Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:Ukrainski gubici bi mogli biti točni cca 15k, a kako je i pirate rekao možda čak i 20k
međutim Ruski da su 10k sve skupa nema šanse. Procurilo je 10k tamo prije 2 mjeseca još , i tada su svi ozbiljni analitičari ih stavljali na  10k.
Istina je da zadnja dva mjeseca Rusi imaju manje gubitke po danu(a vidi se da izuzev tipa uništavanja 80 komada teške tehnike kod prelaska rijeke nije bilo ogromnih uništenih kolona -barem nema videozapisa kao u prvoj fazi rata), sve jedno jučer sam ja procjenio Ruske gubitke na 15k
a izašle zapadne obavještajne procjene gdje su ih stavili između 15-20k.
(iako i 10k poginulih rusa u 3mjeseca je više nego svi američki gubici u zadnjih 30godina ratovanja po svijetu a ovi su asevi uništili pola planete)

To su neusporedive stvari...
Amerikanci od 1945. nisu vodili ovakav rat...

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:fenomen mi je kako ruse svako malo ovi razvale stugnom dok ti asevi rusi jašu na oklopnom vozilu.. isusami se ja nebi popeo na njega

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1535349525367373826

Kako je jedan lijepo odletio na kraju po zraku. Dupla pirueta sa pudding spuštanjem.

pokerjocker wrote:Vrlo je jednostavno. Rusija ima najveći terotirij, a po gustoći naseljenosti su među zadnjima. Stariji dečki su rekli to tako ne može, moramo je smanjiti. Vještim manevrima uspjeli su isprovocirat rat sa Ukrajinom. Da nije Ukrajina, našli bi nešto drugo. Sad ove budaletine na forumu neka nastave keljiti imbecilne slike i videa kako Ukri razvaljuju Ruse i vikat slava Ukrajini. To što ovi dnevno potamane 200 Ukra, boli ih racku... Koje budale....

i svisci motaju čokse i tako to.

opće nepoznavanje povjesti je već zamorno.

najbliže što se ruski imperijalizam približio agendi rusija od pacifika do antlantika i od sjevernog pola do sredozemlja je bilo u toku smrdljivog dogovora s jalte.

onda je rusija bila najbliže atlantiku i sredozemlju.

ovu "interventnu denacificiranje europe" od strane rusije treba rastegnut barem na deset godina.



rat traje tri mjeseca. youtube je.
neka zazimi.

u svakom slučaju njemačka bi trebala tražiti koenigsburg i naravno obeštećenje od rusije, jer su anektirali davni prostornjemačke.
japan, mora tražiti kurile natrag.

isto tako anektirane države prije staljina.

finskoj neka se vrati teritorij.

u svakom slučaju maksimalno vršit pritisak na stoku.


nadam se hladnoj zimi.

T. wrote:

AssadNaPodmornici wrote:Ukrainski gubici bi mogli biti točni cca 15k, a kako je i pirate rekao možda čak i 20k
međutim Ruski da su 10k sve skupa nema šanse. Procurilo je 10k tamo prije 2 mjeseca još , i tada su svi ozbiljni analitičari ih stavljali na  10k.
Istina je da zadnja dva mjeseca Rusi imaju manje gubitke po danu(a vidi se da izuzev tipa uništavanja 80 komada teške tehnike kod prelaska rijeke nije bilo ogromnih uništenih kolona -barem nema videozapisa kao u prvoj fazi rata), sve jedno jučer sam ja procjenio Ruske gubitke na 15k
a izašle zapadne obavještajne procjene gdje su ih stavili između 15-20k.
(iako i 10k poginulih rusa u 3mjeseca je više nego svi američki gubici u zadnjih 30godina ratovanja po svijetu a ovi su asevi uništili pola planete)

To su neusporedive stvari...
Amerikanci od 1945. nisu vodili ovakav rat...

ne lupetaj.
francuzi im "prpustili" indokinu.
zginulo ih više nego u drugom.

ali možda za godinu-dvije tvoje naci ideje se ostvare.

tebi je ionako svejedno s koje strane je naci, bitno da je naci.

(doduše onda će se to zvati moskovsko suđenje nacistima)

i opet si spušio foru.

Direkt kučkinom sinu na glavu.

Jedno govno iz zemlje barbara manje.

