Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
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Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
China recalls its ambassador to Lithuania
China has recalled their Lithuanian ambassador because of Lithuania’s decision to establish a diplomatic office in Taiwan.
The Chinese Embassy in Vilnius, Lithuania | Valda Kalnina/EPA-EFE
BY STUART LAU
August 10, 2021 10:06 am
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China recalled its ambassador to Lithuania on Tuesday, in response to Vilnius' move to set up a new diplomatic office in Taiwan.
Beijing is also demanding Lithuania recall its top envoy from China, according to a spokesperson of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, state media Xinhua reported.
"China solemnly declares to the world that there is only one China in the world, and the government of the People's Republic of China is the sole legal government representing the whole of China," the spokesperson said.
The escalation over Lithuania's trade office in Taipei comes hot on the heels of another diplomatic tussle between Vilnius and Beijing. Lithuania has also quit China’s “17+1” platform for dealing with Central and Eastern European countries, and has criticized Beijing for causing disunity among EU countries.
Lithuania said China’s decision was “disappointing," with Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis telling Reuters: “We are considering our next moves." He added: “Obviously we got the message but we stated our own message as well, that Lithuania will continue with its policy because it is not only Lithuania’s policy we are pursuing, it is also the policy of many European countries.”
Noting this is the first time Beijing reacted this way to member countries’ offices in Taiwan, EU foreign affairs spokeswoman Nabila Massrali said: “We regret the Chinese action, and are following developments closely … We do not regard the opening of a representative office in or from Taiwan (as opposed to an embassy or consulate) as a breach of the EU’s One China policy.” She also warned about impact on overall EU-China relations.
Washington also weighed in to support Lithuania. "We stand with our ally Lithuania and condemn the People's Republic of China's recent retaliatory actions," said U.S. State Department spokesman Ned Price. "The U.S. supports our European partners as they develop ties with Taiwan."[/size]
China has recalled their Lithuanian ambassador because of Lithuania’s decision to establish a diplomatic office in Taiwan.
The Chinese Embassy in Vilnius, Lithuania | Valda Kalnina/EPA-EFE
BY STUART LAU
August 10, 2021 10:06 am
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China recalled its ambassador to Lithuania on Tuesday, in response to Vilnius' move to set up a new diplomatic office in Taiwan.
Beijing is also demanding Lithuania recall its top envoy from China, according to a spokesperson of the Chinese Foreign Ministry, state media Xinhua reported.
"China solemnly declares to the world that there is only one China in the world, and the government of the People's Republic of China is the sole legal government representing the whole of China," the spokesperson said.
The escalation over Lithuania's trade office in Taipei comes hot on the heels of another diplomatic tussle between Vilnius and Beijing. Lithuania has also quit China’s “17+1” platform for dealing with Central and Eastern European countries, and has criticized Beijing for causing disunity among EU countries.
Lithuania said China’s decision was “disappointing," with Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis telling Reuters: “We are considering our next moves." He added: “Obviously we got the message but we stated our own message as well, that Lithuania will continue with its policy because it is not only Lithuania’s policy we are pursuing, it is also the policy of many European countries.”
Noting this is the first time Beijing reacted this way to member countries’ offices in Taiwan, EU foreign affairs spokeswoman Nabila Massrali said: “We regret the Chinese action, and are following developments closely … We do not regard the opening of a representative office in or from Taiwan (as opposed to an embassy or consulate) as a breach of the EU’s One China policy.” She also warned about impact on overall EU-China relations.
Washington also weighed in to support Lithuania. "We stand with our ally Lithuania and condemn the People's Republic of China's recent retaliatory actions," said U.S. State Department spokesman Ned Price. "The U.S. supports our European partners as they develop ties with Taiwan."[/size]
Hektorović- Posts : 26373
2018-04-10
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Ljute se Kinezi. Njihovo saopćenje na hrvatskom jeziku :
http://croatian.cri.cn/vijesti/3742/20210812/694943.html
http://croatian.cri.cn/vijesti/3742/20210812/694943.html
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Litva je dužna Amerima i mora slušati.
Znači, od njih je krenulo.
