:D:D:D

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

marcellus wrote:ono gubernija

Ni to. Stanište.
Mjesto za uhljebljivanje  raznih međunarodnih trećerazrednih birokrata.
Korisni idioti, koji imaju za zadatak držati balkansku kulturnu pustošiju što dalje od civiliziranog svijeta.

kako sad odjednom takav zaokret??? do malo prije je bilo mi bosanci mi ercegovci supermeni ovo-ono... Haplogroup I2a1b-L621 also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric) najčišći narod ubosni i ercegovni.

Odnosilo se na nas i ne na njiHa. Kužiš? Qrtza ti kužiš...

Ima da bidne graDžanska, pa makar u svaezu s Islamskom braćom.

https://avaz.ba/vijesti/bih/435469/komsic-df-nije-sam-moramo-pitati-partnere-zele-li-sa-sda-u-vlast

Eroo wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

marcellus wrote:ono gubernija

Ni to. Stanište.
Mjesto za uhljebljivanje  raznih međunarodnih trećerazrednih birokrata.
Korisni idioti, koji imaju za zadatak držati balkansku kulturnu pustošiju što dalje od civiliziranog svijeta.

kako sad odjednom takav zaokret??? do malo prije je bilo mi bosanci mi ercegovci supermeni ovo-ono... Haplogroup I2a1b-L621 also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric) najčišći narod ubosni i ercegovni.

Odnosilo se na nas i ne na njiHa. Kužiš? Qrtza ti kužiš...

Haplogroup I2a1b (M423)
I2a1b (M423, L178) was known as I1b until 2007, and I2a2 from 2008 to 2010. The main subclade, representing over 90% of all M423 lineages is L621 and its subclade L147.2. The other subclades are L41.2 (very rare) and L161.1 (found mostly in Germany and the British Isles).

Haplogroup I2a1b-L621
This branch is found overwhelmingly in Slavic countries. Its maximum frequencies are observed among the Dinaric Slavs (Slovenes, Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs, Montenegrins and Macedonians) as well as in Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, western Ukraine and Belarus. It is also common to a lower extent in Albania, Greece, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, and south-western Russia. I2-L621 (L147.2+) is also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric).

The high concentration of I2a1b-L621 in north-east Romania, Moldova and central Ukraine reminds of the maximum spread of the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture (4800-3000 BCE). No Y-DNA sample from this culture has been tested to date, but as it evolved as an offshoot from the Starčevo–Kőrös–Criş culture, it is likely that I2a was one of its main paternal lineages, and a founder effect could have increased considerably its frequency. The Cucuteni-Trypillian culture was the most advanced Neolithic culture in Europe before the Indo-European invasions in the Bronze Age and seems to have had intensive contacts with the Steppe culture before the expansion of Yamna to the Balkans and Central Europe (see histories of R1a and R1b). From 3500 BCE, at the onset of the Yamna period in the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, the Cucuteni-Trypillian people started expanding east into the steppe of what is now western Ukraine, leaving their towns (the largest in the world at the time), and adopting an increasingly nomadic lifestyle like their Yamna neighbours. It can easily be imagined that Cucuteni-Trypillian people became assimilated by the Yamna neighbours and that they spread as a minority lineage alongside haplogroups R1a and R1b as they advanced toward the Baltic with the Corded Ware expansion. Alternatively, I2-L621 lineages could have lived in relative isolation from the mainstream Proto-Indo-European society somewhere around Ukraine, Poland or Belarus, then as the centuries and millennia passed, would have blended with the predominantly R1a populations around them. The resulting amalgam would have become the ancestors of the Proto-Slavs.

Nowadays, I2a1 is five to ten times more common than G2a in Southeast Europe, while during the Neolithic period G2a was approximately four times more common. What can explain this complete reversal? At one point in history, I2a1 lineages seem to have benefited from being on the winning side. Apart from a minor boost from (hypothetically) joining Yamna's westward expansion to Europe, the principal determining event that allowed I2a1b-L621 to become a major Eastern European lineage was probably the Slavic migrations from the 6th to the 9th century CE. Most modern Eastern Europeans belonging to I2a1b fit into the L147.2 (aka CTS10228, CTS2180 or Y3111) subclade, which is thought to have arisen 5,600 years ago (just before the Yamna period and the Trypillian expansion into the steppe), but has a TMRCA of only 2,300 years according to Yfull. The minority of I2a1b-L621 individuals negative for L147.2 are all found around eastern Poland, Belarus and western Ukraine, suggesting that this is where this lineage survived since the Chalcolithic. The I2a1b-L147.2 subclade seems to have expanded very fast from 1900 years ago, which is concordant with the timing of the Slavic ethnogenesis, considering that it takes a few centuries before one man can have enough male descendants to start having an impact at the scale of a population. This I2-L147.2 ancestor would have such an impact on the burgeoning Early Slavic population, still small 2,300 years ago, but booming.

