Re: Francuska zabranila mobitele u osnovnim školama, nastavnici odluku smatraju uvredom Prije 4 sata

by marcellus 7/6/2018, 20:20

debotoijusto wrote:
marcellus wrote:pa ovakav sistem jest gubitak vremena i novca...

a koji sistem ti zagovaras ?
gukni golube...

humboldtov.

Obrazovanje treba biti samo sebi svrha, obrazovanje kojem je svrha poboljšati tvoje šanse na tržištu rada, komercijalizirano obrazovanje, je kao i komercijalizirana umjetost. Sranje.

by **Hektorović** 7/6/2018, 20:40

marcellus wrote:
debotoijusto wrote:
marcellus wrote:pa ovakav sistem jest gubitak vremena i novca...

a koji sistem ti zagovaras ?
gukni golube...

humboldtov.

Obrazovanje treba biti samo sebi svrha, obrazovanje kojem je svrha poboljšati tvoje šanse na tržištu rada, komercijalizirano obrazovanje, je kao i komercijalizirana umjetost. Sranje.

by aben 7/6/2018, 20:45

marcellus wrote:
debotoijusto wrote:
marcellus wrote:pa ovakav sistem jest gubitak vremena i novca...

a koji sistem ti zagovaras ?
gukni golube...

humboldtov.

Obrazovanje treba biti samo sebi svrha, obrazovanje kojem je svrha poboljšati tvoje šanse na tržištu rada, komercijalizirano obrazovanje, je kao i komercijalizirana umjetost. Sranje.

a ki će to plotiti?

by Kermit 7/6/2018, 20:45

marcellus wrote:
debotoijusto wrote:
marcellus wrote:pa ovakav sistem jest gubitak vremena i novca...

a koji sistem ti zagovaras ?
gukni golube...

humboldtov.

Obrazovanje treba biti samo sebi svrha, obrazovanje kojem je svrha poboljšati tvoje šanse na tržištu rada, komercijalizirano obrazovanje, je kao i komercijalizirana umjetost. Sranje.

Alexandar Von Humboldt???

by Kermit 7/6/2018, 20:46

Hektorović wrote:
marcellus wrote:
debotoijusto wrote:
marcellus wrote:pa ovakav sistem jest gubitak vremena i novca...

a koji sistem ti zagovaras ?
gukni golube...

humboldtov.

Obrazovanje treba biti samo sebi svrha, obrazovanje kojem je svrha poboljšati tvoje šanse na tržištu rada, komercijalizirano obrazovanje, je kao i komercijalizirana umjetost. Sranje.

nadam se da su stavili Jar Jara

by marcellus 7/6/2018, 21:51

Kermit wrote:
marcellus wrote:
debotoijusto wrote:
marcellus wrote:pa ovakav sistem jest gubitak vremena i novca...

a koji sistem ti zagovaras ?
gukni golube...

humboldtov.

Obrazovanje treba biti samo sebi svrha, obrazovanje kojem je svrha poboljšati tvoje šanse na tržištu rada, komercijalizirano obrazovanje, je kao i komercijalizirana umjetost. Sranje.
Alexandar Von Humboldt???

ne, wilhelm von.

to mu je inače brat.

by Kermit 7/6/2018, 21:56

marcellus wrote:
Kermit wrote:
marcellus wrote:
debotoijusto wrote:
marcellus wrote:pa ovakav sistem jest gubitak vremena i novca...

a koji sistem ti zagovaras ?
gukni golube...

humboldtov.

Obrazovanje treba biti samo sebi svrha, obrazovanje kojem je svrha poboljšati tvoje šanse na tržištu rada, komercijalizirano obrazovanje, je kao i komercijalizirana umjetost. Sranje.
Alexandar Von Humboldt???

ne, wilhelm von.

to mu je inače brat.

Najbolji kurikulume imaju privatne škole švicarska, njemačka, engleska SAD-e i francuska a zasnivaju se na aristotelovoj podijeli predmeta i nauka, naravno retorika , logika i dijalektika

by marcellus 7/6/2018, 21:58

Humboldt installed a standardized system of public instruction, from basic schools till secondary education, and founded Berlin University. He imposed a standardization of state examinations and inspections and created a special department within the ministry to oversee and design curricula, textbooks and learning aids.[10]

Humboldt's plans for reforming the Prussian school system were not published until long after his death, together with his fragment of a treatise on the 'Theory of Human Education', which he had written in about 1793. Here, Humboldt states that 'the ultimate task of our existence is to give the fullest possible content to the concept of humanity in our own person […] through the impact of actions in our own lives.' This task 'can only be implemented through the links established between ourselves as individuals and the world around us' (GS, I, p. 283).

