Teorija urote o teorijama urote
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Isti taj marcel je kovao u zvijezde SAD, invazije i sl. sranja do godinu dana od kada je postao glavni teoretičar zavjera Buzina, sorosa. Što se tiče gore navedenog to je glupost jer "teorije zavjera" obuhvaćaju tisuće teorija koje su čak u suprotnosti jedna sa drugom ( a i sa mozgom) tako da opcenito generaliziranje dovoljno govori koja je intencija ovog musavog pakistancadzmrdz wrote:Psihološka analiza profesora Virena Swamija sa Sveučilišta Westminster u Velikoj Britaniji provedena 2010. godine pokazala je da su ljudi koji su skloniji vjerovanju u teorije zavjere obično oni koje inače krasi ciničniji pogled na svijet, posebno na politiku. Jednako tako, u istoj analizi opaženo je da teorije zavjere nailaze na bolje plodno tlo kod onih koji imaju manje samopouzdanja – njegov nedostatak nerijetko kompenziraj stvaranjem osjećanja kontrole koji im daje saznanje da su neku zavjeru razotkrili. Tako se osjećaju moćnijima
http://www.fizzit.net/drustvo/fenomenologija/4976-zasto-ljudi-vjeruju-u-teorije-zavjere
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Kermit- Posts : 26479
2014-04-17
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asilovski wrote:Isti taj marcel je kovao u zvijezde SAD, invazije i sl. sranja do godinu dana od kada je postao glavni teoretičar zavjera Buzina, sorosa. Što se tiče gore navedenog to je glupost jer "teorije zavjera" obuhvaćaju tisuće teorija koje su čak u suprotnosti jedna sa drugom ( a i sa mozgom) tako da opcenito generaliziranje dovoljno govori koja je intencija ovog musavog pakistancadzmrdz wrote:Psihološka analiza profesora Virena Swamija sa Sveučilišta Westminster u Velikoj Britaniji provedena 2010. godine pokazala je da su ljudi koji su skloniji vjerovanju u teorije zavjere obično oni koje inače krasi ciničniji pogled na svijet, posebno na politiku. Jednako tako, u istoj analizi opaženo je da teorije zavjere nailaze na bolje plodno tlo kod onih koji imaju manje samopouzdanja – njegov nedostatak nerijetko kompenziraj stvaranjem osjećanja kontrole koji im daje saznanje da su neku zavjeru razotkrili. Tako se osjećaju moćnijima
http://www.fizzit.net/drustvo/fenomenologija/4976-zasto-ljudi-vjeruju-u-teorije-zavjere
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Bome on je jedan od poznatijih u toj sferi...i nije Pakistanac jebo ga ti haha
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To dovoljno govori o "sferi" ili novo-znanostima, a Paki mi bolje zvuči, pa kako ćeš nešto o Indijicima, iako faktično gledajući i Pakiji su Indijici hehehdzmrdz wrote:asilovski wrote:Isti taj marcel je kovao u zvijezde SAD, invazije i sl. sranja do godinu dana od kada je postao glavni teoretičar zavjera Buzina, sorosa. Što se tiče gore navedenog to je glupost jer "teorije zavjera" obuhvaćaju tisuće teorija koje su čak u suprotnosti jedna sa drugom ( a i sa mozgom) tako da opcenito generaliziranje dovoljno govori koja je intencija ovog musavog pakistancadzmrdz wrote:Psihološka analiza profesora Virena Swamija sa Sveučilišta Westminster u Velikoj Britaniji provedena 2010. godine pokazala je da su ljudi koji su skloniji vjerovanju u teorije zavjere obično oni koje inače krasi ciničniji pogled na svijet, posebno na politiku. Jednako tako, u istoj analizi opaženo je da teorije zavjere nailaze na bolje plodno tlo kod onih koji imaju manje samopouzdanja – njegov nedostatak nerijetko kompenziraj stvaranjem osjećanja kontrole koji im daje saznanje da su neku zavjeru razotkrili. Tako se osjećaju moćnijima
http://www.fizzit.net/drustvo/fenomenologija/4976-zasto-ljudi-vjeruju-u-teorije-zavjere
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Bome on je jedan od poznatijih u toj sferi...i nije Pakistanac jebo ga ti haha
Kermit-
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2014-04-17
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eo baš na disinfu:
[size=31]Is Everything A Conspiracy?[/size]
[size=31]Is Everything A Conspiracy?[/size]
Kermit-
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2014-04-17
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t’s a question often asked of the conspiratorially minded, born from an irritation with the modern tendency to question every event and its mainstream media account. Of course, it’s really a statement – “Everything isn’t a conspiracy!” – with perhaps the added subtext, “You paranoid, irrational, basement-dwelling loon.”
