlastiti pogon u plazmenom omotacu,
za lansirnu raketu moze biti upotrijebljena bilao koja od teskih raketa nosaca ako je modificirana, samo hiperzvucno vozilo ne moze postici brzinu iz mjesta kao samolansirajuci blok
tako isto i kindzal ako bude napravljena lansirna rampa na brodovima i kopnu ce morati imat startni pogon koji ce se odvajat kad kindzal dostigne odredjenu brzinu s tim da kindzal ima drugaciji pogon za razliku od avangardovog hiperzvucnog bloka tako ako bi ga lansirao iz mjesta s njegovim pogonom, smanjio bi mu domet za ohoho
mislim da rusi imaju pandan kindzala na brodovima, zircon
Jok, HGV, dakle glider iltiga jedrilica...
zato i moze dostici 27 macha koliko navode rusi
princip skvala u moru koji klize u zracnom omotacu
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Hektorović wrote:By Vladimir Isachenkov | AP
December 27 at 10:24 AM
MOSCOW — Russia’s new strategic weapon has rendered any missile defenses useless at a small fraction of their cost, officials said Thursday.
The Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle flies 27 times faster than the speed of sound, making it impossible to intercept, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov told Russian state television.
The new weapon “essentially makes missile defenses useless,” he said.
Borisov spoke a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin oversaw what he described as the conclusive successful test of the Avangard and hailed it as a reliable guarantee of Russia’s security for decades to come.
“The Avangard has cost hundreds of times less than what the U.S. has spent on its missile defense,” Ivanov said.
“We aren’t involved in saber-rattling, we simply ensured our security for decades to come,” he said.
Jasno i glasno
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Yehudim- Posts : 4913
2018-03-06
Re: Putin zapovjedio iznenadno lansiranje Avangarda
trebalo bi križariticrvenkasti wrote:Kako može krstariti i letjeti 10 puta brže od zvuka?
Pa 'krstarenje' znači polagani obilazak, tako nešto ...
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