I Kosovo i Hrvatska će vrlo brzo morati priznati Tajvan.
Znači, od njih je krenulo.
I Kosovo i Hrvatska će vrlo brzo morati priznati Tajvan.
crvenkasti-
Posts : 29696
2014-04-17
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
litva nije dužna nikome , ima javni dug cca 36% BDPa, među najmanje zaduženim državama svijeta.. hrvatska, njemačka, USA i većina zaapdnih zemalja ima preko ili oko 100% BDPa, Srbija 55%(što je dobro realno) tako da ne moraš voditi brigu oko litve.. usput izlaskom iz SSSRa postigli su jedan od najvećih standarda u istočnoj europi...crvenkasti wrote:Litva je dužna Amerima i mora slušati.
Znači, od njih je krenulo.
I Kosovo i Hrvatska će vrlo brzo morati priznati Tajvan.
AssadNaPodmornici- Posts : 22258
2018-06-14
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Brige nas i za Litvu i za Tajvan. Gledaj svoja posla.
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Litva i ostale dvije balticke drzavice zive od velikih dotacija iz EU. EU ih izdrzavaAssadNaPodmornici wrote:litva nije dužna nikome , ima javni dug cca 36% BDPa, među najmanje zaduženim državama svijeta.. hrvatska, njemačka, USA i većina zaapdnih zemalja ima preko ili oko 100% BDPa, Srbija 55%(što je dobro realno) tako da ne moraš voditi brigu oko litve.. usput izlaskom iz SSSRa postigli su jedan od najvećih standarda u istočnoj europi...crvenkasti wrote:Litva je dužna Amerima i mora slušati.
Znači, od njih je krenulo.
I Kosovo i Hrvatska će vrlo brzo morati priznati Tajvan.
Nagrada za radikalno antirusku politiku...a sad evo i antikinesku
Inace bi im standard bio goli kurac. Bili bi ko Moldavija
Ringo10- Posts : 21667
2015-09-24
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
RayMabus wrote:Ljute se Kinezi. Njihovo saopćenje na hrvatskom jeziku :
http://croatian.cri.cn/vijesti/3742/20210812/694943.html
Ovo je žešće nego i od Rusa...
Litva prekršila crvenu liniju Kine i mora odmah ispraviti greške
Imajući u vidu da je Litva prekršila duh Priopćenja o uspostavi diplomatskih odnosa dviju zemalja, dozvoljavajući Tajvanu da postavi tzv. „predstavništvo“ imena „Tajvan“, kineska strana je 10. kolovoza proglasila povlačenje veleposlanika u Litvi, i zamolila da i litvanska Vlada povuče svog veleposlanika u Kini. Kina je rijetkom diplomatskom mjerom poslala jasnu poruku: bez obzira tko krši crvenu liniju Kine za zaštitu suvereniteta i integriteta teritorija, sigurno će se naići s odlučnim protunapadom.
Zemlja na obali Baltičkog mora, Litva, ima manje od 3 milijuna stanovnika i površinu od 60 kvadratnih kilometara. Nekad je bila član Sovjetskog saveza, a nakon povlačenja iz SSSR-a se u 2004. godini učlanila u NATO i EU. Tijekom ove godine, Litva je više puta imala kontakte s tajvanskim vlastima i neprestano je provocirala protukineskim djelovanjem. U srpnju, litvanska strana je dopustila tajvanskim vlastima da u Vilniusu, glavnom gradu Litve postave tzv. „predstavništvo. Kršeći krajnju liniju da ne smije „službene kontakte“ s Tajvanom, javno je ugrozila princip jedne Kine koji priznaje međunarodna zajednica, čime je teško povrijedila državni suverenitet i integritet teritorija Kine.
Nakon toga, kineska strana je poduzela rijetku diplomatsku mjeru u svojoj povijesti za povlačenje veleposlanika, koja predstavlja neophodan i pravedan korak za zaštitu suštinskih interesa države, a također i ozbiljno upozorenje Litvi i drugim zemljama sa sličnim zlim namjerama. Kako su prokomentirali mediji, to djelovanje je pokazalo „ogorčenje“ kineske strane.
