Re: Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu

by Eroo 5/5/2022, 00:25

Za početak u Belogorod. Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu - Page 34 1f602

by crvenkasti 5/5/2022, 00:26

Noor wrote:
AlfaOmega wrote:Što se pro-ukri malo ne hvalite kak je po prvi puta uništen ruski najnapredniji operativni tenk T-90M? Ono, relikt oklop za kurac i to?
aj, supir...hvila Alf

Sva su ti slova pomiješala.

by Guest 5/5/2022, 00:28

Posade ocito da nisu istrenirane za ovo. Ima primjera kada netko reagira dobro. Recimo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRcmJTAouM

Ovdje na 0:52 je jedini put u citavom ratu da sam vidio neku rusku posadu da je reagirala dobro i to jedan tenk na vrhu snimka koji se nije uspanicario nego je skrenuo sa ceste i krenuo gadjati polozaj protivnika....sve drugo...opca panika i bjezanija....transporteri gaze preko svojih, jedan tenk gori,drugi bjezi...oni gore svi stali. Boze sacuvaj.

Ovdje se ipak radi i o samom tenku. Jednostavno citava serija tenkova T72 i kasnijih modela je zasnovana na istome zajebu. Da ne govorimo o tome koliko puta im jebeni autoloader zaštopa (ovo nisam ja iz prsta isisao to sami govore)....imtaa tu faktora vagon. Od korupcije,nebrige, neujednacenog rasporeda modernijih modela.

Najvise je do toga da se susrecu s protuoklopnim oruzjem koje jednostavno ne mogu prezivjeti sto god naklemerili za sada na njih.

Sto se Izraela tice...tamo su ih navukli u situaciju gdje je po 10-12 lansera gadjalo isti tenk. I opet su mahom posade prezivjele. Razlika jebiga. Rusi koriste masovno stare modele jer nemaju para niti vide neku potrebu u štancanju modernijih vozila....i dogadja im se ovo što im se dogadja.

Na zapadu svaki vod pješački ima pun kiki sada protuoklopnog naoružanja. Dobro opremljeno pješaštvo koje radi zasjedu koloni koja nastupa u maltene paradnoj situaciji....to nema budućnosti. Pješaštvo im je najveći problem u ratu, uvjerljivo. Zato se i oslanjaju na ove divljake iz raznih vukojebina da ginu radije nego gradska čeljad.

by Guest 5/5/2022, 00:29

Eroo wrote:

Za početak u Belogorod.

Za pocetak Herson....Herson i nista drugo. Herson je kljuc rata....oslobode Herson ostalo se rusi sve ko kula od karata.

by Noor 5/5/2022, 00:32

crvenkasti wrote:
Noor wrote:
AlfaOmega wrote:Što se pro-ukri malo ne hvalite kak je po prvi puta uništen ruski najnapredniji operativni tenk T-90M? Ono, relikt oklop za kurac i to?
aj, supir...hvila Alf

Sva su ti slova pomiješala.

nisu, pisem Alfovim jizikom da me bolje razimi

by AlfaOmega 5/5/2022, 00:32

Noor wrote:
AlfaOmega wrote:Što se pro-ukri malo ne hvalite kak je po prvi puta uništen ruski najnapredniji operativni tenk T-90M? Ono, relikt oklop za kurac i to?
aj, supir...hvila Alf

ceo bre svet bude uživao jbt

by Noor 5/5/2022, 00:34

AlfaOmega wrote:
Noor wrote:
AlfaOmega wrote:Što se pro-ukri malo ne hvalite kak je po prvi puta uništen ruski najnapredniji operativni tenk T-90M? Ono, relikt oklop za kurac i to?
aj, supir...hvila Alf
ceo bre svet bude uživao jbt

bolje ti ide ova ekavica nego ona izsilovana, preželučena ikavica

by AlfaOmega 5/5/2022, 00:38

Noor wrote:
AlfaOmega wrote:
Noor wrote:
AlfaOmega wrote:Što se pro-ukri malo ne hvalite kak je po prvi puta uništen ruski najnapredniji operativni tenk T-90M? Ono, relikt oklop za kurac i to?
aj, supir...hvila Alf
ceo bre svet bude uživao jbt
bolje ti ide ova ekavica nego ona izsilovana, preželučena ikavica

Kak god bitno je uspostavit jezik

by Guest 5/5/2022, 00:40

Eh odoh lagano....sedativ,pa drkica pa spavanac.

