kary mullis, nobelovac izumitelj pcr testa...

T. wrote:Kaže naziv 'kineski virus' je rasizam...
A 'britanski soj', 'brazilski soj', 'njujorški soj' nije...

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:Kaže naziv 'kineski virus' je rasizam...
A 'britanski soj', 'brazilski soj', 'njujorški soj' nije...

kineski virus jer je izvor zaraze bio u Kini. koji jebeni rasizam? gledajući što rade arogantni autokratski korumpirani političari u rvackoj doć će uskoro i rvacki soj ne brini...

Gnječ wrote:

napraviš manje ciklusa imaš manje pozitivnih, napraviš više ciklusa imaš više pozitivnih. tko ih uopće kontrolira koliko ciklusa oni naprave

melkior wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

napraviš manje ciklusa imaš manje pozitivnih, napraviš više ciklusa imaš više pozitivnih. tko ih uopće kontrolira koliko ciklusa oni naprave

Upravo o tome se i radi, broj zaraženih ovisi prije svega, o broju testiranih. Više testiranih = više zaraženih, manje testiranih=manje zaraženih. Ludilo 

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Ra wrote:

kaya wrote:Zemlja je ravna

Što ravna? A gdje ti je ploča?

Molim punu rečenicu drugarice Kayo: Zemlja je ravna ploča.  Vidiš da ti daju palčeve dolje. 

I ako se cijepimo svi ćemo biti čiširani, znati će kad što radimo, s kim se švalerišemo i...tako. 

aludiraš na PCR test tj. našu sumnjičavost? prije nego nas špotaš, već jesi ali nebitno, moraš znati da sam ja za taj PCR test znao prije nego su svecki "stručnjaci" objavili sveckoj raji da su na brzinu izumili dijagnostički test za Covid-19. čak sam ovdje bio stavio komentar ali nitko ni da pročita. i to mi je nebitno malo žalosno ali nebitno meni.

meni je zapelo za oko jedan detalj na ambalaži tog testa na fotki koju su stavili na net kasnije su je brzo izbrisali ali jebiga, what is done can not be undone.  detalj je taj da su oni imali PCR testove za SARS CoV2 PRIJE nego je pandemija uopće počela! kako to da se nitko u svijetu osim mene nije zapitao kako je to moguće da su testovi za SARS CoV2 postojali i bili u upotrebi PRIJE nego je pandemija u Wuhanu uopće počela??

i ti tesovi su bili samo za laboratorijsku istraživačku upotrebu u biolabovima a ne za dijagnostiku kod ljudi. znači FOR RESEARCH USE ONLY (RUO)  NOT FOR USE IN DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURES

CDC REAL TIME 20 19-nCoV REAL-TIME RT-PCR PANEL

nCoV znači novel COrona Virus

ti se testovi odavno proizvode u Kini ima ih na vagone čak sam našao i koje tvornice ih proizvode dvije su. onda već u samom početku pandemije mogao si od njih naručiti pun brod tih testova.

uspio sam iskopati fotku pa evo:



kasnije su samo promijenili etiketu da netko ne primjeti pa da postane sumnjivo i napisali FOR EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION (UEA)

evo iskopao sam i tu fotku:

kaya wrote:

Ra wrote:

kaya wrote:Zemlja je ravna

Što ravna? A gdje ti je ploča?

Molim punu rečenicu drugarice Kayo: Zemlja je ravna ploča.  Vidiš da ti daju palčeve dolje. 

I ako se cijepimo svi ćemo biti čiširani, znati će kad što radimo, s kim se švalerišemo i...tako. 

Da. I moći ćemo preko cijepiva i čipa na hbo i netflix.

T. wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Hartmann wrote:Oko 3,5% populacije svijeta,je tek cjepljeno protiv virusa.Vjerujem da ce se ljudi morati osloniti na prirodnu imunost

u Vijetnamu je umrlo 35 ljudi od korone. zašto bi se cijepili?

jer je 35 nedopustivo malo?

Ra wrote:

kaya wrote:

Ra wrote:

kaya wrote:Zemlja je ravna

Što ravna? A gdje ti je ploča?