Evo malo podataka o opremi šta je ukrajinska vojska dobila od Zapada te nekim prednostima i nedostacima s kojim se ukrajinska vojska susreće pri dodiru s istom te nekim brojčanim omjerima trenutno na tom bojištu dugom više od 1500 km :

https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/ukrajina-je-dobila-moderno-i-mocno-zapadno-oruzje-ali-tu-postoje-i-brojni-problemi/2371236.aspx?index_ref=rubrika_vijesti_najcitanije_d

Neka razmišljanja i osvrti na trenutnu situaciju na bojištu u Ukrajini :

https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/je-li-ukrajina-pred-porazom/2371166.aspx?index_ref=rubrika_vijesti_najcitanije_d

veber wrote:

AlfaOmega wrote:Dakle, u prevodu, da im zapad ne šalje ovo što im šalje, rat i stradavanja bi već davno bila gotova.

moglo je biti gotovo prije 70ak godina.
koji kurac su se francuzi i englezi i norvežani, finci, jugoslavija, čak i djelomično grčka suprotstavljali jebenom hitleru.

zamisli da su svi šaptom pali?

danas ne bi bilo židova, dobar dio slavena. njemačka bi bila do urala.

koju pičku materinu su krečili, džaba.

trebalo je pustiti hitlera na istok.

jebemti amere i njihovu dostavu svega šugavim rusima.

trebalo je napraviti deal s hitlerom. lijeva obala rajne do atlantika njemački protektorat, desna obala pa do urala njemačka sa satelitskim državama.


bezveze ginuli britanci, francuzi, ameri. 
da se pustilo hitlera 39e nikaj se ovo danas ne bi desilo.

doduše ne bi bilo židova, slaveni bi bili u rangu mađara i rumunja.
ali dobro ne bi se danas ginulo.

koji ste vi kreteni, to je teško za čitati.

Zamjena teza, veberu. Najlakše je tak simplificirano gledati na problem. Prvo i osnovno, do rata ne bi ni došlo da je implementiran Sporazum iz Minska. Da je bija implementiran, Ukrajina bi imala povraćen suverenitet nad Donbassom. Drugo, kad su Ukri već odlučili da ga odjebu (naivno vjerujući zapadu), i kad je neminovno došlo do sukoba, Rusija je dala jasne uslove za završetak rata - priznanje nezavisnosti Donetska i Luganska, te Krima ka dijela Rusije (puno manje od onoga što Rusi sad drže pod kontrolom). Taj sporazum još uvik stoji na stolu, čeka prihvaćanje od strane vlasti u Kijevu. Ali Zelenski, tapšan od strane ušanaca i osokoljenih UK-ovaca još uvik misli da rat mere dobiti. A jedini epilog, ak nastavi ovak, bit će frozen konflikt gdi će mu zemlja biti još manja, a ono što od nje ostane, protektorat zapada sa ekonomijom u kurcu i korupcijom na nivou. Nešt ko BiH, zemlja na aparatima bez perspektive iz koje će svi gledati da zbrišu na zapad (što zapadu u biti i jest cilj). Još će im i Visokog predstavnika instalirati da im ureduje. A mogli su i oni izbjeći rat da nisu slušali Amere i odjebali Kutiljerov plan.
Najlakše se praviti naivan i gledati na svijet crno-bijelo

AlfaOmega wrote:

veber wrote:

AlfaOmega wrote:Dakle, u prevodu, da im zapad ne šalje ovo što im šalje, rat i stradavanja bi već davno bila gotova.

moglo je biti gotovo prije 70ak godina.
koji kurac su se francuzi i englezi i norvežani, finci, jugoslavija, čak i djelomično grčka suprotstavljali jebenom hitleru.

zamisli da su svi šaptom pali?

danas ne bi bilo židova, dobar dio slavena. njemačka bi bila do urala.

koju pičku materinu su krečili, džaba.

trebalo je pustiti hitlera na istok.

jebemti amere i njihovu dostavu svega šugavim rusima.

trebalo je napraviti deal s hitlerom. lijeva obala rajne do atlantika njemački protektorat, desna obala pa do urala njemačka sa satelitskim državama.


bezveze ginuli britanci, francuzi, ameri. 
da se pustilo hitlera 39e nikaj se ovo danas ne bi desilo.

doduše ne bi bilo židova, slaveni bi bili u rangu mađara i rumunja.
ali dobro ne bi se danas ginulo.

koji ste vi kreteni, to je teško za čitati.

