Posljednja Indijanka s Ognjene zemlje imala je hrvatsko prezime

Suštinski tu ne treba neka velika vojna suradnja niti to mora biti nešto izrazito militaristički .....bitno je samo da postoji linija komunikacije i ljudi koji vezuju i jednu i drugu stranu.

Hidrografski institut.

To je njima ovako baš zanimljivo , južni pol , Ognejna zemlja , mageljanov prolaz.

Sasvim je jednostavno napravit vojnu suradnju sa bilo kime samo moraš gledati : šta ti njima možeš dati a njima je zanimljivo a super je za obje zemlje.

Evo :

Značajan doprinos unapređenju hidrografsko-navigacijskog elementa sigurnosti plovidbe, Hrvatski hidrografski institut (HHI) ostvario je izdavanjem hrvatskih elektroničkih navigacijskih karta (ENC) i osiguravanjem njihove dostupnosti krajnjim korisnicima na brodovima i pomorskim upravama diljem svijeta.

http://www.hhi.hr/

Školovani ljudi , ovo je bitno i za sigurnost plovidbe dakle i ekonomija ......slućajno se zapuca u Evropi digneš slušalicu a ovi kako znaju parlat španjolski jer će dole ić na upoznavanje i istraživanje samo naruće 200 topova i čega već ne ....ova ekipa je vezana uz transport i plovne puteve a vojska je ....to će ti doć u relativnom kratkom roku jer si im saveznik.

Postoji priča kako su istraživači i pioniri koji su istraživali američki kontinent pronašli indijansko pleme Horovati koji su poglavicu nazivali Dundo.

Ja sam za mir no to ne znači da sam debil.

U Evropi kad se zapuca svim će trebat oružje a vjerovatnost da će Argentii ili Ćileu trebat oružje tada tj da će kod njih biti neki rat kad i u Evropi je praktički ravan nuli.

Hidrografski institut ......školovani ljudi , sigurnost plovidbe , suradnja , upoznavanje i suradnja ......dođe do rata ovi malo kako znaju španjolski jer će ga naučit i znaju ljude a ovo je i kod njih vojska samo digne slušalicu i ide nakrcan brdo pun viška opreme koje njima ne treba a unaprijed se pogleda šta bi ti bilo zanimljivo ....pa samo izabereš iz arsenala :


[th]SMGs[/th][th]Rifles[/th][th]Shotguns[/th][th]Machine guns[/th]

FMK-3		9×19mm	Submachine gun	Argentina
Colt SMG		9×19mm	Submachine gun	United States	Used by the special forces.
MP5		9×19mm	Submachine gun	Germany	Used by the special forces.
Sterling		9x19mm	Submachine gun	United Kingdom	Limited use by the special forces.
FAL		7.62×51mm	Battle rifle	Belgium	Standard rifle. Manufactured by DGFM.
AUG		5.56×45mm	Assault rifle	Austria
M16		5.56×45mm	Assault rifle	United States	To be replaced.
FARA 83		5.56×45mm	Assault rifle	Argentina	Limited use.
M4		5.56×45mm	Carbine rifle	United States	Used by the special forces.
C8		5.56×45mm	Carbine rifle	Canada	Used by the special forces.
SSG 69		7.62×51mm	Sniper rifle	Austria
M24		7.62×51mm	Sniper rifle	United States
CZ 750		7.62×51mm	Sniper rifle	Czech Republic	Used by the special forces.
SVD		7.62×54mm	Sniper rifle	Russia	Limited use. Acquired from Venezuela[2]
HS .50		12.7×99mm	Anti materiel rifle	Austria
M82		12.7×99mm	Anti materiel rifle	United States	Used by the special forces.
M95		12.7×99mm	Anti materiel rifle	United States	Used by the special forces.
Ithaca 37		12/70	Shotgun	United States
M870		12/70	Shotgun	United States
SpecOps		12/70	Shotgun	Argentina	Used by the special forces.
M4 Super 90		12/70	Shotgun	Italy
MAG		7.62×51mm	Medium machine gun	Belgium	Manufactured by DGFM.
MG74		7.62×51mm	Medium machine gun	Austria	Austrian version of the german MG 3.
M240		7.62×51mm	Medium machine gun	United States	American version of the belgian MAG.
Browning M2		12.7×99mm	Heavy machine gun	United States	Use mounted on Humvees and oters.