Molim punu rečenicu drugarice Kayo: Zemlja je ravna ploča.  Vidiš da ti daju palčeve dolje. 

I ako se cijepimo svi ćemo biti čiširani, znati će kad što radimo, s kim se švalerišemo i...tako. 

Da. I moći ćemo preko cijepiva i čipa na hbo i netflix.

A moći će se kupovati i kripto valute.

kaya wrote:

Ra wrote:

kaya wrote:

Ra wrote:

kaya wrote:Zemlja je ravna

Što ravna? A gdje ti je ploča?

Molim punu rečenicu drugarice Kayo: Zemlja je ravna ploča.  Vidiš da ti daju palčeve dolje. 

I ako se cijepimo svi ćemo biti čiširani, znati će kad što radimo, s kim se švalerišemo i...tako. 

Da. I moći ćemo preko cijepiva i čipa na hbo i netflix.

A moći će se kupovati i kripto valute.

Aha

Gnječ wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Hartmann wrote:Oko 3,5% populacije svijeta,je tek cjepljeno protiv virusa.Vjerujem da ce se ljudi morati osloniti na prirodnu imunost

u Vijetnamu je umrlo 35 ljudi od korone. zašto bi se cijepili?

jer je 35 nedopustivo malo?

Vjetnam je napravio ono protiv čega ste vi bili protiv od početka. prava karantena za pozitivne zaražene a ne faking samoizolacija u stanu među nezaraženima, praćenje svih koji su bili u kontaktu sa zaraženim...i tako... to je sve ono što sam ja u početku govorio da treba napraviti bez da se lockdowni i mjere i pičke matere rade.

siguran sam da redovno peru ruke, nose maske, dica su im zatvorena u kući, frigaju zmije na 100 stupnjeva.
američko vijetnamski rat, skoro 10 godina
USA - 58000 mrtvih vojnika
Vijetnam - milion mrtvih vojnika i nekoliko miliona civila


danas
borba protiv korone, prva godina
USA - 536 000 mrtvih od korone
vijetnam - 35 mrtvih od korone





_________________
"E moj Šunje. Ko od stra umire, na grobu mu prde"

e moj šunje vremena se mijenjaju. viš, vi rvati ste u jugoslaviji bili donekle normalni. nakon što ste dobili vlastitu državu odmah ste pobudalili i postali gluplji od teladi. vi i dalje mislite o sebi da ste najpametniji ali realnost vas demantira jer u realnosti ste gluplji od najglupljeg kurca.

As early as January 2020, Vietnam conducted its first risk assessment, immediately after a cluster of cases of "severe pneumonia" was discovered in Wuhan, China.

Guy Thwaites, an infectious disease doctor who works in one of the main hospitals designated by the Vietnamese government to treat COVID-19 patients, told Insider the government responded "very quickly and robustly."

"Schools were shut down and there was a limit on international flights coming in," Thwaites said. "The government did all the simple things quickly."

the country's success in handling the virus came down to three things: contact tracing, strategic testing, and clear messaging.

Instead of testing everyone, they tested those identified in contact tracing. The borders were shut down and everyone who came into the country was quarantined in government facilities — for free.

Insider's Kate Taylor was in Vietnam last February when there were fewer than 20 cases in the country. Taylor said she saw an emphasis on safety measures like mask-wearing, knowing symptoms of the virus, and temperature checks.

The country never went into nationwide lockdown while trying to contain the virus

In an article for the United Nations, Malhotra wrote that the country announced a three-week village-wide quarantine last February. Vietnam closed its border and suspended flights from mainland China, the UK, Europe, and the rest of the world shortly thereafter.

When cases pop up, areas with the infections are placed on a local shutdown where no one can come in or out, Malhotra said.

Instead of locking the entire country down, the prime minister implemented social distancing measures throughout the country for two weeks in April.

By early May, people across Vietnam were largely able to return to their regular lives.

"The government adopted a zero-tolerance approach to get rid of the virus," Thwaites said. "Basic measures were implemented, but it wasn't easy. When people trust the government, people do what the government says."


Vietnam's approach to combating the virus deserves more recognition

Vietnam had the potential to be a hotspot because of its location and population. But by using a low-cost model and implementing basic safety measures (like washing your hands and wearing a mask), it was able to contain the virus within a few months of the pandemic.