However, in an attempt to get a rational response to this rhetorical question, The Eternities podcast recently asked it to Roberto Quaglia, a science-fiction author who ventured into conspiracy territory when he published The Myth of September 11: The Satanic Verses of Western Democracy.
In the podcast, Quaglia explained his entry into the arena and his reasons for writing the 600-page tome: “I discovered that the official narrative didn’t make any sense. I needed people to discuss it with but … everyone was stuck in the mainstream narrative. So I started to write down what I understood so that I [could not] forget it. It was not a plan to write a book.
“I noticed in myself … my mind having a bias, because [after three months] I stopped [believing]the things that I understood. This was a frustrating moment … because facing rejection from everybody … I noticed that my mind started to become mainstream again; I started to believe again the official narrative.
“This is a fact that had been written [about] in the famous book by Gustav Le Bon [The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind] about the psychology of the masses, where he stated that if you convince a person on a rational basis, the next day this person will probably be back to his older belief. It doesn’t matter if this is irrational; his older beliefs are something that he feels, and nothing that he understands can change how he feels.
“And, actually, this is what was happening to me. I was feeling safer inside the mainstream narrative … so I went back to my previous feelings. This kind of betrayal of my mind was unacceptable so I went back and studied again the issue. Of course, in the process of writing a book you understand so many things that it makes [a] critical mass and there is no way back at this point. I cannot believe the mainstream any more.”
The 90-minute discussion ranged from the origins of the term “conspiracy theory” (employed to marginalise dissent against the official narrative of the JFK assassination); through media manipulation and disinformation; the psychology of belief, scepticism and obedience; cryptocracy and “deep government”; and the theatrics of the current US presidential campaign.
Listen to The Eternities podcast with Roberto Quaglia.
However, in an attempt to get a rational response to this rhetorical question, The Eternities podcast recently asked it to Roberto Quaglia, a science-fiction author who ventured into conspiracy territory when he published The Myth of September 11: The Satanic Verses of Western Democracy.
In the podcast, Quaglia explained his entry into the arena and his reasons for writing the 600-page tome: “I discovered that the official narrative didn’t make any sense. I needed people to discuss it with but … everyone was stuck in the mainstream narrative. So I started to write down what I understood so that I [could not] forget it. It was not a plan to write a book.
“I noticed in myself … my mind having a bias, because [after three months] I stopped [believing]the things that I understood. This was a frustrating moment … because facing rejection from everybody … I noticed that my mind started to become mainstream again; I started to believe again the official narrative.
“This is a fact that had been written [about] in the famous book by Gustav Le Bon [The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind] about the psychology of the masses, where he stated that if you convince a person on a rational basis, the next day this person will probably be back to his older belief. It doesn’t matter if this is irrational; his older beliefs are something that he feels, and nothing that he understands can change how he feels.
“And, actually, this is what was happening to me. I was feeling safer inside the mainstream narrative … so I went back to my previous feelings. This kind of betrayal of my mind was unacceptable so I went back and studied again the issue. Of course, in the process of writing a book you understand so many things that it makes [a] critical mass and there is no way back at this point. I cannot believe the mainstream any more.”
The 90-minute discussion ranged from the origins of the term “conspiracy theory” (employed to marginalise dissent against the official narrative of the JFK assassination); through media manipulation and disinformation; the psychology of belief, scepticism and obedience; cryptocracy and “deep government”; and the theatrics of the current US presidential campaign.
Listen to The Eternities podcast with Roberto Quaglia.