Humboldt's concept of education does not lend itself solely to individualistic interpretation. It is true that he always recognized the importance of the organization of individual life and the 'development of a wealth of individual forms' (GS, III, p. 358), but he stressed the fact that 'self-education can only be continued […] in the wider context of development of the world' (GS, VII, p. 33). In other words, the individual is not only entitled, but also obliged, to play his part in shaping the world around him.

Humboldt's educational ideal was entirely coloured by social considerations. He never believed that the 'human race could culminate in the attainment of a general perfection conceived in abstract terms'. In 1789, he wrote in his diary that 'the education of the individual requires his incorporation into society and involves his links with society at large' (GS, XIV, p. 155). In his essay on the 'Theory of Human Education', he answered the question as to the 'demands which must be made of a nation, of an age and of the human race'. 'Education, truth and virtue' must be disseminated to such an extent that the 'concept of mankind' takes on a great and dignified form in each individual (GS, I, p. 284). However, this shall be achieved personally by each individual, who must 'absorb the great mass of material offered to him by the world around him and by his inner existence, using all the possibilities of his receptiveness; he must then reshape that material with all the energies of his own activity and appropriate it to himself so as to create an interaction between his own personality and nature in a most general, active and harmonious form (GS, II, p. 117).

Humboldt educational model goes beyond vocational training. In a letter to the Prussian king, he wrote: "There are undeniably certain kinds of knowledge that must be of a general nature and, more importantly, a certain cultivation of the mind and character that nobody can afford to be without. People obviously cannot be good craftworkers, merchants, soldiers or businessmen unless, regardless of their occupation, they are good, upstanding and – according to their condition – well-informed human beings and citizens. If this basis is laid through schooling, vocational skills are easily acquired later on, and a person is always free to move from one occupation to another, as so often happens in life."[11] The philosopher Julian Nida-Rümelin criticized discrepancies between Humboldt's ideals and the contemporary European education policy, which narrowly understands education as a preparation for the labor market, and argued that we need to decide between McKinsey and Humboldt.[12]

by **Hektorović** 7/6/2018, 21:58

Kermit wrote:
Hektorović wrote:
nadam se da su stavili Jar Jara

[size=48][size=48]Solo: A Star Wars Story shows us the hero all feminist men have been waiting for[/size][/size]
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/solo-star-wars-hero-feminist-gender-new-film-a8365446.html

by Kermit 7/6/2018, 22:00

Hektorović wrote:
Kermit wrote:
Hektorović wrote:
nadam se da su stavili Jar Jara

[size=48][size=48]Solo: A Star Wars Story shows us the hero all feminist men have been waiting for[/size][/size]
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/solo-star-wars-hero-feminist-gender-new-film-a8365446.html

sjajno

by **Hektorović** 7/6/2018, 22:02

Kermit wrote:
Hektorović wrote:

[size=48][size=48]Solo: A Star Wars Story shows us the hero all feminist men have been waiting for[/size][/size]
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/solo-star-wars-hero-feminist-gender-new-film-a8365446.html
sjajno

Francuska zabranila mobitele u osnovnim školama, nastavnici odluku smatraju uvredom Prije 4 sata - Page 2 HanSolo5acad0ee2269a-e1527186033691

Donald Glover is Lando Calrissian and Phoebe Waller-Bridge is L3-37 in SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY.

As much as I thoroughly enjoyed Alden Ehrenreich’s Han Solo, I’d have to say the star of the show in Solo: A Star Wars Story was L3-37, the self-aware, self created female droid whose human companion is Lando Calrissian. Played by Phoebe Waller-Bridge, this new Star Wars droid is funny, touching, and serves a bit of feminist realness in the movie.

