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Post by Leviathan2 Wed 21 Dec - 20:33

The EU commission today came to a compromise agreement that will severely hamper legal gun ownership among its member states.
This scramble to "protect" its citizens from terror and crime came about after the Paris attacks and politicians clamored to any straw to make themselves relevant and to be seen "doing something". The solution; to strengthen gun laws. You know the laws that criminals and terrorist globally already ignore.
This despite that legal gun owners are grossly under-represented in all crime statistics across the entire union. This is a fact that not even the EU commission disputes, but rather than amend its proposal taking this into consideration, they tried to artificially inflate the crime stats of legal gun owners by including statistics from countries outside of the union to defend their position.

This is all akin to trying to prevent terror by banning blue cars, and makes just as much sense.
The most important elements of the proposal on which agreement has been reached are:

  • A ban of dangerous semi-automatic firearms. These include automatic firearms transformed into semi-automatic firearms, long semi-automatic firearms of length less than 60cm, long semi-automatic firearms with loading devices of more than 10 rounds, and short semi-automatic firearms with a loading device of more than 20 rounds.
  • Regulation of alarm and acoustic weapons: An acoustic or salute weapon is an active weapon transformed to only shoot blank, for example for use in theatre or cinema. Such weapons can be easily re-transformed into fully active firearms. In the future, acoustic and salute weapon can still be used in a theatre or in movies, subject to declaration, authorisation or licence depending on the category they belonged to before transformation.
  • Regulation of deactivated weapons, which for the first time are considered firearms despite having been deactivated, and are now subject to declaration to national authorities.
  • Inclusion of museums and collectors in the scope of the Directive: The existing Directive does not cover collectors. In the future, collectors and museums will be treated like any civilian firearms owner. They will have the possibility to acquire category A firearms but only under strict conditions.
  • Stricter conditions for the online acquisition of firearms, to better control the acquisition of firearms, pieces thereof or ammunition through the Internet.
  • Clearer rules on marking of firearms to improve traceability: Member States need to ensure that any firearm or part placed on the market has been marked and registered, and they need to have national computerised data-filing systems in place to strengthen the traceability of firearms.
  • Establishing a system of exchange of information between Member States. In particular, it is extremely important that a person not authorised to buy firearms in a Member States cannot get authorised to do so by another Member State.
  • Conditions for medical tests: In the future, all Member States will have to put in place a system of medical check for the authorisation to acquire firearms. The details regarding medical checks are to be defined by the Member States.
  • Framed derogations for sport shooters which will have the possibility to acquire category A firearms.

They also wanted to impose a complete ban on AR15 & AK47's regardless of status.

"The Commission regrets that some parts of the original proposal were not supported by the European Parliament and the Council, in particular concerning semi-automatic firearms where the Commission had proposed a greater level of ambition with a complete ban of the most dangerous semi-automatic firearms, including all semi-automatic firearms of the AK47 or AR15 families. The Commission also favoured an approach whereby the magazine size would have been limited to 10 rounds for all semi-automatic firearms, be they long or short. The Commission further regrets that private collectors will be authorised, under certain conditions, to acquire fully active assault weapons."
Don't you feel safer already? *sigh*


isilovci ce  morat da se debelo zamisle, eo sad su postrozili zakone o posjedovanju oruzja u ojropi lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
ahahah jebote koja debilana, sad da imas gan i vidis isilovca kako na nesti nekog kolje ili napadne tebe ne smijes ga isukat jer si najebo od kazni i zatvora, 
sad isilovci imaju jebeno free loviste, u stvari uzgajaliste ovaca

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Post by marcellus Wed 21 Dec - 20:40

iduće je zabrana kamiona i šlepera

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Post by omni Wed 21 Dec - 20:46

Uvijek ce bit oruzja na crno, mogu ga pusit. Koji jos to kriminalac ide u akciju s licenciranim oruzjem. Vidi se da je neukost i glupost politicara otisla daleko ispred svih normi. U nemoci da ucine nesto suvislo obrusavaju se na gradjane koji slijede zakone. Ovo je samo sitnica kakve ideje te spodobe  mogu da izrigaju iz sebe.
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Post by abraham Wed 21 Dec - 20:53

U Svedskoj ce izaci narukvice sa natpisom, " Na gas ti pazi i prolazanike ne gazi".

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Post by marcellus Wed 21 Dec - 20:54

omni wrote:Uvijek ce bit oruzja na crno, mogu ga pusit. Koji jos to kriminalac ide u akciju s licenciranim oruzjem. Vidi se da je neukost i glupost politicara otisla daleko ispred svih normi. U nemoci da ucine nesto suvislo obrusavaju se na gradjane koji slijede zakone. Ovo je samo sitnica kakve ideje te spodobe  mogu da izrigaju iz sebe.

nije to glupost ni neukost, bojim se da je nešto gore iza toga... fašizam čisti pod izlikom "zaštite građana"

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Post by omni Wed 21 Dec - 21:20

marcellus wrote:
omni wrote:Uvijek ce bit oruzja na crno, mogu ga pusit. Koji jos to kriminalac ide u akciju s licenciranim oruzjem. Vidi se da je neukost i glupost politicara otisla daleko ispred svih normi. U nemoci da ucine nesto suvislo obrusavaju se na gradjane koji slijede zakone. Ovo je samo sitnica kakve ideje te spodobe  mogu da izrigaju iz sebe.

nije to glupost ni neukost, bojim se da je nešto gore iza toga... fašizam čisti pod izlikom "zaštite građana"
Ma jasno, bandi ne odgovaraju naoruzani gradjani, vec vidjeno u USA.
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Post by Leviathan2 Wed 21 Dec - 21:23

monopol na silu, to ih jebe, kako je krenulo mogla bi jos koja i oruzana revolucija pocet, aj fala kurcu mene to ne kaci a nit ih imam namjeru rusit,
al ovo je najsigurniji nacin za njih,  ovo nesto terorista ih ne zabrinjava koliko bi ih mogli zabrinuti naoruzani gradjani

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Post by mutava baštarda Wed 21 Dec - 21:24

možda genijalci ukinu za djecu noćne reflektirajuće oznake da budu sigurnija u prometu...

