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Post by epikur37 Thu 6 Apr - 17:31

Radikalna misao ukazuje na gubitak smisla politike povrgnute ekonomskoj logici / Ono što je danas radikalno sutra može postati općeprihvaćeno pa čak i dio „politički korektnog“ ponašanja / Danas uobičajena podjela na desnicu i ljevicu povijesno je potrošena jer i parlamentarna ljevica i parlamentarna desnica podupiru globalni neoliberalni poredak / U cijeloj je Europi već godinama na djelu proces rastvaranja nacionalnih identiteta / Hrvatski identitet tijekom povijesti često se afirmirao samo reaktivno, u odnosu na ugrozu izvana / Mnogi europski intelektualci, lijevi i desni, pokušali su razumjeti i objasniti fenomen ratova na području bivše Jugoslavije iz ptičje perspektive, iz pariških kružoka i europskih salona, često kontaminirani velikosrpskim i projugoslavenskim vizurama / Raspad Jugoslavije i legitimni hrvatski obrambeni rat bili su nužan korektiv katastrofalnim višenacionalnim teritorijalnim i geopolitičkim rješenjima versajskog poretka


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Post by epikur37 Thu 6 Apr - 17:40

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I sjajan Nemecov rad o Andriću...

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Post by RayMabus Thu 6 Apr - 18:06

Kad govorimo o nužnosti izgradnje europskog jedinstva, treba imati na umu da se takav pravedan i stabilan poredak može jedino temeljiti na dobrovoljnom pristanku suverenih nacija i država. No nakon pada Berlinskog zida tranzicijski koncept u svim postkomunističkim zemljama, pod krinkom liberalizacije i privatizacije, kao i pod monetarnim pritiskom, omogućio je akumulaciju rentnog kapitala u rukama transnacionalnih korporacija i bankarskih središta. Lokalne oligarhije, koje su se usput obogatile, bile su tek modus operandi toga tranzicijskog mehanizma. Tranzicija uvijek implicira prijenos kapitala iz jednog središta u drugo, nasuprot konceptu transformacije, koji pretpostavlja transformiranje, ali i zadržavanje nacionalnog rentnog kapitala unutar suverene države. Zbog toga se i jest dogodila tranzicija, a ne transformacija, i zbog toga se još nije dogodio proces suočavanja s komunističkom prošlošću, kao ni lustracija.
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Post by RayMabus Thu 6 Apr - 18:09

Malo mi je kasno pa nisam sve procitao nego samo ovako na brzinu ...ovo šta sam izdvojio mi je upalo u oko. Zanimljivo.

Nismo prošli transformaciju nego tranziciju ...sve lijepo objasnio kao i da to mora biti dobrovoljno a ne nasilno.

Uglavnom jako dobro.



Kad govorimo o nužnosti izgradnje europskog jedinstva, treba imati na umu da se takav pravedan i stabilan poredak može jedino temeljiti na dobrovoljnom pristanku suverenih nacija i država

No nakon pada Berlinskog zida tranzicijski koncept u svim postkomunističkim zemljama, pod krinkom liberalizacije i privatizacije, kao i pod monetarnim pritiskom, omogućio je akumulaciju rentnog kapitala u rukama transnacionalnih korporacija i bankarskih središta. Lokalne oligarhije, koje su se usput obogatile, bile su tek modus operandi toga tranzicijskog mehanizma

. Tranzicija uvijek implicira prijenos kapitala iz jednog središta u drugo, nasuprot konceptu transformacije, koji pretpostavlja transformiranje, ali i zadržavanje nacionalnog rentnog kapitala unutar suverene države. Zbog toga se i jest dogodila tranzicija, a ne transformacija, i zbog toga se još nije dogodio proces suočavanja s komunističkom prošlošću, kao ni lustracija.
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Post by RayMabus Thu 6 Apr - 18:14

U pravu je , svaka od ove tri recenice tj cijeline su mu na mjestu ....transformacija svijesti ...do toga nije došlo osim pojedinacno nego se samo desila tranzicija.

Transformacija svijesti se postiže ucenjem a da bi netko nešto nauico prvo treba skužiti da nezna tj osvijestit se ...al eto mi kao sve znamo pa šta ce to nama ...zato nam i je ovako.

