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Post by kic 2/7/2018, 23:54

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-election-result/mexico-leftist-vows-no-tolerance-on-corruption-after-historic-win-idUSKBN1JS0R3

I'm from Mexico so let me explain the new president, AMLO (Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador) to everyone.


AMLO is a long time politician of this country, He has been in 3 parties, PRI, PRD and now MORENA, the later which he created. He is a well known leftist, and populist, with socialistic tendencies. He won the Mexico city 2000 election and ruled over it relatively well, created a lot of good social programs etc. His closest allies however got caught in corruption deals and got sent to jail, though nothing was proven about him.


He ran for president in 2006, which he lost by a .5% margin. He called fraud and famously said "to hell with the institutions" and declared himself president and blocked one of the main avenues in Mexico, called Reforma, for six months causing economic damage to thousand of small buisness. Eventually he accepted defeat. EDIT:A lot of people believe it was fraud, honestly, who knows.


He ran again for president in 2012, which he lost again but didn't do anything too crazy. He then left the party he was in the PRD, and formed his own, MORENA.


In 2018, he finally won (today) and there is a lot of uncertanty. For one part a lot of people think of him as the saviour of mexico, because he talks a lot about destroying corruption, investing in the country, making it self sustaning, etc. This sentiment is fueled by former goverments doing a shitty job and him opposing them. If he is as good as he says he is, then he should be great..

However a lot of his views concern a lot of people, particularly buisness man. Some of his closest allies have said that if he wins "the buisnessmen should accept everything he says or he Will expropiate them". ~~He has stated support for people like Maduro, Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.~~ Edit: correction, he didn't show support for Maduro, in general he avoided the topic until finally stating "he didn't agree with him not respecting human rights". He stated support for Fidel Castro, and sympathy for people like "Che Guevara". He was accoused by journalist based on WikiLeaks documents to have ties with Hugo Chavez. This election he stated that he didn't have ties with him.

Sources (in spanish):http://www.jornada.com.mx/2010/12/03/index.php?section=politica&article=004n1pol
https://aristeguinoticias.com/0603/mundo/la-relacion-de-chavez-con-mexico-entre-los-pleitos-y-la-cancion-ranchera/
http://www.nacion321.com/partidos/que-opina-amlo-de-lideres-de-izquierda-como-maduro-o-fidel
http://notinucleo.com/nacional/hugo-chavez-financio-la-campana-lopez-obrador-ex-miss-venezuela/
http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/nacional/senado-pide-a-lopez-obrador-pronunciarse-sobre-regimen-de-maduro

Finally, people have concerns over how he will achieve his goal. He talks about ending corruption, but he hasn't said how. He talks about investing, but he hasn't said where the money to do all the things he says he'll do will come from. He wants to cancel the new inernational airport and use two smaller ones to "save costs" instead, when every expert believes this to be a bad idea.

All in all the country is divided. Some think he will be the saviour of mexico, some worry he will turn mexico into Venezuela (which yes, is in a way worse state).


The real concern however is not him winning the precidency, but his party, apparently won the congress and senate too. This means he has almost absolute power. He wants to do something amazing for the country? he can with the flick of a finger. He wants to change the constitution to become lifetime president? He can, There are mechanism in place so this wouldn't be "with the flick of a finger", though the point still applies: He will have the congress and senate in his favor, so he will have a lot of power to pass all the laws he wants, which could go great or terribly wrong.


I pray he is a good as he says he is.
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Post by Guest 3/7/2018, 01:01

kic wrote:AMLO (Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador)
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on se uspeo na vrh hierarhije svojom sposobnošću


ljudi koji glasaju prepoznaju sposobnost, pa najsposobnijeg okrune za svog kralja, kao u disneyevom crtiću "kralj lavova" i brojnim drugim filmovima

svijet funkcionira kao crtić, kao film, i ako analiziraš dovoljno animiranih crtića dobiješ uvid u mehanizam stvarnosti
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Post by Hektorović 3/7/2018, 01:24

Meksikanci su prvo 2006 tijesno izabrali desničara Calderona dok je Obrador bio jako blizak drugi... nije upalilo, onda centristu Pena Nieta, isto je Obrador bio drugi i isto nije upalilo...

Ovaj puta je dobio večinu, jer što bi se reklo, puno gori od te dvojice ne mre biti.

Upornost se isplati u politici.
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Post by Hektorović 3/7/2018, 01:28

Meksikanci su su ovim i okončali PRI/PAN duopol nad politikom. Koji je u biti bio čisti uhljebski klijentelizam.
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Post by kic 3/7/2018, 08:42


raspala država..
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selektor wrote:Meksiko ima apsolutista 15305610





ode Meksiko ulijevo  Meksiko ima apsolutista 1f61f
Kako su zaboravili još njeka znamenja?
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Post by Kermit 3/7/2018, 10:28

kic wrote:
raspala država..
meksički HADEZE je učinio svoje
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Post by kic 4/7/2018, 11:59


lik odbio imati tjelohranitelje, narod će ga zaštititi

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Post by Kermit 5/7/2018, 00:01

kic wrote:
lik odbio imati tjelohranitelje, narod će ga zaštititi

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Sere...pa mafija je ubila na ovim izborima oko 120 kandidata...tamo 40% države je kukaraća...u biti to je naša budućnost sa HDZom i majkom Crkvom
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