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"Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by Serbinho-3 14/6/2021, 17:53
https://www.telegraf.rs/auto/auto-vesti/3351367-yugo-skuplji-od-mercedesa-i-porschea
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by Serbinho-3 14/6/2021, 17:57
Yugo kao Porsche i Mercedes
Sagovornici New York Times-a se slažu da Yugo nije toliko loš auto kao što sugeriše loša reputacija koja ga prati. To objašnjava činjenicu zašto je mali jugoslovenski hečbek sve više tretiran kao "zvezda u usponu", čija vrednost iz dana u dan sve više raste. To pokazuju i cene koje sve češće dostiže na aukcijama polovnih automobila.Tako je na aukciji sajta "Cars & Bids" jedna beli Yugo GV iz 1988. godine, u oktobru prošle godine, prodat je po ceni od 6.100 dolara. Zanimljivo je, poređenja radi, spomenuti da su u cenovnom rangu od oko 6.000 dolara, na istom sajtu prodati Porsche 924 iz 1987. i Mercedes-Benz 500SL iz 1990. godine. (Krajem osamdesetih, kada se kao nov automobil prodavao na američkom tržištu, Yugo je koštao 3.990 dolara.)
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 17:58
jugo je sam sebe ubio jer su ameri crkavali od smijeha na taj auto
bio je beznadno zastario u trenutku kad je izašao na tržište (u bit je ispod lima bio prastari fiat 127), složen ko da su ga radila djeca na tehničkom, spor, nekvalitetan, kvarljiv, i u svakom pogledu jadan. Kad bi kupio Buicka dobio bi Yugo pride jer ih se drukčije nisu mogli riješit sa skladišta, a prodavali su ih uz veliki gubitak po svakom prodanom
bio je beznadno zastario u trenutku kad je izašao na tržište (u bit je ispod lima bio prastari fiat 127), složen ko da su ga radila djeca na tehničkom, spor, nekvalitetan, kvarljiv, i u svakom pogledu jadan. Kad bi kupio Buicka dobio bi Yugo pride jer ih se drukčije nisu mogli riješit sa skladišta, a prodavali su ih uz veliki gubitak po svakom prodanom
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 18:17
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15128790/yugo-going-gone/
This year marks the 25th anniversary of the Yugo’s arrival in America, imported here by master pitchman Malcolm Bricklin. Curiously, even before Bricklin first laid eyes on the car, he’d already gone bust four times, three of which were automotive. He had tanked as a Subaru importer, did fiscal harm to the province of New Brunswick (where his gullwing Bricklin SV-1 was built), and fizzled again when he imported Fiats as Pininfarina Spiders and Bertone X1/9s.
With that résumé in hand, Bricklin persuaded Crvena Zastava, the Communist Yugoslavian carmaker whose greatest achievement would be being bombed by NATO in 1999, to make Yugos palatable for U.S. consumption, each selling for as little as $4400. Unfortunately, setting up a dealer network, shipping the cars, and paying for their expected warranty claims would be costly. Bricklin thus barnstormed the country, drumming up financing from 21 separate investors, including shipping magnate Per Arneberg, Nordic American Bank, and various members of his own family.
Meanwhile, he was ensconced in a $2.3 million 4500-acre ranch in Colorado, complete with a glass-enclosed swimming pool, a hunting lodge, a landing pad for his helicopter, and the body of a Yugo proudly protruding from the roof of his barn.
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Vuic’s book is thoroughly researched, with hundreds of annotations. Its true genius, however, is its fine focus not on the Yugo itself, but on Bricklin the man—an outsized opportunist, a thick-skinned megacapitalist whose modus operandi was to overpromise and underdeliver, a Mr. Magoo oblivious to the wreckage all around him, a charming marketing manipulator who realizes he has crossed the line only when the subpoenas start flying. In short, a fascinating story well told.
This year marks the 25th anniversary of the Yugo’s arrival in America, imported here by master pitchman Malcolm Bricklin. Curiously, even before Bricklin first laid eyes on the car, he’d already gone bust four times, three of which were automotive. He had tanked as a Subaru importer, did fiscal harm to the province of New Brunswick (where his gullwing Bricklin SV-1 was built), and fizzled again when he imported Fiats as Pininfarina Spiders and Bertone X1/9s.
With that résumé in hand, Bricklin persuaded Crvena Zastava, the Communist Yugoslavian carmaker whose greatest achievement would be being bombed by NATO in 1999, to make Yugos palatable for U.S. consumption, each selling for as little as $4400. Unfortunately, setting up a dealer network, shipping the cars, and paying for their expected warranty claims would be costly. Bricklin thus barnstormed the country, drumming up financing from 21 separate investors, including shipping magnate Per Arneberg, Nordic American Bank, and various members of his own family.
