Del Ponte: Ruka pravde stići će sirijskog predsjednika Bashara al-Assada
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Del Ponte: Ruka pravde stići će sirijskog predsjednika Bashara al-Assada
RUKA pravde stići će sirijskog predsjednika Bašara al-Asada čak i ako ostane na vlasti u slučaju ispregovaranog rješenja za rat u Siriji, izjavila je u ponedjeljak UN-ova istražiteljica za ljudska prava Carla del Ponte.
"Asad je predsjednik, dakle imamo posla s institucijom predsjednika. Ako s njime možemo postići primirje, zašto ne? No, nakon toga stiže pravda", rekla je Del Ponte novinarima.
> Wikileaks objavio dokument o američkim planovima za destabilizaciju Sirije
"Sjetite se bivše Jugoslavije. Milošević je bio predsjednik, dogodili su se mirovni pregovori u Daytonu i postignut je sporazum. Milošević je i dalje bio predsjednik, ali to nije smetalo pravdi. Eto jednog primjera iz prošlosti", dodala je.
Prioritet je zaustavljanje rata
Del Ponte je bila glavna istražiteljica Haškog suda koji je 2002. počeo suditi Miloševiću, sedam godina nakon što je potpisao mirovni sporazum kojim je okončan rat u bivšoj Jugoslaviji. Milošević je umro u pritvoru 2006. ne dočekavši kraj suđenja.
SAD i europske zemlje ovog su tjedna ublažile zahtjev za trenutnim odlaskom Asada s vlasti rekavši da bi umjesto toga njegov odlazak mogao biti dio budućeg mirovnog sporazuma.
> Kerry: Asad mora otići, neka Rusija i Iran pomognu u mirnoj tranziciji
Upitana misli li da će ruka pravde stići i Asada, Del Ponte je rekla: "Da, to se mora učiniti".
Prioritet je zaustaviti rat, istaknula je Del Ponte, ali se nada da bi se i za Siriju mogao uspostaviti ad hoc sud poput onih za bivšu Jugoslaviju i Ruandu.
Takav bi sud trebalo osnovati Vijeće sigurnosti UN-a, no to uključuje rizik da ga blokiraju Rusija i Kina, dvije stalne članice vijeća koje su nekoliko puta uložile veto na UN-ove rezolucije koje su oštro kritizirale Asada.
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/carla-del-ponte-asada-ceka-sudbina-slobodana-milosevica-/843282.aspx
"Asad je predsjednik, dakle imamo posla s institucijom predsjednika. Ako s njime možemo postići primirje, zašto ne? No, nakon toga stiže pravda", rekla je Del Ponte novinarima.
> Wikileaks objavio dokument o američkim planovima za destabilizaciju Sirije
"Sjetite se bivše Jugoslavije. Milošević je bio predsjednik, dogodili su se mirovni pregovori u Daytonu i postignut je sporazum. Milošević je i dalje bio predsjednik, ali to nije smetalo pravdi. Eto jednog primjera iz prošlosti", dodala je.
Prioritet je zaustavljanje rata
Del Ponte je bila glavna istražiteljica Haškog suda koji je 2002. počeo suditi Miloševiću, sedam godina nakon što je potpisao mirovni sporazum kojim je okončan rat u bivšoj Jugoslaviji. Milošević je umro u pritvoru 2006. ne dočekavši kraj suđenja.
SAD i europske zemlje ovog su tjedna ublažile zahtjev za trenutnim odlaskom Asada s vlasti rekavši da bi umjesto toga njegov odlazak mogao biti dio budućeg mirovnog sporazuma.
> Kerry: Asad mora otići, neka Rusija i Iran pomognu u mirnoj tranziciji
Upitana misli li da će ruka pravde stići i Asada, Del Ponte je rekla: "Da, to se mora učiniti".
Prioritet je zaustaviti rat, istaknula je Del Ponte, ali se nada da bi se i za Siriju mogao uspostaviti ad hoc sud poput onih za bivšu Jugoslaviju i Ruandu.
Takav bi sud trebalo osnovati Vijeće sigurnosti UN-a, no to uključuje rizik da ga blokiraju Rusija i Kina, dvije stalne članice vijeća koje su nekoliko puta uložile veto na UN-ove rezolucije koje su oštro kritizirale Asada.
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/carla-del-ponte-asada-ceka-sudbina-slobodana-milosevica-/843282.aspx
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god bless mr president Assad.
