Re: Zapaljena đamija u Berlinu

by Regoč 11/3/2018, 21:10

neve wrote:
slidingdoorsoperator wrote:I meni moja glava odvojena od ostatka tijela i eventualno nabijena na neki kolac.
to bi def. bilo puno gore od burke, priznajem
ovakva razina totalne indolencije, inercije i neshvatljive gluposti zapadnih država jednostavno mi je nevjerojatna
jer što se takvim načinom uopće može postići, osim brutalnog vjersko-civilizacijskog sukoba na europskom tlu u doglednoj budućnosti
no istina, ima ih koji u takvim vremenima najbolje plivaju...

Zato davno napisah: žicu na granicu, iza žice šarac pa šaraj. Na brodove šarce pa šaraj i po moru.

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 21:14

Gnječ wrote:da vidimo timeline kako je nastao i tko je stvorio radikalni islam

America’s Devil’s Game

Robert Dreyfuss’ new book, Devil’s Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam, is an attempt at a comprehensive overview of this story, recounting how the CIA, guided by the belief that radical Islamist forces could act as a bulwark against communism, helped fuel the rise of political Islam and militant fundamentalism in the Middle East and Central Asia. Below is a timeline of major events in the U.S. government’s 70-year flirtation with and support for the militant forces that would, in the late 1990s and on September 11, 2001, come back to haunt the United States.

1933 – Saudi Arabia grants oil exploration rights to the United States, and the two countries enter into a profit-sharing ownership of the Arabian-American Oil Company, which discovers the first commercial oil well in Saudi Arabia in 1938.

Feb. 18, 1943 – President Franklin D. Roosevelt declares the defense of Saudi Arabia of vital interest to the United States and makes the country eligible for Lend-Lease assistance.

1945 – The United States and Saudi Arabia sign an agreement that establishes an American military base in Dhahran, which houses American troops until April of 2003. The Saudis also give the United States permission to conduct a thorough survey of the Arabian Peninsula—which recommended establishing an air base.

Feb. 14, 1945 – Roosevelt meets with King Abdel Aziz ibn Saud, the first meeting of an American President with a Saudi monarch.

1951 – An accord between the two countries allows the United States to establish a permanent military training mission in Saudi Arabia.

1951 – The CIA sets up Radio Liberty to broadcast anti-communist programs around the world. In Central Asia, the station is used to incite local groups, many of them Islamic, against the Soviet Union.

1952 – The Saudi-American oil company, Aramco, pays for the printing of religious propaganda in Riyadh.

1952 – In Iran, the CIA offers money to Ayatollah Abol-Ghassem Kashani, who had formerly opposed foreign influences in Iran, to encourage Kashani to split from Mohammed Mossadeq’s National Front. Kashani was the mentor of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the future leader of the Islamic Revolution, who in the meantime would become a leader of the Devotees of Islam, an Iranian terrorist group.

Aug. 19, 1953 – The CIA and the British intelligence agency MI6 direct a coup against Iran’s democratically-elected prime minister, Mohammed Mossadeq and restore the pro-Western Shah to power. Mossadeq’s nationalization of Anglo-Persian Oil, along with his alliance with the Soviets, had threatened Western interests in Iran.

Sept. 1953 – President Dwight D. Eisenhower dines at the White House with Said Ramadan, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, the popular Islamist group which since the late 1940s has been notorious for its extensive ties to fanatics, assassins, and terrorists in the Middle East.

Oct. 26, 1954– A member of a secret wing of the Muslim Brotherhood attempts to assassinate Gamal Abdel Nasser, the leader of a 1952 military coup against King Farouk. The group is officially banned in Egypt, forcing it underground.

June 23, 1956 – Nasser officially becomes President of Egypt. Nasser’s left-leaning ideology alarmed U.S. officials who worried that Egypt would be lost to Soviet control.

Jan. 1957 – The “Eisenhower Doctrine” is laid out in a speech to Congress. President Eisenhower declared that the United States would provide military and financial assistance in the Middle East to protect against Communist aggression in the region. Under the doctrine, Saudi Arabia became the primary beneficiary of American aid.

June, 1967 – The Six-Day War is fought between Israel and its Arab neighbors Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. Israel’s victory leads most Arab nations to close their American embassies, leaving Saudi Arabia as the Arab world’s primary liaison with the United States.