It’s so cool that L3 has a cause! She’s like a social justice warrior. She’s a droid with an agenda that goes beyond her own existence and that’s very unique. It’s good to have a message.

by Kermit 7/6/2018, 22:03

marcellus wrote:Humboldt installed a standardized system of public instruction, from basic schools till secondary education, and founded Berlin University. He imposed a standardization of state examinations and inspections and created a special department within the ministry to oversee and design curricula, textbooks and learning aids.[10]

Humboldt's plans for reforming the Prussian school system were not published until long after his death, together with his fragment of a treatise on the 'Theory of Human Education', which he had written in about 1793. Here, Humboldt states that 'the ultimate task of our existence is to give the fullest possible content to the concept of humanity in our own person […] through the impact of actions in our own lives.' This task 'can only be implemented through the links established between ourselves as individuals and the world around us' (GS, I, p. 283).

Humboldt's concept of education does not lend itself solely to individualistic interpretation. It is true that he always recognized the importance of the organization of individual life and the 'development of a wealth of individual forms' (GS, III, p. 358), but he stressed the fact that 'self-education can only be continued […] in the wider context of development of the world' (GS, VII, p. 33). In other words, the individual is not only entitled, but also obliged, to play his part in shaping the world around him.

Humboldt's educational ideal was entirely coloured by social considerations. He never believed that the 'human race could culminate in the attainment of a general perfection conceived in abstract terms'. In 1789, he wrote in his diary that 'the education of the individual requires his incorporation into society and involves his links with society at large' (GS, XIV, p. 155). In his essay on the 'Theory of Human Education', he answered the question as to the 'demands which must be made of a nation, of an age and of the human race'. 'Education, truth and virtue' must be disseminated to such an extent that the 'concept of mankind' takes on a great and dignified form in each individual (GS, I, p. 284). However, this shall be achieved personally by each individual, who must 'absorb the great mass of material offered to him by the world around him and by his inner existence, using all the possibilities of his receptiveness; he must then reshape that material with all the energies of his own activity and appropriate it to himself so as to create an interaction between his own personality and nature in a most general, active and harmonious form (GS, II, p. 117).

Humboldt educational model goes beyond vocational training. In a letter to the Prussian king, he wrote: "There are undeniably certain kinds of knowledge that must be of a general nature and, more importantly, a certain cultivation of the mind and character that nobody can afford to be without. People obviously cannot be good craftworkers, merchants, soldiers or businessmen unless, regardless of their occupation, they are good, upstanding and – according to their condition – well-informed human beings and citizens. If this basis is laid through schooling, vocational skills are easily acquired later on, and a person is always free to move from one occupation to another, as so often happens in life."[11] The philosopher Julian Nida-Rümelin criticized discrepancies between Humboldt's ideals and the contemporary European education policy, which narrowly understands education as a preparation for the labor market, and argued that we need to decide between McKinsey and Humboldt.[12]

tvoje tj Humboldtovo mišljnje je u diskrepanciji sa mišljnjem industrije i kapitala...u biti ljudi će se vrlo skoro ponovno prodavati ko roblje to je u biti puni krug a i sada se vidi

by marcellus 7/6/2018, 22:05

Kermit wrote:
marcellus wrote:Humboldt installed a standardized system of public instruction, from basic schools till secondary education, and founded Berlin University. He imposed a standardization of state examinations and inspections and created a special department within the ministry to oversee and design curricula, textbooks and learning aids.[10]

Humboldt's plans for reforming the Prussian school system were not published until long after his death, together with his fragment of a treatise on the 'Theory of Human Education', which he had written in about 1793. Here, Humboldt states that 'the ultimate task of our existence is to give the fullest possible content to the concept of humanity in our own person […] through the impact of actions in our own lives.' This task 'can only be implemented through the links established between ourselves as individuals and the world around us' (GS, I, p. 283).

Humboldt's concept of education does not lend itself solely to individualistic interpretation. It is true that he always recognized the importance of the organization of individual life and the 'development of a wealth of individual forms' (GS, III, p. 358), but he stressed the fact that 'self-education can only be continued […] in the wider context of development of the world' (GS, VII, p. 33). In other words, the individual is not only entitled, but also obliged, to play his part in shaping the world around him.

Humboldt's educational ideal was entirely coloured by social considerations. He never believed that the 'human race could culminate in the attainment of a general perfection conceived in abstract terms'. In 1789, he wrote in his diary that 'the education of the individual requires his incorporation into society and involves his links with society at large' (GS, XIV, p. 155). In his essay on the 'Theory of Human Education', he answered the question as to the 'demands which must be made of a nation, of an age and of the human race'. 'Education, truth and virtue' must be disseminated to such an extent that the 'concept of mankind' takes on a great and dignified form in each individual (GS, I, p. 284). However, this shall be achieved personally by each individual, who must 'absorb the great mass of material offered to him by the world around him and by his inner existence, using all the possibilities of his receptiveness; he must then reshape that material with all the energies of his own activity and appropriate it to himself so as to create an interaction between his own personality and nature in a most general, active and harmonious form (GS, II, p. 117).