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Buahahahaahahaha...Taj voz je davnoooo prosao. Sto ste se izdrkavali, izdrkavali... Nema vise...
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Syrian Christians Look To Assad Regime For Protection From Jihadis
25 Mar 2015
The Syrian Christian community has always been an under-reported element of the civil war. Assad was inflicting gruesome horrors upon his citizens long before he uncorked his first tank of chemical weapons, taking him across a humanitarian “red line” that the world could not ignore, in part because that red line was meant as an excuse for ignoring atrocities the civilized world is not supposed to tolerate. Once the WMD forbidden zone was entered, it was no longer possible to overlook the lesser evils. The Syrian rebellion, on the other hand, began as the heroes in the Western world’s favored narrative of resistance against tyranny, only to be revealed as a jihadi jungle in which effective “moderate” forces that could be safely armed from the arsenal of democracy were hard to find. No one enjoys choosing sides in a conflict between villains and monsters.
Caught in the crossfire from Day One were Syria’s Christians, a minority Assad went to some lengths to protect. Dark interviewed a Christian community leader in Aleppo named Abu Fadi, and he was blunt about the situation his community faces: “There is no question at all about whom we support: the government, of course. It is the only force protecting us from the jihadists and extremists.”
Abu Fadi explained that resistance to the Assad regime was founded upon solid complaints at first, featuring protests against corruption and calls for reform, but the Christians soon concluded it was really about extremists seeking to take power for themselves, no matter how much damage they inflicted upon the country. “They soon showed their true faces, the religious extremism they were hiding. Anyone who took up arms against the state is wrong,” he declared.
He denied the notion that all the trouble is coming from foreign infiltrators such as al-Qaeda and ISIS, noting that local rebel units have also destroyed Christian homes and churches, and not just as collateral damage from shots fired at government forces. “They want to get rid of us, drive us from our lands that we have inhabited for centuries,” he asserted. “They have destroyed churches. Look at Kassab and Maaloula, do you need further proof?”
He’s referring to two towns where Syrian rebels drove out Christian populations. Kassab’s Armenian Christians say Turkish troops stood by and watched while Islamist rebels overran the town. Maaloula was reduced to rubble in the struggle between rebels who made a point of desecrating its historic churches, and Syrian government forces who presented their recapture of the city as evidence of Assad’s determination to protect religious minorities.
Unable to form their own effective militia units, as the Assyrian Christians have done, Aleppo’s Christians see enlisting with the Syrian military as their only option for self-defense. They appear acutely aware of how the outside world views them for throwing in with Assad. Dark’s narrative of Aleppo mentions that regime troops have been accused of looting towns they liberate from jihadist forces, but this is considered merely “annoying” compared to what rebel forces are prone to do when occupying Christian areas. The people he spoke with said they felt as if the very existence of their community was threatened, in a way no one could recall from before the rebellion began. They have memories of oppression, reminiscing darkly about times when it was extremely unwise to speak out against the government, but there is a difference between oppression and annihilation.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/25/syrian-christians-look-to-assad-regime-for-protection-from-jihadis/
25 Mar 2015
Al-Monitor delivers one of the most sobering assessments of the bloody mess in Syria to date, as author Edward Dark returns to his hometown of Aleppo for a look at the plight of the dwindling Christian community, and finds them turning to dictator Bashar al-Assad for protection from the jihadis fighting to overthrow him.
The Syrian Christian community has always been an under-reported element of the civil war. Assad was inflicting gruesome horrors upon his citizens long before he uncorked his first tank of chemical weapons, taking him across a humanitarian “red line” that the world could not ignore, in part because that red line was meant as an excuse for ignoring atrocities the civilized world is not supposed to tolerate. Once the WMD forbidden zone was entered, it was no longer possible to overlook the lesser evils. The Syrian rebellion, on the other hand, began as the heroes in the Western world’s favored narrative of resistance against tyranny, only to be revealed as a jihadi jungle in which effective “moderate” forces that could be safely armed from the arsenal of democracy were hard to find. No one enjoys choosing sides in a conflict between villains and monsters.
Caught in the crossfire from Day One were Syria’s Christians, a minority Assad went to some lengths to protect. Dark interviewed a Christian community leader in Aleppo named Abu Fadi, and he was blunt about the situation his community faces: “There is no question at all about whom we support: the government, of course. It is the only force protecting us from the jihadists and extremists.”
