Došao Ramo i Moodys ruši rejting

http://hr.n1info.com/a190597/Vijesti/Moody-s-ponovno-srusio-kreditni-rejting-Agrokora.html

Alvarez je prenio kako stvari stoje

Ramljak doveo odvjetnički ured čiji je vlasnik najbolji prijatelj Tedeschija.
Petrov bi rasprodavao i naređivao tko treba kupiti dijelove, jasno je da tu nema kruha.

Sabina Spielrein wrote:Ramljak doveo odvjetnički ured čiji je vlasnik najbolji prijatelj Tedeschija.
Petrov bi rasprodavao i naređivao tko treba kupiti dijelove, jasno je da tu nema kruha.

Pa on je i pisao zakon, a ovo sve ce svejedno zavrsiti kolapsom sa ili bez Bože

Strane agencije bi trebale imati vise povjerenja u Hr pristup rjesavanju problema. Na kraju krajeva imamo vec skoro tri desetljeca iskustva u tome :))

Pa ti Mudiz stvarno pojma nemaju...cijela država je eto stala iza posrnulog giganta a oni tako...pa nismo Ruanda...ili da?

MaximusDecimusMiridije wrote:Strane agencije bi trebale imati vise povjerenja u Hr pristup rjesavanju problema. Na kraju krajeva imamo vec skoro tri desetljeca iskustva u tome :))

svaka zemlja ima svije specifičnosti koje treba uvažavati i nadasve njegovati.

nego atila, kako država može prodati dijelove koncerna koji vrijede i njihove dugove prebaciti na sam agrokor, nisu li tu oštećeni vjerovnici koji će za 15 mjeseci dobiti očerupanu kompaniju?

naime banke su dale lovu agrokoru koji je u sastavu imao zvijezdu, janicu, mercator, ledo, itd.

država to proda i da rusima recimo za 15 mjeseci konzum bez love i bez ičega, kako to pravno stoji mislim da to može rezultirati jebačkom odštetom

marcellus wrote:nego atila, kako država može prodati dijelove koncerna koji vrijede i njihove dugove prebaciti na sam agrokor, nisu li tu oštećeni vjerovnici koji će za 15 mjeseci dobiti očerupanu kompaniju?

kako država može zakonom skinuti blokadu najvećoj tvrtki u državi ai dužniku, a u isto vrijeme jebat majku one koje su ju pokušali blokirati? Ovo je sumrak ustava te trgovačkog prava koje u biti nikad kod nas nije bilo ništa a sada je povaljano u prezle od goavana.

Ovo što kažeš je unajmanje k.d. oštećivanje vjerovnika o arbitražnim odlukama da ne govorim ovo je krađa, ali no nije puno bolje bilo niti sa predstečajnim pa je prošlo, kod nas sve prođe marcele jer je narod glupi kmet

marcellus wrote:naime banke su dale lovu agrokoru koji je u sastavu imao zvijezdu, janicu, mercator, ledo, itd.

država to proda i da rusima recimo za 15 mjeseci konzum bez love i bez ičega, kako to pravno stoji mislim da to može rezultirati jebačkom odštetom

Platit će oni bankama, jer u surprotnome RH-a se izlaže teškim tužbama pred arbitražama, osim ako računaju da će biti rata sa Rusima hehehe

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Drazen Katic · 
Hochschule für Wirtschaftskunde Zagreb
Americka kreditna agencija Moody`s rado snizava ili dize rejting razlicitim tvrtkama posebice ako se nalaze izvan SAD-a.

Postavlja se pitanje kompetentnosti kreditne agencije iz Amerike, posto je za pretpostaviti da ona nema svoje analiticare koji se danas nalaze u koncernu "Agrokor" te koji proucavaju mogucnost stecaja ili bankrota hrvatskog koncerna. Takodjer nema ni svoje analiticare u Zagrebu koji mogu na hrvatskom jeziku tumaciti i razumijeti hrvatske zakone vezane za gospodarstvo.

Vrlo je interesantno da ne postoji (koliko je meni poznato) kreditna agencija u Europskoj uniji koja redovito procijenjuje rejting americkih tvrtki i koncerana u Americi!