Noć omladino

by Guest 5/5/2022, 00:43

Eroo wrote:
MDMiridije wrote:
https://twitter.com/Ukraine_AF/status/1521935580518563841

Izvadiše kurvu na obalu!
Unaprijeđen u podmornicu kao i "Moskva".

https://twitter.com/UkrWarReport/status/1521960429513285635

Malo limariju istuć....svjećice zamijeniti, tapicir....ko novi

by melkior 5/5/2022, 00:53

Rusi najavljuju trodnevno primirje u Mariupolu radi izvlačenja civila iz Azovstala, nakon što je Zelenski kmečao UN-u. Očito je da s ovakvom politikom Rusi nikad neće osvojiti Azovstal niti Mariupol. Umjesto da ih porokaju bez milosti, oni im daju zraka da se regeneriraju i opskrbe oružjem, hranom i municijom. Ne znam više koje je to izvlačenje civila po redu, ali očito je da politika upravlja vojnom operacijom u Ukrajini, a to znači da je ruska vojska unaprijed osuđena na propast. Zahvalnost svijeta zbog ukazane humanosti ionako neće imati, samo će si dodatno umanjiti šanse da vojsku iz Mariupola rasporede u Donbas ili u Kherson. Ruska vojska je do sada pokazala nevjerojatne strateške, taktičke i operativne promašaje i propuste, i nema im spasa. Nek idu u pičku materinu drljavu, nesposobnu i retardiranu skupa s onim debilom u Kremlju koji bi malo piškio malo kakio. Takvu razinu amaterizma i profesionalnog voluntarizma Ameri si ne bi nikad dopustili.

by melkior 5/5/2022, 00:56

melkior wrote:Rusi najavljuju trodnevno primirje u Mariupolu radi izvlačenja civila iz Azovstala, nakon što je Zelenski kmečao UN-u. Očito je da s ovakvom politikom Rusi nikad neće osvojiti Azovstal niti Mariupol. Umjesto da ih porokaju bez milosti, oni im daju zraka da se regeneriraju i opskrbe oružjem, hranom i municijom. Ne znam više koje je to izvlačenje civila po redu, ali očito je da politika upravlja vojnom operacijom u Ukrajini, a to znači da je ruska vojska unaprijed osuđena na propast. Zahvalnost svijeta zbog ukazane humanosti ionako neće imati, samo će si dodatno umanjiti šanse da vojsku iz Mariupola rasporede u Donbas ili u Kherson. Ruska vojska je do sada pokazala nevjerojatne strateške, taktičke i operativne promašaje i propuste, i nema im spasa. Nek idu u pičku materinu drljavu, nesposobnu i retardiranu skupa s onim debilom u Kremlju koji bi malo piškio malo kakio. Takvu razinu amaterizma i profesionalnog voluntarizma Ameri si ne bi nikad dopustili.