No other country with the same size or population has contained the virus the way Vietnam has. With a population of 102 million, Egypt has recorded more than 176,000 coronavirus cases, according to John Hopkins. The Democratic Republic of the Congo — landlocked in the middle of the African continent — has recorded more than 24,000 cases with a population of 89 million.

Despite sharing a border with the country where the outbreak started, Vietnam's success story is one worth telling.

According to Malhotra, Vietnam had a better response to fighting the virus than New Zealand.


https://www.businessinsider.com/vietnam-coronavirus-measures-among-best-in-world-contact-tracing-masks-2021-2

T. wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:Kaže naziv 'kineski virus' je rasizam...
A 'britanski soj', 'brazilski soj', 'njujorški soj' nije...

kineski virus jer je izvor zaraze bio u Kini. koji jebeni rasizam? gledajući što rade arogantni autokratski korumpirani političari u rvackoj doć će uskoro i rvacki soj ne brini...

Nek samo dođe, to bi mu bio kraj...
Razjebali smo sve šta smo mogli pa ćemo i njega...

Triny wrote:

T. wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:Kaže naziv 'kineski virus' je rasizam...
A 'britanski soj', 'brazilski soj', 'njujorški soj' nije...

kineski virus jer je izvor zaraze bio u Kini. koji jebeni rasizam? gledajući što rade arogantni autokratski korumpirani političari u rvackoj doć će uskoro i rvacki soj ne brini...

Nek samo dođe, to bi mu bio kraj...
Razjebali smo sve šta smo mogli pa ćemo i njega...

Šta nije pisano da su na tragu otkrića hrvatskog soja?
Znači još ništa? Koje razočarenje...

mortal wrote:

Triny wrote:

T. wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:Kaže naziv 'kineski virus' je rasizam...
A 'britanski soj', 'brazilski soj', 'njujorški soj' nije...

kineski virus jer je izvor zaraze bio u Kini. koji jebeni rasizam? gledajući što rade arogantni autokratski korumpirani političari u rvackoj doć će uskoro i rvacki soj ne brini...

Nek samo dođe, to bi mu bio kraj...
Razjebali smo sve šta smo mogli pa ćemo i njega...

Šta nije pisano da su na tragu otkrića hrvatskog soja?
Znači još ništa? Koje razočarenje...

znači razočerala si se

mutava baštarda wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Hartmann wrote:Oko 3,5% populacije svijeta,je tek cjepljeno protiv virusa.Vjerujem da ce se ljudi morati osloniti na prirodnu imunost

u Vijetnamu je umrlo 35 ljudi od korone. zašto bi se cijepili?

jer je 35 nedopustivo malo?

Vjetnam je napravio ono protiv čega ste vi bili protiv od početka. prava karantena za pozitivne zaražene a ne faking samoizolacija u stanu među nezaraženima, praćenje svih koji su bili u kontaktu sa zaraženim...i tako... to je sve ono što sam ja u početku govorio da treba napraviti bez da se lockdowni i mjere i pičke matere rade.

siguran sam da redovno peru ruke, nose maske, dica su im zatvorena u kući, frigaju zmije na 100 stupnjeva.
američko vijetnamski rat, skoro 10 godina
USA - 58000 mrtvih vojnika
Vijetnam - milion mrtvih vojnika i nekoliko miliona civila


danas
borba protiv korone, prva godina
USA - 536 000 mrtvih od korone
vijetnam - 35 mrtvih od korone





_________________
"E moj Šunje. Ko od stra umire, na grobu mu prde"

e moj šunje vremena se mijenjaju. viš, vi rvati ste u jugoslaviji bili donekle normalni. nakon što ste dobili vlastitu državu odmah ste pobudalili i postali gluplji od teladi. vi i dalje mislite o sebi da ste najpametniji ali realnost vas demantira jer u realnosti ste gluplji od najglupljeg kurca.

As early as January 2020, Vietnam conducted its first risk assessment, immediately after a cluster of cases of "severe pneumonia" was discovered in Wuhan, China.