Bilo kako bilo, koncern Agrokor je kako u proslosti tako i danas postavljao svoje ljude na kljucne pozicije u drzavnim institucijama te vladi Republike Hrvatske.

Gospodin Rohatinski, bivsi i sadasnji zaposlenik Agrokora koji je obnasao funkciju guvernera Narodne Banke Republike Hrvatske te ministar Maric, koji danas vodi hrvatsko ministarstvo financija.

Medjutim i u europskoj politici to nije strana tema. U mnogim europskim koncernima u izvrsnim odborima sjede politicari.

Takodjer menadzeri konzultiraju politicare i vrse direktan utjecaj na izvrsnu vlast. Sjetimo se samo gospodina Hartza koji je iz VW -a direktno utjecao na donosenej 4 socijalna zakona za vrijeme vlasti gospodina Schrödera u Saveznoj Republici Njemackoj.

Iako je gospodin Hartz sam zloupotrebljavao menadzersku funkciju u koncernu VW, to nije smetalo da odredi sudbinu 2 milijuna nezaposlenih u Njemackoj.

Mijesanje ekonomije u politiku i politike u ekonomiju je danas postalo pravilo, medjutim mora se biti vrlo oprezan jer u pravili narod uvijek izvuce "tanji kraj"!

Ugodan dan i lijepi Uskrsnji blagdani!

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Miro Pitinac · 
Pittington
Ako je lex Agrokor najbolji put prema bankrotu, neka ga. Ruski međed na srpskoj strani je najgora solucija koja nas može zadesiti. Treba se boriti da se srpski element vrati s onu stranu Drine, a ne ga još više učvršćivati u povijesnim hrvatskim krajevima. Bankrot Agrokora treba i može biti oružje ne samo protiv srba, već i protiv slovenaca i uz inat tim zlotvorima i mrziteljima Hrvata neka se dogodi. 
Naravno da bi Alvarez napravio što je najbolje za kompaniju odnosno za ruse, očistio je od svih balasta i ono najvrjednije, na što su rusi bacili oko, pripalo bi njima, a onda bi nam dovukli direktore srbe, geđovane, koji bi se iživljavali nad našim radnicima. 
Putin je zlo, srbi su zlo, srbi i rusi zajedno u hr. jesu pakao za Hrvate. 

Gušter kad je u životnoj opasnosti odbaci svoj rep, žrtvuje ga, tako na ovu situaciju i mi trebamo gledati i učiti od guštera.
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Konzumiranje alkohola i Ckve u Hrvata:



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igara bez kruha Alvarez = ludi Andrija III mađaron , nasmješena ministrica kao da je došla s Martinja poručuje –pipl mas tras as ,prijavljena za 180 MILIJARDI kuna štete državnog proračuna.
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Marcelina nikada nije posvetio dio svog vremena razumijevanju misli velikana Ante Starčevića koji je odbijao slavoservluk kao ovi politikanti iz PARTIJA gedžavu -PROSRBSKE -HDZ ili DRUGE SRBSKE SDP .
Prvi govor u Saboru koji mu je u Hrvatskoj donio veliku popularnost pokazao je veličinu misli političara za sva vremena - "Ja ne ću dokazivati da Hrvatska može doista biti državom za sebe, nego samo velim, da naša domovina, kako je i nekad bila, tako i danas može biti samostalnom; ja sam htio dokazati, da mi, ako smo muževi slobode i napretka, moramo nastojati izbiti našem narodu iz glave uvjerenje, koje su mu narinule Austrija i Rusija, naime vjeru da mi, uzdržavatelji Austrije, da smo tako slabi, da ne možemo drugačije, živjeti nego kao nečiji robovi. Mi moramo Hrvatima dokazati, da je robu jednako u američkoj republici ili austrijskoj ili ruskoj despociji." " ... U ostalom ja sudim, da mi ne smijemo toliko gledati na hirove Austrije, koliko na sveta prava naše kraljevine. Mi nemamo više ništa što bi nam još Austrija mogla oteti. A da Ii Austrija ima što izgubiti, na to neka pazi Austrija".
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"a onda bi nam dovukli direktore srbe, geđovane, koji bi se iživljavali nad našim radnicima. 
Putin je zlo, srbi su zlo, srbi i rusi zajedno u hr. jesu pakao za Hrvate. 