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Eo autor članka se dotiče 11/9, Marcel je odlično sročio članaka o istome, SAD-a su obajavili 28 stranica u svim tim člancima, dokumnetaima i dr. se jasno vidi da službena verzija nema veze sa kurcem te da je Kuća Saud unajmanje aktivno sudjelovala u logistici, obuci i dr. koji su doveli do rušenje tornjeva, svi to skoro ignoriraju, kao i npr. rat u Jemenu, a šta je stvar najbolja to nisu niakvi teoretičari zavjera već svakome dostupni podaci na internetu i to službeni, ali no ovaj musavi cigo govori da su svi parafilčičari sa nedostatkom samopuzdanju na koje treba upotrebiti narkoleptike i struju
Kermit-
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2014-04-17
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Ovo uopće nije teorija, već jedina istina. Pitaj Evu, sve će ti podrobno pojasniti i dokazati.dzmrdz wrote:teorije da su Zidovi vladari sveta
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CIgo nije rekao ništa o teorijama zawjere jesu li točne ili ne nego samo o profilu ljudi koji nemaju swoj žiwot i žiwotne uspijehe pa se bawe pizdharijama i misle da su popili swu pamet swijeta kad nešto "otrkriju".asilovski wrote:Eo autor članka se dotiče 11/9, Marcel je odlično sročio članaka o istome, SAD-a su obajavili 28 stranica u svim tim člancima, dokumnetaima i dr. se jasno vidi da službena verzija nema veze sa kurcem te da je Kuća Saud unajmanje aktivno sudjelovala u logistici, obuci i dr. koji su doveli do rušenje tornjeva, svi to skoro ignoriraju, kao i npr. rat u Jemenu, a šta je stvar najbolja to nisu niakvi teoretičari zavjera već svakome dostupni podaci na internetu i to službeni, ali no ovaj musavi cigo govori da su svi parafilčičari sa nedostatkom samopuzdanju na koje treba upotrebiti narkoleptike i struju
To je bila cigina ponata.
RayMabus- Posts : 184105
2014-04-11
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Točno.dzmrdz wrote:Psihološka analiza profesora Virena Swamija sa Sveučilišta Westminster u Velikoj Britaniji provedena 2010. godine pokazala je da su ljudi koji su skloniji vjerovanju u teorije zavjere obično oni koje inače krasi ciničniji pogled na svijet, posebno na politiku. Jednako tako, u istoj analizi opaženo je da teorije zavjere nailaze na bolje plodno tlo kod onih koji imaju manje samopouzdanja – njegov nedostatak nerijetko kompenziraj stvaranjem osjećanja kontrole koji im daje saznanje da su neku zavjeru razotkrili. Tako se osjećaju moćnijima
http://www.fizzit.net/drustvo/fenomenologija/4976-zasto-ljudi-vjeruju-u-teorije-zavjere
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Ja sam Bog glavom i bradom , anđeoska hijerarhija , brother of Lucifer , galaktički đeneral s pet đeneralskih zvijezdica ....
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
RayMabus- Posts : 184105
2014-04-11
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RayMabus wrote:Točno.dzmrdz wrote:Psihološka analiza profesora Virena Swamija sa Sveučilišta Westminster u Velikoj Britaniji provedena 2010. godine pokazala je da su ljudi koji su skloniji vjerovanju u teorije zavjere obično oni koje inače krasi ciničniji pogled na svijet, posebno na politiku. Jednako tako, u istoj analizi opaženo je da teorije zavjere nailaze na bolje plodno tlo kod onih koji imaju manje samopouzdanja – njegov nedostatak nerijetko kompenziraj stvaranjem osjećanja kontrole koji im daje saznanje da su neku zavjeru razotkrili. Tako se osjećaju moćnijima
http://www.fizzit.net/drustvo/fenomenologija/4976-zasto-ljudi-vjeruju-u-teorije-zavjere
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Ja sam Bog glavom i bradom , anđeoska hijerarhija , brother of Lucifer , galaktički đeneral s pet đeneralskih zvijezdica ....
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Često se bavi trenutno aktualnim temama i rabi paradoksne likove. Nerijetko je kontroverzan ili polemičan jer uključuje pitanje smije li se ismijavati određenoj stvari i gdje je granica dobrog ukusa.
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RayMabus- Posts : 184105
2014-04-11
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Izvini ali ti jos mi nisi pokazao kako Swami to poziva na lincovanje, elektrosokove i sl onih koji veruju u zavere
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Ma čudimo se o teorijama urote na globalnom nivou,a pogledajmo samo što pišu o događajima kod nas.
Sjetimo se samo ono oko pogibije Dražena Petrovića ili Toše Proeskog.
Kad smo kod Toše,ima teorija da je živ.
Sjetimo se samo ono oko pogibije Dražena Petrovića ili Toše Proeskog.