After the Germanic tribes living in eastern Germany and Poland, like the Goths, the Vandals and the Burgundians, invaded the Roman Empire, the Slavs living further east filled the vacuum. Following the collapse of the Western Roman Empire in 476, the Slavs moved in the Dinaric Alps and the Balkans. By the 9th century, the Slavs occupied all modern Slavic-speaking territories, apart from the eastern Balkans under the control of the Turkic-speaking Bulgars.

Nowadays northern Slavic countries have between 9% (Poland, Czech republic) and 21% (Ukraine) of I2a-L621, while southern Slavs have between 20% (Bulgaria) and 50% (Bosnia). The higher percentage of I2a-Din in the south is probably just due to another founder effect due to the fact that the South Slavs originated in western Ukraine, where the ratio of I2a to R1a was higher. Virtually all Dinaric I2a falls under the L147.2 branch, and the majority to the S17250 ramification, who descend from a common patrilinear ancestor who lived only 1,800 years ago.

rekoh Ukraina ti je pradomovina.

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:Sve višenacinalne države bi trebalo zabranit s nekom rezolucijom u UN.
Takve države su uvjek prijetnja ljudskim i kolektivnim pravima, jer, kako god okreneš,
netko je za ta prava zakinut - ili većina, ili manjina. Ili čak oboji, kao u ovom slučaju. 
Ovdje sam spomenuo samo problem "većina-manjina". Taj problem dodatno kompliciraju
različite vjere, a ponajviše pripadnost različitim civilizacijskim krugovima. 
Sve navedeno imamo u BiH na jednom mjestu. Razumnim ljudima je potpuno jasno da je
ona kao država nemoguća. Samo notorni glupani i neznalice mogu tvrditi suprotno.
Podjela je kao rješenje jedino racionalna.

kako funkcionira Slovenija? jel se osjećaš zakinut u tvojim hercehovačkim pravima? jel su ti slovenci oduzeli mješalicu i lopatu?

Blento, Slovenija je ozbiljna država i ne protektorat kao bosanski Komšićiluk.
Ako netko može oduzet neka prava onda bih to po svojoj vokaciji i položaju u društvu, mogao biti samo ja,
ali to se ne čini u civiliziranom svijetu, kao što je ovaj. S druge strane, blento, Slovenija je (i) moja država,
pa je taj onos ja-država uzajaman. U slučaju ako bi se ponašao do svoje države kao ti do svoje imao bih
 problema s njom, šta je i normalno. Kritiziram rukovodstvo države kad god to zaslužuje, ali državu ne mrzim,
jer bi to bio apsurd. Samo ne reci kako je i BiH država...Nije to ni D od države. Nije čak ni protektorat.Tek stanište.

zašto bi ja priznao smrdljivu Sloveniju kao državu a ti ne priznaješ BiH kao državu???? što si ti koji kurac bog te jebo bosanski? slovenski čvarak?

zato jer je slovenija država a bosna i hercegovina je kurac od ovce jalovice

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

marcellus wrote:ono gubernija

Ni to. Stanište.
Mjesto za uhljebljivanje  raznih međunarodnih trećerazrednih birokrata.
Korisni idioti, koji imaju za zadatak držati balkansku kulturnu pustošiju što dalje od civiliziranog svijeta.

kako sad odjednom takav zaokret??? do malo prije je bilo mi bosanci mi ercegovci supermeni ovo-ono... Haplogroup I2a1b-L621 also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric) najčišći narod ubosni i ercegovni.

Odnosilo se na nas i ne na njiHa. Kužiš? Qrtza ti kužiš...

Haplogroup I2a1b-L621


Nowadays northern Slavic countries have between 9% (Poland, Czech republic) and 21% (Ukraine) of I2a-L621, while southern Slavs have between 20% (Bulgaria) and 50% (Bosnia). The higher percentage of I2a-Din in the south is probably just due to another founder effect due to the fact that the South Slavs originated in western Ukraine, where the ratio of I2a to R1a was higher. Virtually all Dinaric I2a falls under the L147.2 branch, and the majority to the S17250 ramification, who descend from a common patrilinear ancestor who lived only 1,800 years ago.

rekoh Ukraina ti je pradomovina.