Zapravo, očito je da Litva, zemlja koja je veoma ovisna o SAD-u u pitanju sigurnosti, otkako je nastupila na vlast sadašnja američka administracija, stalno igrala „as Tajvana“, samo kako bi laskala i zadovoljavala američku stranu, i da povećava svoj status u američkoj strategiji o Kini, a sve zato da SAD uvaži potrebe Litve. No, ta baltička zemlja je precijenila svoju važnost. S obzirom na to da je Indo-pacifička regija pravo težište američke strategije, Litva je jedva šahovska figura u američkom angažmanu, a kamo li da igra neku važnu ulogu. Bez obzira na koje načine će Litva pokušati činiti probleme, to neće imati nikakav utjecaj, samo će gubiti svoje interese. U cijeloj priči su litvanski političari pokazali koliko su kratkovidni.
U ovom trenutku za Litvu je najvažnije da jasno razumije poruku kineske strane koja je povukla veleposlanika, i da shvati kako je princip jedne Kine politička osnova bilateralnih odnosa između Kine i drugih zemalja. Nepokolebljiva je odlučnost kineske Vlade i naroda za realizaciju ujedinjenje države, i ne dozvoljava se kršenje crvene linije za zaštitu suvereniteta i integriteta teritorija.
Također, litvanska strana treba duboko razumjeti da nije lako da „pametno“ profitira koristeći nesuglasice između velikih država, jer vrlo je moguće da će privući vatru na sebe. Litvanska Vlada treba odmah ispraviti pogrešnu odluku, poduzeti praktične mjere da otkloni negativan utjecaj tog događaja, i bolje da ne nastavi pogrešnim putem. Ujedinjenje dviju obala Tajvanskog tjesnaca je trend povijesnog razvoja koji nitko, i nikakva snaga ne mogu zaustaviti.
Hektorović- Posts : 26373
2018-04-10
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Oštri su Kinezi. Jes vidija ti to. Opleli po njima žestoko.
Ja znam zašto je Litva nadrkana na njih. Oni su s Lukašenkom odlični a Litva i Lukašenko su na ratnoj nozi i onda ovi njima vraćaju priko Tajvana itd.
Ajde bježi. O svom poslu.
Ja znam zašto je Litva nadrkana na njih. Oni su s Lukašenkom odlični a Litva i Lukašenko su na ratnoj nozi i onda ovi njima vraćaju priko Tajvana itd.
Ajde bježi. O svom poslu.
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Kina pomaže Lukašenku a Kina i Litva ionako nemaju nikakve ekonomske odnose tako da Litvu boli kurac i dala je pedalu Kini.
https://www.tportal.hr/vijesti/clanak/litva-napusta-skupinu-17-1-zbog-pogorsanja-odnosa-eu-a-i-kine-20210522
https://www.tportal.hr/vijesti/clanak/litva-napusta-skupinu-17-1-zbog-pogorsanja-odnosa-eu-a-i-kine-20210522
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Evo zvanične novine Kineske partije traže udruživanje sa Rusijom i Bjelorusijom kako bi se Litvu kaznilo
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1231251.shtml
China, Russia can cooperate to punish Lithuania: Global Times editorial
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1231251.shtml
China, Russia can cooperate to punish Lithuania: Global Times editorial
Hektorović- Posts : 26373
2018-04-10
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
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China, Russia can cooperate to punish Lithuania: Global Times editorial
By Global Times
Published: Aug 11, 2021 10:15 PM
View of Vilnius, capital of Lithuania Photo: VCG
View of Vilnius, capital of Lithuania Photo: VCG
After China announced the recall of its ambassador to Lithuania and demanded the country withdraw its top envoy from China, US Department of State spokesperson Ned Price condemned China's "retaliatory actions" at Tuesday's press briefing. He said, "We stand in solidarity with out NATO ally Lithuania… Each country should be able to determine the contours of its own 'one China' policy without outside coercion."
Nabila Massrali, the European Union's spokesperson for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, also made statement favoring Lithuania on Tuesday, expressing regret over China's move. Her remarks were much milder than Price's.