Kad smo kod Toše,ima teorija da je živ.
jastreb- Posts : 34059
2014-04-22
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marcellus wrote:svojevremeno je zrinkin um zaintrigirao moju ženu pa se dala malo istažit
http://www.fizzit.net/drustvo/fenomenologija/4976-zasto-ljudi-vjeruju-u-teorije-zavjere
Malo mi je bilo cudno ovaj text pa sam proguglao i skuzio da je u stavri plagijat.
pogledaj:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=0
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Samo isključivanje iz diskusije i defamacija je prvi korak, jer u biti diskvalificira i to apriori, drugim riječima radi se o svojevrsnom oduzimanju poslovne spsobnosti barem dijelom, nakon toga je sve mogućno, a to nas povijest učidzmrdz wrote:Izvini ali ti jos mi nisi pokazao kako Swami to poziva na lincovanje, elektrosokove i sl onih koji veruju u zavere
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dakle, tebi su teorije zavjere obicna isprazna laprdanja jel tako, pa uglavnom ce i biti tako dok god ima vas sljedbenika sluzbenih izvjestcadzmrdz wrote:Izvini ali ti jos mi nisi pokazao kako Swami to poziva na lincovanje, elektrosokove i sl onih koji veruju u zavere
hrpa stvari koje su bile teorije zavjere su se obistinile a sama uporaba termina teorija zavjere se moze primjenit na bilo koju tvrdnju koja ne moze biti dokaziva tog momenta jer nema sluzbene potvrde i po toj logici automatski se klasificira kao izmisljotina nadobudnije dokolicara i tlapnja polusvjesnijeh idijota, samo kad se poceo spominjati ttip prije par godina on je bio jos jedna od teorija zavjere al gle cuda postala je cinjenica, ili cjepljenje i cjepiva protiv virusa svinjske gripe ili aviarije, maslo farmaceuta koje je bilo teorija zavjere i na kraju se ispostavilo da je usrani virus svinjske gripe lazi oblik od obicnijeh sezonskih gripa, al bitno je da se dao publicitet i izjave prominentnih strucnjaka iz who koje placaju farmaceuti, hoces da tinastavim nabrajati jos, teorije zavjere o kontroli klime, il teorije zavjere o zasipanju otrovnim aerosolima iz aviona, tkz zaprasivanje, pod izgovorom borbe protiv globalnog zatopljenja, i ti spominjes nekog swamija koji teoreticare zavjere svrstava medju psihicke boleznike jer je on kao neki kurcev autoritet iz psihologije,
coek, de se malo okreni oko sebe i otvori oci, vidjeces svasta, ne hodaj ko guska u magli informacija, prvo obrati paznju na sitne stvari i moj savjet je da se ne povodis za autoritetima bilo koje vrste, donesi zakljucke svojom glavom a i onda ne vjeruj 100% i nikad ali nikad ne uvjeravaj nekog u svoj sud, mozes ponuditi svoje misljenje al nikad ne uvjeravaj nekog da je ispravno
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Leviathan2 wrote:dakle, tebi su teorije zavjere obicna isprazna laprdanja jel tako, pa uglavnom ce i biti tako dok god ima vas sljedbenika sluzbenih izvjestcadzmrdz wrote:Izvini ali ti jos mi nisi pokazao kako Swami to poziva na lincovanje, elektrosokove i sl onih koji veruju u zavere
hrpa stvari koje su bile teorije zavjere su se obistinile a sama uporaba termina teorija zavjere se moze primjenit na bilo koju tvrdnju koja ne moze biti dokaziva tog momenta jer nema sluzbene potvrde i po toj logici automatski se klasificira kao izmisljotina nadobudnije dokolicara i tlapnja polusvjesnijeh idijota, samo kad se poceo spominjati ttip prije par godina on je bio jos jedna od teorija zavjere al gle cuda postala je cinjenica, ili cjepljenje i cjepiva protiv virusa svinjske gripe ili aviarije, maslo farmaceuta koje je bilo teorija zavjere i na kraju se ispostavilo da je usrani virus svinjske gripe lazi oblik od obicnijeh sezonskih gripa, al bitno je da se dao publicitet i izjave prominentnih strucnjaka iz who koje placaju farmaceuti, hoces da tinastavim nabrajati jos, teorije zavjere o kontroli klime, il teorije zavjere o zasipanju otrovnim aerosolima iz aviona, tkz zaprasivanje, pod izgovorom borbe protiv globalnog zatopljenja, i ti spominjes nekog swamija koji teoreticare zavjere svrstava medju psihicke boleznike jer je on kao neki kurcev autoritet iz psihologije,
coek, de se malo okreni oko sebe i otvori oci, vidjeces svasta, ne hodaj ko guska u magli informacija, prvo obrati paznju na sitne stvari i moj savjet je da se ne povodis za autoritetima bilo koje vrste, donesi zakljucke svojom glavom a i onda ne vjeruj 100% i nikad ali nikad ne uvjeravaj nekog u svoj sud, mozes ponuditi svoje misljenje al nikad ne uvjeravaj nekog da je ispravno
Pogledaj na moje pitanje i tvoju izjavu/odgovor. jesi li ti odgovorio ili asila na moje pitanje gde je to Swami pozivao na etiketiranje ljudi kao mentalnih bolesnika pod jedan?