Abu Fadi explained that resistance to the Assad regime was founded upon solid complaints at first, featuring protests against corruption and calls for reform, but the Christians soon concluded it was really about extremists seeking to take power for themselves, no matter how much damage they inflicted upon the country. “They soon showed their true faces, the religious extremism they were hiding. Anyone who took up arms against the state is wrong,” he declared.
He denied the notion that all the trouble is coming from foreign infiltrators such as al-Qaeda and ISIS, noting that local rebel units have also destroyed Christian homes and churches, and not just as collateral damage from shots fired at government forces. “They want to get rid of us, drive us from our lands that we have inhabited for centuries,” he asserted. “They have destroyed churches. Look at Kassab and Maaloula, do you need further proof?”
He’s referring to two towns where Syrian rebels drove out Christian populations. Kassab’s Armenian Christians say Turkish troops stood by and watched while Islamist rebels overran the town. Maaloula was reduced to rubble in the struggle between rebels who made a point of desecrating its historic churches, and Syrian government forces who presented their recapture of the city as evidence of Assad’s determination to protect religious minorities.
Unable to form their own effective militia units, as the Assyrian Christians have done, Aleppo’s Christians see enlisting with the Syrian military as their only option for self-defense. They appear acutely aware of how the outside world views them for throwing in with Assad. Dark’s narrative of Aleppo mentions that regime troops have been accused of looting towns they liberate from jihadist forces, but this is considered merely “annoying” compared to what rebel forces are prone to do when occupying Christian areas. The people he spoke with said they felt as if the very existence of their community was threatened, in a way no one could recall from before the rebellion began. They have memories of oppression, reminiscing darkly about times when it was extremely unwise to speak out against the government, but there is a difference between oppression and annihilation.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/25/syrian-christians-look-to-assad-regime-for-protection-from-jihadis/
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Obama: Assad Protected Christians In Syria
In this photo taken on Sunday, April 20, 2014, and released on the official Facebook page of the Syrian Presidency, Syrian President Bashar Assad, right, checks a damaged church during his visit to the Christian village of Maaloula, near Damascus, Syria
US President Barack Obama surprised his visitors, the delegation of Eastern Christians patriarchs, on Thursday when he told them that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad “protected the Christians in Syria.”
Obama met with the delegation in the White House for 35 minutes, during which the patriarchs presented a paper in which they exposed the situation of Christians in the Middle East and the threats and challenges they are facing, due in part to the expansion of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militant group.
Sources told Al-Akhbar that the highlight of the meeting was when Obama said the following phrase: “We know that President Bashar al-Assad protected Christians in Syria.”
Obama then used the term “the Syrian government” instead of “regime,” which is usually used by the US to describe the government in Syria.
The confused attendees could not believe what they heard. However, one of the guests addressed Obama and said: “Then you should stop talking about a moderate Syrian opposition.”
Obama spoke about the planned US airstrikes in Syria, claiming that they will help “facilitate the (Syrian) political process.”
The US president then reiterated his country’s “support for the Lebanese army,” explaining that the “weaponry the US gave to the Lebanese army is the best response to ISIS in Lebanon.”
Meanwhile, Republican Texas senator Ted Cruz was booed off stage Wednesday night in Washington when he defended Israel at a gala sponsored by In Defense of Christians, a group whose objective is to focus public attention on the plight of persecuted Middle East Christian groups.
“Christians have no greater ally than Israel,” Cruz said, drawing a sharp response from the audience who started booing.
“Those who hate Israel hate America. Those who hate Jews hate Christians,” he continued. At that point, the booing got louder.
“If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you. Thank you and God bless you,” Cruz said before walking off stage.
Maronite Patriarch Cardinal Bechara Rai asked the attendees “not to to respond to Cruz and to focus on the conference and its objectives instead of individual statements.”
The Patriarch of Antioch and All the East and the spiritual leader of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, Gregory III Lahham, and Lebanon’s ambassador to Washington Antoine Shadid both withdrew from the dinner after Cruz attacked Hezbollah.
Lahham also refused to participate in a session about the situation of Christians in the Middle East because of its dubious objectives and problematic speakers.
Lahham found out that US state representative Chris Smith, who was scheduled to give a speech in the session, was planning on condemning Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, something that Lahham regarded as a departure from the conference’s objectives.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/obama-assad-protected-christians-syria/196480/
In this photo taken on Sunday, April 20, 2014, and released on the official Facebook page of the Syrian Presidency, Syrian President Bashar Assad, right, checks a damaged church during his visit to the Christian village of Maaloula, near Damascus, Syria
US President Barack Obama surprised his visitors, the delegation of Eastern Christians patriarchs, on Thursday when he told them that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad “protected the Christians in Syria.”