Zamjena teza, veberu. Najlakše je tak simplificirano gledati na problem. Prvo i osnovno, do rata ne bi ni došlo da je implementiran Sporazum iz Minska. Da je bija implementiran, Ukrajina bi imala povraćen suverenitet nad Donbassom. Drugo, kad su Ukri već odlučili da ga odjebu (naivno vjerujući zapadu), i kad je neminovno došlo do sukoba, Rusija je dala jasne uslove za završetak rata - priznanje nezavisnosti Donetska i Luganska, te Krima ka dijela Rusije (puno manje od onoga što Rusi sad drže pod kontrolom). Taj sporazum još uvik stoji na stolu, čeka prihvaćanje od strane vlasti u Kijevu. Ali Zelenski, tapšan od strane ušanaca i osokoljenih UK-ovaca još uvik misli da rat mere dobiti. A jedini epilog, ak nastavi ovak, bit će frozen konflikt gdi će mu zemlja biti još manja, a ono što od nje ostane, protektorat zapada sa ekonomijom u kurcu i korupcijom na nivou. Nešt ko BiH, zemlja na aparatima bez perspektive iz koje će svi gledati da zbrišu na zapad (što zapadu u biti i jest cilj). Još će im i Visokog predstavnika instalirati da im ureduje. A mogli su i oni izbjeći rat da nisu slušali Amere i odjebali Kutiljerov plan.
Najlakše se praviti naivan i gledati na svijet crno-bijelo

Konachno je schwapche iskreno,( iskreni su samo kada se nazderu jeftinog alkohola) pa se mogu sada bolje shvatiti njegove frustracije i ozlojedjenost zajedno sa mnogim kompleksima koje je genetski naslijedio jer mu je utuvljeno da je nadchovjek i da zato ta schwapska gamad treba da sve posjeduju a drugi da budu robovi,No karma je kurva pa su oni sada americhke kujice i tako ce ostati josh stoljecima dok ih ne preodgoje da svi postanu pederi i prestanu se razmnozavati .Ali im zato uvaljuju turke crnce i arape da im poboljshaju genetiku.Dok sam ja tamo zivio ,skoro svaka njemica je shetala najmanje jedno crnche ili neko arapche a o turcima da ne govorim,jebi ga bilo moderno a vjerujem da je i sada jer one odvratne njemice i ne moze nitko drugi zadovoljiti osim crnaca ,arapa i turaka.

A sta da radis budalama ...Ameri i Englezi instalirali svoje agente i odveli ih u propast
Nisam vidio da je neko gluplje upropastio drzavu

Rusi...mirovni prijedlozi su zavrsena stvar.
RUSI uzimaju Novorusiju, oblasti Odessa, Harkov, Zaporozja, Njkolajevsk, Herson, Donjeck, Lugansk, Dnjepropetrovsk plus Krim ...nece stati dok to ne ostvare
Poljaci uzimaj Galiciju i Zapadnu Ukrajinu.
Ostatak sa Kijevom ...ne znam, nema kud nego u Rusiju za Novorusijom.
Mozda neke sitne.komadice uzmu Madjari i Rumunji
Ukrajina kakva je bila do SMO je zavrsila

Steta za Ukrajinu I zao mi je...
Ali to im je njihova tkzv politicka elita priredila
I njihovi zapadni mentori
Sta da im radis...
Provocirati Rusiju osam godina pa cak i duze ...e ne ide to tako kako su neki zamislili

Centralna Banka Rusije snizila kamatne stope na 9.5% sa 11%.
Ali to se i nije nesto odrazilo na kurs Rublje...koji je sad 57.62 za dolar ...

Ringo10 wrote:Centralna Banka Rusije snizila kamatne stope na 9.5%   sa 11%.
Ali to se i nije nesto odrazilo na kurs Rublje...koji je sad 57.62 za dolar ...

Da li imas mozda Telegram messenger?

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-tymoshenko-tape-language-russians/25308845.html  


A crackly recording has been posted on YouTube that appears to catch former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko using salty language and calling for all Russians remaining on Ukrainian territory to be killed with an atomic weapon.

The publisher, "Sergiy Vechirko," alleges the call took place on March 18 -- two days after Crimea's referendum calling for reunification with Russia. He also identifies the speakers as Tymoshenko and the former deputy secretary of Ukraine's National Security and Defense Council, Nestor Shufrych.

The conversation is mostly in Russian, with Shufrych bemoaning the state of affairs in Crimea before Tymoshenko brusquely cuts him off, saying, "Screw it, we should take up arms and kill the goddamned katsaps" -- derogatory Ukrainian slang for Russians -- "along with their leader."

She adds, "I'm sorry I'm not there right now -- there's no way they would have gotten Crimea away from me."

Shufrych goes on to say that a mutual acquaintance, "Viktor," asked what Kyiv should do about the 8 million Russians still living on Ukrainian territory.

"We should hit them with an atomic weapon," Tymoshenko answers back.