Pod dva, ja se nisam uopste izjasnio explicitno o tome da li verujem ili ne, u neke verujem u neke ne verujem a ovde sam pre svega govorio o stajalistu vodecih psihologa o tome kako dolazi do kreiranja teorije zavere i koji su USTANOVLJENI I NAUCNO DOKAZANI psiholoski i kognitivni procesi (greske takodjer) zasluzni za pojedine elemente istih. On nije neki kurcev autoritet nego jedan od vodecih ljudi bar u UK sto se tice tih stavri i njegovi radovi su peer-reviewed za razliku od tvojih tako da ako cemo gledati realno malo je u prednosti.
Ja sam jako skeptican covek i kada bih poverovao u sve sto pise to bi znacilo da automatski treba da poverujem i tebi bez da ukljucim mozak pre toga i racionalno odvazem za i protiv argumenete ai Swamiju. Svakako nije svaka prica vredna da je studiramo.
Kada bih hteo sada, tj imao vremna mogao bih tvoj text da izanaliziram od tacke do tacke i pokazem da u tvome stavu se prepoznaju mnogi elementi karakteristicni za klasicnog "believera" u sve i svasta.
Kako ja treba da budem na oprezu da ne dozvolim da mi moc rasudjivanja zamagli nekakav plast ofcijelnosti navucen na odredjeni dogadjaj tako i ti treba malo da pristupis analizi nekih elemenata u dogadjajima koji se proglasavaju zaverama.
Najbolje je jedan balansiran i analiticki pristup svakome dogadjaju i onda uzeti u obzir raspolozive podatke. Svaki otklon suvise na jednu ili na drugu stranu moze odvesti dalje od istine. Neke stavri ce zauvek ostati nepoznanica u svakom slucaju..
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vidis, ja jesam beliver, tu nijesi pogrijesio a to moze bilo ko shvatit , ne bas u sve i svasta al recikliram, sto se tice balansiranja o teorijama zavjere, podaci su uvijek opskurni i to je ono sto teorije zavjere cini teorijama zavjere, cim nema sluzbeno dostupnijeh podataka ili postoji negiranje od nekog autoriteta to automatski spada u domenu onijeh teorija zavjere za naivce koji vjeruju u sve i svasta, ja ne tvrdim da u ovijem teorijama ima svakojakijeh izmisljotina pa cak i konstrukcija ali dovoljno je obratiti samo malo vise paznje i razvrstati zito od kukolja, bar meni uspijeva, ako ti sad kazem da americka ruska i kineska vlada znaju za postojanje elijena i da cak s vremena na vrijeme kontaktiraju s njima, ispadam li lazo, naravno, bilever u sve i svja, medjutim ja sa stopostotnom sigurnoscu znam za postojanje par rasa elijena i da su prisutni i uticu na dogadjanja na planetu, neam dokaze jer meni ih i ne treba a drugima neam sto dokazivati,
za kraj, neke stvari ce ostat nepoznanica, to je istina, mozda ce se i otkrit i izaci na svjetlo al nam moze promaknuti,
za kraj, neke stvari ce ostat nepoznanica, to je istina, mozda ce se i otkrit i izaci na svjetlo al nam moze promaknuti,
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Leviathan2 wrote:vidis, ja jesam beliver, tu nijesi pogrijesio a to moze bilo ko shvatit , ne bas u sve i svasta al recikliram, sto se tice balansiranja o teorijama zavjere, podaci su uvijek opskurni i to je ono sto teorije zavjere cini teorijama zavjere, cim nema sluzbeno dostupnijeh podataka ili postoji negiranje od nekog autoriteta to automatski spada u domenu onijeh teorija zavjere za naivce koji vjeruju u sve i svasta, ja ne tvrdim da u ovijem teorijama ima svakojakijeh izmisljotina pa cak i konstrukcija ali dovoljno je obratiti samo malo vise paznje i razvrstati zito od kukolja, bar meni uspijeva, ako ti sad kazem da americka ruska i kineska vlada znaju za postojanje elijena i da cak s vremena na vrijeme kontaktiraju s njima, ispadam li lazo, naravno, bilever u sve i svja, medjutim ja sa stopostotnom sigurnoscu znam za postojanje par rasa elijena i da su prisutni i uticu na dogadjanja na planetu, neam dokaze jer meni ih i ne treba a drugima neam sto dokazivati,
za kraj, neke stvari ce ostat nepoznanica, to je istina, mozda ce se i otkrit i izaci na svjetlo al nam moze promaknuti,
ma ja sam kolega odrsatao na Dilan Dog I Marti Misteriji i sl. Ne znamo se tako da si mozda stekao dojam da ja branim stavove neke koji su 100% protiv svake teorije i sl.