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Post by melkior Wed 21 Dec - 23:08

Leviathan2 wrote:The EU commission today came to a compromise agreement that will severely hamper legal gun ownership among its member states.
This scramble to "protect" its citizens from terror and crime came about after the Paris attacks and politicians clamored to any straw to make themselves relevant and to be seen "doing something". The solution; to strengthen gun laws. You know the laws that criminals and terrorist globally already ignore.
This despite that legal gun owners are grossly under-represented in all crime statistics across the entire union. This is a fact that not even the EU commission disputes, but rather than amend its proposal taking this into consideration, they tried to artificially inflate the crime stats of legal gun owners by including statistics from countries outside of the union to defend their position.

This is all akin to trying to prevent terror by banning blue cars, and makes just as much sense.
The most important elements of the proposal on which agreement has been reached are:

  • A ban of dangerous semi-automatic firearms. These include automatic firearms transformed into semi-automatic firearms, long semi-automatic firearms of length less than 60cm, long semi-automatic firearms with loading devices of more than 10 rounds, and short semi-automatic firearms with a loading device of more than 20 rounds.
  • Regulation of alarm and acoustic weapons: An acoustic or salute weapon is an active weapon transformed to only shoot blank, for example for use in theatre or cinema. Such weapons can be easily re-transformed into fully active firearms. In the future, acoustic and salute weapon can still be used in a theatre or in movies, subject to declaration, authorisation or licence depending on the category they belonged to before transformation.
  • Regulation of deactivated weapons, which for the first time are considered firearms despite having been deactivated, and are now subject to declaration to national authorities.
  • Inclusion of museums and collectors in the scope of the Directive: The existing Directive does not cover collectors. In the future, collectors and museums will be treated like any civilian firearms owner. They will have the possibility to acquire category A firearms but only under strict conditions.
  • Stricter conditions for the online acquisition of firearms, to better control the acquisition of firearms, pieces thereof or ammunition through the Internet.
  • Clearer rules on marking of firearms to improve traceability: Member States need to ensure that any firearm or part placed on the market has been marked and registered, and they need to have national computerised data-filing systems in place to strengthen the traceability of firearms.
  • Establishing a system of exchange of information between Member States. In particular, it is extremely important that a person not authorised to buy firearms in a Member States cannot get authorised to do so by another Member State.
  • Conditions for medical tests: In the future, all Member States will have to put in place a system of medical check for the authorisation to acquire firearms. The details regarding medical checks are to be defined by the Member States.
  • Framed derogations for sport shooters which will have the possibility to acquire category A firearms.

They also wanted to impose a complete ban on AR15 & AK47's regardless of status.

"The Commission regrets that some parts of the original proposal were not supported by the European Parliament and the Council, in particular concerning semi-automatic firearms where the Commission had proposed a greater level of ambition with a complete ban of the most dangerous semi-automatic firearms, including all semi-automatic firearms of the AK47 or AR15 families. The Commission also favoured an approach whereby the magazine size would have been limited to 10 rounds for all semi-automatic firearms, be they long or short. The Commission further regrets that private collectors will be authorised, under certain conditions, to acquire fully active assault weapons."
Don't you feel safer already? *sigh*


isilovci ce  morat da se debelo zamisle, eo sad su postrozili zakone o posjedovanju oruzja u ojropi lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
ahahah jebote koja debilana, sad da imas gan i vidis isilovca kako na nesti nekog kolje ili napadne tebe ne smijes ga isukat jer si najebo od kazni i zatvora, 
sad isilovci imaju jebeno free loviste, u stvari uzgajaliste ovaca
Ma jebe se europederima za islamiste, boje se da ih naoružani građani ne pošalju na giljotinu.
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Post by melkior Wed 21 Dec - 23:09

marcellus wrote:
omni wrote:Uvijek ce bit oruzja na crno, mogu ga pusit. Koji jos to kriminalac ide u akciju s licenciranim oruzjem. Vidi se da je neukost i glupost politicara otisla daleko ispred svih normi. U nemoci da ucine nesto suvislo obrusavaju se na gradjane koji slijede zakone. Ovo je samo sitnica kakve ideje te spodobe  mogu da izrigaju iz sebe.

nije to glupost ni neukost, bojim se da je nešto gore iza toga... fašizam čisti pod izlikom "zaštite građana"
Jednostavno, islamisti i eurobirokrati će se, očito, rješavati o istom trošku.
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Post by kic Thu 22 Dec - 0:45


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Lukaz Urban is the hero of the decade!

His truck was highjacked to be used by the terrorist scum driving through the Christmas market in Berlin

But instead of leaving the truck and letting the terrorist plow through the market again and again , he grabbed the wheel , steering the truck away from the most crowded area whilst being stabbed in the back !

His cousin and truck owner says that the police came to verify it was him , he had stab wounds and bullet wounds all over his body , " it looked like a war zone around the drivers seat !

The truck came at over 75 Kmh and would have been a total massacre if it weren't for this brave man !

He managed to keep the death toll to around 11 people !
His bravery saving many more lives!

For hero Polish truck drivers family :
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