Re: Kako je kapetan Klingenberg, sa još 4 druga okupirao Beograd :D

by omni 7/10/2018, 11:17

marcellus wrote:ovaj članak je čista izmišljotina, znam jer sam pisao o tome i isrpno proučio događaj.

Nije bilo pet švaba nego sedam, i imali su sa sobom i psa, i to vrlo oštrog.

E to vec mijenja citavu bit pa od herojskoga otpora stvara nadljudski.

by Eroo 7/10/2018, 11:32

marcellus wrote:ovaj članak je čista izmišljotina, znam jer sam pisao o tome i isrpno proučio događaj.

Nije bilo pet švaba nego sedam, i imali su sa sobom i psa, i to vrlo oštrog.

Aktivno ih je sudjelovalo 5, a dvojica su bili na klupi za rezerve,
u slučaju da se netko od onih 5 prehladi. Psa se u ovom članku ne spominje, što je svakako
veliki propust novinara.

by dijagram 7/10/2018, 11:41

Nemcima je bilo lako jer su sve isplanirali NATO generali i...tako nekako:)

by Šandor Winnetou 7/10/2018, 12:23

omni wrote:
marcellus wrote:ovaj članak je čista izmišljotina, znam jer sam pisao o tome i isrpno proučio događaj.

Nije bilo pet švaba nego sedam, i imali su sa sobom i psa, i to vrlo oštrog.
E to vec mijenja citavu bit pa od herojskoga otpora stvara nadljudski.

by Šandor Winnetou 7/10/2018, 12:24

dijagram wrote:Nemcima je bilo lako jer su sve isplanirali NATO generali i...tako nekako:)

Ko drugačije kaže taj kleveće i laže B-)

by Regoč 7/10/2018, 16:08

Vojni slom uzrokovala je izdaja hrvatskih i slovenskih generalah, sve trojice od ukupno 180 generalah.

by omni 7/10/2018, 16:22

Sve bombe koje su pale na Beograd su bile namjenjene Londonu. Briti su mudri, kurve, uvukli Srbe u picvajz i poklonili im raspadnutu i okupiranu drzavu, velike zrtve, NDH i na kraju komuniste. Lele. :D

by darth_vader 7/10/2018, 17:10

dijagram wrote:Nemcima je bilo lako jer su sve isplanirali NATO generali i...tako nekako:)

by Guest 7/10/2018, 20:19

Bas danas popodne strpao Rujku u Eclipse i malo se provozali do Klingenberga,malo pitoreskno zaseoce,mirno i tiho,par kilometara od Nordheima..produzili malo za Nordheim i tamo nabrali crnog lijepog grozdja u vinogradima..sjedili malo u prirodi,bobali grozdje i uzivali pred jesenjim suncem..bas sam romantican..

by immortal 7/10/2018, 21:03

pismejker wrote:Bas danas popodne strpao Rujku u Eclipse i malo se provozali do Klingenberga,malo pitoreskno zaseoce,mirno i tiho,par kilometara od Nordheima..produzili malo za Nordheim i tamo nabrali crnog lijepog grozdja u vinogradima..sjedili malo u prirodi,bobali grozdje i uzivali pred jesenjim suncem..bas sam romantican..

hh... (krali????)
lijepo ste proveli dan

by Guest 7/10/2018, 21:04

mortal wrote:
pismejker wrote:Bas danas popodne strpao Rujku u Eclipse i malo se provozali do Klingenberga,malo pitoreskno zaseoce,mirno i tiho,par kilometara od Nordheima..produzili malo za Nordheim i tamo nabrali crnog lijepog grozdja u vinogradima..sjedili malo u prirodi,bobali grozdje i uzivali pred jesenjim suncem..bas sam romantican..
hh... (krali????)
lijepo ste proveli dan

paaaa....nisamo..zaostali koji redovi..vjerovatno cekaju decembar...dish reci krali...sram te bilo.. :redface1

by red wolf 7/10/2018, 21:04

by immortal 7/10/2018, 21:05

pismejker wrote:
mortal wrote:
pismejker wrote:Bas danas popodne strpao Rujku u Eclipse i malo se provozali do Klingenberga,malo pitoreskno zaseoce,mirno i tiho,par kilometara od Nordheima..produzili malo za Nordheim i tamo nabrali crnog lijepog grozdja u vinogradima..sjedili malo u prirodi,bobali grozdje i uzivali pred jesenjim suncem..bas sam romantican..
hh... (krali????)
lijepo ste proveli dan
paaaa....nisamo..zaostali koji redovi..vjerovatno cekaju decembar...dish reci krali...sram te bilo..

pa sorry
samo sam utvrdila situaciiju
ali bilo vam je lijepo
to kao da su došle ptičice i pozobale kako ti kazeš

by Guest 7/10/2018, 21:06

Inace,pored vinograda ima starih stabala oraha,jabuka,tresnji,sljiva,KOJE NITKOP NE BERE..plodovi otpadaju i trunu..
yebiga,bitno je drzati cijenu svapskih jabuka na 1,99 ojra..

by immortal 7/10/2018, 21:08

pismejker wrote:Inace,pored vinograda ima starih stabala oraha,jabuka,tresnji,sljiva,KOJE NITKOP NE BERE..plodovi otpadaju i trunu..
yebiga,bitno je drzati cijenu svapskih jabuka na 1,99 ojra..