ne, bas naprotiv, ali moram ti reci da sam i to nedavno imao prilike da se malo vise posvetim tim analizama pa nastupam sa jednog drugacijeg stajalista.
Naprimer da ne sirim to dalje, postoje odreddjeni psiholoski mehanizmi koji su dokazani i naucno potvrdjeni da postoje u ljudskom razmisljanju. Mi kao ljudi smo skloni misliti da je svaki nas zakljucak produkt logike i logickog razmisljanja te kao takav ispravan i tacan.
E tu je prva greska, nismo u pravu i radi nekih ponajprije evolucijskih nasledja cesto donosimo totalno pogresne zakljucke u jednom jako kratkom vremenu. Za to bih ti preporucio knjigu od Kahnemama "Thinking fast and slow". To je nesto sto bi svako trebao da procita
Sledece, jos je Freud utvrdio da kada je covek suocen sa odredjenim vrstama vesti koje mu prozurokuju nelagodu, naprime sanznaje o pogubnom uticaju covekovih aktivnosti na priprdu (fantastican primerka sta vise) nas mozak i kognitivni sistem automatski pokusava da resi tu nastalu anksioznost na nacin sto aktivira razne samo-odbrambene mehanizme.
Evo stavljam ti jedan link sa listom tih mehanizama i kako se na primeru teorije o nepostajanju globalnog zatopljavanja mogu uociti. Naravno i dalje imas pravo da verujes u sto hoces. Ja samo malo dajem prednost necemu sto je ipak na nekom akademskom nivou proucavano ali isto tako verujem da su mnoge zvanicne verzije dogadjaja cista laz.
Denial In general terms, this is an attempt to refuse to accept the truth
or reality of anxiety-provoking information or experience.
Repression To forget or, to use psychoanalytic terminology, to unconsciously put
anxiety- provoking thoughts, experiences and information out of one’s mind.
Regression To revert to a child-like state of dependency, helplessness and anger
at needs not being met when threatened by anxiety-inducing information or experiences.
Displacement To shift feelings from their original, anxiety-provoking, source towards
a less threatening target.
Intellectualisation Distancing oneself emotionally from anxiety-provoking information or
experience. This is achieved by considering the source of anxiety in abstract or academic terms.
Also sometimes referred to as ‘splitting’.
Rationalisation The process of creating an explanation for knowledge or experience that
has provoked anxiety that at some level people know is untrue, but is more
attractive to us. In opting for a more attractive explanation the threat is reduced, if not
removed.
Reaction formation Probably the most counter-intuitive defence mechanism, it refers to
processes in which a person’s outward behaviour expresses the extreme opposite of
inner feelings they consider unacceptable. A classic example is where
unconscious anxiety about the possibility of desiring someone of the same
sex is consciously expressed as its contrast – homophobia – i.e. as distaste, disgust or hatred
towards same-sex relationships.
Projection Here a person projects the anxiety, guilt or insecurity induced by a particular
experience or knowledge on to others, while failing to notice uncomfortable feelings
existing in themselves.
Sublimation The transforming of energy and emotion arising from anxiety-inducing experience or
knowledge into productive outlets and/or socially valued projects. These outlets and
projects may or may not be directly related to the original problem, but they are
productive and socially valued nonetheless. This is the most positive and productive
defence mechanism and is the closest the person comes to dealing with fearprovoking
situations head-on.