1970s – Alongside the traditional Islamic fundamentalist movement, a more radical strain of Islam begins to develop in the Middle East, including: the Islamic Community in Egypt, and later the Egyptian Islamic Jihad led by Ayman al-Zawahiri; militant Shiite fundamentalism in Iran; and Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia.

Oct. 1970 – In Egypt, Nasser dies and is succeeded by Anwar Sadat, who promises that sharia will be implemented as the law of the land. Political Islam begins to emerge in Egypt, and an Islamic banking system is created, both of which would become essential in assisting militant, radical Islamic movements.

May 1971 – Sadat consolidates his power, purging government of Nasserites and freeing Muslim Brotherhood prisoners.

1972 – The CIA founds the Asia Foundation to fund leaders of the Afghan Islamist movement at Kabul University. Beneficiaries include Rabbani Sayyaf and Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, two Afghans who would cultivate ties with Osama bin Laden. The two run a secret group that infiltrates the Afghan armed forces and will later lead jihad forces against the Soviet Union in the 1980s.

1972 – A secret military cell is created within the Organization of Muslim Youth, a student group in Afghanistan. The organization requests covert aid from the CIA for its anti-communist activities, including the killing of four “leftists.” Although the entreaty is denied, the CIA offers its sympathy to the OMY.

Jul. 17, 1973 – Afghanistan’s Soviet-friendly prime minister, Sardar Daoud, overthrows the Afghan royalty, establishes a democratic republic, and becomes President. The United States quickly begins funding Afghan dissidents and supporting the radical Islamic Party against Daoud.

Oct. 1973 – Israel fights and eventually wins the Yom Kippur War against Egypt, Syria after a surprise attack by the latter two nations. In response to U.S. support for Israel, OPEC reduces oil production. Oil prices will eventually quadruple, enriching the Saudi Arabian government, which uses the profits to foster Wahhabism in the 1970s and 1980s.

Sept. 1973 – The CIA partners with Iranian and Pakistani intelligence—the latter of which is loosely associated with fundamentalist Islamic Afghan groups—to run raids in Afghanistan and stage a failed coup against President Sardar Daoud. The effort is repeated in December of 1973 and June 1974.

1974 – In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood issues an official statement ordering members to support the economic reforms carried out by Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, in partnership with the International Monetary Fund. Throughout the 1970s, at the behest of the United States, the IMF will require countries in the region to adopt a variety of pro-market reforms as a condition of receiving loans—reforms which will often help destabilize Middle Eastern politics and society.

1975 – A State Department analysis identifies members of the Muslim Brotherhood as leaders of an insurgency against Afghan President Sardar Daoud. After the rebellion failed, Brotherhood leaders, including Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and Sayyaf, flee to Pakistan and find support from ISI, the Pakistani Intelligence Service.

1975-76 – Under pressure from the United States, Pakistan, and Iran, Daoud begins purging and assassinating leftists and communists from the Afghan government.

1976 – The Faisal Islamic Bank of Egypt (FIBE) is established to fund activities of the Muslim Brotherhood. In the 1970s, the Islamic banking system, funded by Saudi Arabia and often aided by western banks and governments, will spread throughout Egypt, becoming the financial backbone for militant Islamist groups. In 2001, US Department of Treasury will designate several of these Muslim banks “terrorist financiers.”

Nov. 19, 1977 – Egyptian President Anwar Sadat visits Jerusalem and begins negotiations with Israel that lead to the Camp David agreement between the two countries. Egypt also breaks its ties with the USSR, quickly becoming one of the United States’ foremost allies by 1980.

1978 – Israel backs the Islamic Association, a militant group led by Ahmed Yassin—later the spiritual leader of Hamas—as a bulwark against the Palestinian Liberation Organization. The United States turns a blind eye as Israel provides military training to terrorist groups.

1978-79 – The United States becomes fully aware that it was backing the Muslim Brotherhood by supporting various anti-communist organizations in Afghanistan. This knowledge was recorded by many State Department and embassy memos, including one from CENTO that directly warned that the Muslim Brotherhood was a rebellious threat to new regimes.

Late-1978 – Secretary of State Zbigniew Brzezinski presses his “arc of crisis” thesis, which argues that the United States can reassert its power in the Middle East by encouraging political Islam as a counter to Soviet and Arab nationalist movements.