bilo bi tu posla za nas dosta s foruma
a cijena švapskih jabuka s obzirom na Njemačku nije ni visoka

by Guest 7/10/2018, 21:08

mortal wrote:
pismejker wrote:
mortal wrote:
pismejker wrote:Bas danas popodne strpao Rujku u Eclipse i malo se provozali do Klingenberga,malo pitoreskno zaseoce,mirno i tiho,par kilometara od Nordheima..produzili malo za Nordheim i tamo nabrali crnog lijepog grozdja u vinogradima..sjedili malo u prirodi,bobali grozdje i uzivali pred jesenjim suncem..bas sam romantican..
hh... (krali????)
lijepo ste proveli dan
paaaa....nisamo..zaostali koji redovi..vjerovatno cekaju decembar...dish reci krali...sram te bilo..
pa sorry
samo sam utvrdila situaciiju
ali bilo vam je lijepo
to kao da su došle ptičice i pozobale kako ti kazeš

dekica ia starih stabala oraha,fina papica ponijeli,pa pita motara od jabuka,na kraju koji grozd grozdja.. king

by Guest 7/10/2018, 21:10

mortal wrote:
pismejker wrote:Inace,pored vinograda ima starih stabala oraha,jabuka,tresnji,sljiva,KOJE NITKOP NE BERE..plodovi otpadaju i trunu..
yebiga,bitno je drzati cijenu svapskih jabuka na 1,99 ojra..
bilo bi tu posla za nas dosta s foruma
a cijena švapskih jabuka s obzirom na Njemačku nije ni visoka

Otvorio se jedan ducan u blizini Menea..moram posnimati..uvoze sa srednjeg istoka i dalje voce,pocetkom dana,normalne cijene,sredinom,snize,pred zatvaranje,sve voce 99 centi..ljetos,kista jagoda,10x500gr pred zatvaranje 2 ojra..ludilo..ruse cijene Lidlu,sto metara dalje... :cleanteeth

by immortal 7/10/2018, 21:14

kod velike ponude, takmičenja ponuđača, najbolje prodju kupci, najgore proizvodjači,

by Guest 7/10/2018, 21:23

mortal wrote:kod velike ponude, takmičenja ponuđača, najbolje prodju kupci, najgore proizvodjači,

ziva istina..jebeno gore poljoprivrednici..gledam ima i neki Holandjanin,uvozi i prodaje cvijece,u kalenicama i rezano,cijene toliko smijesne da se covjek zaqpita,kako se uopce to isplati i dovoziti..moram sve to posnimati..
Dosao neki Dalmatinac i hoce prodavati lepinje one ..lepinje przene..3 ojra..yebote,saka brasna malo soli i hoce tri ojra..hajd malo plina..50 metara dalje,Kebap,sakurina mesa,sakurina mjesanog povrca i sos,plus lepinja..3 ojra...nije dalmatinac dugo bio... lol!

by marcellus 8/10/2018, 06:09

http://www.historynet.com/invasion-of-yugoslavia-waffen-ss-captain-fritz-klingenberg-and-the-capture-of-belgrade-during-world-war-ii.htm

The mayor of Belgrade came up to the Germans, complete with his entourage of city officials and in proper ceremonial dress. After asking what was going on, he inquired about the terms of surrender. Klingenberg told the mayor that his was the point team of several SS tank divisions, and if he did not check in with his unit by radio with the information requested, the Luftwaffe would continue their attempts to level the city. He also said that the air attacks would be followed by an artillery barrage and armored and infantry attacks that would spare no one.

The other Germans looked at their leader as if he was mad. Their radio was damaged and could not transmit, only receive; their unit was a considerable distance away; and they were out of ammunition and food. Sergeant Hossfelder later told his captain that he was in the wrong business, adding that the Propaganda Ministry could surely find a use for him.

The mayor fell for the ruse, and after an hour-long conversation with Klingenberg, he began the necessary arrangements for the surrender of the city. Then, as if on cue, a group of German aircraft flew over the city on a reconnaissance mission, and Klingenberg took advantage of the moment. He looked up, pointing to the sky, and reminded the mayor that the clock was ticking. Klingenberg gave his word that if all instructions were followed, no further harm would befall the city or its inhabitants. The city officials seemed relieved to hear that.

by marcellus 8/10/2018, 06:13

German Intelligence had projected before Belgrade surrendered that Yugoslav army casualties would number approximately 10,000 to 15,000 wounded and 2,000 dead after massive Luftwaffe and artillery bombardment and a subsequent fight to enter the city. Civilian casualties were predicted to be 10 times those figures.

Klingenberg was concerned for the welfare of his men, yet he was also worried about the fate of the civilians. He did not see the need for further bloodshed in the city, and his men were actually treated well by the civilians, who knew that they could have suffered a much worse fate.

At first, the German high command did not believe that the city had been taken. There was even word that Klingenberg would be shot for trying to fake such an exploit. Two days of radio transmissions were needed to convince Berlin that all was well. Lieutenant General Paul Hausser was ordered to inspect for himself.

When Klingenberg reported to his superiors to explain why he had not followed orders, he was drunk, unshaven and smelled of perfume. After several minutes, Klingenberg said, ‘What was I to do, give the city back?’

His indiscretions were overlooked, and the German battle plan, now obsolete, was stamped ‘completed.’ The drive into Greece was now ahead of schedule. The cost of the entire Yugoslavian campaign to Germany was 558 wounded and 151 killed, with less than a dozen aircraft lost. More than 340,000 Yugoslavs were captured. The exact number killed will never be known.

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