WATCH: A YouTube Posting Of Ukrainian Ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko Speaking With Nestor Shufrych



Tymoshenko has acknowledged on Twitter that the phone call was real but said that the content was edited to appear virulently anti-Russian. Regarding the 8 million Russians, Tymoshenko claims her actual statement was "Russians in Ukraine are Ukrainians themselves." She added: "Hi FSB.: )"

Розмова була, але про 8 млн росіян в Україні - монтаж. Насправді сказала: росіяни в Україні - це українці.Привіт ФСБ:) Вибачте за нецензурне
— Юлія Тимошенко (@YuliaTymoshenko) March 24, 2014

The sudden appearance of the recording on YouTube is reminiscent of last month's scandal in which two high-level diplomatic calls were recorded and leaked on social media, including one in which Assistant U.S. Secretary of State Victoria Nuland was caught saying, "F*** the EU."

Tymoshenko was freed from prison last month after her long-time rival, President Viktor Yanukovych, was ousted from power. She had spent nearly three years in jail on abuse of power charges her supporters said were politically motivated.

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The chairman of the Spiritual Administration of Muslims (SAM) of the Russian Federation, Ravil Gaynutdinov, stated that the entire Islamic world is sympathetic to the decision by Russian President Vladimir Putin to conduct a special military operation in Ukraine. 
 
"The entire Islamic and Arab worlds support our president's decision. They expect success for the Russian policy, they are not at all interested in the hegemony of one state, or in creating a unipolar world. Therefore, no Arab countries have imposed sanctions on Russia, and that's really important. They are under enormous pressure from the members of NATO, but despite this they oppose sanctions against our country. This means that the Islamic world has deep respect for our country and our Muslims." he said in an interview with 'Russia-24'.

Bobcat, [04/06/2022 18:41]
good news..amerika drop down...


 

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Looming Price Hikes on Food Set to Hit Americans This Fall

Higher inflation could force Fed action, leading to a 'deeper recession'

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In its effort to contain inflation, the Federal Reserve has begun what many expect to be a series of interest rate boosts, which are already taking a toll on stock and housing markets, with job losses likely to follow. While Americans grow weary of record high gas and grocery prices, however, another round of price increases is making its way through the food supply chain and is expected to reach consumers this fall.

“People don’t realize what’s fixing to hit them,” Texas farmer Lynn “Bugsy” Allen said. “They think it’s tough right now; you give it until October. Food prices are going to double.”

The 8.8 percent increase in food prices that Americans have already seen doesn’t take into account the dramatically higher costs that farmers are now experiencing. That’s because farmers pay upfront and only recoup their expenses at the point of sale, months later.

“Usually, what we see on the farm, the consumer doesn’t see for another 18 months,” said John Chester, a Tennessee farmer of corn, wheat, and soybeans. But with the severity of these cost increases, consumers could feel the effects much sooner, particularly if weather becomes a factor.

“Nothing that consumers are paying is going to bridge the gap for farmers right now,” according to Lorenda Overman, a North Carolina farmer who raises hogs and grows corn, soybeans, and sweet potatoes. She said the spike in fuel costs has put her farm into the red this year.

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“The prices now have not hit the grocery stores yet,” but she expects they will start to by the end of summer.

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Much of the cost of food hinges on the price of oil.

“They have no electric trucks delivering that food and there are no electric tractors,” Allen said. “It takes diesel to run all this.”

Chester said fuel and fertilizer together make up 55 percent of his total costs. The price of diesel fuel has more than doubled, to more than $5 per gallon today from $2.50 per gallon at the end of 2020. Farmers say the cost of fertilizer, an oil derivative, has tripled and in some cases quadrupled.

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“When you look at the machinery that uses diesel, it’s farm equipment, it’s railroads, and it’s truckers,” said Daniel Turner, executive director of the energy advocacy group Power the Future. Diesel “moves all of our goods, it grows our food. From cargo ships arriving from overseas to trucks or trains getting those goods across the country, all those things now have added costs that will get sent to the consumer.”

“That surge in food and energy costs is very demand-destructive for U.S. households,” said Joseph Lavorgna, chief economist at Natixis, a European bank. “If you have to pay a lot more money for your food, to heat or cool your home, or put gasoline in your vehicle to get to work, there’s less money available elsewhere.”

Higher gas and food prices will leave Americans with less money to spend on other goods, which will reduce demand and create repercussions for the wider economy.

Bobcat, [04/06/2022 18:41]
Economic reports are indicating that Americans are already unable to keep up with inflation. Household savings fell to the lowest rate in 14 years, as people struggle to maintain their standard of living. Credit card debt is hitting record highs, and retailers say they’re preparing for more consumers to limit their spending to the “bare-bones basics.”