Grenades, anti-aircraft and anti-tank systems

[th]Name[/th][th]Type[/th][th]Quantity[/th][th]Origin[/th][th]Notes[/th]

FMK-2 Mod. 0[3]	Hand grenade		Argentina
Mk 19 AGL	Automatic grenade launcher	10	United States
M72 LAW	Rocket launcher	+1000	United States
AT4	Anti-tank weapon	557	Sweden
MARA[4]	Anti-tank weapon		Argentina
Model 1968	Recoilless rifle	180	Argentina
Model 1974 FMK-1[3]	Recoilless rifle	150	Argentina	105mm
Mathogo	Anti-tank guided missile	120	Argentina
BGM-71 TOW	Anti-tank guided missile	21	United States
RBS 70	Man-portable air-defense system	12	Sweden

Artillery systems

Mortars

• 440 × 120 mm mortars
  
• 1100 × 81 mm mortars
  
• 214 × 60 mm mortars
  

Field artillery

[th]Name[/th][th]Type[/th][th]Quantity[/th][th]Origin[/th][th]Notes[/th][th]Photo[/th]

M-101	105mm Howitzer	60	United States
OTO Melara Mod 56	105mm Howitzer	70	Italy	24 more ordered, to be delivered over two years[5]
CITEFA Model 77	155mm Howitzer	108	Argentina
CALA 30	155 mm Howitzer	2	Argentina	Developed to replace the CITEFA Model 77
M-114	155 mm Howitzer	84	United States

Self-propelled artillery

[th]Name[/th][th]Type[/th][th]Quantity[/th][th]Origin[/th][th]Notes[/th][th]Photo[/th]

VCTM	Self-propelled mortar	13	Germany/ Argentina	TAM variant carrying a 120mm AM-50 mortar
AMX Mk F3	Self-propelled howitzer	20	France	155 mm gun on AMX-13 hull, to be replaced by 36 M109A2 or A5 howitzers[6]
VCA Palmaria	Self-propelled howitzer	17	Argentina/ Italy	155 mm gun. Palmaria turret mated to a modified TAM hull
SLAM PAMPERO	Multiple rocket launcher	4	Argentina	105 mm multiple rocket launcher mounted on a Unimog truck
SLAM SAPBA	Multiple rocket launcher	30	Argentina	127 mm multiple rocket launcher mounted on a FIAT 697 truck
SLAM VCLC	Multiple rocket launcher	1	Argentina	105 mm multiple rocket launcher mounted on a VCTAM hull

Anti-aircraft systems

[th]Name[/th][th]Type[/th][th]Quantity[/th][th]Origin[/th][th]Notes[/th][th]Photo[/th]

Hispano Suiza GAI B01	20 mm anti-aircraft gun	20	France	Being automated
Bofors L/60	40 mm anti-aircraft gun	262	Sweden
L90 twin cannon	35 mm anti-aircraft gun	38	Switzerland
RBS 70	Surface-to-air missile system	12	Sweden	To be acquired[6]
Roland	Surface-to-air missile system	3	France

Armored vehicles

Tanks

[th]Equipment[/th][th]Origin[/th][th]Type[/th][th]Quantity^[7][/th][th]Notes[/th][th]Photo[/th]

TAM	Germany /  Argentina	Main Battle Tank	200[8]	Modernised by Elbit Systems, with new gun stabilizing systems.[9]
SK-105 Kurassier	Austria	Light tank	112 + 6	SK-105A1 variant 112 tanks, SK-105A2 variant 6 tanks.[8]
AMX-13/105	France	Light tank	40	Being phased out in favour of the Patagon
Patagón	Argentina	Light tank	10	Argentinian developed tank with SK-105 chassis with an AMX-13 turret.

Infantry fighting vehicles and Armored personnel carriers

[th]Equipment[/th][th]Origin[/th][th]Type[/th][th]Quantity^[7][/th][th]Notes[/th][th]Photo[/th]

Panhard AML-90 4×4	France	Light Armored car/reconnaissance	47
AMX-13 VCPC	France	Armored personnel carrier	28 [8]
VCTP	Germany/ Argentina	Infantry fighting vehicle	123 [8]	IFV variant of the TAM. Tank turret replaced with a turret mounted 20mm autocannon
M113	United States	Armored personnel carrier	500	Including variants (M577,M106,M548,...). 70 M113A1, 114 M113A2, 315 M113A2 with 20 mm gun
WZ551 6×6	China	Armored personnel carrier	4	Will be used in UN peacekeeping in Haiti.[10]
Norinco VN-1 8×8	China	Armored personnel carrier/Infantry fighting vehicle	-	110 in ordered (2015)[citation needed]
M106A2 mortar carrier	United States	Mortar carrier	25 [8]	-

Support vehicles

[th]Name[/th][th]Type[/th][th]Quantity[/th][th]Origin[/th][th]Notes[/th][th]Photo[/th]