It was totally unsurprising to see the US stand with Lithuania. This European country has nearly nothing to do with the island of Taiwan. The reason it has been provoking China over the Taiwan question is to cater to the US. The screenplay of Lithuania was even one that had been played by Washington.
However, Lithuania has gone too far and touched the most sensitive hotspot in East Asia. It may not even know what it has been doing. The Taiwan question is the most salient geopolitical redline in the entire western Pacific. It is about China's core interests - China will never sit idly by if a country tries to touch on this redline.
Even the old hands in dealing with China such as the US and Japan adopt the "salami-slicing" tactic with great caution and dare not go too far at one time. The US has not allowed the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the US to change name. Supporting Lithuania to allow Taiwan authorities to establish an office under the name of "Taiwan" is a detour that aims at avoiding conflicts intensifying quickly.
That Lithuania allows Taiwan authorities to establish an office under the name of "Taiwan" is an extremely reckless behavior that will shake China-Lithuania ties. With only a population of less than three million, it is the most anti-Russia country in Europe. Perhaps it has become used to a provocative foreign policy and turned its anti-Russia impulse to China, a country that has never had conflicts with it. Its ignorance is startling.
China must take strong countermeasures against Lithuania. If Lithuania persists, China must be prepared for a breakdown in ties. In addition, China should join hands with Russia and Belarus, the two countries that border Lithuania, and punish it. China and Russia are necessary to jointly deal a heavy blow to one or two running dogs of the US to warn other countries. China should not allow a few US allies to provoke China and Russia by breaking the bottom line of the principle of international relations.
The China-Russia strategic partnership should show its deterrence to US allies, preventing them from doing anything they want against China and Russia simply with US support. China and Russia should take proper opportunities to strike against a country that has lost its mind. This should be the new content and guidance for China-Russia strategic cooperation.
Lithuania, one of the countries that has gone the farthest in simultaneously provoking China and Russia, should be one that needs to be taught a lesson by the two.
China should clarify in its counterattack against Lithuania that the Taiwan question is the redline that should never be crossed, and that China will not allow Lithuania to become an example for other countries to follow. Some European countries must not think about using the Taiwan question as leverage against China. The Taiwan question cannot be used as a bargaining chip. It is a high voltage line, even a watershed between peace and war.
As the US started a new round of provocations over the island of Taiwan, China's cost to deal with this question will increase accordingly. This has prompted China to think about whether it should accelerate the progress to solve the Taiwan question for good, completely eliminating the possibility of some US pawns using Taiwan as a bargaining chip. Such a strategic consideration is becoming increasingly urgent for China.
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Kina i Rusija mogu surađivati kako bi kaznile Litvu: uvodnik Global Timesa
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Pogled na Vilnius, glavni grad Litve Foto: VCG
Pogled na Vilnius, glavni grad Litve Foto: VCG
Nakon što je Kina najavila opoziv svog veleposlanika u Litvi i zatražila od zemlje da povuče svog glavnog izaslanika iz Kine, glasnogovornik američkog State Departmenta Ned Price osudio je kineske "odmazde" na brifingu za novinare u utorak. Rekao je: "Solidarni smo s saveznicom iz NATO -a Litvom ... Svaka bi zemlja trebala moći odrediti konture vlastite politike" jedne Kine "bez vanjske prisile."
Nabila Massrali, glasnogovornica Europske unije za vanjske poslove i sigurnosnu politiku, također je u utorak dala izjavu u korist Litve izražavajući žaljenje zbog kineskog poteza. Njezine su primjedbe bile mnogo blaže od Priceovih.
Nije bilo nimalo iznenađujuće vidjeti SAD kako stoji uz Litvu. Ova europska država nema gotovo nikakve veze s otokom Tajvanom. Razlog zašto je izazvao Kinu zbog tajvanskog pitanja jest pružanje usluga SAD -u. Scenarij Litve čak je odigrao Washington.
Međutim, Litva je otišla predaleko i dotakla najosjetljivije žarište u istočnoj Aziji. Možda čak ni ne zna što je radio. Tajvansko pitanje najistaknutija je geopolitička crta u čitavom zapadnom Pacifiku. Riječ je o ključnim interesima Kine - Kina nikada neće sjediti skrštenih ruku ako neka zemlja pokuša dodirnuti ovu crvenu liniju.