Meanwhile, he was ensconced in a $2.3 million 4500-acre ranch in Colorado, complete with a glass-enclosed swimming pool, a hunting lodge, a landing pad for his helicopter, and the body of a Yugo proudly protruding from the roof of his barn.
...
Vuic’s book is thoroughly researched, with hundreds of annotations. Its true genius, however, is its fine focus not on the Yugo itself, but on Bricklin the man—an outsized opportunist, a thick-skinned megacapitalist whose modus operandi was to overpromise and underdeliver, a Mr. Magoo oblivious to the wreckage all around him, a charming marketing manipulator who realizes he has crossed the line only when the subpoenas start flying. In short, a fascinating story well told.
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 18:18
dakle, kao što kaže C&D (koji usput hvali Rimca) najveći uspjeh Crvene Zastave je bio taj da ih je NATO bombardirao...
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 18:34
Here are some quotes from the 1986 road test of the Yugo GV
"Damn the test drive, Martha. This sucker is cheap!"
"Driving the boxy little front-driver is about as much fun as driving your couch."
"For big city dwellers who play the daily creative parking game, this car is hard to beat."
"The plastic that covers the dash is a constant reminder that petrochemical products do indeed come from decomposed dinosaurs."
"A recon mission under the hood reveals the Yugo's international origins. Packard electrical connections are in evidence. Bosch is represented by the ignition coil and the distributor. Lancia makes it's contribution in the form of the oil filter."
"The absence of a tachometer makes it hard to know when to upshift, so Yugo has built in a Pavlonian method of acoustic negative reinforcement. Bring the engine up to somewhere near where the redline should be and it sets up a deafening, resonant drone drone that tells you to shift before you damage something."
"Do-it-yourselfers will find the engine easy to work on. The spark plugs, the oil and fuel filters, the distributor, and most most major components are very accessible. The Yugo looks like an ideal training ground for shade-tree mechanics."
"The shift mechanism feels as if it was designed by Cap'n Crunch."
"Once underway, the Yugo feels lively enough if you don't mind the background noise of keeping the little engine on the cam."- Tony Assenza.
"One thing about the GV: you never have to wonder how Yugo saves you money; all the missing items are right there in every other car around you."-Larry Griffin
"It's obvious to me that the Yugo GV is inferior to every other car sold in America."
So how did the Yugo actually do durig the test? let's take a look at the results:
Acceleration:
0-60 in 14.0 seconds
1/4 mile in 19.5 seconds
Top Speed: 86mph@5250rpm
Braking 70-0 in 202 feet.
Brake fade: moderate
"Damn the test drive, Martha. This sucker is cheap!"
"Driving the boxy little front-driver is about as much fun as driving your couch."
"For big city dwellers who play the daily creative parking game, this car is hard to beat."
"The plastic that covers the dash is a constant reminder that petrochemical products do indeed come from decomposed dinosaurs."
"A recon mission under the hood reveals the Yugo's international origins. Packard electrical connections are in evidence. Bosch is represented by the ignition coil and the distributor. Lancia makes it's contribution in the form of the oil filter."
"The absence of a tachometer makes it hard to know when to upshift, so Yugo has built in a Pavlonian method of acoustic negative reinforcement. Bring the engine up to somewhere near where the redline should be and it sets up a deafening, resonant drone drone that tells you to shift before you damage something."
"Do-it-yourselfers will find the engine easy to work on. The spark plugs, the oil and fuel filters, the distributor, and most most major components are very accessible. The Yugo looks like an ideal training ground for shade-tree mechanics."
"The shift mechanism feels as if it was designed by Cap'n Crunch."
"Once underway, the Yugo feels lively enough if you don't mind the background noise of keeping the little engine on the cam."- Tony Assenza.
"One thing about the GV: you never have to wonder how Yugo saves you money; all the missing items are right there in every other car around you."-Larry Griffin
"It's obvious to me that the Yugo GV is inferior to every other car sold in America."
So how did the Yugo actually do durig the test? let's take a look at the results:
Acceleration:
0-60 in 14.0 seconds
1/4 mile in 19.5 seconds
Top Speed: 86mph@5250rpm
Braking 70-0 in 202 feet.
Brake fade: moderate
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by niels 14/6/2021, 18:35
marcellus wrote:https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15128790/yugo-going-gone/
This year marks the 25th anniversary of the Yugo’s arrival in America, imported here by master pitchman Malcolm Bricklin. Curiously, even before Bricklin first laid eyes on the car, he’d already gone bust four times, three of which were automotive. He had tanked as a Subaru importer, did fiscal harm to the province of New Brunswick (where his gullwing Bricklin SV-1 was built), and fizzled again when he imported Fiats as Pininfarina Spiders and Bertone X1/9s.