Debilima nije problem rokati bez ikakve selekcije stambene zgrade u Harkivu, ali odjednom im je strahovito važno izvlačenje civila iz Azovstala, između ostalih, čak 60-80 djece. Pa kako je moguće da se djeca prva ne izvlače van iz te proklete čeličane, a humanitarni koridori za izvlačenje civila prekidaju vojne akcije već danima!?

by melkior 5/5/2022, 01:02

Uostalom, ta budala u Kremlju je već 10 puta mogla ubit Zelenskog u posljednjih mjesec dana, al on cucla kitu onom degeneriku Kirilu i pokušava ne naljutit Macrona. Ma nek ide u pičku materinu KGB-ovsku. Uostalom, hrpa tih KGB-ovih špijuna je uvijek igralo dvostruku igru, bili su dvostruki agenti, za razliku od zapadnjaka, koje nisi mogao kupiti ni za kurve ni za bijelo. I zato je Amerika svjetska sila, a Rusija pičkin dim s energentima. Da nemaju energente i nuklearne rakete, bili bi Burkina Faso.

by **Hektorović** 5/5/2022, 02:54

Dobra analiza New York Timesa

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-nato.html

Russia’s War Has Been Brutal, but Putin Has Shown Some Restraint. Why?

Western officials are debating the Kremlin’s calculations in not trying harder to halt weapons shipments in Ukraine. Analysts wonder whether a bigger mobilization by Moscow is on the horizon.

May 3, 2022

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A rescue worker on an upper floor of an apartment building hit by a Russian missile strike in central Kyiv, Ukraine, on Friday.David Guttenfelder for The New York Times

Russia’s war against Ukraine has leveled cities, killed tens of thousands of people and forced millions of others from their homes.
But quietly, some military analysts and Western officials are asking why the onslaught has not been even worse.
Russia could be going after Ukrainian railways, roads and bridges more aggressively to try to stanch the flow of Western weapons to the front line. It could have bombed more of the infrastructure around the capital, Kyiv, to make it harder for Western leaders to visit President Volodymyr Zelensky in shows of unity and resolve. And it could be doing far more to inflict pain on the West, whether by cyberattack, sabotage or more cutoffs of energy exports to Europe.
Part of the reason appears to be sheer incompetence: The opening weeks of the war demonstrated vividly that Russia’s military was far less capable than believed before the invasion. But American and European officials also say that President Vladimir V. Putin’s tactics in recent weeks have appeared to be remarkably cautious, marked by a slow-moving offensive in eastern Ukraine, a restrained approach to taking out Ukrainian infrastructure and an avoidance of actions that could escalate the conflict with NATO.

The apparent restraint on the ground stands in contrast to the bombast on Russian state television, where Moscow is described as being locked in an existential fight against the West and where the use of nuclear weapons is openly discussed. The issue is whether, as the war grinds on, Mr. Putin will change tack and intensify the war.
That is a particularly urgent question ahead of the Victory Day holiday in Russia next Monday, when Mr. Putin traditionally presides over a grandiose parade marking the Soviet triumph over Nazi Germany and gives a militaristic speech. Ben Wallace, the British defense secretary, predicted last week that Mr. Putin would use the speech for an official declaration of war and a mass mobilization of the Russian people.
American and European officials say that they have not seen any on-the-ground movements that would show any much larger push with additional troops beginning on May 9 or soon after. Those officials now expect a slower, grinding campaign inside Ukraine. But they do not disagree that Mr. Putin could use the speech to declare a wider war and a deeper national effort to fight it.
For the moment, Mr. Putin appears to be in a military holding pattern, one that is allowing Ukraine to regroup and stock up on Western weaponry. On Monday, a senior Pentagon official called Russia’s latest offensive in eastern Ukraine “very cautious, very tepid.” In Russia, there is grumbling that the military is fighting with one hand tied behind its back, with the strategy and aims not understood by the public.

A photograph from Russian state-owned media showing President Vladimir V. Putin leading a meeting with advisers via video conference at the Kremlin on Friday.Pool photo by Mikhail Klimentyev

“This is a strange, special kind of war,” Dmitri Trenin, until recently the director of the Carnegie Moscow Center think tank, said in a phone interview from outside Moscow. “Russia has set some rather strict limits for itself, and this is not being explained in any way — which raises a lot of questions, first of all, among Russian citizens.”