Guy Thwaites, an infectious disease doctor who works in one of the main hospitals designated by the Vietnamese government to treat COVID-19 patients, told Insider the government responded "very quickly and robustly."

"Schools were shut down and there was a limit on international flights coming in," Thwaites said. "The government did all the simple things quickly."

the country's success in handling the virus came down to three things: contact tracing, strategic testing, and clear messaging.

Instead of testing everyone, they tested those identified in contact tracing. The borders were shut down and everyone who came into the country was quarantined in government facilities — for free.

Insider's Kate Taylor was in Vietnam last February when there were fewer than 20 cases in the country. Taylor said she saw an emphasis on safety measures like mask-wearing, knowing symptoms of the virus, and temperature checks.

The country never went into nationwide lockdown while trying to contain the virus

In an article for the United Nations, Malhotra wrote that the country announced a three-week village-wide quarantine last February. Vietnam closed its border and suspended flights from mainland China, the UK, Europe, and the rest of the world shortly thereafter.

When cases pop up, areas with the infections are placed on a local shutdown where no one can come in or out, Malhotra said.

Instead of locking the entire country down, the prime minister implemented social distancing measures throughout the country for two weeks in April.

By early May, people across Vietnam were largely able to return to their regular lives.

"The government adopted a zero-tolerance approach to get rid of the virus," Thwaites said. "Basic measures were implemented, but it wasn't easy. When people trust the government, people do what the government says."


Vietnam's approach to combating the virus deserves more recognition

Vietnam had the potential to be a hotspot because of its location and population. But by using a low-cost model and implementing basic safety measures (like washing your hands and wearing a mask), it was able to contain the virus within a few months of the pandemic.

No other country with the same size or population has contained the virus the way Vietnam has. With a population of 102 million, Egypt has recorded more than 176,000 coronavirus cases, according to John Hopkins. The Democratic Republic of the Congo — landlocked in the middle of the African continent — has recorded more than 24,000 cases with a population of 89 million.

Despite sharing a border with the country where the outbreak started, Vietnam's success story is one worth telling.

According to Malhotra, Vietnam had a better response to fighting the virus than New Zealand.


https://www.businessinsider.com/vietnam-coronavirus-measures-among-best-in-world-contact-tracing-masks-2021-2

sereš na vagone

Gnječ wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

T. wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

Hartmann wrote:Oko 3,5% populacije svijeta,je tek cjepljeno protiv virusa.Vjerujem da ce se ljudi morati osloniti na prirodnu imunost

u Vijetnamu je umrlo 35 ljudi od korone. zašto bi se cijepili?

jer je 35 nedopustivo malo?

Vjetnam je napravio ono protiv čega ste vi bili protiv od početka. prava karantena za pozitivne zaražene a ne faking samoizolacija u stanu među nezaraženima, praćenje svih koji su bili u kontaktu sa zaraženim...i tako... to je sve ono što sam ja u početku govorio da treba napraviti bez da se lockdowni i mjere i pičke matere rade.

siguran sam da redovno peru ruke, nose maske, dica su im zatvorena u kući, frigaju zmije na 100 stupnjeva.
američko vijetnamski rat, skoro 10 godina
USA - 58000 mrtvih vojnika
Vijetnam - milion mrtvih vojnika i nekoliko miliona civila


danas
borba protiv korone, prva godina
USA - 536 000 mrtvih od korone
vijetnam - 35 mrtvih od korone





_________________
"E moj Šunje. Ko od stra umire, na grobu mu prde"

e moj šunje vremena se mijenjaju. viš, vi rvati ste u jugoslaviji bili donekle normalni. nakon što ste dobili vlastitu državu odmah ste pobudalili i postali gluplji od teladi. vi i dalje mislite o sebi da ste najpametniji ali realnost vas demantira jer u realnosti ste gluplji od najglupljeg kurca.

As early as January 2020, Vietnam conducted its first risk assessment, immediately after a cluster of cases of "severe pneumonia" was discovered in Wuhan, China.

Guy Thwaites, an infectious disease doctor who works in one of the main hospitals designated by the Vietnamese government to treat COVID-19 patients, told Insider the government responded "very quickly and robustly."