Čak i stare ruke u odnosima s Kinom, poput SAD-a i Japana, s velikim oprezom usvajaju taktiku "rezanja salame" i ne usuđuju se odjednom otići predaleko. SAD nisu dopustile Tajpejskom gospodarskom i kulturnom predstavništvu u SAD -u promjenu imena. Podrška Litvi u dopuštanju tajvanskim vlastima da osnuju ured pod imenom "Taiwan" zaobilazni je put kojim se nastoji izbjeći brzo intenziviranje sukoba.
To što Litva dopušta tajvanskim vlastima da osnuju ured pod imenom "Taiwan" iznimno je bezobzirno ponašanje koje će uzdrmati veze Kine i Litve. Sa samo tri milijuna stanovnika, najprotivruska je zemlja u Europi. Možda se navikla na provokativnu vanjsku politiku i svoj antiruski impuls okrenula Kini, zemlji koja s njom nikada nije imala sukoba. Njegovo neznanje je zapanjujuće.
Kina mora poduzeti snažne protumjere protiv Litve. Ako Litva ustraje, Kina mora biti spremna za prekid veza. Osim toga, Kina bi se trebala pridružiti Rusiji i Bjelorusiji, dvjema zemljama koje graniče s Litvom, i kazniti je. Kina i Rusija neophodne su da zajedno zadaju težak udarac jednom ili dva trkaća psa iz SAD -a kako bi upozorile druge zemlje. Kina ne bi smjela dopustiti nekolicini američkih saveznika da isprovociraju Kinu i Rusiju kršeći krajnji princip načela međunarodnih odnosa.
Kinesko-rusko strateško partnerstvo trebalo bi pokazati odvraćanje prema američkim saveznicima, sprječavajući ih da učine sve što žele protiv Kine i Rusije jednostavno uz američku potporu. Kina i Rusija trebale bi iskoristiti odgovarajuće prilike da napadnu zemlju koja je izgubila razum. Ovo bi trebao biti novi sadržaj i smjernica za kinesko-rusku stratešku suradnju.
Litva, jedna od zemalja koja je otišla najdalje u istodobnom provociranju Kine i Rusije, trebala bi biti jedna od njih koje trebaju naučiti lekciju.
Kina bi trebala pojasniti u svom protunapadu protiv Litve da je pitanje Tajvana crvena linija koju nikada ne treba prijeći, te da Kina neće dopustiti Litvi da postane primjer za druge zemlje koje slijede. Neke europske zemlje ne smiju razmišljati o korištenju tajvanskog pitanja kao poluge protiv Kine. Tajvansko pitanje ne može se koristiti kao pregovarački akt. To je visokonaponski vod, čak i prekretnica između mira i rata.
Budući da su SAD započele novu rundu provokacija nad otokom Tajvanom, troškovi Kine za rješavanje ovog pitanja u skladu s tim će se povećati. To je potaknulo Kinu na razmišljanje o tome treba li ubrzati napredak u trajnom rješavanju tajvanskog pitanja, potpuno eliminirajući mogućnost da neki američki pijuni koriste Tajvan kao sredstvo pregovaranja. Takvo strateško razmatranje postaje sve hitnije za Kinu.