Jan.-Feb. 1979 – Islamists, led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, overthrow the Shah and install a theocratic dictatorship in Iran. The Iranian Revolution is seen as a threat to American interests, not least by depriving the United States of one of its staunchest allies in the Middle East, but also threatened the Soviet Union by disrupting the economic alliance between the two countries and provoking irredentist forces near the Soviet border.

Jul. 3, 1979 – President Carter issues the first secret directive that formally authorizes the CIA give direct aid to the Afghan muhjadeen, opponents of the pro-Soviet Afghan regime. The Soviet invasion invades Afghanistan in December.

Nov. 1979 – Ayatollah Khomeini coordinates the forced seizure of the American Embassy in Tehran, precipitating the Iranian hostage crisis.

Jan. 23, 1980 – The Carter Doctrine states that the United States will use military force in the Persian Gulf to protect its interests if necessary, although at this time it is mostly an empty threat, since the US lacks sufficient forces in the region.

Jan. 1980 – Secretary of State Zbigniew Brzezinski visits Egypt to gather Arab support for the Afghan war. Within weeks Egyptian President Anwar Sadat mobilizes arms and recruits fighters from the Muslim Brotherhood, and allows the US to station its air force base in Egypt. U.S. Special Forces train Islamist militants in bomb making, sabotage, arson and guerilla warfare. Many of the Islamist Arab recruits, including Osama bin Laden, who were trained as fighters by Green Berets and Navy Seals for the Afghan War, would go on to form the backbone of Al-Qaeda.

Mar. 1980 – As a deterrent to the Soviet threat, Carter establishes RDF, a military force for rapid deployment into the Persian Gulf in a crisis. Regan later expands RDF into Centcom, the first peacetime joint headquarters for military combat operations, which later serves as the American base of operations in the 1990 Persian Gulf War, the 2001 war in Afghanistan, and the 2003 Iraq war.

Oct. 6, 1981 – Egyptian President Sadat is assassinated by radical Muslim fundamentalists who view the Camp David peace accord with Israel as a betrayal of Islam.

1984 – Osama bin Laden and Abdullah Assam—who was central to US recruit efforts for the Afghan War—together establish the Services Bureau (MAK), a nascent incarnation of Al-Qaeda in Pakistan that coordinated Islamist jihad-fighters to foreign wars. As American goals evolve from draining Soviet resources to winning the Afghan war, CIA funding to Afghan militants increases rapidly, which is matched, dollar for dollar, by funds from Saudi Arabia.

Tupko muslimansko bratstvo je nastalo 1928 godine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 21:21

Eto ti si sad postao jednu plahtu i uletio sa izjavom kako je Amerika stvorila radikalni islam a prva godina je 1933 a ja ti pokazao godinu stvaranja muslimanskog bratstva koja je 1928

Šta ćemo sad?

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 21:26

Ti nećeš ništa zato šta netko tko upadne sa izjavom da je Amerika stvorila radikalni islam očito nema blage veze

Ja sam te samo poklopio da ne pričaš gluposti

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 21:36

Wehabizam koji je danas državna religija u Saudijskoj Arabiji i Ujedinjenim arapskim emigrantima postoji ima već nekih tri stoljeća

Amerika ga nije stvorila

Đihad ili sveti rat i ujedinjenje svih muslimana u Đihad postoji tamo od početka islama dakle ono šesto il sedmo stoljeće il koje je već

Amerika ga nije stvorila

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 21:38

E sad kad Amerika nije stvorila radikalni islam onda možemo samo pričati čiju vojnu ideju su oni prekopirali

A njemačku vojnu ideju

NIJEMCI

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 21:40

I sad ćeš dobit odgovor kako je nastalo muslimansko bratstvo 1928 godine u Egiptu.

Obrazuj se

ZNANJE JE MOĆ

by Guest 11/3/2018, 21:49

RayMabus wrote:Eto ti si sad postao jednu plahtu i uletio sa izjavom kako je Amerika stvorila radikalni islam a prva godina je 1933 a ja ti pokazao godinu stvaranja muslimanskog bratstva koja je 1928

Šta ćemo sad?

ti ćeš se malo bolje informirati i pročitati tekst na linku pa onda komentiraj

History of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (1928–38)

In 1928, six Egyptian workers employed by British military camps in Isma'iliyya, in the Suez Canal Zone in Egypt, visited Hassan al-Banna, a young schoolteacher whom they had heard preach in mosques and coffee-houses on the need for an Islamic renewal. "Arabs and Muslims have no status and no dignity," they said. "They are no more than mere hirelings belonging to the foreigners.... We are unable to perceive the road to action as you perceive it...." They therefore asked him to become their leader; he accepted, founding the Society of the Muslim Brothers.