Mr. Trenin is one of the few analysts from his think tank, shuttered last month by the Russian government, who chose to stay in Russia after the war began. He said that he was struggling to explain why the Kremlin was fighting at “less than half strength.”
Why isn’t Russia bombing more bridges and railway networks, he asked, when they are allowing Ukraine’s military to receive more of the West’s increasingly lethal weapons deliveries with every passing day? Why are Western leaders — like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Sunday — still able to visit Kyiv safely?
“I find this strange, and I can’t explain it,” Mr. Trenin said.
To be sure, Russian missile strikes have targeted infrastructure across Ukraine, including an important bridge in the country’s southwest on Monday and the runway of the Odesa airport on Saturday. But across the Atlantic, officials and analysts are asking themselves similar questions as Mr. Trenin.
For weeks, officials in Washington have discussed why the Russian military has not been more aggressive in trying to destroy the supply lines that send Western arms shipments into Ukraine. Part of the answer, officials say, is that Ukrainian air defense continues to threaten Russian aircraft, and the deeper Russian planes go into Ukraine the greater the chance they are going to be shot down.
Russia has also struggled with its precision munitions — missiles or rockets with guidance systems. Many of those weapons have failed to work properly, and Russian supplies of the weapons are limited. Strikes on rail lines or moving convoys must be very precise to be effective.

Repairing damaged train lines in Bucha, Ukraine, on Sunday. Russia has struggled with its precision munitions — missiles or rockets with guidance systems. Many of those weapons have failed to work properly.Daniel Berehulak for The New York Times

Other officials have argued that Moscow is eager to avoid destroying Ukraine’s infrastructure too severely, in the possibly misguided hope that it can still take control of the country. Russia would be stuck with a huge rebuilding job if it took over cities devastated by its own bombing.
A senior American defense official said that Mr. Putin may have avoided destroying Ukraine’s rail network because he did not want to hurt his own ability to move equipment and troops around the country. The Russians have been more focused on destroying weapon storage areas than the rail network.
American officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private military and intelligence assessments.
Then there is the question of why Russia hasn’t hit back harder against the West. The Kremlin narrative is of an existential war with NATO being fought on Ukrainian soil, but Russia is the one taking military losses while the West keeps a safe distance and supplies weapons that kill Russian soldiers.
“A lot of people in this town are asking why they haven’t retaliated yet,” said Samuel Charap, a former U.S. State Department official in Washington and a Russia analyst with the RAND Corporation. “It seems low probability that the U.S. and its allies will experience no blowback from having put this many Russian soldiers in their graves.”
Russia has the tools to do widespread damage to the West. The gas shortages caused by the cyberattack on the Colonial Pipeline last year showed the disruption that Russian hacking can inflict on American infrastructure. Berlin has warned that a cutoff of Russian gas could throw the German economy into a recession.
And then there is Moscow’s world-leading nuclear arsenal, with an estimated5,977 warheads: Their catastrophic capability is being hyped in ever-shriller terms in the Russian media.

“You thought you could destroy us with other people’s hands and observe from the sidelines from a safe distance?” Sergei Mironov, an outspoken hawk in Russia’s Parliament, said on Saturday, claiming that his country’s new intercontinental ballistic missile could destroy Britain in a single strike. “It won’t work, gentlemen — you’ll have to pay for it all in full!” he added.

A photograph released by Roscosmos, the Russian space agency, purporting to show an intercontinental ballistic missile being launched in northwestern Russia last month.Roscosmos Space Agency Press Service, via Associated Press

Mr. Putin has also warned of retaliation, but he values ambiguity, too. Last year, he said that those crossing a “red line” would face an “asymmetric, fast and tough” response — an indication that the response would come at a time and place of Moscow’s choosing.