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Više o frazi OPINION / EDITORIAL China, Russia can cooperate to punish Lithuania: Global Times editorial By Global Times Published: Aug 11, 2021 10:15 PM View of Vilnius, capital of Lithuania Photo: VCG View of Vilnius, capital of Lithuania Photo: VCG After China announced the recall of its ambassador to Lithuania and demanded the country withdraw its top envoy from China, US Department of State spokesperson Ned Price condemned China's "retaliatory actions" at Tuesday's press briefing. He said, "We stand in solidarity with out NATO ally Lithuania… Each country should be able to determine the contours of its own 'one China' policy without outside coercion." Nabila Massrali, the European Union's spokesperson for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, also made statement favoring Lithuania on Tuesday, expressing regret over China's move. Her remarks were much milder than Price's. It was totally unsurprising to see the US stand with Lithuania. This European country has nearly nothing to do with the island of Taiwan. The reason it has been provoking China over the Taiwan question is to cater to the US. The screenplay of Lithuania was even one that had been played by Washington. However, Lithuania has gone too far and touched the most sensitive hotspot in East Asia. It may not even know what it has been doing. The Taiwan question is the most salient geopolitical redline in the entire western Pacific. It is about China's core interests - China will never sit idly by if a country tries to touch on this redline. Even the old hands in dealing with China such as the US and Japan adopt the "salami-slicing" tactic with great caution and dare not go too far at one time. The US has not allowed the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the US to change name. Supporting Lithuania to allow Taiwan authorities to establish an office under the name of "Taiwan" is a detour that aims at avoiding conflicts intensifying quickly. That Lithuania allows Taiwan authorities to establish an office under the name of "Taiwan" is an extremely reckless behavior that will shake China-Lithuania ties. With only a population of less than three million, it is the most anti-Russia country in Europe. Perhaps it has become used to a provocative foreign policy and turned its anti-Russia impulse to China, a country that has never had conflicts with it. Its ignorance is startling. China must take strong countermeasures against Lithuania. If Lithuania persists, China must be prepared for a breakdown in ties. In addition, China should join hands with Russia and Belarus, the two countries that border Lithuania, and punish it. China and Russia are necessary to jointly deal a heavy blow to one or two running dogs of the US to warn other countries. China should not allow a few US allies to provoke China and Russia by breaking the bottom line of the principle of international relations. The China-Russia strategic partnership should show its deterrence to US allies, preventing them from doing anything they want against China and Russia simply with US support. China and Russia should take proper opportunities to strike against a country that has lost its mind. This should be the new content and guidance for China-Russia strategic cooperation. Lithuania, one of the countries that has gone the farthest in simultaneously provoking China and Russia, should be one that needs to be taught a lesson by the two. China should clarify in its counterattack against Lithuania that the Taiwan question is the redline that should never be crossed, and that China will not allow Lithuania to become an example for other countries to follow. Some European countries must not think about using the Taiwan question as leverage against China. The Taiwan question cannot be used as a bargaining chip. It is a high voltage line, even a watershed between peace and war. As the US started a new round of provocations over the island of Taiwan, China's cost to deal with this question will increase accordingly. This has prompted China to think about whether it should accelerate the progress to solve the Taiwan question for good, completely eliminating the possibility of some US pawns using Taiwan as a bargaining chip. Such a strategic consideration is becoming increasingly urgent for China. RELATED ARTICLES China’s response to Lithuania on Taiwan question ‘legitimate, reasonable’ Recalling Chinese envoy to Lithuania a warning on exploiting Taiwan question Lithuania will pay the price for making radical moves on the Taiwan question MOST VIEWED 1 China, Russia can cooperate to punish Lithuania: Global Times editorial 2 Beijing bans foreign textbooks in primary, junior high schools as regulation continues 3 Hyping 'COVID city' a joke, misreads China's zero-case route to serve biased narrative 4 Canadian national Michael Spavor sentenced to 11 years for espionage, ordered to be deported from China 5 Virus probe needs more early samples, countries: scientists 6 PLA Nav
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RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
....godinama slusam prijetnje litvi i baltickim zemljama i nista..jasno je svima svaki oruzani napad na litvu i balticke zemlje znaci i direktno treci svjetski rat..balticke zemlje sigurno nece napast rusiju ili kinu..a stvarno ne znam kako moze kina kazniti litvu?..to sto ce im prestat prodavat svoje mobitele..evo sve ce litavci umrijeti od neizvjesnosti
vuksadinare- Posts : 100240
2015-09-08
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Balticke marionete su kurac na biciklu
Ali im Zapad kao daje na vaznosti radi Rusije pa se jadovi ufurali da su bitni ..u stvari su niko i nista.
Ali im Zapad kao daje na vaznosti radi Rusije pa se jadovi ufurali da su bitni ..u stvari su niko i nista.
