Totalno odlepili:Rusi šalju migove Srbiji jer postoji sumnja da Hrvatska napadne Srbiju

http://www.informer.rs/vesti/politika/107985/EVO-STA-HRVATE-SVRBI-Index-PRETNJA-SRBIJE-Rusi-salju-migove-Beograd-zbog-Hrvatske

koja paranoja... ...

http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/vojni-strucnjak-o-ruskom-naoruzavanje-srbije-migovi-su-mocno-pojacanje-mi-jedva-cuvamo-nase-nebo/937642.aspx

Kad dođu , ako dođu onda cu i komentirati a ovako mogu samo komentirati da se pričalo o šest a sad o četri ....

Nas Hrvate će najlakše nagovoriti da ih napadnemo. Šiptari neće, oni su zajebani.

Neće valjda Amerika dozvoliti Rusku guberniju u sred Europe?

Vranje je u uopasnosti, što jes jes.

crvenkasti wrote:

Neće valjda Amerika dozvoliti Rusku guberniju u sred Europe?

NIste nikome zanimljivi ...s Rusima ili bez njih.

Stizu u martu 6 komada mig29.

Serbinho-3 wrote:Stizu u martu 6 komada mig29.

..oma'r da smo se skrili u misje rupe...

Serbinho-3 wrote:Stizu u martu 6 komada mig29.

Sad pricaju o samo četri .....moguce da ono šta sam komentira prije da tu ima puno dvosjeda a da to Srbiji netreba pa onda uzimaju samo jednosjede tj borbene.

RayMabus wrote:

Serbinho-3 wrote:Stizu u martu 6 komada mig29.

Sad pricaju o samo četri .....moguce da ono šta sam komentira prije da tu ima puno dvosjeda a da to Srbiji netreba pa onda uzimaju samo jednosjede tj borbene.

ne treba njima nis...sto ce im to..ajd da je nekom od koristi ovima nije..bog te nemarad 1991 su imali 200 aparata na lageru i to dosta novih Mig-29...pa su ih izgubili petnaestak komada sto tu sto u bosni..nije to za njih..njima daj topove,vbr-ove,minobacace i rokaj masovno po civilnim ciljevima pa motzda koja pogodi protivnika..

Ako bi se među tih 6 primeraka našla i verzija 9-13 onda je potreba za navedenom opremom još veća jer se ova varijanta ne nalazi u inventaru RV i PVO. 9-13 se dosta razlikuje od 9-12B, mnogi sistemi su potpuno drugačiji a aktivni piloti bi morali na obuku za ovu verziju.
Nezvanično, Srbija bi dobila jedan 9-12, tri aviona 9-13 i dva dvoseda 9-51 koji bi došli iz baze Milerovo gde je avione koristio 31. gardijski lovački avijacijski puk. Dakle nije reč o avionima koji su modernizovani na standard MiG-29SE ili SM ili SMT (za dvosede UBM) – takvi avioni bi koštali mnogo više, od nekoliko desetina pa i do 100 miliona evra sa obukom, logistikom i naoružanjem.

http://tangosix.rs/2016/18/11/analiza-donacija-ruskih-mig-ova-29-kao-spas-za-srpsku-lovacku-avijaciju/

Serbinho-3 wrote:Stizu u martu 6 komada mig29.

...'ko ce gorivo platit?

tri aviona 9-13

The Mikoyan MiG-29 (9-13) and MiG-29S (9-13S) 'Fulcrum-C'