Obama met with the delegation in the White House for 35 minutes, during which the patriarchs presented a paper in which they exposed the situation of Christians in the Middle East and the threats and challenges they are facing, due in part to the expansion of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militant group.
Sources told Al-Akhbar that the highlight of the meeting was when Obama said the following phrase: “We know that President Bashar al-Assad protected Christians in Syria.”
Obama then used the term “the Syrian government” instead of “regime,” which is usually used by the US to describe the government in Syria.
The confused attendees could not believe what they heard. However, one of the guests addressed Obama and said: “Then you should stop talking about a moderate Syrian opposition.”
Obama spoke about the planned US airstrikes in Syria, claiming that they will help “facilitate the (Syrian) political process.”
The US president then reiterated his country’s “support for the Lebanese army,” explaining that the “weaponry the US gave to the Lebanese army is the best response to ISIS in Lebanon.”
Meanwhile, Republican Texas senator Ted Cruz was booed off stage Wednesday night in Washington when he defended Israel at a gala sponsored by In Defense of Christians, a group whose objective is to focus public attention on the plight of persecuted Middle East Christian groups.
“Christians have no greater ally than Israel,” Cruz said, drawing a sharp response from the audience who started booing.
“Those who hate Israel hate America. Those who hate Jews hate Christians,” he continued. At that point, the booing got louder.
“If you will not stand with Israel and the Jews, then I will not stand with you. Thank you and God bless you,” Cruz said before walking off stage.
Maronite Patriarch Cardinal Bechara Rai asked the attendees “not to to respond to Cruz and to focus on the conference and its objectives instead of individual statements.”
The Patriarch of Antioch and All the East and the spiritual leader of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, Gregory III Lahham, and Lebanon’s ambassador to Washington Antoine Shadid both withdrew from the dinner after Cruz attacked Hezbollah.
Lahham also refused to participate in a session about the situation of Christians in the Middle East because of its dubious objectives and problematic speakers.
Lahham found out that US state representative Chris Smith, who was scheduled to give a speech in the session, was planning on condemning Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, something that Lahham regarded as a departure from the conference’s objectives.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/obama-assad-protected-christians-syria/196480/
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Sta je sporno? Pa normalno je da se satanisti bore protiv crkve...
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http://rbth.co.uk/international/2015/09/21/interview_with_bashar_al-assad_4_key_points_49421.html
In an interview with Russian media published by Rossiyskaya Gazeta on September 16, Syrian president Bashar Al-Assad expressed his views on some of the major issues surrounding the crisis in Syria.
In an interview with Russian media published by Rossiyskaya Gazeta on September 16, Syrian president Bashar Al-Assad expressed his views on some of the major issues surrounding the crisis in Syria.
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Carla Del Ponte Da nije Hrvat ispao po tko zna koji put tada vrlo glup kad je formirao sud za bivšu Jugoslaviju i u startu imao stav kako je on isključen iz tog suda i procesuiranja... Eeeeee da...
Inače ovo smeće nešto govori, a ni riječi za sirijske i iračke kršćane. Koliko možeš biti proziran pa se pokazivati otvoreno svrstan kao sluga vraga.
Inače ovo smeće nešto govori, a ni riječi za sirijske i iračke kršćane. Koliko možeš biti proziran pa se pokazivati otvoreno svrstan kao sluga vraga.
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Fénix wrote:sirijske i iračke kršćane
Sirska katolička Crkva je jedna od Istočnih katoličkih Crkava u jedinstvu sa Svetom Stolicom u Rimu. U petnaest eparhija ima danas oko 160 tisuća vjernika.
Temelj bogoslužja Sirske katoličke Crkve je liturgija svetog Jakova, koju su smatra najstarijim oblikom bogoslužja kojega su koristile kršćanske zajednice u Jeruzalemu, Damasku i Antiohiji još u vrijeme kada su bili živi apostoli: naziv duguje apostolu sv. Jakovu "bratu Gospodnjem" (bio je bratić Isusa Krista), prvom biskupu Jeruzalema. Često se ta bogoslužna tradicija naziva i "Antiohijski obred", jer je patrijaršijsko sjedište kršćana u tom dijelu svijeta nosilo naziv "Antiohijski patrijarhat" (makar je sjedište uglavnom bilo u Damasku, najvažnijem gradu Sirije i sjedištu - uz sam Jeruzalem - najstarije kršćanske zajednice).
