Francuske intelektualke odrale kokoši iz holivuda

jasambrend wrote:Onaj sto se na tost maze...

onaj tko je ovisnik o nekomu ili nečemu nema integritet.

Opet veci, nego kod licemjera...

jasambrend wrote:Opet veci, nego kod licemjera...

ne seri !! nisu te žene došle tražiti posao u bordel pa da moraju pokazati gazdi bordela svoje vještine u pušenju kurca.

Nitko ih nije tjerao da pristanu. Ima I drugih poslova. Ne postoji instant uspjeh. Netalentirane i glupe ostaju takve.

da sun jo producent, pušenje bi bi normalan uvjet za poso, jer, glumački zanat je vrlo zahtjevan, puno se rodi, snimo se u svakakovin uvjetima, nekad i samo šminkanje traje po osan uri...pušenje će omoh pokozati je li zgodna divojka spremna na velika odricanja za karijeru.

jasambrend wrote:Nitko ih nije tjerao da pristanu. Ima I drugih poslova. Ne postoji instant uspjeh. Netalentirane i glupe ostaju takve.

ima drugih poslova, ali s njima neces biti trendseter, influencer i selebriti...

BB-8 wrote:

jasambrend wrote:Nitko ih nije tjerao da pristanu. Ima I drugih poslova. Ne postoji instant uspjeh. Netalentirane i glupe ostaju takve.

ima drugih poslova, ali s njima neces biti trendseter, influencer i selebriti...

bilo bi im bolje da su šutjele i dalje, kako svih 30 godina, tako i dalje...ovako sad čitav svijet zna na koji način su uspjele.

Noor wrote:bilo bi im bolje da su šutjele i dalje, kako svih 30 godina, tako i dalje...ovako sad čitav svijet zna na koji način su uspjele.

sindrom krda...

BB-8 wrote:

jasambrend wrote:Nitko ih nije tjerao da pristanu. Ima I drugih poslova. Ne postoji instant uspjeh. Netalentirane i glupe ostaju takve.

ima drugih poslova, ali s njima neces biti trendseter, influencer i selebriti...

Ae.

veber wrote:

Noor wrote:bilo bi im bolje da su šutjele i dalje, kako svih 30 godina, tako i dalje...ovako sad čitav svijet zna na koji način su uspjele.

sindrom krda...

sindrom glupih nesposobnih kokoši!
dok su male, plaćaju tateki, a dok odrastu, plaćaju same - u naturi!

Noor wrote:

BB-8 wrote:

jasambrend wrote:Nitko ih nije tjerao da pristanu. Ima I drugih poslova. Ne postoji instant uspjeh. Netalentirane i glupe ostaju takve.

ima drugih poslova, ali s njima neces biti trendseter, influencer i selebriti...

bilo bi im bolje da su šutjele i dalje, kako svih 30 godina, tako i dalje...ovako sad čitav svijet zna na koji način su uspjele.

znači ti ćeš ostati dosljedna nikad nećeš reći kome si sve popušila da bi napredovala u karijeri.

O čemu je riječ na ovoj temi?

mativka wrote:O čemu je riječ na ovoj temi?

o tome da li je pusenje seksi slicno preduvjet za posao ili iskoristavanje ili dogovor za obe strane zadovoljene

Ja imam tu svoje misljenje, ali necu sad s moba.;-)

mativka wrote:O čemu je riječ na ovoj temi?

o pušenju kao napretku u karijeri.

Gnječ wrote:

Noor wrote:

BB-8 wrote:

jasambrend wrote:Nitko ih nije tjerao da pristanu. Ima I drugih poslova. Ne postoji instant uspjeh. Netalentirane i glupe ostaju takve.

ima drugih poslova, ali s njima neces biti trendseter, influencer i selebriti...

bilo bi im bolje da su šutjele i dalje, kako svih 30 godina, tako i dalje...ovako sad čitav svijet zna na koji način su uspjele.

znači ti ćeš ostati dosljedna nikad nećeš reći kome si sve popušila da bi napredovala u karijeri.

pa vidi, kod mene to nije bilo potrebno, sve što sam postigla postigla sam vlastitim intelektom, zalaganjem, radom i upornošću.
al, kad već pitaš, da sam odlučila sve to postići prečacem, kao ove hollywoodske glupače, sigurno bi o tome šutjela ko zalivena do kraja života, da svijet i dalje misli kako sam tu svoju zavidnu glumačku karijeru i slavu postigla svojim talentom, radom i sposobnostima, a ne jeftinom prodajom pičke.

