Engleski Zidovi traze njemacko drzavljanstvo
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Engleski Zidovi traze njemacko drzavljanstvo
Vec ih je preko 3000 zatrazilo drzavljanstvo Njemacke
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Simon Wallfisch grew up in London as the grandson of an Auschwitz survivor who swore to never return to the country that murdered her parents and 6 million other Jews.
But more than 70 years after the Holocaust, Brexit has prompted Wallfisch and thousands of other Jews in Britain to apply for German citizenship, which was stripped from their ancestors by the Nazis during the Third Reich.
"This disaster that we call Brexit has led to me just finding a way to secure my future and my children's future," said Wallfisch, 36, a well-known classical singer and cellist who received his German passport in October.
"In order to remain European I've taken the European citizenship."
Britons holding dual citizenship from an EU country like Germany will retain the privilege of free movement and work across the soon-to-be 27-nation bloc.
Many Britons whose ancestors came from other parts of Europe have been claiming citizenship in other EU member states so they can keep ties to the continent.
But for Jews whose families fled Germany to escape the Nazis, the decision has meant re-examining long-held beliefs about the country.
The German embassy in London says it has received more than 3380 citizenship applications since the Brexit referendum in June 2016. In comparison, only around 20 such requests were made annually in the years before Brexit.
Article 116 of the German Constitution allows the descendants of people persecuted by the Nazis to regain the citizenship that was removed between 1933 and 1945.
Wallfisch's grandmother, Anita Lasker-Wallfisch, was 18 in December 1943 when she was deported to Auschwitz, the Nazi death camp in occupied Poland where more than 1 million Jews were murdered.
She survived because she was a member of the camp's girls' orchestra. As a cellist, she had to play classical music while other Jews were taken to the gas chambers.
In November 1944, she was taken to Bergen-Belsen - the concentration camp where diarist Anne Frank died after also being transferred from Auschwitz at about the same time - where she was eventually liberated by the British army in April 1945.
Lasker-Wallfisch immigrated to Britain in 1946, got married and had two children. Her career as a famous cello player took her around the world, but it took decades until she overcame her hatred enough to set foot on German soil again in the 1990s.
In recent years, Lasker-Wallfisch, 93, has become a regular visitor, educating children in Germany about the Holocaust.
On Sunday's International Holocaust Remembrance Day, Lasker-Wallfisch, her grandson Simon and her daughter Maya Jacobs Lasker-Wallfisch performed for the first time together on stage at the Jewish Museum Berlin in commemoration of their family.
Before the show, the three generations sat together on the red couch in the museum's dressing room and told The Associated Press about the emotional thoughts that went into the younger two's decision to take German citizenship.
"We cannot be victims of our past. We have to have some hope for change," said Maya Jacobs Lasker-Wallfisch, a 60-year-old London psychotherapist who is Simon's aunt and is still waiting on her German citizenship to be approved.
"I feel somehow in a strange way triumphant. Something is coming full circle."
More than just retaining the ability to travel easily from country to country or maintain business ties, Jacobs Lasker-Wallfisch said there are other, more emotional reasons to acquiring German citizenship, with Britain due to leave the European Union on March 29.
"I feel an aliveness here (in Berlin) that I have not experienced before, but it totally makes sense because after all, I am German," Jacobs Lasker-Wallfisch said.
She added that if the country behind the Holocaust is now one that welcomes the descendants of the victims, "that's a good thing".
But Anita Lasker-Wallfisch, who lived through the horrors of the Holocaust, remained sceptical and pessimistic.
"Jewish people never feel secure," she said to her daughter and grandson, reminding them of her own past. "I had German nationality - it did not buy me security."
But more than 70 years after the Holocaust, Brexit has prompted Wallfisch and thousands of other Jews in Britain to apply for German citizenship, which was stripped from their ancestors by the Nazis during the Third Reich.
"This disaster that we call Brexit has led to me just finding a way to secure my future and my children's future," said Wallfisch, 36, a well-known classical singer and cellist who received his German passport in October.
"In order to remain European I've taken the European citizenship."