Eu7 (I1b*), neznalico. R1a skoro da ne postoji, ili su malim dozama, u Hercegovini, južnoj Dalmaciji i na otocima.
Ma...nisam ti ja ni mama ni tata, čitaj i uči sam. Ili si nađi udomitelja...

marcellus wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:Sve višenacinalne države bi trebalo zabranit s nekom rezolucijom u UN.
Takve države su uvjek prijetnja ljudskim i kolektivnim pravima, jer, kako god okreneš,
netko je za ta prava zakinut - ili većina, ili manjina. Ili čak oboji, kao u ovom slučaju. 
Ovdje sam spomenuo samo problem "većina-manjina". Taj problem dodatno kompliciraju
različite vjere, a ponajviše pripadnost različitim civilizacijskim krugovima. 
Sve navedeno imamo u BiH na jednom mjestu. Razumnim ljudima je potpuno jasno da je
ona kao država nemoguća. Samo notorni glupani i neznalice mogu tvrditi suprotno.
Podjela je kao rješenje jedino racionalna.

kako funkcionira Slovenija? jel se osjećaš zakinut u tvojim hercehovačkim pravima? jel su ti slovenci oduzeli mješalicu i lopatu?

Blento, Slovenija je ozbiljna država i ne protektorat kao bosanski Komšićiluk.
Ako netko može oduzet neka prava onda bih to po svojoj vokaciji i položaju u društvu, mogao biti samo ja,
ali to se ne čini u civiliziranom svijetu, kao što je ovaj. S druge strane, blento, Slovenija je (i) moja država,
pa je taj onos ja-država uzajaman. U slučaju ako bi se ponašao do svoje države kao ti do svoje imao bih
 problema s njom, šta je i normalno. Kritiziram rukovodstvo države kad god to zaslužuje, ali državu ne mrzim,
jer bi to bio apsurd. Samo ne reci kako je i BiH država...Nije to ni D od države. Nije čak ni protektorat.Tek stanište.

zašto bi ja priznao smrdljivu Sloveniju kao državu a ti ne priznaješ BiH kao državu???? što si ti koji kurac bog te jebo bosanski? slovenski čvarak?

zato jer je slovenija država a bosna i hercegovina je kurac od ovce jalovice

ne priznaješ državu BiH? zašto bi onda ja priznao državu RH??? ili Sloveniju?

Eroo wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:
Ni to. Stanište.
Mjesto za uhljebljivanje  raznih međunarodnih trećerazrednih birokrata.
Korisni idioti, koji imaju za zadatak držati balkansku kulturnu pustošiju što dalje od civiliziranog svijeta.

kako sad odjednom takav zaokret??? do malo prije je bilo mi bosanci mi ercegovci supermeni ovo-ono... Haplogroup I2a1b-L621 also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric) najčišći narod ubosni i ercegovni.

Odnosilo se na nas i ne na njiHa. Kužiš? Qrtza ti kužiš...

Haplogroup I2a1b-L621


Nowadays northern Slavic countries have between 9% (Poland, Czech republic) and 21% (Ukraine) of I2a-L621, while southern Slavs have between 20% (Bulgaria) and 50% (Bosnia). The higher percentage of I2a-Din in the south is probably just due to another founder effect due to the fact that the South Slavs originated in western Ukraine, where the ratio of I2a to R1a was higher. Virtually all Dinaric I2a falls under the L147.2 branch, and the majority to the S17250 ramification, who descend from a common patrilinear ancestor who lived only 1,800 years ago.

rekoh Ukraina ti je pradomovina.

Eu7 (I1b*), neznalico. R1a skoro da ne postoji, ili su malim dozama, u Hercegovini, južnoj Dalmaciji i na otocima.
Ma...nisam ti ja ni mama ni tata, čitaj i uči sam. Ili si nađi udomitelja...

budaletino ustaška bosančeroska te se oznake ne koriste više.

Haplogroup I2a1b (M423)
I2a1b (M423, L178) was known as I1b until 2007, and I2a2 from 2008 to 2010. The main subclade, representing over 90% of all M423 lineages is L621 and its subclade L147.2. The other subclades are L41.2 (very rare) and L161.1 (found mostly in Germany and the British Isles).