veber wrote:

mativka wrote:O čemu je riječ na ovoj temi?

o pušenju kao napretku u karijeri.

mora imati dobra pušačka usta da bi mogla napredovati, u karijeri

Leviathan2 wrote:

mativka wrote:O čemu je riječ na ovoj temi?

o tome da li je pusenje seksi slicno preduvjet za posao ili iskoristavanje ili dogovor za obe strane zadovoljene

Smatram da je Abend ipak dao najzadovoljavajući odgovor :)

Leviathan2 wrote:

mativka wrote:O čemu je riječ na ovoj temi?

o tome da li je pusenje seksi slicno preduvjet za posao ili iskoristavanje ili dogovor za obe strane zadovoljene

Ako osoba A pruži seksualne usluge osobi B u zamjenu za novac/uslugu/ulogu u filmu/napredak u karijeri onda to nije silovanje, pravilni izraz bi bio prostitucija.

Noor wrote:

Gnječ wrote:

Noor wrote:

BB-8 wrote:

jasambrend wrote:Nitko ih nije tjerao da pristanu. Ima I drugih poslova. Ne postoji instant uspjeh. Netalentirane i glupe ostaju takve.

ima drugih poslova, ali s njima neces biti trendseter, influencer i selebriti...

bilo bi im bolje da su šutjele i dalje, kako svih 30 godina, tako i dalje...ovako sad čitav svijet zna na koji način su uspjele.

znači ti ćeš ostati dosljedna nikad nećeš reći kome si sve popušila da bi napredovala u karijeri.

pa vidi, kod mene to nije bilo potrebno, sve što sam postigla postigla sam vlastitim intelektom, zalaganjem, radom i upornošću.
al, kad već pitaš, da sam odlučila sve to postići prečacem, kao ove hollywoodske glupače, sigurno bi o tome šutjela ko zalivena do kraja života, da svijet i dalje misli kako sam tu svoju zavidnu glumačku karijeru i slavu postigla svojim talentom, radom i sposobnostima, a ne jeftinom prodajom pičke.

to nećemo nikad znati jer to moramo vjerovati na riječ. bilo bi dobro da barem 3 svjedokinje potvrde tu tvoju priču ali nebitno meni samo sam tebe uzeo kao primjer pošto si si dala truda da štitiš i braniš seksualne predatore koji su usput i psihopate ne nisam to ja izmislio nego je to tako.

priča o Weinsteinu je dugačka i kuha se već desetljećima i sad je nekako izbila na površinu usprkos tome što je on sve dao od sebe i povukao sve veze koje sežu jako visoko da se to ne desi nikada. ali ipak se desilo.

da bi shvatila koju psycho nakazu ti braniš pročitaj poduži članak na linku ispod pa ćeš promijeniti mišljenje ako ništa drugo neke ćeš svoje stavove presložiti.

Weinstein’s Complicity Machine

The producer Harvey Weinstein relied on powerful
relationships across industries to provide him with cover
as accusations of sexual misconduct piled up for decades.

"I have ears and eyes everywhere!"

Weinstein

arvey Weinstein built his complicity machine out of the witting, the unwitting and those in between. He commanded enablers, silencers and spies, warning others who discovered his secrets to say nothing. He courted those who could provide the money or prestige to enhance his reputation as well as his power to intimidate.

In the weeks and months before allegations of his methodical abuse of women were exposed in October, Mr. Weinstein, the Hollywood producer, pulled on all the levers of his carefully constructed apparatus.

He gathered ammunition, sometimes helped by the editor of The National Enquirer, who had dispatched reporters to find information that could undermine accusers. He turned to old allies, asking a partner in Creative Artists Agency, one of Hollywood’s premier talent shops, to broker a meeting with a C.A.A. client, Ronan Farrow, who was reporting on Mr. Weinstein. He tried to dispense favors: While seeking to stop the actress Rose McGowan from writing in a memoir that he had sexually assaulted her, he tried to arrange a $50,000 payment to her former manager and throw new business to a literary agent advising Ms. McGowan. The agent, Lacy Lynch, replied to him in an email: “No one understands smart, intellectual and commercial like HW.”