Banna and his followers began by starting an evening school. In its first few years, the Society was focused on Islamic education, with an emphasis on teaching students how to implement an ethos of solidarity and altruism in their daily lives, rather than on theoretical issues. The General Inspector of Education was greatly impressed, particularly by the eloquent speeches of the working-class members of the Brotherhood. Banna's deputy was a carpenter, and the appointment of people from the lower classes to leading positions became a hallmark of the Brotherhood.[5]

The Society's first major project was the construction of a mosque, completed in 1931, for which it managed to raise a large amount of money while carefully maintaining its independence from potentially self-interested donors. In the same year, the Society began to receive favourable attention in the press, and a Cairo branch was founded.[6]

In 1932, Banna was transferred to Cairo at his request, and the organisation's headquarters were moved there. In addition to handling the administration of the Society, Banna gave evening lectures on the Qur'an for "the poor of the district around the headquarters who were 'without learning and without the will for it'".[7]

Over the next decade, the Society grew very rapidly. From three branches in 1931, it grew to have 300 across Egypt in 1938; thanks to an unorthodox ideology with mass appeal, and to effective strategies for attracting new members, it had become a major political opposition group with a highly diverse membership.

The Brotherhood initially resembled an ordinary Islamic welfare society. In the early 1930s, its welfare activities included small-scale social work among the poor, building and repairing mosques and establishing a number of Qur'an schools (whose role in teaching children to read and write was important in a country where 80% of the population was illiterate), setting up small workshops and factories, and organising the collection and distribution of zakat (the Islamic alms tax). As the Society grew, it increasingly founded benevolent institutions such as pharmacies, hospitals and clinics for the general public, and launched a program to teach adults to read and write by offering courses in coffee-shops and clubs.[11]

However, Banna's vision of a new sort of organisation, capable of renewing broken links between tradition and modernity, enabled the Brotherhood to gain a degree of popularity and influence that no welfare society enjoyed. He observed that, in the midst of a flourishing Egyptian civil society and a cultural environment marked by innovations in literature, science and education, religious education had been left behind: the ideas of Islamic religious reformers were not made accessible to the general public, and there was no serious effort to make the history and teachings of Islam comprehensible to the young. He was determined to fill this gap by training a cadre of young, highly motivated preachers equipped with modern teaching methods, independent from the government and the religious establishment, and supported by an effective use of the new mass media.[12]

During the 1930s, Banna formulated, and the Society began to put into practice, an Islamic ideology that was unusual in several respects. It was, first of all, an ideology of disenfranchised classes. In a country where most political movements, including liberal and modernist ones, were products of the landed aristocracy and the urban elite, the Brotherhood became the voice of the educated middle and lower middle classes (and to a lesser extent of workers and peasants) and the means by which they demanded political participation. Throughout the decade, the Society placed increasing emphasis on social justice; closing the gap between the classes (and thus restoring the egalitarianism of the early Muslims) became one of its main objectives, and Banna voiced ever stronger criticisms of the upper class and the class system as a whole:

Islam is equal for all people and prefers nobody to others on the grounds of differences in blood or race, forefathers or descent, poverty or wealth. According to Islam everyone is equal... However, in deeds and natural gifts, then the answer is yes. The learned is above the ignorant... Thus, we see that Islam does not approve of the class system.