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Eroo wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

kako sad odjednom takav zaokret??? do malo prije je bilo mi bosanci mi ercegovci supermeni ovo-ono... Haplogroup I2a1b-L621 also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric) najčišći narod ubosni i ercegovni.

Odnosilo se na nas i ne na njiHa. Kužiš? Qrtza ti kužiš...

Haplogroup I2a1b-L621


Nowadays northern Slavic countries have between 9% (Poland, Czech republic) and 21% (Ukraine) of I2a-L621, while southern Slavs have between 20% (Bulgaria) and 50% (Bosnia). The higher percentage of I2a-Din in the south is probably just due to another founder effect due to the fact that the South Slavs originated in western Ukraine, where the ratio of I2a to R1a was higher. Virtually all Dinaric I2a falls under the L147.2 branch, and the majority to the S17250 ramification, who descend from a common patrilinear ancestor who lived only 1,800 years ago.

rekoh Ukraina ti je pradomovina.

Eu7 (I1b*), neznalico. R1a skoro da ne postoji, ili su malim dozama, u Hercegovini, južnoj Dalmaciji i na otocima.
Ma...nisam ti ja ni mama ni tata, čitaj i uči sam. Ili si nađi udomitelja...

budaletino ustaška bosančeroska te se oznake ne koriste više.

Haplogroup I2a1b (M423)
I2a1b (M423, L178) was known as I1b until 2007, and I2a2 from 2008 to 2010. The main subclade, representing over 90% of all M423 lineages is L621 and its subclade L147.2. The other subclades are L41.2 (very rare) and L161.1 (found mostly in Germany and the British Isles).

I1b*...uči dalje.

Haplogroup I2a1b-L621

This branch is found overwhelmingly in Slavic countries. Its maximum frequencies are observed among the Dinaric Slavs (Slovenes, Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs, Montenegrins and Macedonians) as well as in Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, western Ukraine and Belarus. It is also common to a lower extent in Albania, Greece, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, and south-western Russia. I2-L621 (L147.2+) is also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric).


Englezi uvijek stvari preokrenu, ako im se nešto ne sviđa. I2a_Din (for Dinaric) , ili EU7 (odnosno I1b*), je temeljni eu haplotip.

Nije slučajno nazvan "dinarski". A to da se širio u koncentričnim krugovima s opadajućom frekvencom također nije sporno.
Nikad nisam ni tvrdio nešto drugačije. Naša najbliža braća (mutirana) su ovi šta vidite na donjoj slici. I ovo sam često naglašavao.

Gnjec ovo za slovenski cvarak imas jednu 0,5 sljivu od mene... ...slovenski cvarak...tsssss

Eroo wrote:

Haplogroup I2a1b-L621

This branch is found overwhelmingly in Slavic countries. Its maximum frequencies are observed among the Dinaric Slavs (Slovenes, Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs, Montenegrins and Macedonians) as well as in Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, western Ukraine and Belarus. It is also common to a lower extent in Albania, Greece, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, and south-western Russia. I2-L621 (L147.2+) is also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric).


Englezi uvijek stvari preokrenu, ako im se nešto ne sviđa. I2a_Din (for Dinaric) , ili EU7 (odnosno I1b*), je temeljni eu haplotip.

Nije slučajno nazvan "dinarski". A to da se širio u koncentričnim krugovima s opadajućom frekvencom također nije sporno.
Nikad nisam ni tvrdio nešto drugačije. Naša najbliža braća (mutirana) su ovi šta vidite na donjoj slici. I ovo sam često naglašavao.

ti si mutirao u slovenski čvarak.

vuksadinare wrote:Gnjec ovo za slovenski cvarak imas jednu 0,5 sljivu od mene... ...slovenski cvarak...tsssss

pa šta nije slovenski čvarak? kad čitam Eru bosančerosa prva asocijacija mi je slovenski čvarak.

vuksadinare wrote:Gnjec ovo za slovenski cvarak imas jednu 0,5 sljivu od mene... ...slovenski cvarak...tsssss

Od mene ima za božićni poklon šišu s novičokom. 

A sad (za radoznale) evo i  današnji TV Dnevnika iz Komšićiluka.
Doduše, radi se o američkoj verziji (N1), ali da se uživat dok ga budete gledali.
Barem ja sam uživao, jer podržavam " bejha antifašiste".
Ispada da su islamska braća manje fašisti od graDžanske opcije.