Britons holding dual citizenship from an EU country like Germany will retain the privilege of free movement and work across the soon-to-be 27-nation bloc.
Many Britons whose ancestors came from other parts of Europe have been claiming citizenship in other EU member states so they can keep ties to the continent.
But for Jews whose families fled Germany to escape the Nazis, the decision has meant re-examining long-held beliefs about the country.
The German embassy in London says it has received more than 3380 citizenship applications since the Brexit referendum in June 2016. In comparison, only around 20 such requests were made annually in the years before Brexit.
Article 116 of the German Constitution allows the descendants of people persecuted by the Nazis to regain the citizenship that was removed between 1933 and 1945.
Wallfisch's grandmother, Anita Lasker-Wallfisch, was 18 in December 1943 when she was deported to Auschwitz, the Nazi death camp in occupied Poland where more than 1 million Jews were murdered.
She survived because she was a member of the camp's girls' orchestra. As a cellist, she had to play classical music while other Jews were taken to the gas chambers.
In November 1944, she was taken to Bergen-Belsen - the concentration camp where diarist Anne Frank died after also being transferred from Auschwitz at about the same time - where she was eventually liberated by the British army in April 1945.
Lasker-Wallfisch immigrated to Britain in 1946, got married and had two children. Her career as a famous cello player took her around the world, but it took decades until she overcame her hatred enough to set foot on German soil again in the 1990s.
In recent years, Lasker-Wallfisch, 93, has become a regular visitor, educating children in Germany about the Holocaust.
On Sunday's International Holocaust Remembrance Day, Lasker-Wallfisch, her grandson Simon and her daughter Maya Jacobs Lasker-Wallfisch performed for the first time together on stage at the Jewish Museum Berlin in commemoration of their family.
Before the show, the three generations sat together on the red couch in the museum's dressing room and told The Associated Press about the emotional thoughts that went into the younger two's decision to take German citizenship.
"We cannot be victims of our past. We have to have some hope for change," said Maya Jacobs Lasker-Wallfisch, a 60-year-old London psychotherapist who is Simon's aunt and is still waiting on her German citizenship to be approved.
"I feel somehow in a strange way triumphant. Something is coming full circle."
More than just retaining the ability to travel easily from country to country or maintain business ties, Jacobs Lasker-Wallfisch said there are other, more emotional reasons to acquiring German citizenship, with Britain due to leave the European Union on March 29.
"I feel an aliveness here (in Berlin) that I have not experienced before, but it totally makes sense because after all, I am German," Jacobs Lasker-Wallfisch said.
She added that if the country behind the Holocaust is now one that welcomes the descendants of the victims, "that's a good thing".
But Anita Lasker-Wallfisch, who lived through the horrors of the Holocaust, remained sceptical and pessimistic.
"Jewish people never feel secure," she said to her daughter and grandson, reminding them of her own past. "I had German nationality - it did not buy me security."
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Znači engleskoj se crno piše...
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zanimljivo da traze drzavljanstvo zemlje koja ih je decimirala...
ja zivim jako dugo u Njemackoj i sa Nijemcima - ali da im previse vjerujem? jok...kad krene sranje opet ce bit ko '33...
ja zivim jako dugo u Njemackoj i sa Nijemcima - ali da im previse vjerujem? jok...kad krene sranje opet ce bit ko '33...
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kuha tihi bijes u svabama oduvijek..cisto im zavidim kako mogu biti uljudni pristojni i sa smjeskom prema svakom strancu koji im je natrpo se u drzavu..treba tu samokontrole..
razlog toga sto Zidovi traze bas od njemacke je u Zakonima KOJIH SE SVABI STRIKTNO PRIDRZAVAJU,.tako da je u danasnje vrijeme i onaj kozojeb koji se za Bozic zaletio u hrpu ljudi i pobio ih,siguran i osigurano mu je posteno sudjenje..
jeb ga..Svabija je trenutno najsredjenija drzava u Europi..izuzev nordijaca na sjeveru
razlog toga sto Zidovi traze bas od njemacke je u Zakonima KOJIH SE SVABI STRIKTNO PRIDRZAVAJU,.tako da je u danasnje vrijeme i onaj kozojeb koji se za Bozic zaletio u hrpu ljudi i pobio ih,siguran i osigurano mu je posteno sudjenje..
jeb ga..Svabija je trenutno najsredjenija drzava u Europi..izuzev nordijaca na sjeveru
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Re: Engleski Zidovi traze njemacko drzavljanstvo
Meni je zanimljivo što većina BH Židova ne samo da ima državljanstvo RH,već se mnogi od njih izjašnjavaju kao Hrvati.