With that résumé in hand, Bricklin persuaded Crvena Zastava, the Communist Yugoslavian carmaker whose greatest achievement would be being bombed by NATO in 1999, to make Yugos palatable for U.S. consumption, each selling for as little as $4400. Unfortunately, setting up a dealer network, shipping the cars, and paying for their expected warranty claims would be costly. Bricklin thus barnstormed the country, drumming up financing from 21 separate investors, including shipping magnate Per Arneberg, Nordic American Bank, and various members of his own family.
Meanwhile, he was ensconced in a $2.3 million 4500-acre ranch in Colorado, complete with a glass-enclosed swimming pool, a hunting lodge, a landing pad for his helicopter, and the body of a Yugo proudly protruding from the roof of his barn.
...
Vuic’s book is thoroughly researched, with hundreds of annotations. Its true genius, however, is its fine focus not on the Yugo itself, but on Bricklin the man—an outsized opportunist, a thick-skinned megacapitalist whose modus operandi was to overpromise and underdeliver, a Mr. Magoo oblivious to the wreckage all around him, a charming marketing manipulator who realizes he has crossed the line only when the subpoenas start flying. In short, a fascinating story well told.
Ovi ga sole li sole po ranama...
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 18:36
to je zapravo o knjizi o jugu koju je napisao jedan srbin, Jason Vuić: "Raise and fall of the worst car in history"
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 18:36
a ovaj idući post su izvadci iz testa u c&d-u
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 18:39
jasno je da je Bricklin pokupio pare, kupio si viletinu od nekoliko milijuna dolara s heliodromom i ostakljenim bazenom, i to od naivnih srba koji su mislili da će napraviti "posao stoljeća" s izvozom poluproizvoda rađenog po talijanskoj licenci u Ameriku. U biti su masno plaćali Bricklina, aute izvozili ispod ekonomske proizvodne cijene, i to debelo, a na kraju su ostali neprodani.
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 18:42
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a21082360/a-quick-history-of-the-yugo-the-worst-car-in-history/
In May 1984, entrepreneur Malcolm Bricklin was in a bind. His venture, the importation of Pininfarina Spiders and Bertone X1/9s, was failing, and, facing bankruptcy, he had 120 days to find a more profitable car to sell here. So Bricklin scoured the world, traveling first to England, where he tried to land Jaguar, then to Serbia, a republic of what was then communist Yugoslavia. It was there, in the parking lot of Belgrade’s Hotel InterContinental, that he and former Fiat executive Tony Ciminera first examined a Fiat-based hatchback called the Yugo.
“I’m looking at [the car] and I said, ‘Ugh! This is really primitive!’ ” recalls Ciminera. But Bricklin was desperate. So the next day, he and Ciminera toured the Yugo factory, the owner of which, the aptly named Crvena Zastava (or Red Flag) Works, also made machine guns. The building was dark, the floors greasy, and Ciminera was shocked to discover smoking workers stepping into cars with dirty shoes on and newly stamped fenders being thrown into bins. It was a disaster. But because the Yugo cost about $2000 wholesale, Bricklin figured he could cover the car’s homologation and sell it stateside for just $3990, which he did in August 1985.
Although it was a communist-made car sold in Reagan’s America, dealers had customers lining up 10 deep to buy one. Yugo America sold an astonishing 1050 cars in a single day. But what goes up must come down. There were serious quality issues. The car was slow, crawling to 60 mph in 14 seconds and topping out at 86 mph. Then came the reviews. C/D’s then technical director, Csaba Csere, wrote, “It’s obvious to me that the Yugo GV is inferior to every other car sold in America.”
The hits kept coming. The car performed poorly in crash tests, sales plummeted, and soon everyone was ripping on it: Saturday Night Live, Leno, Letterman, The Simpsons. Kids told jokes about it, and one dealer in Philadelphia offered a “Toyugo” sale, but most buyers refused the free Yugo that came with the purchase of their Toyota. The end came in 1992, when, during the Yugoslav civil war, Yugo America went bankrupt (for a second time), and the United Nations issued a trade embargo on Serbia that included Yugo parts.
The hits kept coming. The car performed poorly in crash tests, sales plummeted, and soon everyone was ripping on it: Saturday Night Live, Leno, Letterman, The Simpsons. Kids told jokes about it, and one dealer in Philadelphia offered a “Toyugo” sale, but most buyers refused the free Yugo that came with the purchase of their Toyota. The end came in 1992, when, during the Yugoslav civil war, Yugo America went bankrupt (for a second time), and the United Nations issued a trade embargo on Serbia that included Yugo parts.
In May 1984, entrepreneur Malcolm Bricklin was in a bind. His venture, the importation of Pininfarina Spiders and Bertone X1/9s, was failing, and, facing bankruptcy, he had 120 days to find a more profitable car to sell here. So Bricklin scoured the world, traveling first to England, where he tried to land Jaguar, then to Serbia, a republic of what was then communist Yugoslavia. It was there, in the parking lot of Belgrade’s Hotel InterContinental, that he and former Fiat executive Tony Ciminera first examined a Fiat-based hatchback called the Yugo.