Đabe meni postat Teslu i Sokrata i govorit di ce nas odvest matrijahalna imperija ...sve oni znaju , šta ce oni to ucit ....a eto nemoj ...cekaj da krahira natalitet u Evropi pa ce bit a šta a kako.
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Post by Guest Thu 6 Apr - 18:46

Ako te volja učiti evo ti zanimljivog štiva mnoge će ti stvari postati jasnije što se zapravo događa u RH-NDH i u ostalim zemljama. pogled iz malo drukčije perspektive realističnije ali i surovije.

djelić uvoda cijeli podugačak tekst je na linku ispod

The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide

What Autogenocide Means

Auto comes from the Greek reflexive pronoun while genocide comes from the Latin words gens meaning "race, tribe" and -cidere meaning "kill." (source: http://wikipedia.org )

American Autogenocide is the deliberate, systematic and legal murder of American citizens by socially-engineering the die-off of populations that are “problematic” for the interests of wealth and power. Most victims prematurely die from social forces targeted at them to cause them to wear out by stress.  This process is called "Weathering Away" or "Attrition By Stress."

Although it has to be “legal,” autogenocide is always committed under the radar so the media won’t be compelled to report it and so the people won’t see it or understand it. More, the genocide is blamed on the victims and their deaths are hidden-attributed-to other causes rather than the primary one of autogenocide.

What is different between this genocide and other genocides is that this unique genocide doesn't produce mass graves.  Instead, the victims are spread over a large geographic area and buried singly, thereby hiding the body count.  This keeps the deaths sanitized and homogenized.  It also keeps the autogenocide surreal; thus enabling the village to deny It's existence when clues to It's existence are ambundant and abundantly transparent.

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Quality of Life is very important: read on.

Quality of Life affects Life Outcome. If Quality of Life is high, people are usually healthier and live long. If Quality of Life is low or non-existent, many people will get sick and usually die from premature death. Bring down the overall quality of life in individuals/communities/groups and make sure that Quality of Life does not go up even an increment, and people will start dying in droves. Every professional politician knows this.

AXIOM OF BIOLOGICAL STRESS FROM OPPRESSION.

The victims are always blamed  ("poor life choices" when they had no choices or only a choice of bad choices). They are blamed for their stress when the stressors are external and almost all are socially engineered, and socially engineered to kill.

When safety nets are gutted and politicians/economists/business leaders/sociologists/urban planners/scientists  know it will result in the deaths of countless citizens, that is called socially engineering and "framing" social forces to target and kill the Untermenschen.

When politicians won't or refuse enact national healthcare insurance, knowing full well that it will result in premature death for a large number of people with no or low socio-economic value, that is called socially engineering autogenocide.  It doesn't matter that the politicians are owned by pharmaceutical companies and private health care groups through campaign donations.  When you enact legislation knowing full well that it will lead to enormous amounts of preventable death and you vote for it, you are committing autogenocide.

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Post by Guest Thu 6 Apr - 19:58

The New Romans ( The New Croatian elite ) use the modern tactic of Silent Siege (Silent Slaughter) , which indirectly kills people. Isolate and starve people economically, physically, mentally, psychologically, materially, artistically, financially, spiritually, socially, and culturally (except for the nationalism and christian cultures that are toxic in themselves), and predictably, people will die of premature deaths from the stress caused by the isolation and starvation. Its not immediate death like the Nazi Holocaust, but it achieves the same result.

The media continues to keep the autogenocide hidden.

High stress factors lead to high mortality rates. Unleash ruthless, deadly social forces against certain individuals, groups, neighborhoods and/or communities and they will begin to implode. Every social worker, sociologist, psychologist, doctor, nurse, police, urban planner, politician, historian, military strategist, so forth knows this.
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Post by Guest Thu 6 Apr - 20:43

American Autogenocide Told From An Eye Witness

It was a Minnesota State Representative who told me about autogenocide. This happened in August of 1998. I called him at his home. Many times, I’d call him about news reports I had seen on television announcing that the “government” reported a surplus of jobs and a shortage of workers. This was almost the daily news in the late 1990’s. Chronically under-employed, I wanted to know where these jobs were. Nobody ever seemed to know. When I’d call the television station or Job Service and actually talked with a live being on the other end of the phone (most of the time I would be forwarded to an answering machine), someone would promise to call back and never did.

Almost ten years later, most people know that it was all propaganda. The abundance of jobs that the government and media constantly told the village about didn’t exist.

When I called the politician this time, I was worried about the upcoming vote to continuance of the end of welfare. The state government was forcing the most poorest and helpless women in the village to work, when work was almost impossible to find and when it was found, it paid minimum-wage, was part-time and offered no fringe benefits. Armed with research I had been doing, I told him there was not enough work for all the workers in the village.

