Bloomberg i liberalne elite zahtijevaju ukidanje gotovog novca

deda na aparatima wrote:

crvenkasti wrote:
Dolar ne može tržišno izgibiti na vrijednosti. Kao da imaš tiskaru u kojoj tiskaš koliko god hoćeš love.

Ako amerikanci ne tiskaju stalno novi novac, od kud će ga dobiti svi drugi koji ne žive u americi? Ako u svijetu postoji potražnja za dolarima, američka centralna banka i bankarski sektor moraju zadovoljiti tu potražnju.

Brain32 wrote:

deda na aparatima wrote:

crvenkasti wrote:

deda na aparatima wrote:

asilovski wrote:
1. konjak ili cigare sam rekao usput, ali u svakom slučaju tvoj radnik neće moći platiti režije ili stanaranu to je dovoljno

sve se može zaobići

npr. otvoriš novi tekući račun, s drugog računa na taj prebaciš iznos za plaću radniku
karticu i pin daš radniku da troši i plaća što god treba

kad rad na crno bude okončan ili ti radnik vrati karticu, ili jednostavno zatvoriš račun

I kako ćeš to knjigovodstveno pravdati, genije?

Pa ne vodiš tekući račun na tvrtku nego na svoje ime. Odkud da država zna tko koristi tvoju karticu, možda ju pegla ljubavnica.

Opet ćeš platit porez na to dapače možda i veći nego da si ga prijavio na standardnu hrvatsku crkavicu...

Brain32 wrote:

upravo_sa_jebachine wrote:a nevirujem da će baš kontrolirati gotovinu, ja i živim od raznih transkacija virtualnom lovom, i gle čuda nitko me nemože kontrolirati.. dapače puno je teže ako se malo razumiješ nego itko.. 

tko će kontrolirati vaše transakcije bitcoinom lol? nemože CIA/FBI/KGB/FSB/MOSSAD zajedno ući u bitcoin i kontrolirati kamo li će vukojebina poput RH..

a ima i drugih načina.. ako koga zanima ti detalji mogu na pp.. ja doslovno sebi izvlačim zarađenu lovu preko posebnih bankomata, i jebe me se, nema straha. 

država dapače neće ništa nadzirati tko se razumije.

Stari nemoj biti tako siguran da država to ne vidi. Ajd' još bitcoin ali direct lova je zajeb, koliko mi je poznato čak niti payoneer nije siguran a paypal ti je povezan sa našom poreznom.
Kvaka je u tome kaj te porezna ispočetka neće ganjat ali je bilo ljudi kojima su nakon par godina došli na vrata sa izlistom svih transakcija i fino pras kaznetina da se smrzneš + buksara...

• The government loses an important alternative to pay for its debts, namely by printing true-to-the-letter paper money. This is why Greece may have to leave the euro, since its inability or unwillingness to adopt more austerity measures, a precondition to secure more euro loans, will force it to print drachma bills to pay for its debts;
  
  
• Paper money costs you nothing to hold and carries no incremental risk (other than physical theft); converting it into bank deposits will cost you fees (and likely earn a negative interest) and expose you to a substantial loss if the bank goes under. After all, you are giving up currency directly backed by the central bank for currency backed by your local bank;
  
  
• This could have grave consequences for retirees, many of whom are incapable of transacting using plastic. Not to mention that they will disproportionately bear the costs of having to hold their liquid savings entirely in a (costly) bank account;
  
  
• Ditto for very poor people, many of whom don’t have access to the banking system; this will only make them more dependent, in fact exclusively dependent, on government handouts;
  
  
• We wonder if the banks would actually like to deal with the administrative hassle of handling millions of very small cash transactions and related customer queries;
  
  
• Illegal immigrants would be out of a job very quickly – a figure that can reach millions in the US, creating the risk for substantial social unrest;
  
  
• If there is an event that disrupts electronic transactions (e.g. extensive power outage, cyberattack, cascading bank failures) people in that economy will not be able to transact and everything will grind to a halt;
  
  
• Of course enforcing a government mandate to ban cash transactions must carry penalties. This in turns means more regulations, disclosure requirements and compliance costs, potentially exorbitant fees and even jail time;
  
  
• Banning cash transactions might even propel the demise of the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency. The share of US dollar bills held abroad has been estimated to be as high as 70% (according to a 1996 report by the US Federal Reserve). One thing is to limit the choices of your own citizens; another is trying to force this policy onto others, which is much harder. Foreigners would probably dump US dollar bills in a hurry and flock to whichever paper currency that can offer comparable liquidity.
  
  

upravo_sa_jebachine wrote:je istina čitam da američka vlada(ne znam za našu) može zatražiti izlist paypall transakcija i dobiti će ih. 

vjerojatno smo mi "američki saveznici" pa bi možda i RH vlada to mogla jer ova će firma dati.

ALi recimo Ruski webmoney, sumnjam da će dati ikakve podatke našoj vladi.  a ima hrpa metoda, ne želim svašta niti pričati, a čak niti ja ne znam sve. (paypall koristim inače minimalno upravo radi nekih nedostataka)

A bitcoin je najsigurniji glede toga, u bitcoin nemogu sve vlade svijeta provaliti

upravo_sa_jebachine wrote:https://www.ewallet-optimizer.com/neteller/neteller-vs-skrill/

ovaj neteller mi se čini šema

upravo_sa_jebachine wrote:https://www.ewallet-optimizer.com/neteller/neteller-vs-skrill/

ovaj neteller mi se čini šema

Brain32 wrote:

upravo_sa_jebachine wrote:https://www.ewallet-optimizer.com/neteller/neteller-vs-skrill/

ovaj neteller mi se čini šema

Čuo sam da su i neteller i skrill isto u banani...tko god prima ozbiljniju lovu bolje mu je firmu napravit...

upravo_sa_jebachine wrote:a ništa izgleda da je bitcoin najsigurniji