Turska dala ultimatum SADu

Turska dala ultimatum SADu izrucite nam Gulena ili bi stvari mogle krenuti po zlu

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/turska-dala-ultimatum-sadu-izrucite-nam-glena-ili-bi-stvari-mogle-krenuti-po-zlu/908562.aspx

URSKI ministar vanjskih poslova Mevlut Cavusoglu rekao je kako bi odnosi između Turske i SAD-a mogli biti narušeni ukoliko Amerika ne izruči turskoj klerika Fethullaha Gülena.

Podsjetimo, Ankara optužuje klerika za propali pokušaj vojnog udara.

Cavusoglu je upozorenje izrekao pred putovanje u SAD, gdje bi s američkim diplomatima trebao razgovarati o stanju bilateralnih odnosa dviju zemalja.

Amerika je u više navrata obznanila kako, prije izručenja, od Turske očekuje predočivanje konkretnih dokaza koji inkriminiraju Gülena.

Cavusoglu: EU ne može prijetiti Turskoj

Pravni stručnjaci upozorili su kako bi sam proces vezan uz izručivanje mogao potrajati godinama.

Turski šef diplomacije kazao je i kako Turska razmišlja o opozivu nekolicine ambasadora za koje se vjeruje kako su bili povezani s pokušajem puča. Dodao je i kako Europska unija "ne može prijetiti Turskoj", piše RT.

"Štitimo europske vrijednosti. Europski službenici često kažu ono što im je na umu, no kada to postane prijetnja, onda je to kontraproduktivno", istaknuo je Cavusoglu.

ode turska, jameri na aparatima :D

Za kaznu im treba priznati Kurdistan kao samostalnu državu.
Ili tako nešto.

Sultan Erdo jedini i istinski lider novog doba. Odjebao Amere po drugi put i spržio Putinu aviončić. Sultan

gargamel0101 wrote:Sultan Erdo jedini i istinski lider novog doba. Odjebao Amere po drugi put i spržio Putinu aviončić. Sultan

dva brata po drugi put

epikur37 wrote:ode turska, jameri na aparatima :D

ti zaokrenuo prema erdoganu 180 stupnjeva

marcellus wrote:

epikur37 wrote:ode turska, jameri na aparatima :D

ti zaokrenuo prema erdoganu 180 stupnjeva

Valjda je erdogan zaokrenuo politiku, ja sam na istoj osmatracnici ;)

marcellus wrote:

epikur37 wrote:ode turska, jameri na aparatima :D

ti zaokrenuo prema erdoganu 180 stupnjeva

lipo smo ja i ti pogodili, ja cilo vrime spominjem da su oni "dva bijesna oka u jednoj glavi" a onda me ekipa pljuje i mrzi, i kada si ti na dnevno napisao kolumnu da je iza puča USA i da će Erdogan Rusiji i tebe su pljuvali, a sada odjedanput zaokret za 180 u glavama ovih... ruso-vehjabija

dva brata wrote:

marcellus wrote:

epikur37 wrote:ode turska, jameri na aparatima :D

ti zaokrenuo prema erdoganu 180 stupnjeva

lipo smo ja i ti pogodili, ja cilo vrime spominjem da su oni "dva bijesna oka u jednoj glavi" a onda me ekipa pljuje i mrzi, i kada si ti na dnevno napisao kolumnu da je iza puča USA i da će Erdogan Rusiji i tebe su pljuvali, a sada odjedanput zaokret za 180 u glavama ovih... ruso-vehjabija

Vas dvojicu mora lupit u čelo da bi nešto skužili i vidjeli :p :)

U glavnom, u prošlom tjednu u Turskoj se dogodio značajan obrat i zauzeta je nova pozicija. Što naravno traži novu procjenu a procjena nove pozicije Turske je da je ona s geopolitičkog aspekt a bolja nego što je bila zadnjih mjeseci. Barem za nas koji se protivimo američkoj hegemoniji i amero-vehabijskoj bliskoistočnoj inicijativi.

Tak da, stavr je prosta kao pasulj.

In First "Emergency" Decree, Erdogan Seizes Thousands Of Hospitals, Schools, Charities

In his first "emergency powers" decree, published by the Anadolu state news agency, Erdogan authorised the closure of 1,043 private schools, 1,229 charities and foundations, 19 trade unions, 15 universities and 35 hospitals over suspected links to the Gulen movement. The government also announced it would seize the properties of all these schools, universities and private institutions.

In the decree Erdogan also extended to a maximum of 30 days from four days the period in which some suspects can be detained. It said this was "to facilitate a full investigation into the coup attempt."