Osobno sam poznavao jednog poznatog Židova iz Bosne,koji je poslednje godine života proveo u meni susjednom mjestu. To je čuveni dirigent i partizan,Oskar Danon.
Osobno sam poznavao jednog poznatog Židova iz Bosne,koji je poslednje godine života proveo u meni susjednom mjestu. To je čuveni dirigent i partizan,Oskar Danon.
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jastreb wrote:Meni je zanimljivo što većina BH Židova ne samo da ima državljanstvo RH,već se mnogi od njih izjašnjavaju kao Hrvati.
Osobno sam poznavao jednog poznatog Židova iz Bosne,koji je poslednje godine života proveo u meni susjednom mjestu. To je čuveni dirigent i partizan,Oskar Danon.
zasto bi to bilo zanimljivo...u Rijeci i okolici nitko od domacih nije nikad dirao Zidove...da nisu dosli Svabe 1943. ne bi im dlaka z glave falila...
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Aj nađi jednog u RH da se izjašnjava kao hrvat...
Barem od ovih poznatih...
Barem od ovih poznatih...
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Re: Engleski Zidovi traze njemacko drzavljanstvo
Branko Lustig
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A kako da se izjasni kao Hrvat,ako nema nishta sa njima..govorim o nacionalnom korpusu..
A to sto se u rH izjasnjavaju kao Zidovi je u biti veliki plus za RH..
A to sto se u rH izjasnjavaju kao Zidovi je u biti veliki plus za RH..
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Re: Engleski Zidovi traze njemacko drzavljanstvo
Ne mopsh se ni ti Ti,izjasniti kao svabo,jer nisi german,jptg
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Jos jednom odgovor na pitanje: BRANKO LUSTIG
Sto pisu Zidovi o njemu?
Branko Lustig is a Croatian film producer.
Sto pisu Zidovi o njemu?
Branko Lustig is a Croatian film producer.
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Nikad čuo...flumen wrote:Branko Lustig
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Odlicne filmove rezirao..spektakli..sto pisu ne znam..
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T. wrote:Nikad čuo...flumen wrote:Branko Lustig
dvostruki Oskarovac - i nikad cuo
kojiko imas godina maji?
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Zato što se radi o Židovima iz BIH. I to uglavnom iz Sarajeva,Vareša,Kaknja,Tuzle,Zenice...flumen wrote:jastreb wrote:Meni je zanimljivo što većina BH Židova ne samo da ima državljanstvo RH,već se mnogi od njih izjašnjavaju kao Hrvati.
Osobno sam poznavao jednog poznatog Židova iz Bosne,koji je poslednje godine života proveo u meni susjednom mjestu. To je čuveni dirigent i partizan,Oskar Danon.
zasto bi to bilo zanimljivo.
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flumen wrote:T. wrote:Nikad čuo...flumen wrote:Branko Lustig
dvostruki Oskarovac - i nikad cuo
kojiko imas godina maji?
Ti ga ne voli jer je velicao Partizane..
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Ma bogati, a boateng je german i može?pismejker wrote:Ne mopsh se ni ti Ti,izjasniti kao svabo,jer nisi german,jptg
Ili onaj izbuljenih očiju turčin?
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T. wrote:Ma bogati, a boateng je german i može?pismejker wrote:Ne mopsh se ni ti Ti,izjasniti kao svabo,jer nisi german,jptg
Ili onaj izbuljenih očiju turčin?
Ma kuzis ti sto hocu reci.._Mos se ti deklarativno izjasniti kao najcistokrvniji svabo crne koze,ostaje ipak cinjenica da to nije to..
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