"Schools were shut down and there was a limit on international flights coming in," Thwaites said. "The government did all the simple things quickly."

the country's success in handling the virus came down to three things: contact tracing, strategic testing, and clear messaging.

Instead of testing everyone, they tested those identified in contact tracing. The borders were shut down and everyone who came into the country was quarantined in government facilities — for free.

Insider's Kate Taylor was in Vietnam last February when there were fewer than 20 cases in the country. Taylor said she saw an emphasis on safety measures like mask-wearing, knowing symptoms of the virus, and temperature checks.

The country never went into nationwide lockdown while trying to contain the virus

In an article for the United Nations, Malhotra wrote that the country announced a three-week village-wide quarantine last February. Vietnam closed its border and suspended flights from mainland China, the UK, Europe, and the rest of the world shortly thereafter.

When cases pop up, areas with the infections are placed on a local shutdown where no one can come in or out, Malhotra said.

Instead of locking the entire country down, the prime minister implemented social distancing measures throughout the country for two weeks in April.

By early May, people across Vietnam were largely able to return to their regular lives.

"The government adopted a zero-tolerance approach to get rid of the virus," Thwaites said. "Basic measures were implemented, but it wasn't easy. When people trust the government, people do what the government says."


Vietnam's approach to combating the virus deserves more recognition

Vietnam had the potential to be a hotspot because of its location and population. But by using a low-cost model and implementing basic safety measures (like washing your hands and wearing a mask), it was able to contain the virus within a few months of the pandemic.

No other country with the same size or population has contained the virus the way Vietnam has. With a population of 102 million, Egypt has recorded more than 176,000 coronavirus cases, according to John Hopkins. The Democratic Republic of the Congo — landlocked in the middle of the African continent — has recorded more than 24,000 cases with a population of 89 million.

Despite sharing a border with the country where the outbreak started, Vietnam's success story is one worth telling.

According to Malhotra, Vietnam had a better response to fighting the virus than New Zealand.


https://www.businessinsider.com/vietnam-coronavirus-measures-among-best-in-world-contact-tracing-masks-2021-2

sereš na vagone

serem? jeboti pas ercegovačku mater ja serem????

koji kurac si tu zalipija tu tavelicu? ki kurac ti je to elaboriraj malo...

 Laos

 Thailand

 Cambodia

Gnječ wrote:

ako izumitelj tog testa kaže da je njegov test nepouzdan za dijagnostiku i da se tim testom može manipulirati, ja ne znam tko je mjerodavniji od njega?

Gnječ wrote:

Hartmann wrote:Oko 3,5% populacije svijeta,je tek cjepljeno protiv virusa.Vjerujem da ce se ljudi morati osloniti na prirodnu imunost

ne postoji imunost kod ovog virusa!!!! ovaj virus stalno mutira u nove sojeve!!!!

Speare Shaker wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Hartmann wrote:Oko 3,5% populacije svijeta,je tek cjepljeno protiv virusa.Vjerujem da ce se ljudi morati osloniti na prirodnu imunost

ne postoji imunost kod ovog virusa!!!! ovaj virus stalno mutira u nove sojeve!!!!

Ti si potpuno lud.

Speare Shaker wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Hartmann wrote:Oko 3,5% populacije svijeta,je tek cjepljeno protiv virusa.Vjerujem da ce se ljudi morati osloniti na prirodnu imunost

ne postoji imunost kod ovog virusa!!!! ovaj virus stalno mutira u nove sojeve!!!!

Ti si potpuno lud.

Speare Shaker wrote:

Speare Shaker wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Hartmann wrote:Oko 3,5% populacije svijeta,je tek cjepljeno protiv virusa.Vjerujem da ce se ljudi morati osloniti na prirodnu imunost

ne postoji imunost kod ovog virusa!!!! ovaj virus stalno mutira u nove sojeve!!!!

Ti si potpuno lud.

Ukratko, riječ je o novim sojevima, a ne novim virusima. I ti se novi sojevi ne razlikuju bitno od izvornih.
Imunitet stečen na određeni način na izvorni virus podrazumjeva i određenu razinu (smanjenu, ali ipak postojeću) zaštite od novih sojeva.