While it’s possible that Americans’ loss of spending power may help to reduce inflation, some economists fear a return of 1970s-era “stagflation”: rising prices coupled with economic stagnation and increasing unemployment. That period of inflation was ultimately tamed by the Fed raising interest rates to nearly 20 percent.

In contrast to the Carter-era energy crisis, which was sparked by an embargo from foreign oil producers at a time of declining American oil output, today’s energy shortages are largely the result of domestic U.S. government policies, as the Biden administration attempts to force Americans to switch to alternative energy sources such as wind, solar, and electric from fossil fuels. This effort has included shutting pipelines, suspending oil and gas leases, and putting up regulatory roadblocks—all of which has reduced new investment in U.S. oil and gas production.

Last week, President Joe Biden stated that the spike in oil prices is “an incredible transition that is taking place that, God willing, when it’s over, we’ll be stronger and the world will be stronger and less reliant on fossil fuels.”

According to Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm, rising oil prices are “an exclamation point” for the need to transition to wind and solar and “build homegrown clean energy.” Granholm previously stated that “if you drive an electric car, this would not be affecting you.”

With natural gas prices now hitting a 14-year high, the Department of Energy recently posted “a few tips on how you can prepare your home and office to safely navigate a blackout.”

Samantha Power, head of the U.S. Agency for International Development, said the solution to rising fertilizer prices is “natural solutions like manure and compost, and this may hasten transitions that would have been in the interest of farmers anyway. Never let a crisis go to waste.”

“That’s not the real world,” Overman said. “We are in the highest density for hog production in the nation and there’s not enough hog manure or turkey manure or chicken manure to fertilize our crops. We tried this fall to lock in some chicken and turkey litter to spread on our crops and there’s none to be had.

“There’s just not enough animals to produce the amount of fertilizer we need.”

“Energy is a very capital-intensive business, and we’re basically down to about half the level of cap-ex within energy that we had a couple years ago,” Lavorgna said. “A lot of that has to do with the fact that oil companies are not tone-deaf to what shareholders want, or more importantly what the regulators and politicians want.”

 Gasoline prices are posted at a gas station in Washington on May 26, 2022. (Nicholas Kamm/AFP via Getty Images)

“It’s incredibly curious that of all [Biden’s] rhetoric, I have yet to hear anything along the lines of ‘We will do everything to increase production in America.’” Turner said. “They are comfortable with the current state because of their green philosophy, and we’re just necessary casualties.”

Together with ruptures in global supply chains, oil and food prices are a key reason why many economists think the Fed will have a particularly hard time taming inflation.

“There is a real risk the price [of gas] could reach $6 a gallon by August,” Natasha Kaneva, head of global oil and commodities research at JPMorgan Chase, told reporters. “U.S. retail price could surge another 37 percent by August.”

The higher prices climb, the more aggressive the Fed will need to be to contain inflation.


Tako...prvo da navijaci Zapada ovo provare...

Ringo10 wrote:A sta da radis budalama ...Ameri i Englezi instalirali svoje agente i odveli ih u propast
Nisam vidio da je neko gluplje upropastio drzavu

Rusi...mirovni prijedlozi su zavrsena stvar.
RUSI uzimaju Novorusiju, oblasti Odessa, Harkov, Zaporozja, Njkolajevsk, Herson, Donjeck, Lugansk, Dnjepropetrovsk plus Krim ...nece stati dok to ne ostvare
Poljaci uzimaj Galiciju i Zapadnu Ukrajinu.
Ostatak sa Kijevom ...ne znam, nema kud nego u Rusiju za Novorusijom.
Mozda neke sitne.komadice uzmu Madjari i Rumunji
Ukrajina kakva je bila do SMO je zavrsila

Čedo, ne preskači događaje...
Ne zaslužuješ moj ikakav komentar, ali ga pišem zbog mlađih, koji možda i ne znaju kako je sve počelo.



https://www.dw.com/hr/rusija-i-ukrajina-povijest-jednog-dugog-sukoba/a-60210243

Koliko je glupo i besmisleno racunanje GDP per capita po nominalnom principu prostim preracunavanjem u dolare
Primjer su ruske place. Kad je kurs Rublja bio 155.5 za dolar, prosjecna placa od 66757 Rubalja je bila 430 dolara
Sad na trenutnu placu je placa 1160 Rubalja za dolar
A promijenilo se nije nista kad je osnovna prosjecna placa u pitanju od 66757 Rubalja
Jedino je mjerodavno racunanje po kupovnoj moci...sve drugo je glupost.