NATO allocated the new reporting name 'Fulcrum-C' for aircraft fitted with a bulged and extended spine, which reportedly houses both fuel and avionics, and which may also be applied through retrofit. Internal fuel is increased by provision of larger No. 1 fuel tank, though different sources disagree as to the size of the increase (75, 130, 175 or 240 litres/20, 34, 46 or 63 US gal, according to Mikoyan documents). Soviet sources suggest that the 'Fulcrum-C' is still simply designated MiG-29, although the nickname 'Gorbatov' (hunchback) is commonly used.
One of the MiG-29S prototypes, this aircraft has a modified flight control system and upgraded radar, plus provision for Western avionics and underwing fuel tanks. A staged programme of modifications will allow the aircraft to carry up to 4000 kg of external stores. An inflight-refuelling probe and laser-, TV- and radar-guided ASMs will be added from 1995.
The first 'fatbacked' MiG-29 was 9-13, the second pre-production aircraft, which first flew on 23 December 1980, in the hands of V.M. Gorbunov. At one time the 'Fulcrum-C' seemed to be slowly replacing the 'Fulcrum-A' in VVS service, bu the two types continued in production alongside one another and often serve in the same units (occasionally with the very early ventral-finned MiG-29s). Pilots report that apart from endurance, there is no difference in flying/operating characteristics, although some sources suggest that the 'Fulcrum-C' has an enhanced ground attack capability and/or provision for an active jammer. Certainly the 9-13 has redesigned wingtips which appear to accomodate new RWR antennas. No 'hunchbacked' 'Fulcrum-Cs' have been exported yet, though Malaysia's MiG-29s may prove to be based on the 'Fulcrum-C'.
The unique contours of the 'Fulcrum-C's enlarged fuselage spine led to the allocation of new NATO reporting name, although the OKB designation is unchanged.
The 9-13 forms the basis of the improved MiG-29S (9-13S), which was designed as an increased-capability version of the standard MiG-29. According to Mikoyan, the MiG-29S represents "what happened when we squeezed all we could from the basic MiG-29 airframe." The new variant has a new modified flight control system, using small computers to improve stability and controllability, and the control surfaces have greater deflection. Alpha and g limits are increased. All MiG-29S features can be incorporated by upgrading existing 'Fulcrum-Cs', and MAPO is aggressively marketing a similar upgrade for export 'Fulcrum-As'.
The MiG-29S introduces revised radar/weapons system algorithms and software (and it is believed that processing capacity has been increased) to allow for the simultaneous tracking and engagement of multiple targets. The modified radar is redesignated N-019M. Operational capability has been enhanced by fitting a new sighting system, and more recently by making provision for the active homing AAM-AE 'AMRAAMski'. The first MiG-29S made its maiden flight during 1984, and three prototypes were followed by new production aircraft and conversions. Two polk (squadrons) are in service.
Although the spine of the 'Fulcrum-C' is considerably enlarged, it contains only 75-240 litres of extra fuel.
The designation MiG-29SE has been applied to an export version of the MiG-29S. This has a slightly downgraded radar (the N-019ME) which retains multiple-target tracking and which may give compatibility with AAM-AE. An aircraft displayed at Le Bourget in June 1993 was not a MiG-29SE, but was a standard MiG-29 variant plumbed for the carriage of underwing fuel tanks, but this is untrue, since many Soviet 'Fulcrum-As' have been seen carrying these for ferry flights. The MiG-29S may, however, be the first variant stressed to carry underwing tanks in combat, or to have provision for extra pylons (like the MiG-29M and the MiG-29K) to allow tanks to be carried without sacrificing weapons, and is the first export model offered with underwing tanks. External warload is doubled by the simple expedient of restressing the inner underwing pylons to carry up to four 500-kg (1,102-lb) bombs in side-by-side tandem pairs.
The end of the Cold War has led to a dramatic down-scaling of MiG-29 production, both for the VVS and for the export customers. Production in Moscow (at the Labour Banner factory) and in Nizhny Novograd continues at a very low rate, adding to a June 1993 stockpile which totalled about 100 unsold aircraft. A July 1993 Malaysian order for the MiG-29 may have been for some of these aicraft upgraded to MiG-29SE standards, or for MiG-29Ms. The 18 aircraft on order include some two-seaters (perhaps as many as six). Hungary's MiG-29s have been described as MiG-29Ss by some sources, but are actually standard 'Fulcrum-As'.
The brown and green ground attack colour scheme worn by some Russian and Ukrainian MiG-29s (mainly 'Fulcrum-Cs', but including some early ventral-finned 'Fulcrum-As') is very similar to that applied to Czech and East German air force aircraft. This Russian 'Fulcrum-C' carries a Guards badge, perhaps indicating previous service at Kubinka, but was photographed at Zhukhovskii, where it serves the LII Gromov Flight Research Centre as a development and test aircraft.

SPECIFICATION

Mikoyan MiG-29S
generally similar to the Mikoyan MiG-29 'Fulcrum-A' except in the following particulars:
Weights: normal take-off weight 15300 kg (33,730 lb): maximum take-off weight 19700 kg (42,680 lb)
Fuel and load: internal fuel 4440-4540 litres (976-998 US gal), external fuel 3,800 litres (1,004 US gal): maximum ordnance load 4000 kg (8,818 lb)
Range: ferry range 2900 km (1,566 nm; 1,802 miles) with three drop tanks

This unusual two-tone green camouflage, seen on a pair of of MiG-29s (this one a 'Fulcrum-C') departing from Ribnitz-Damgarten during May 1994, may be the latest MiG-29 fighter-bomber colour scheme, or may have been entirely experimental and applied at unit level. One of the 733rd IAP's three squadrons was believed to have a primary fighter-bomber role.

eeero wrote:

Serbinho-3 wrote:Stizu u martu 6 komada mig29.

...'ko ce gorivo platit?

pa drugi..tako navikli..

MiG-29S (Product 9.13)The MiG-29S, given the NATO reporting code "Fulcrum-C", features flight control system improvements; a total of four new computers provide better stability augmentation and controllability with an increase of 2° in angle of attack (AoA). An improved mechanical-hydraulic flight control system allows for greater control surface deflections. The MiG-29S has a dorsal hump, which led to its nickname "Fatback", houses the L-203BE Gardenyia-1 ECM system. The MiG-29S can carry 1,150 liter (304 US gallon, 2,000 lb) under wing drop tanks and a centerline tank. The inboard underwing hardpoints allow a tandem pylon arrangement for carrying a larger payload of 4,000 kg (8,820 lb). Overall maximum gross weight has been raised to 20,000 kg (44,000 lb). Built only for domestic use. Early MiG-29S featured an IRST sighting system; the MiG-29S improvement kit includes the Phazotron N019M radar and Built-In Test Equipment (BITE) to reduce dependence on ground support equipment; MiG MAPO designates this as MiG-29SD. Improvements to software and processing capabilities enables the tracking of up to 10 targets and the simultaneous engagement of two with the R-77 missile. The MiG-29S also has a limited ground-attack capability.

vuksadinare wrote:

eeero wrote:

Serbinho-3 wrote:Stizu u martu 6 komada mig29.

...'ko ce gorivo platit?

pa drugi..tako navikli..

...ako racunaju opet na ruse,

   prvo platit' ovo dosad...

ja ne znam da li su ti rusi doista mazohisti ili idealisti..ali valjda oni jso samo vjeruju da je srbin mozda ka'k ti neki ratnik,vojnik..ili vis epo onom..'jbg nemam izbora pa moram njih uzeti'...

In the 1980s, Mikoyan developed the improved MiG-29S to use longer range R-27E and R-77 air-to-air missiles. It added a dorsal 'hump' to the upper fuselage to house a jamming system and some additional fuel capacity. The weapons load was increased to 4,000 kg (8,800 lb) with airframe strengthening. These features were included in new-built fighters and upgrades to older MiG-29s.

...nema se za germe, a svrsavanje zbog par aviona...

...eeee, kukavci crni...