As this ideology took shape over the next two decades, in the absence of a strong socialist party, the Brotherhood called for nationalisation of industries, substantial state intervention in the economy, a greatly reduced maximum wage for senior civil servants, laws to protect workers against exploitation, an Islamic banking system to provide interest-free loans, and generous social welfare programmes, including unemployment benefits, public housing and ambitious health and literacy programmes, funded by higher taxes on the wealthy. By 1948 the Brotherhood was advocating land reform to enable small farmers to own land.[14][15]

Secondly, Banna's ideology was an attempt to bringing about social renewal through a modern interpretation of Islam. In his view, Egypt was torn between two failed value systems: on the one hand, a doctrinaire religious traditionalism (represented by Al-Azhar University), which Banna saw as anachronistic and irrelevant to the urgent problems faced by ordinary people, and on the other hand, an abandonment of all moral values and an economic free-for-all that impoverished the masses and enabled foreign interests to take control of the economy. He argued that Islam should not be confined to the narrow domain of private life, but should rather be applied to the problems of the modern world, and used as the moral foundation of a national renaissance, a thoroughgoing reform of political, economic and social systems.[16]

The Brotherhood has sometimes been incorrectly described as advocating a blanket rejection of everything Western; in reality, Banna did not hesitate to draw on Western as well as Islamic thought in the pursuit of this modern approach to Islam, using quotations from authors such as René Descartes, Isaac Newton and Herbert Spencer to support his own arguments. He proposed to send Brotherhood journalists to study journalism at the American University in Cairo, and suggested that another group of Brothers attend the School of Social Service, another Western school: "its scientific and practical programme will greatly facilitate the training [of the Brothers] in social welfare works". He was in favour of the teaching of foreign languages in schools: "We need to drink from the springs of foreign culture to extract what is indispensable for our renaissance." His formulation of the concept of nationalism, which was fundamental to the Brotherhood's appeal to young people, combined modern European political concepts with Islamic ones. At the same time, Banna and the Brotherhood decried what they saw as their compatriots' slavish adoration of everything Western and their loss of respect for their own culture and history.[17]

Banna's concept of nationalism was emphatically Islamic, and its long-term goal was to see all humanity united by the Muslim faith. However, the Society had no clear definition of the sort of political system it wished for. The idea of reviving the Islamic caliphate (which had been abolished by Kemal Atatürk in 1924) was sometimes mentioned in the Brotherhood's publications, but Banna was not in favour of it. Some critics[who?] have argued that the Society's ambitions amounted to a kind of fascism. The chief practical consequence of the Brotherhood's Islamic nationalism was an energetic campaign against colonialism in Egypt and other Islamic countries; this was one of the main reasons for the Society's popularity.[18][19][20]

The term jihad was a key concept in the Brotherhood's vocabulary: it referred not only to armed struggle to liberate Muslim lands from colonial occupation, but also to the inner effort that Muslims needed to make in order to free themselves from an ingrained inferiority complex and from fatalism and passivity towards their condition. It encompassed the courage to dissent expressed in the maxim "The greatest jihad is to utter a word of truth in the presence of a tyrannical ruler" (a hadith reported by Abu Sa'id al-Khudri) as well as any productive activity that Muslims undertook, on their own initiative, to improve the well-being of the Islamic community.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Muslim_Brotherhood_in_Egypt_(1928%E2%80%9338)

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 21:57

Postao sam ti temu imaš tekst pa čitaj

by Serbinho-3 11/3/2018, 21:58

Pale kod sebe dzamije a branili Islam i Muslimane na Balkanu, posle cega je niklo stotine novih dzamija.

Zapadna posla.

by Guest 11/3/2018, 21:58

neve wrote:
slidingdoorsoperator wrote:Upravo je boldano najveći problem.
I nema garancije da sa tim scenarijem neće pokušati čak i tamo gdje su u debeloj manjini i gdje se većini uopće ne sviđa primjenivati takve doprinose njihove kulture u vlastitoj državi.
Dakle, islam i opet na iste grablje u smislu da nikako nije u stanju prihvatiti modela ponašanja koji izlaze izvan okvira šerijatskog prava, koje se inače samo sa puno benevolencije uopće može nazvati pravom što ga je i dovelo u latentni sukob sa svim susjednim religijama i kulturama.
mislim da će se islam s vremenom nužno morati osuvremeniti, šerijatska pravila možda su svojevremeno čak i funkcionirala, u ratobornim i neciviliziranim vremenima kad je jedini svima razumljivi i funkcionalni 'pedagoški' sistem bio 'batina je iz raja izašla', ali vremena su se ipak promijenila, bar na Zapadu.. a i u njihovim zemljama pomalo, bar neka korist od www i društvenih mreža samo je pitanje koliko će dugo trebati za to i koliko će posijati kaosa i žrtava, prije nego li se dogodi