Najznačajniji grad naseljen sirskim katolicima je Bakhdida (Baghdeda, Qaraqosh, Karakosh ili Al-Hamdaniya) u blizini Mosula na sjeveru Iraka; gdje od oko 35.000 stanovnika ima 96% sirskih katolika (preostali stanovnici su sirski pravoslavni kršćani). U kolovozu 2014. godine je ekstremna islamistička parovojska ISIS-a zauzela grad, te je cjelokupno stanovništvo - te oko 15.000 kršćana koji su zadnjih mjeseci onamo bili sklonili pred ISIS-om iz okolnog podrućja - izbjeglo na područja sjevernog iraka koja su ostala pod vojnom kontrolom snaga Kurdske autonomije na sjeveru Iraka.
Zadnjih godina su sirski kršćani u Iraku i Siriji izloženi ekstremno teškim okolnostima, koje prijete samom njihovom opstanku u to dijelu svijeta.[3] Simbol njihovog stradanja je napad sunitskih ekstremista na sirsko katoličku katedralu Naše Gospe od Spasa u Bagdadu 31. listopada 2010. godine, gdje su napadači zauzeli crkvu sa oko 100 vjernika koji su sudjelovali u bogoslužju: od toga je pobijeno čak njih 58, uključujući svećenika koji je vodio misu, te drugoga koji je ispovijedao vjernike.
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Sirijska pravoslavna Crkva je drevnoistočna crkva koja potiče od drevne Antiohijske patrijaršije. Od nje se odvojila posle 451. godine, posle Sabora u Halkedonu. Crkva je poznata i kao Jakobitska crkva.
Ima svoj začetak u monofizitskoj grupi u Siriji, koja se nezavisno okupila oko antiohijskog patrijarha Petra 455. godine. Poznata je pod imenom „sirijsko-jakovitska“, po episkopu Jakovu Zanzali ili Baradaju, koji je oko 540. godine igrao značajnu ulogu u njenom organizovanju. Posle progonstva iz Antiohije (Arapi su osvojili Antiohiju 638), crkva premešta svoje sedište u Mardin (današnja Turska), zatim u Homs (Sirija), a 1959. godine u Damask. Sirijski monofiziti služe Liturgiju Svetoga Jakova na sirijskom. Od 878. godine sirijsko-jakovitski episkopi nose titulu Ignjatije. Sedište Crkve nalazi se u Damasku.
Ima svoj začetak u monofizitskoj grupi u Siriji, koja se nezavisno okupila oko antiohijskog patrijarha Petra 455. godine. Poznata je pod imenom „sirijsko-jakovitska“, po episkopu Jakovu Zanzali ili Baradaju, koji je oko 540. godine igrao značajnu ulogu u njenom organizovanju. Posle progonstva iz Antiohije (Arapi su osvojili Antiohiju 638), crkva premešta svoje sedište u Mardin (današnja Turska), zatim u Homs (Sirija), a 1959. godine u Damask. Sirijski monofiziti služe Liturgiju Svetoga Jakova na sirijskom. Od 878. godine sirijsko-jakovitski episkopi nose titulu Ignjatije. Sedište Crkve nalazi se u Damasku.
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No to Carli del Ponte nije bitno - ZNA SE I ZAŠTO!
Podsjetimo se Hrvatske i nje u ne tako davna vremena.
Podsjetimo se Hrvatske i nje u ne tako davna vremena.
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Re: Del Ponte: Ruka pravde stići će sirijskog predsjednika Bashara al-Assada
Članak iz siječnja 2013.:
http://www.vecernji.hr/svijet/sirijski-su-krscani-uz-assada-a-sada-im-prijeti-progon-500038
http://www.vecernji.hr/svijet/sirijski-su-krscani-uz-assada-a-sada-im-prijeti-progon-500038
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jebiga, zena je sa Olimpa
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Pa ta se kurbetina toliko puta diskvalificirala da me čudi kako se
uopće usudi javiti.
uopće usudi javiti.
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2014-04-20
Re: Del Ponte: Ruka pravde stići će sirijskog predsjednika Bashara al-Assada
Pranje mozga se nastavlja. Danas u vijestima o potrebi sklanjanja diktatora Assada i u nastavku o potrebi zblizavanja sa Kinom. Tstststststss
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