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Re: Teorija urote o teorijama urote
Evo ovde je kako se na primeru global warming ti proces odvijaju:
Denial: denial may operate as a mechanism in different ways here. It
might involve insisting that environmental problems do not exist at all
(e.g. it is a liberal/environmentalist conspiracy). There might be denial
that the problems are anthropogenic (e.g. any climate change is just
part of natural cycles, caused by natural phenomena), or that they are
not a threat to humans or the rest of the natural world (e.g. ‘we will
cope as we always have’; ‘it will benefit us as the weather will be nicer
here’).
Repression: ignoring or ‘screening out’ knowledge and information
about anthropogenic environmental degradation as and when it is
encountered in everyday life. The fact that rubbish is discreetly
contained and removed, that consumer goods are apparently in neverending
supply (for people who can afford them), and the perception
that ecological crises are still far off in time or location all make
repression possible.
Regression: examples might include unwavering or exaggerated faith in
leaders or experts of one kind or another to solve ecological problems.
Regression might also include forms of fatalism, as in ‘there is nothing
I/we can do about it’, or raging against threats to feelings of
entitlement posed by ecological crisis, as in ‘why should I/we have to
give anything up?’
Displacement: instead of becoming active in a campaigning organisation
which tries to change the consumption patterns of society as a whole –
which would require a huge change in lifestyle and social structures,
and which would probably produce anxiety and insecurity – people
might instead commit to ‘small steps’ activities such as changing to
low-energy light bulbs. Instead of acknowledging the more profound
changes and challenges necessary, people take up the easy, the optional,
and the simple changes to their lives. Once they have incorporated that
small step into their daily routines, their anxiety is reduced even
though their overall consumption patterns have not changed.
Intellectualisation: examples include placing crises in the historical
context of the collapse of civilisations (e.g. ‘this has happened before,
it will happen again, so there is nothing we can do’), or questioning the
possibility of the ‘proof ’ of human-induced climate change in the
context of a commitment to falsifiability in science (e.g. because
science describes findings in terms of probabilities, people might argue
that ‘we cannot be sure anthropogenic climate change is happening and
should spend more time on things we know for sure are happening’).
Rationalisation: anxiety might be created by unnecessary purchases of
consumer goods, for example, due to knowledge of environmental
consequences of overconsumption (e.g. another pair of shoes).
Someone might rationalise this purchase in a number of ways, such as
the shoes being particularly good value, providing a necessary
alternative to existing shoes, or meaning that they do not need to buy
a pair next year. These are more attractive explanations than the
unconscious, anxiety-provoking thought process that might go
something like: ‘I get pleasure from buying things whether I need them
or not, and will do so, despite knowing about sweatshops,
overconsumption and environmental degradation, etc.’).
Reaction formation: in relation to environmental problems, this might
take the form of extreme hostility expressed by environmentalists
towards others for continuing to adopt ‘conventional’ lifestyles
(because environmentalists feel anxiety about conventional aspects of
their own lifestyle that they cannot accept). Alternatively, vehemence
might be directed at environmentalists by non-environmentalists for
being ‘tree huggers’ (because non-environmentalists feel anxiety about
their own role in anthropogenic ecological degradation that they
cannot accept). In both cases, the extremeness of the reaction is taken
to imply underlying conflict.
Projection: in terms of environmental problems, projection is reflected
in the blaming of others (nations, communities, groups) for polluting
more, consuming more, having more responsibility to solve the crises
than ‘me’ or ‘us’, thereby alleviating ‘us’ of responsibility. For example,
highlighting developing countries’ building of coal-fired power plants
shifts the blame at a national level from the citizens of developed
countries to a distant and more responsible other.
Sublimation: in terms of environmental problems this might mean
engaging in artistic or creative practices that express anxiety as a way
of acknowledging and sharing it (Adams, 2014). Sublimation might also
involve seeking dialogue or social support to find ways of resolving
ecological crises, as in the example of the organisation Carbon
Conversations (see Section 4.3), contributing to an environmentalist or
environmental justice social movement, or joining an organisation
dedicated to the protection of the natural world.
Denial: denial may operate as a mechanism in different ways here. It
might involve insisting that environmental problems do not exist at all
(e.g. it is a liberal/environmentalist conspiracy). There might be denial
that the problems are anthropogenic (e.g. any climate change is just
part of natural cycles, caused by natural phenomena), or that they are
not a threat to humans or the rest of the natural world (e.g. ‘we will
cope as we always have’; ‘it will benefit us as the weather will be nicer
here’).