Further pointing that the coup had been staged, on Friday evening Erdogan held his first meeting since the coup with the head of the national intelligence agency, Hakan Fidan, after complaining of significant intelligence shortcomings ahead of the coup attempt. Despite media speculation, however, he did not sack Fidan. Naturally, this would be the first person that should be fired. Alternatively, in case Hakan was the person orchestrating a staged coup attempt, he should be promoted and decorated as the final outcome could not have been better for Erdogan.

The farce wouldn't be complete without continued Turkish support to "democracy" - speaking at a meeting of G20 finance ministers and central bankers in China on Saturday, Reuters reported that Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Mehmet Simsek said Turkey would strongly adhere to democratic principles and the rule of law.

We can only imagine what the independent media's reaction would be if the same putsch had taken place elsewhere, like for example in Russia.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-23/first-emergency-decree-erdogan-shuts-down-thousands-hospitals-schools-charities

Ovaj Neuki Deda uvijek otvara bas interesantne teme..steta sto se forumasi uglavnom kaljuzaju po besmislenim temama i raspravama..

bas me zanima rtazvoj dogadjaja..

i šta će biti sad??

Pa,zanimljivo je da Turska i Usa dolaze u diplomatski sukob,jer ako ameri daju tog tipa Erdoganu,mogu pisati propalo sto se tice demokracije,i istovremeno srati o njoj..a ako ne,bude zanimljivo pratiti tursku reakciju..

NIšta. Al na kraju slijedi ubijanje pseta i vojska preuzima vlast. Amerika win.

na kraju svi Čukovi ugibaju,ali to moze i potrajati prilicno dugo...

bogomdani wrote:na kraju svi Čukovi ugibaju,ali to moze i potrajati prilicno dugo...

Erdogana sad štiti i ruska tajna služba tako da će to potrajati al ishpod se zna samo se ne zna kad će to bit.

RayMabus wrote:NIšta. Al na kraju slijedi ubijanje pseta i vojska preuzima vlast. Amerika win.

opet će biti mrtvih i oružje se prodavat.....
....primitivno..

kanibal, ali 'naš' kanibal, zadržati ga u toj poziciji po svaku cijenu

Yet to brand Erdoğan a dictator and blame him for all Turkey’s woes would be foolish and, from a western perspective, counterproductive.
He has managed to hold together a country that has a relatively recent acquaintance with democracy and a long intimacy with internal and external strife. He is the elected leader of an elected government. He has presided over a broad improvement in living standards and economic wellbeing, which helps explain his grassroots support.

Despite mistakes and miscalculations, he has prevented Turkey being sucked into the Syrian maelstrom. He has (more or less) allied himself with western countries opposed to Isis, he has maintained Turkey’s membership of Nato, and he has kept his head in the face of repeated terrorist attacks in the past year. He has also co-operated, imperfectly and at a price, with European efforts to control the destabilising flow of Syrian and other refugees into the EU.

These are not inconsiderable achievements, from a domestic perspective and when looked at from Brussels, London or Washington. At a time when the renewed bombardment of Aleppo has brought predictions that Bashar al-Assad and his Russian and Iranian backers are on the brink of winning the Syrian war, it is plain, too, that the US, the Arab states and the western coalition need Turkish solidarity and support in facing whatever may come next. And at a time when a sudden explosion of internal malignity has exposed the Turkish state’s startling fragility, it is evident the Ankara government needs strong working relationships and enhanced mutual understanding with reliable allies in the EU and the US.

.. pa malo moljakanja i wishful thinkinga, na koje Erdogan vjerojatno neće pomaknuti ni trepavicu

The existence of this common ground has long been obvious. What is needed now are ground rules to reboot a relationship that has got badly out of sync. First, Erdoğan should calm down, seek out the coup’s real perpetrators in an orderly and legal fashion and not try to exploit the situation to settle scores with people and organisations not remotely connected to the putsch.

Rather than pursue expanded presidential powers, he should publicly acknowledge the primacy of Turkish parliamentary democracy and the pro-Kurdish opposition’s legitimate role, lift the state of emergency, drop his threats to restore the death penalty and halt assaults on free speech by ending the persecution of independent academics, media and journalists.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/23/turkey-attempted-coup-relationship-with-west-erdogan

Njemačka je kleknula, vidjet ćemo USA

Dobar je Erdogan. Zamisli samo da je neki eu poltron ovo ono , Turska ulazi u eu vamo tamo , dobiješ 80 miljona muslimana u eu preko noći ....a ovako ovaj ih je vratija već sad unazad najmanje 10 godina tj udaljija od eu.

Samo naprijed Erdogane. Podrška.