Ringo10- Posts : 21667
2015-09-24
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
...kako god..ali frktanje rusije i sad kine ostat ce na frktanju..Ringo10 wrote:Balticke marionete su kurac na biciklu
Ali im Zapad kao daje na vaznosti radija Rusije pa se jadovi ufurali da su bitni ..u stvari su niko i nista.
vuksadinare- Posts : 100240
2015-09-08
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Da ih sad Rusija pregazi Amerika osim sankcija i histericne dernjave ne ni uradila nista.vuksadinare wrote:....godinama slusam prijetnje litvi i baltickim zemljama i nista..jasno je svima svaki oruzani napad na litvu i balticke zemlje znaci i direktno treci svjetski rat..balticke zemlje sigurno nece napast rusiju ili kinu..a stvarno ne znam kako moze kina kazniti litvu?..to sto ce im prestat prodavat svoje mobitele..evo sve ce litavci umrijeti od neizvjesnosti
Amerika bi usla u nuklearni rat samo radi dvije drzave, Izraela i mozda Britanije.
Ringo10- Posts : 21667
2015-09-24
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Ma ko frkce...Rusija uopce ne obraca paznju na te jadovevuksadinare wrote:...kako god..ali frktanje rusije i sad kine ostat ce na frktanju..Ringo10 wrote:Balticke marionete su kurac na biciklu
Ali im Zapad kao daje na vaznosti radija Rusije pa se jadovi ufurali da su bitni ..u stvari su niko i nista.
Ringo10- Posts : 21667
2015-09-24
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Rusija uopće nije strana u sukobu. Litva je članica EU a Rusija s istom trguje pa će se Putin držati po strani. Vjerojatno će napraviti neku uslugicu Kini povodom Litve al ne previše al dovoljno da zadovolji kinesku stranu.
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Varas se...balticke zemlje imaju za amere daleko veci strateski znacaj nego ukrajina..plus clanice su eu i nato-a za razliku od ukrajineRingo10 wrote:Da ih sad Rusija pregazi Amerika osim sankcija i histerične dernjave ne ni uradila ništa.vuksadinare wrote:.... godinama slusam prijetnje litvi i baltičkim zemljama i nista..jasno je svima svaki oružani napad na litvu i baltičke zemlje znaci i direktno treći svjetski rat..baltičke zemlje sigurno nece napast rusiju ili kinu..a stvarno ne znam kako mogu kina kazniti litvu? .. to sto ce im prestat prodavati svoje mobitele..evo sve ce litavci umrijeti od neizvjesnosti
Amerika bi usla u nuklearni rat samo radi dvije države, Izraela i mozda Britanije.
vuksadinare- Posts : 100240
2015-09-08
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
vuksadinare wrote:Varas se...balticke zemlje imaju za amere daleko veci strateski znacaj nego ukrajina..plus clanice su eu i nato-a za razliku od ukrajineRingo10 wrote:Da ih sad Rusija pregazi Amerika osim sankcija i histerične dernjave ne ni uradila ništa.vuksadinare wrote:.... godinama slusam prijetnje litvi i baltičkim zemljama i nista..jasno je svima svaki oružani napad na litvu i baltičke zemlje znaci i direktno treći svjetski rat..baltičke zemlje sigurno nece napast rusiju ili kinu..a stvarno ne znam kako mogu kina kazniti litvu? .. to sto ce im prestat prodavati svoje mobitele..evo sve ce litavci umrijeti od neizvjesnosti
Amerika bi usla u nuklearni rat samo radi dvije države, Izraela i mozda Britanije.
I eurozone , zbog čega bi Njemačka i Francuska reagirale odma jer im napadaš valutu.
RayMabus- Posts : 184104
2014-04-11
Re: Litva pokrenula diplomatski rat sa Kinom, Peking povukao veleposlanika
Ne vidim uopce kako baltickim zemljama tj litvi mogu ekonomski nasteti rusija i poglavito kina...balticke zemlje ne ovise toliko energetski npr.od rusije jer plin uvoze od amera tj imaju LGN..terminale..robnu razmjenu imaju 80% slucajeva sa zapadom..tako da..prijetnje kine i rusije su kao mjehur od sapunice..vise...buuuu mi smo strasni...
vuksadinare- Posts : 100240
2015-09-08
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