by **Hektorović** 5/5/2022, 02:58

“Nobody really knows where the red line is,” Mr. Charap, the analyst, said. “I don’t even think the Russians know, because we are in such uncharted waters.”
American and allied officials have debated why Mr. Putin hasn’t tried widespread or more damaging cyberstrikes. Some say that Mr. Putin has been effectively deterred. The Russian military, struggling to make gains in Ukraine, cannot handle a wider war with NATO and does not want to give the alliance any excuse to enter the war more directly.
Others argue that a cyberstrike on a NATO country is one of the few cards Mr. Putin can play and that he may be waiting for a later stage in his campaign to do that.
While Mr. Putin has been unafraid of escalating the rhetoric, his actions have suggested he does not want to do anything that could prompt a wider war.
“The general sense is that he wants to snatch some sort of victory out of this debacle of his,” said the American defense official, suggesting that Mr. Putin was not interested in “borrowing more trouble.”
Before the invasion on Feb. 24, Mr. Trenin, of the Carnegie center, predicted that the Ukrainian military would put up a fierce resistance and that Mr. Putin would discover a lack of political support for Russia in Ukraine. On that, Mr. Trenin turned out to be right.
What he was wrong about, Mr. Trenin said, was the information that aides and commanders would provide to Mr. Putin about Russia’s capabilities, which turned out to be flawed.
Mr. Trenin says he still sees Mr. Putin as fundamentally rational, rather than someone willing to engage in a nuclear war, with a “maniacal determination to destroy mankind.”
“That would not be a mistake — that would be a total departure from rationality,” Mr. Trenin said. “I hope that now I am not wrong.”

by Eroo 5/5/2022, 03:30

MDMiridije wrote:
Eroo wrote:
MDMiridije wrote:
https://twitter.com/Ukraine_AF/status/1521935580518563841

Izvadiše kurvu na obalu!
Unaprijeđen u podmornicu kao i "Moskva".

https://twitter.com/UkrWarReport/status/1521960429513285635

Malo limariju istuć....svjećice zamijeniti, tapicir....ko novi

Jbte, ništa dirat, sad mi izgleda ko KA-52. :^0

by Eroo 5/5/2022, 03:32

MDMiridije wrote:
Eroo wrote:

Za početak u Belogorod.

Za pocetak Herson....Herson i nista drugo. Herson je kljuc rata....oslobode Herson ostalo se rusi sve ko kula od karata.

Svakom po 6 kom, jel može 'vako? jocolor

by Ringo10 5/5/2022, 05:03

Ovo je samo formalno rat Rusije i Ukrajine
Ovo je rat izmedju Rusije pa I Kine protiv globalisticke neoliberalne tiranije
I zato Rusija jednostavno NE SMIJE IZGUBITI OVAJ RAT PROTIV GLOBALISTICKOG ZLA.
Jer ako izgubi, cijeli svijet, svi cemo postati robovi Novoga Kolonijalizma.
I EU I NATO su samo primamljivi nazivi za Novu Kolonizaciju i porobljivanje, otimacinu slobode i suvereniteta.
Zato Rusija NE SMIJE IZGUBITI.

by Noor 5/5/2022, 07:29

Ringo10 wrote:Ovo je samo formalno rat Rusije i Ukrajine
Ovo je rat izmedju Rusije pa I Kine protiv globalisticke neoliberalne tiranije
I zato Rusija jednostavno NE SMIJE IZGUBITI OVAJ RAT PROTIV GLOBALISTICKOG ZLA.
Jer ako izgubi, cijeli svijet, svi cemo postati robovi Novoga Kolonijalizma.
I EU I NATO su samo primamljivi nazivi za Novu Kolonizaciju i porobljivanje, otimacinu slobode i suvereniteta.
Zato Rusija NE SMIJE IZGUBITI.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1521802979619311618?t=9-AQmULbTOnmOlyKsqpYjw&s=19

by Ringo10 5/5/2022, 07:32

Sta taj Shakhnazarov prica nebitno je jer on je sam filmski redatelj i ne odlucuje ni o cemu.
Ja sam rekao ISTINU.

by Noor 5/5/2022, 07:38

evo i za one s prirodnim imunitetom, koji vjeruju yt, a ne twitteru

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