Repression: ignoring or ‘screening out’ knowledge and information
about anthropogenic environmental degradation as and when it is
encountered in everyday life. The fact that rubbish is discreetly
contained and removed, that consumer goods are apparently in neverending
supply (for people who can afford them), and the perception
that ecological crises are still far off in time or location all make
repression possible.
Regression: examples might include unwavering or exaggerated faith in
leaders or experts of one kind or another to solve ecological problems.
Regression might also include forms of fatalism, as in ‘there is nothing
I/we can do about it’, or raging against threats to feelings of
entitlement posed by ecological crisis, as in ‘why should I/we have to
give anything up?’
Displacement: instead of becoming active in a campaigning organisation
which tries to change the consumption patterns of society as a whole –
which would require a huge change in lifestyle and social structures,
and which would probably produce anxiety and insecurity – people
might instead commit to ‘small steps’ activities such as changing to
low-energy light bulbs. Instead of acknowledging the more profound
changes and challenges necessary, people take up the easy, the optional,
and the simple changes to their lives. Once they have incorporated that
small step into their daily routines, their anxiety is reduced even
though their overall consumption patterns have not changed.
Intellectualisation: examples include placing crises in the historical
context of the collapse of civilisations (e.g. ‘this has happened before,
it will happen again, so there is nothing we can do’), or questioning the
possibility of the ‘proof ’ of human-induced climate change in the
context of a commitment to falsifiability in science (e.g. because
science describes findings in terms of probabilities, people might argue
that ‘we cannot be sure anthropogenic climate change is happening and
should spend more time on things we know for sure are happening’).
Rationalisation: anxiety might be created by unnecessary purchases of
consumer goods, for example, due to knowledge of environmental
consequences of overconsumption (e.g. another pair of shoes).
Someone might rationalise this purchase in a number of ways, such as
the shoes being particularly good value, providing a necessary
alternative to existing shoes, or meaning that they do not need to buy
a pair next year. These are more attractive explanations than the
unconscious, anxiety-provoking thought process that might go
something like: ‘I get pleasure from buying things whether I need them
or not, and will do so, despite knowing about sweatshops,
overconsumption and environmental degradation, etc.’).
Reaction formation: in relation to environmental problems, this might
take the form of extreme hostility expressed by environmentalists
towards others for continuing to adopt ‘conventional’ lifestyles
(because environmentalists feel anxiety about conventional aspects of
their own lifestyle that they cannot accept). Alternatively, vehemence
might be directed at environmentalists by non-environmentalists for
being ‘tree huggers’ (because non-environmentalists feel anxiety about
their own role in anthropogenic ecological degradation that they
cannot accept). In both cases, the extremeness of the reaction is taken
to imply underlying conflict.
Projection: in terms of environmental problems, projection is reflected
in the blaming of others (nations, communities, groups) for polluting
more, consuming more, having more responsibility to solve the crises
than ‘me’ or ‘us’, thereby alleviating ‘us’ of responsibility. For example,
highlighting developing countries’ building of coal-fired power plants
shifts the blame at a national level from the citizens of developed
countries to a distant and more responsible other.
Sublimation: in terms of environmental problems this might mean
engaging in artistic or creative practices that express anxiety as a way
of acknowledging and sharing it (Adams, 2014). Sublimation might also
involve seeking dialogue or social support to find ways of resolving
ecological crises, as in the example of the organisation Carbon
Conversations (see Section 4.3), contributing to an environmentalist or
environmental justice social movement, or joining an organisation
dedicated to the protection of the natural world.
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Re: Teorija urote o teorijama urote
a Pišta Baći i Teorije Urota... ..nisu to Urote..Nego puko vladanje nad masama teladi svjecke..baj eni min neseseri
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Re: Teorija urote o teorijama urote
Poluge i mehanizmi postoje ali isto tako nekada se ignorise da su neke stavri jednostavno zaista cista slucajnost i nista drugo.bogomdani wrote:a Pišta Baći i Teorije Urota... ..nisu to Urote..Nego puko vladanje nad masama teladi svjecke..baj eni min neseseri
Ljudi su verovali ili ne ekstremno losi "prirodni statisticari" a ubedjeni smo da smo u stanju da damo dobru procenu u mnogim stavrima.
Ima tu i matematike i statistike i spihologije ali lepse je kad se masta razgali
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