Mr. Weinstein’s final, failed round of manipulations shows how he operated for more than three decades: by trying to turn others into instruments or shields for his behavior, according to nearly 200 interviews, internal company records and previously undisclosed emails. Some aided his actions without realizing what he was doing. Many knew something or detected hints, though few understood the scale of his sexual misconduct. Almost everyone had incentives to look the other way or reasons to stay silent. Now, even as the tally of Mr. Weinstein’s alleged misdeeds is still emerging, so is a debate about collective failure and the apportioning of blame.

Executives at Mr. Weinstein’s film companies who learned of allegations rarely took a stand, cowed by their volatile boss or worried about their careers. His brother and partner, Bob, participated in payoffs to women as far back as 1990. Some low-level assistants were pulled in: They compiled “bibles” that included hints on facilitating encounters with women, and were required to procure his penile injections for erectile dysfunction. His lawyers crafted settlements that kept the truth from being explored, much less exposed. “When you quickly settle, there is no need to get into all the facts,” said Daniel M. Petrocelli, a lawyer who handled two agreements with accusers.

....Agents and managers across Hollywood, who wanted in on Mr. Weinstein’s star-making films, sent actresses to meet him alone at hotels and advised them to stay quiet when things went wrong. “That’s just Harvey being Harvey,” more than one agent told a client. At C.A.A., for example, at least eight talent agents were told that Mr. Weinstein had harassed or menaced female clients, but agents there continued to arrange private meetings. Even Nick Wechsler, a talent manager at another firm who confronted Mr. Weinstein about Ms. McGowan, felt he had to maintain business ties with him: “Sometimes he was the only game in town.”

Mr. Weinstein held off press scrutiny with a mix of threats and enticements, drawing reporters close with the lure of access to stars, directors and celebrity-packed parties. Some journalists negotiated book and movie deals with him even as they were assigned to cover him. The studio chief once paid a gossip writer to collect juicy celebrity tidbits that Mr. Weinstein could use to barter if other reporters stumbled onto an affair he was trying to keep quiet. He was so close to David J. Pecker, the chief executive of American Media Inc., which owns The Enquirer, that he was known in the tabloid industry as an untouchable “F.O.P.,” or “friend of Pecker.” That status was shared by a chosen few, including President Trump.

....A master of leverage, Mr. Weinstein parlayed his films into relationships across the worlds of entertainment, politics, publishing and beyond, achieving a stature that at times proved useful in intimidating others and protecting himself. “I know the president of the United States. Who do you know?” Mr. Weinstein, a Democratic fund-raiser, would say during the years Barack Obama was in the White House, adding expletives. “I’m Harvey Weinstein,” he used to say. “You know what I can do.”


....Minutes before The New York Times published the first allegations about Mr. Weinstein this fall, he called the reporters who wrote it. Swinging between flattery and threats, he said that he had ways of knowing who had cooperated with the investigation and the means to undermine it.

“I am a man who has great resources,” he warned.

‘Impossible to Control’ at Disney

When Disney bought Miramax in 1993, it acquired an un-Disney-like duo from New York, brothers who already had reputations as ruthless businessmen and fearsome bosses.

But the Weinsteins had an eye for talent and success in critically acclaimed art house films. They were given wide latitude — “virtual autonomy,” as Disney put it in a statement — a move meant to preserve Miramax’s creative culture. That hands-off supervision, several former executives now suggest, could have inadvertently created opportunities for misconduct that Mr. Weinstein exploited.

The Disney-Miramax relationship soon became strained. Over the years, multiple Disney executives cycled through the thankless task of monitoring the Weinsteins. They spent lavishly. They took on edgy films that made Disney uncomfortable. Without Disney’s knowledge, they negotiated to launch Talk, a magazine edited by Ms. Brown. They bristled at Disney’s restraints. “They were impossible to control,” said Bill Mechanic, a former executive. Soon after The Times published its story about the allegations against Mr. Weinstein, Disney’s former chief executive, Michael D. Eisner, called him “an incorrigible bully” on Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/05/us/harvey-weinstein-complicity.html

Također je zanimljivo da ih redovno siluju mali debeli ružni stari producenti dok im Clooney i Pitt vode ljubav.