“I’m looking at [the car] and I said, ‘Ugh! This is really primitive!’ ” recalls Ciminera. But Bricklin was desperate. So the next day, he and Ciminera toured the Yugo factory, the owner of which, the aptly named Crvena Zastava (or Red Flag) Works, also made machine guns. The building was dark, the floors greasy, and Ciminera was shocked to discover smoking workers stepping into cars with dirty shoes on and newly stamped fenders being thrown into bins. It was a disaster. But because the Yugo cost about $2000 wholesale, Bricklin figured he could cover the car’s homologation and sell it stateside for just $3990, which he did in August 1985.
Although it was a communist-made car sold in Reagan’s America, dealers had customers lining up 10 deep to buy one. Yugo America sold an astonishing 1050 cars in a single day. But what goes up must come down. There were serious quality issues. The car was slow, crawling to 60 mph in 14 seconds and topping out at 86 mph. Then came the reviews. C/D’s then technical director, Csaba Csere, wrote, “It’s obvious to me that the Yugo GV is inferior to every other car sold in America.”
The hits kept coming. The car performed poorly in crash tests, sales plummeted, and soon everyone was ripping on it: Saturday Night Live, Leno, Letterman, The Simpsons. Kids told jokes about it, and one dealer in Philadelphia offered a “Toyugo” sale, but most buyers refused the free Yugo that came with the purchase of their Toyota. The end came in 1992, when, during the Yugoslav civil war, Yugo America went bankrupt (for a second time), and the United Nations issued a trade embargo on Serbia that included Yugo parts.
The hits kept coming. The car performed poorly in crash tests, sales plummeted, and soon everyone was ripping on it: Saturday Night Live, Leno, Letterman, The Simpsons. Kids told jokes about it, and one dealer in Philadelphia offered a “Toyugo” sale, but most buyers refused the free Yugo that came with the purchase of their Toyota. The end came in 1992, when, during the Yugoslav civil war, Yugo America went bankrupt (for a second time), and the United Nations issued a trade embargo on Serbia that included Yugo parts.
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 18:58
al dobro to što su mu ameri radili nije ništa spram onog što mu je radio Jeremy Clarkson
"You get overtaken by wildlife"
"All they did with the Yugo 45 was to take all the best bits out of Fiat 127 and threw them away. Once they were left with a bag of rubbish they got a top Yugoslavian styling guru to come up with this amazing shape"
"You get overtaken by wildlife"
"All they did with the Yugo 45 was to take all the best bits out of Fiat 127 and threw them away. Once they were left with a bag of rubbish they got a top Yugoslavian styling guru to come up with this amazing shape"
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by Guest 14/6/2021, 19:03
Toliko se u svijetu sa Trabantom nisu sprdali kak s Yugom.
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by niels 14/6/2021, 20:19
Serbinho, ne znam zakaj si otvoril temu, al ovo je vređaona, i to žešća…
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 20:27
niels wrote:Serbinho, ne znam zakaj si otvoril temu, al ovo je vređaona, i to žešća…
to je ovdje dio srpsko hrvatskih odnosa. Dio rituala.
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 20:29
Sovak wrote:Toliko se u svijetu sa Trabantom nisu sprdali kak s Yugom.
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by marcellus 14/6/2021, 20:44
No da se vratim na temu, nije Leno ubio Juga, ubila ga je nekvaliteta. Sprdačina s njim je došla kasnije, a Leno tek na kraju, kad je Yugo već bio opći predmet sprdnje u Americi. Na kraju su neprodane dali studentima umjetnosti da naprave od njih nešto kreativno.
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Re: "Džej Leno taj koji je ubio Yuga",
by niels 14/6/2021, 20:48
Uvijek sam sumnjao da je Zastava radila aute ispred svojeg vremena.
Naime, toliko su bili podupravljivi da su morali biti pripremljeni na autonomiju.
Moreš motat do sudnjeg dana, stiskat kuplung, za kočnice da se ne zblokiraju moraš ih odstiskat u određenoj sekvenci da se uopće aktiviraju…kaj nije bila i garancija da se ne bu smjesta odmah opet zblokirale..
To je bil avangarda, sam su ih prerano dopeljali na cestu. Danas bi bili apsolutni hit!
Naime, toliko su bili podupravljivi da su morali biti pripremljeni na autonomiju.
Moreš motat do sudnjeg dana, stiskat kuplung, za kočnice da se ne zblokiraju moraš ih odstiskat u određenoj sekvenci da se uopće aktiviraju…kaj nije bila i garancija da se ne bu smjesta odmah opet zblokirale..
To je bil avangarda, sam su ih prerano dopeljali na cestu. Danas bi bili apsolutni hit!
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