E, na zapadu.
Ali u islamskim društvima jedva, ako i toliko.
Pa pogledaj samo što se događa sa Turskom i novim sultanom Erdoganom, a to je zapravo jedan benigni primjer. U islamskim društvima se vrijeme vraća unatrag, makar je zapravo jasno da se nikada nije pomaknulo od vremana Muhameda i metoda kojima se on služio u smislu promicanja vjere u Alaha čiji je upravo on prorok.
Boldano je ključno, pogotovo s obzirom da su njegove metode i danas vrlo ne samo inspirativne nego i obvezujuće za nove naraštaje muslimana.
Pa što onda spriječava neke muslimane da se služe tim metodama?
Očito odnos snaga, prije svega, odnosno nedostatak dovoljne razine moći u određenim okolnostima. Međutim, u islamu postoji dopuštena praksa laganja (takija) u ratnim okolnostima pa je jasno da se svako mirnodopsko razdoblje smatra prijelaznim dok muslimani ne smognu dovoljno snage da bi porazili svoje neprijatelje, osvojili te sialmizirali njihova društva i njihova bogatstva potčinili sebi.
Dobro, u konačnici će do nekakve reforme unutar islama morati doći, jer je ta politika zagovaranja kontinuiranog ratovanja ne samo zločinačka nego i osuđena na neuspjeh jer islam niti ima privlačnu moć niti dovoljno snage da bi postigao svoje temeljne ciljeve, a pogotovo ih neće imati kada nafta postane drugorazrednom vrstom izvora energije u svijetu.
Međutim, dok se to ne dogodi, najbolji lijek za obuzdavanje takvim ambicija radikalnih islamista ostaje upotreba sile i to na način da radikalima uporno nanosi stalne vojne poraze i na taj način ih privede kakvom takvom razumu, a da oni razumiju jedino taj jezik sile, pokazuje i aktualni pad ISIL-a i način na koji se to dogodilo.

by Guest 11/3/2018, 22:05

Zabrinut cu te malo Slayding...

Islamski vodje i motjnici su evoluirali i sad investiraju puste milijarde u zapadne ekonomske faktore i tijekove..
nemalo sam se iznenadio kad sam doznao da je hipermoderna Klinika SLK kod mene,u zadnjoj fazi izgradjena sa sudjelovanjem arabijskog investiranja..
imaju brutalne investicije u VW-u,Mercedesu,farmaceutskim industrijama,istrazivackim institutima...

by Guest 11/3/2018, 22:06

Da dodam,potezi europskih glavesina su tako u suprotnosti sa zdravim razumom,a u skladu sa islamskim htijenjima,da je ocito da je sve vise europski politicara na islamskoj platnoj listi..

by Guest 11/3/2018, 22:10

pismejker wrote:Zabrinut cu te malo Slayding...

Islamski vodje i motjnici su evoluirali i sad investiraju puste milijarde u zapadne ekonomske faktore i tijekove..
nemalo sam se iznenadio kad sam doznao da je hipermoderna Klinika SLK kod mene,u zadnjoj fazi izgradjena sa sudjelovanjem arabijskog investiranja..
imaju brutalne investicije u VW-u,Mercedesu,farmaceutskim industrijama,istrazivackim institutima...

To je prilično dobro poznato. Ali rekao sam već kada će doći kraj, kada nafta postane drugorazredni energent u svijetu i kada presuše izvori financija iz naftnih izvora, a oni druge iole ozbiljnije izvore zapravo i nemaju.
Dakle, komercijalna primjena vruće nuklearne fuzije je od nasušne važnosti ne samo u ekonomskom smislu, radi novog energetskog, tehnološkog i gospodarskog skoka u svijetu, nego i zbog sigurnosnih razloga u smislu konačnog uništavanja ambicija radikalnih islamista da pokore zapadna društva pri čemu su glavni izvori financiranja sredstva dobivena od prodaje nafte.

by Guest 11/3/2018, 22:16

slidingdoorsoperator wrote:
pismejker wrote:Zabrinut cu te malo Slayding...

Islamski vodje i motjnici su evoluirali i sad investiraju puste milijarde u zapadne ekonomske faktore i tijekove..
nemalo sam se iznenadio kad sam doznao da je hipermoderna Klinika SLK kod mene,u zadnjoj fazi izgradjena sa sudjelovanjem arabijskog investiranja..
imaju brutalne investicije u VW-u,Mercedesu,farmaceutskim industrijama,istrazivackim institutima...