Lohr Fardier	All terrain vehicle	50	France	For use by Paratrooper Brigade
Steyr Pinzgauer 6×6	All terrain vehicle	70	Austria
M151A2 MUTT	Light Utility Vehicle	340	United States
Mercedes-Benz MB 230G	Light Utility Vehicle	1000	Germany
Isuzu Trooper	Light Utility Vehicle	147	Japan
VLEGA Gaucho	Light Utility Vehicle	36	Argentina/ Brazil	Currently[when?] awaiting "civilian homologation" (legal issues). About to enter active duty.[when?] Project interaction with Brazil stopped as of 2011.[clarification needed] The only user is now the Argentine Army.[citation needed]
Humvee	Light Utility Vehicle	250	United States	For use in UN peacekeeping missions
Agrale Marruá	Light Utility Vehicle	60	Brazil	Use in UN peacekeeping missions
Ford F350	Light utility truck	50	United States	Used to transport the mobile switching centers
Ford F150	Light utility truck	485	United States/ Argentina	Were locally built in Argentina by Ford de Argentina SA
Chevrolet M1008	Light utility truck	70	United States
Volkswagen Amarok	Light utility truck	150	Germany/ Argentina
Ford Ranger	Light utility truck	100	United States
Mercedes-Benz MB 1112/1113/1114 4×4	Utility truck	790	Germany/ Argentina	Were locally built in Argentina by Mercedes Benz Argentina SA
Mercedes-Benz MB 1720 4×4	Utility truck	300	Germany/ Brazil	Are built by Mercedes Benz do Brasil Limitada.
Mercedes-Benz Unimog U-416/421/431 4×4	Light Tactical Wheeled Vehicle 4×4	2000	Germany
M939 Truck	Heavy equipment transporter	80	United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_Argentine_Army

Avijacija i sama mornarica slabo al zato zalihe u vojarnama kopnene vojske jako zanimljivo ....posebno ovo :

CITEFA Model 77

155mm Howitzer

108

Argentina

Ruka ruku miluje.

Dobro hoće li netko od admina primiriti ovog pomahnitalog mesopusta?

jastreb wrote:Dobro hoće li netko od admina primiriti ovog pomahnitalog mesopusta?

A šta tebi sad smeta ?

Hr Argetinska suradnja ?

Ajde bježi.

jastreb wrote:Dobro hoće li netko od admina primiriti ovog pomahnitalog mesopusta?

Da pričam o suradnji Srbije i Hr onda ti ne bi smetalo ?

Onda bi se uključio u razgovor a ovako ti smeta.

A jbga shvati da je Juga i povezivanje sa Srbijom kaput idućih nekoliko desetljeća najmanje.

Sad smo čupakabra.

Aj ne seri....., još če ispast da Kolinda direktan potomak Bika koji sjedi...

RayMabus wrote:

jastreb wrote:Dobro hoće li netko od admina primiriti ovog pomahnitalog mesopusta?

Da pričam o suradnji Srbije i Hr onda ti ne bi smetalo ?

Onda bi se uključio u razgovor a ovako ti smeta.

A jbga shvati da je Juga i povezivanje sa Srbijom kaput idućih nekoliko desetljeća najmanje.

Sad smo čupakabra.

Kakve to veze ima sa indijancima???

Kaso i ovo aserehe-ha-ha-he-he?

Ima ....hidorgrafski institu ....vojska ....suradnja ...Ognjena zelja ...Mageljano prolaz ....ekonomija.

Valjda ne možeš powatat moju širinu planowa i ulazak u detalje ...al ewo  :

Punta Arenas (hrv.: "Pješčana Točka") je najjužniji čileanski grad smješten na polotoku Brunswicku na obali Magellanova prolaza. Punta Arenas je upravno središte najjužnije regije Magallanes y de la Antártica Chilena. Po veličini je treći najveći grad Patagonije; neki ga navode kao najjužniji grad na svijetu iako je zapravo grad Ushuaia u Argentini najjužniji na svijetu. Prema popisu stanovništva iz 2008., grad broji oko 146.000 stanovnika, a prema nekim izvorima, polovica stanovništva Punta Arenasa je hrvatskog podrijetla.


Satelitska snimka Mageljanova prolaza

marcus-t wrote:Dobro Ero, na kraju je zaključak da su Hrvati porijeklom američki indijanci?   Jel to napokon kraj lutanja u potrazi za nacionalnim identitetom i porijeklom? Bitno da nismo Slaveni.

Indijanci ste vi, jedino još fali da vas damo u rezervat.
Žicu kupimo zapo cijene od Mađara. 

jastreb wrote:Postoji priča kako su istraživači i pioniri koji su istraživali američki kontinent pronašli indijansko pleme Horovati koji su poglavicu nazivali Dundo.

 Pa imaš google biće .......a

 Kakvi Horovati radi se o plemenu Crow pa kad su neki Ameri čuli da su Crowati  zaratili,

mislili da se to pleme pobunilo.

kako se zove onaj film gdje je neka hrvatska familija u Australiji a Ninu pumpa neki domorodac,ima scena gdje Ninina baba udje u sobu bas kad ga ona jasi hahaha

koja Nina, koji film, prvi put čujem. Uopće ne pratim Balkansku kinematografiju.

Nego zašto je to sada bitno.

ma nebitno nego eto palo mi na pamet

Winter is coming wrote:ma nebitno nego eto palo mi na pamet

Lako tebi, ti si svoj na svomu.