Humboldt educational model goes beyond vocational training. In a letter to the Prussian king, he wrote: "There are undeniably certain kinds of knowledge that must be of a general nature and, more importantly, a certain cultivation of the mind and character that nobody can afford to be without. People obviously cannot be good craftworkers, merchants, soldiers or businessmen unless, regardless of their occupation, they are good, upstanding and – according to their condition – well-informed human beings and citizens. If this basis is laid through schooling, vocational skills are easily acquired later on, and a person is always free to move from one occupation to another, as so often happens in life."[11] The philosopher Julian Nida-Rümelin criticized discrepancies between Humboldt's ideals and the contemporary European education policy, which narrowly understands education as a preparation for the labor market, and argued that we need to decide between McKinsey and Humboldt.[12]

tvoje tj Humboldtovo mišljnje je u diskrepanciji sa mišljnjem industrije i kapitala...u biti ljudi će se vrlo skoro ponovno prodavati ko roblje to je u biti puni krug a i sada se vidi

glavno da lijevi debili tipa debelog ne kuže kurca i drukaju za korporacije protiv kojih onda prosvjeduju

by **Hektorović** 7/6/2018, 22:06

marcellus wrote:glavno da lijevi debili tipa debelog ne kuže kurca i drukaju za korporacije protiv kojih onda prosvjeduju

Trava im spržila mozak...

by Kermit 7/6/2018, 22:07

marcellus wrote:
Kermit wrote:
marcellus wrote:Humboldt installed a standardized system of public instruction, from basic schools till secondary education, and founded Berlin University. He imposed a standardization of state examinations and inspections and created a special department within the ministry to oversee and design curricula, textbooks and learning aids.[10]

Humboldt's plans for reforming the Prussian school system were not published until long after his death, together with his fragment of a treatise on the 'Theory of Human Education', which he had written in about 1793. Here, Humboldt states that 'the ultimate task of our existence is to give the fullest possible content to the concept of humanity in our own person […] through the impact of actions in our own lives.' This task 'can only be implemented through the links established between ourselves as individuals and the world around us' (GS, I, p. 283).

Humboldt's concept of education does not lend itself solely to individualistic interpretation. It is true that he always recognized the importance of the organization of individual life and the 'development of a wealth of individual forms' (GS, III, p. 358), but he stressed the fact that 'self-education can only be continued […] in the wider context of development of the world' (GS, VII, p. 33). In other words, the individual is not only entitled, but also obliged, to play his part in shaping the world around him.

Humboldt's educational ideal was entirely coloured by social considerations. He never believed that the 'human race could culminate in the attainment of a general perfection conceived in abstract terms'. In 1789, he wrote in his diary that 'the education of the individual requires his incorporation into society and involves his links with society at large' (GS, XIV, p. 155). In his essay on the 'Theory of Human Education', he answered the question as to the 'demands which must be made of a nation, of an age and of the human race'. 'Education, truth and virtue' must be disseminated to such an extent that the 'concept of mankind' takes on a great and dignified form in each individual (GS, I, p. 284). However, this shall be achieved personally by each individual, who must 'absorb the great mass of material offered to him by the world around him and by his inner existence, using all the possibilities of his receptiveness; he must then reshape that material with all the energies of his own activity and appropriate it to himself so as to create an interaction between his own personality and nature in a most general, active and harmonious form (GS, II, p. 117).