To je prilično dobro poznato. Ali rekao sam već kada će doći kraj, kada nafta postane drugorazredni energent u svijetu i kada presuše izvori financija iz naftnih izvora, a oni druge iole ozbiljnije izvore zapravo i nemaju.
Dakle, komercijalna primjena vruće nuklearne fuzije je od nasušne važnosti ne samo u ekonomskom smislu, radi novog energetskog, tehnološkog i gospodarskog skoka u svijetu, nego i zbog sigurnosnih razloga u smislu konačnog uništavanja ambicija radikalnih islamista da pokore zapadna društva pri čemu su glavni izvori financiranja sredstva dobivena od prodaje nafte.

..Dok taj period dojde,Arapi ce imati oko 80% kapitla injektirana u "zapadne" sustave..,trenutno imaj u30% samo u americkim bankama,ne racunajuci ekonomske faktore u industriji iostalom..

Samo obrati paznju na cinjenicu,da Amerika brani da se SA tuzi na americkim sudovima...

by Guest 11/3/2018, 22:19

pismejker wrote:Da dodam,potezi europskih glavesina su tako u suprotnosti sa zdravim razumom,a u skladu sa islamskim htijenjima,da je ocito da je sve vise europski politicara na islamskoj platnoj listi..

Što čak nije niti blizu toliki problem kao što je ponašanje političkih elita na zapadu koji nisu prikopčani na te izvore, ali zato zagovaraju masovnu pa čak i nekontroliranu imigraciju radi nekih drugih interesa kao što je smanjenje cijene radne snage u zapadnim državama. Bernie Sanders je na pitanje zašto zagovara takvu imigraciju rekao da to zapravo nije njegova agenda nego braće Koch, u biti američke desnice slizane sa krupnim kapitalom.
Ironija je u tome da je to postao program tzv. moderne ljevice koja sa tradicionalnom socijaldemokracijom više nema nikakve veze i koja nove birače nastoji pronaći upravo u tim imigrantima preko kojih nastoji razoriti tradicionalne vrijednosti i posebno nacionalni osjećaj na zapadu. Pri tome vrlo lukavo koristi medije koji su u vlasništvu upravo najkrupnijeg kapitala kako bi takvu opciju prikazali vrlo privlačnom i u tome nažalost, imaju i dosta uspjeha. Za sad. Ali vrč ide na vodu dok se ne razbije i u Americi im je Trump već pomrsio dosta računa, a u Evropi jačaju snage koji se protive toj sprezi imigranata, njihovih islamističkih financijera, krupnog kapitala na zapadu, njihovih masovnih medija i tzv. moderne ljevice.

by Guest 11/3/2018, 22:25

pismejker wrote:
..Dok taj period dojde,Arapi ce imati oko 80% kapitla injektirana u "zapadne" sustave..,trenutno imaj u30% samo u americkim bankama,ne racunajuci ekonomske faktore u industriji iostalom..

Samo obrati paznju na cinjenicu,da Amerika brani da se SA tuzi na americkim sudovima...

Mislim da je to debelo pretjerano, a i kapital je vrlo dinamična kategorija i na taj način će se moći samo održati, ali ne i dalje oploditi.
SA naravno ima svoje saveznike u političkim elitama, ali njihova snaga ipak nije ni blizu tolika da bi ta opstrukcija mogla trajati neko dulje vrijeme.

by Guest 11/3/2018, 22:33

RayMabus wrote:Postao sam ti temu imaš tekst pa čitaj

pročitao sam njemačka nazi imala je tu umješane prste...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 22:35

Meni je dovoljno da ih Nijemci i Austrijanci izbace a ostali u EU mogu se slobodno nastavit jebat sa tim muslimančinama

by RayMabus 11/3/2018, 22:37

Gnječ wrote:
RayMabus wrote:Postao sam ti temu imaš tekst pa čitaj

pročitao sam njemačka nazi imala je tu umješane prste...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world

Da to je poslije, početak ti je u onoj temi koju sam stavio na forum, prvi svjetski rat i plan globalnoga đihada u kolonijama Atante

by prckov 11/3/2018, 23:00

islam se of samog pocetka pa sve do danas sirio humanitarnim koncertima I vecerima poezije

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