"How are these women and their children supposed to survive on part-time work and no welfare?" I asked. "Don't you know that many women and children are going to die if you do this?"

I could hear his frustration with me as the tone of his voice changed on the other end of the phone line. Exasperated, he told me, "Okay, Martha, I am going to tell you something off the record. If you ever tell anyone, I will deny it." I listened carefully as he proceeded to tell me something that shocked me all the way to the core of my being.

First, he asked me, "What do you know about farming?"

I replied, "What does farming have to do with women not getting work?"

He replied, "A lot and I'll get to that in a moment." Then he told me that economists, industry and politicians knew that the 'flush' economy was going to last until around the year 2000 (he was right), and then 'welfare reform' would have to be shelved because the more privileged people in society would demand all the remaining jobs of a slagging economy. This didn’t happen because the Will of the Elite became too powerful and entrenched, plus the virtual war on “terror” that sucks all the money out of the treasury and spent on the new police state instead of citizens who are going to die from governmental neglect.

The local politician told me that in the interim, someone, namely women and children, had to be sacrificed. Yes, he said, politicians knew that some innocent people were going to die, but 'welfare reform' was a 'red button' political issue that 'had to be addressed' because the middle-class and the upper-classes did not want to pay taxes to support disadvantaged people. Therefore, some of the most powerless people had been targeted for elimination from society.

"It is no big deal," he told me, "Every society does it. Think of it in these terms: Farmers don't keep animals that cost more than they produce. People in power have to make those same decisions regarding people just like farmers have to make the same decisions regarding livestock. Someone has to control the size of the herd. Unlike animals, it is the powerless, not the sick or lame, that are selected to be removed.

Politicians have to make difficult, executive decisions for their constituents, even if it seems unfair. That's what they are elected for and they are giving the voters what they really want. If politicians refuse to make these decisions, they won't get reelected. There are lots of people willing to run for office and make those executive decisions if the current politicians won’t do it. These choices are natural and a fact of life, Martha. I told you, every society does it."

Surprised and confused, I replied, "Wait a minute, are you telling me that our society intentionally kills our own people, even women and children, only because the wealthy don't want to share? That these deaths are intentionally planned? Don't the wealthy know that poverty is one of the 'natural' byproducts of capitalism, that capitalism depends on an official 'average' five percent unemployed to hold it up? Are you telling me that all politicians, local ones to national ones, not only know about this murder but willingly participate in it?"

"All of them know about it, Martha," he told me. "Now you do, too. Don't ever call me again and don't ever quote me. I'll deny I ever told you this."

"Wait!" I said, "How you can be a part of this and live with your conscience?"

He hung up on me. I tried to call him several times after that and he would never talk to me.
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Post by Guest Fri 7 Apr - 4:56

epikur37 wrote:Radikalna misao ukazuje na gubitak smisla politike povrgnute ekonomskoj logici / Ono što je danas radikalno sutra može postati općeprihvaćeno pa čak i dio „politički korektnog“ ponašanja / Danas uobičajena podjela na desnicu i ljevicu povijesno je potrošena jer i parlamentarna ljevica i parlamentarna desnica podupiru globalni neoliberalni poredak / U cijeloj je Europi već godinama na djelu proces rastvaranja nacionalnih identiteta / Hrvatski identitet tijekom povijesti često se afirmirao samo reaktivno, u odnosu na ugrozu izvana / Mnogi europski intelektualci, lijevi i desni, pokušali su razumjeti i objasniti fenomen ratova na području bivše Jugoslavije iz ptičje perspektive, iz pariških kružoka i europskih salona, često kontaminirani velikosrpskim i projugoslavenskim vizurama / Raspad Jugoslavije i legitimni hrvatski obrambeni rat bili su nužan korektiv katastrofalnim višenacionalnim teritorijalnim i geopolitičkim rješenjima versajskog poretka


http://www.matica.hr/vijenac/602/Ima%20li%20i%C4%8Dega%20izme%C4%91u%20ljevice%20i%20desnice%3F/

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Nastavak na linku, matica hrvatska nakon ugašenog vjesnika je jedina obala gdje se može doplivati i razmisliti.

Pijuckam vino, nisam pročitao cijeli intervju, otprije Juru cijenim a napose njegovu navezanost na Benoista i francuske konzervativce...autentični europski duh...

Pa autenticni europski duh je nasusno potreban, i to ne samo vise Europi. :)
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