Humboldt educational model goes beyond vocational training. In a letter to the Prussian king, he wrote: "There are undeniably certain kinds of knowledge that must be of a general nature and, more importantly, a certain cultivation of the mind and character that nobody can afford to be without. People obviously cannot be good craftworkers, merchants, soldiers or businessmen unless, regardless of their occupation, they are good, upstanding and – according to their condition – well-informed human beings and citizens. If this basis is laid through schooling, vocational skills are easily acquired later on, and a person is always free to move from one occupation to another, as so often happens in life."[11] The philosopher Julian Nida-Rümelin criticized discrepancies between Humboldt's ideals and the contemporary European education policy, which narrowly understands education as a preparation for the labor market, and argued that we need to decide between McKinsey and Humboldt.[12]

tvoje tj Humboldtovo mišljnje je u diskrepanciji sa mišljnjem industrije i kapitala...u biti ljudi će se vrlo skoro ponovno prodavati ko roblje to je u biti puni krug a i sada se vidi

glavno da lijevi debili tipa debelog ne kuže kurca i drukaju za korporacije protiv kojih onda prosvjeduju

Lijevica je sama sebe pojela to je ćorsokak i jalova i otrovna bara, međutim desnica u biti ne uviđa da indrustilizacija ta koja je zamašnjak tom ambisu i srce zla...

by Kermit 7/6/2018, 22:08

Hektorović wrote:
marcellus wrote:glavno da lijevi debili tipa debelog ne kuže kurca i drukaju za korporacije protiv kojih onda prosvjeduju

Trava im spržila mozak...

To je bio lokalizirani požar u tiganju

by marcellus 7/6/2018, 22:09

inače na Hubmoldtovu "teoriju obrazovanosti" iz 19. stoljeća (iako je u biti napisana nešto ranije) se nastavlja Adornova "Teorija poluobrazovanosti" iz 20. stoljeća (komunjara iz frankfurtske škole, jasno) i genijalna knjiga austrijskog filozofa konrada paula liessmana iz 21. stoljeća "teorija neobrazovanosti"

deboto je lijep primjer kakve debile proizvodi današnji školski sustav čiji je on u cijelosti produkt

by Kermit 7/6/2018, 22:14

marcellus wrote:inače na Hubmoldtovu "teoriju obrazovanosti" iz 19. stoljeća (iako je u biti napisana nešto ranije) se nastavlja Adornova "Teorija poluobrazovanosti" iz 20. stoljeća (komunjara iz frankfurtske škole, jasno) i genijalna knjiga austrijskog filozofa konrada paula liessmana iz 21. stoljeća "teorija neobrazovanosti"

deboto je lijep primjer kakve debile proizvodi današnji školski sustav čiji je on u cijelosti produkt

Školovanje po meni treba barem usaditi radne navike za početak, užitak učenje, čitanja etc, međutim kod nas je ono ogromno trošenje vremena i novca te mučenje definicijama i nabrjanjima, jedino dobro su uspomene i par prijatelja ostalo baciti sve ko posrane gaće

by Leviathan2 7/6/2018, 23:12

Pleme ima najbolju edukacijsku platformu.svatko je odgovoran za svog potomka i kako Ce ga pripremit za zivot i kolicinu korisnog znanja koje Ce mu prenjeti

by aben 7/6/2018, 23:15

Kermit wrote:
marcellus wrote:inače na Hubmoldtovu "teoriju obrazovanosti" iz 19. stoljeća (iako je u biti napisana nešto ranije) se nastavlja Adornova "Teorija poluobrazovanosti" iz 20. stoljeća (komunjara iz frankfurtske škole, jasno) i genijalna knjiga austrijskog filozofa konrada paula liessmana iz 21. stoljeća "teorija neobrazovanosti"

deboto je lijep primjer kakve debile proizvodi današnji školski sustav čiji je on u cijelosti produkt
Školovanje po meni treba barem usaditi radne navike za početak,

to, shove in down their throats

by marcellus 8/6/2018, 07:31

Kermit wrote:
marcellus wrote:inače na Hubmoldtovu "teoriju obrazovanosti" iz 19. stoljeća (iako je u biti napisana nešto ranije) se nastavlja Adornova "Teorija poluobrazovanosti" iz 20. stoljeća (komunjara iz frankfurtske škole, jasno) i genijalna knjiga austrijskog filozofa konrada paula liessmana iz 21. stoljeća "teorija neobrazovanosti"

deboto je lijep primjer kakve debile proizvodi današnji školski sustav čiji je on u cijelosti produkt
Školovanje po meni treba barem usaditi radne navike za početak, užitak učenje, čitanja etc, međutim kod nas je ono ogromno trošenje vremena i novca te mučenje definicijama i nabrjanjima, jedino dobro su uspomene i par prijatelja ostalo baciti sve ko posrane gaće

disciplina prije svega

odatele i pojam "učenik"

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/discipulus#Latin

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