Gušter kad je u životnoj opasnosti odbaci svoj rep, žrtvuje ga, tako na ovu situaciju i mi trebamo gledati i učiti od guštera."


heheheh esencija katoličke uljudbe

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Rating Action: Moody's downgrades Agrokor's rating to Caa2; negative outlook
Global Credit Research - 11 Apr 2017
London, 11 April 2017 -- Moody's Investors Service has downgraded Croatian retailer and food manufacturer Agrokor D.D.'s corporate family rating (CFR) to Caa2 from Caa1 and its probability of default rating (PDR) to Ca-PD from Caa1-PD. The outlook on the company's ratings remains negative.

"Our decision to downgrade Agrokor's rating reflects its filing for restructuring under Croatian law, which in our view makes a default highly likely," says Vincent Gusdorf, a Vice President -- Senior Analyst at Moody's. "It also takes into account uncertainties around the restructuring process, as creditors' ability to get their money back hinges on numerous factors that will become apparent over time."

Moody's has also downgraded the senior unsecured rating assigned to the notes issued by Agrokor due in 2019 and 2020 to Caa2 from Caa1.

RATINGS RATIONALE

Today's downgrade reflects Agrokor's decision to file for restructuring on 7 April 2017 in accordance with the Croatian Law on Extraordinary Management Proceedings in Companies of Systemic Significance. In Moody's view, this course of action implies a high likelihood of default that could have negative effects for existing creditors, although the details of the process are not yet known. The company has also changed its CEO as well as part of the management board.

These decisions follow a deterioration of Agrokor's relationships with suppliers which has significantly impaired its liquidity. The HRK2,286 million (EUR307 million) of cash and cash equivalents reported at the end of September are not sufficient to finance even a portion of payables, which amounted then to HRK16,197 million (EUR2,175 million) at that time.

To address these liquidity issues, Agrokor is seeking additional loans from banks. The company is currently negotiating with its lenders to obtain secured financing, which would create subordination for existing unsecured debt holders.

Recovery prospects on Agrokor's existing debt will depend on a variety of factors. Strained relationships with suppliers could affect the company's market shares and earnings generation. Moody's will also monitor upcoming changes in the capital structure. The CFR could be downgraded further if future developments in the restructuring process lead to lower recovery prospects for creditors.

Although Agrokor has no debt maturity before September 2018, when EUR150 million of bank debt will become due, it must service the interest of its debt. This includes the coupons of its bonds, which are scheduled on 1 May for the EUR300 million notes maturing in 2019 and on 1 August for the EUR325 million and $300 million notes due in 2020. A missed interest payment would represent a default under Moody's definition.

WHAT COULD CHANGE THE RATINGS UP/DOWN

The negative outlook reflects the high risk of default arising from the company's decision to restructure its debt. It also factors in the uncertainties around the form that the restructuring would take, its timing, and its impact on Agrokor's earnings. This creates significant downside risk for the recovery prospects of creditors, although its magnitude will become apparent over time.

Further downward pressure could materialize if Agrokor fails to service the interest on its debt or if Moody's believes that there will be a greater loss for creditors than is currently assumed.

Upside potential is unlikely at this time. In the longer term, Moody's could upgrade Agrokor's rating if it is able to restore an adequate liquidity profile and improve its financial structure by reducing its debt.

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https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-downgrades-Agrokors-rating-to-Caa2-negative-outlook--PR_364764

https://www.moodys.com/researchandratings/country/croatia/-/042015/042015/-/-1/0/-/0/-/-/-/-1/-/-/-/en/global/pdf/-/rra

Ma Moodys su đubretari, ali ovdje nemaju aposlutno nikakav interes, dapače, a vjerujem da su tjeranjem Alavareza i tkz. zakonom samo tko zna koji put dobili potvrdu da je ovdje Đibuti od države