Kardinal u biografiji priznao da je Benedikt XVI izbačen iz Vatikana

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:10

http://m.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/cardinal-danneels-part-of-mafia-club-opposed-to-benedict-xvi#.WDfjahn-jqA

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:16

Naravno on je imao ključnu ulogu

by vuksadinare 25/11/2016, 08:16

dobro jutro..opcepoznata stvar.....izvukli su papa-na franju iz neke argentinske pripizdine...punog uvjerenja je da je on u biti jedini pravi isusov nasljednik....i na kraju imamo da se po vatikanu setkuca svatko a najmanje katolici

by marcellus 25/11/2016, 08:27

pa to je manje više poznato da su pederi pedofili i lopovi izbacili benedikta

a ovaj im "svetac" služi kao pokriće za pljačku

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:37

marcellus wrote:pa to je manje više poznato da su pederi pedofili i lopovi izbacili benedikta

a ovaj im "svetac" služi kao pokriće za pljačku

manje više kurac, osim nekih američkih medija i hvaljenja učesnik anema ničega, osim toga nije mi jasno da Benedikta niti jedan novinar nije obišao već 4/5 godina, pa bokte kao da je bio pop u Imotskom a ne jebeni papa koji je prvi put "podnio ostavku"

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:38

Cardinal Danneels Admits to Being Part of 'Mafia' Club Opposed to Benedict XVI
New authorised biography also reveals papal delegate at upcoming synod wrote letter to Belgium government supporting same-sex "marriage" legislation because it ended discrimination against LGBT groups
Edward Pentin
Further serious concerns are being raised about Cardinal Godfried Danneels, one of the papal delegates chosen to attend the upcoming Ordinary Synod on the Family, after the archbishop emeritus of Brussels confessed this week to being part of a radical "mafia" reformist group opposed to Benedict XVI.

It was also revealed this week that he once wrote a letter to the Belgium government favoring same-sex "marriage" legislation because it ended discrimination against LGBT groups.

The cardinal is already known for having once advised the king of Belgium to sign an abortion law in 1990, for telling a victim of clerical sex abuse to keep quiet, and for refusing to forbid pornographic, “educational” materials being used in Belgian Catholic schools.

He also once said same-sex “marriage” was a “positive development,” although he has sought to distinguish such a union from the Church’s understanding of marriage.

According to a forthcoming authorized biography on the cardinal co-written by Jürgen Mettepenningen, a former spokesman for Cardinal Danneels' successor, Archbishop Andre Joseph Leonard, and Karim Schelkens, a Church historian and theologian, the cardinal expressed satisfaction over the disappearance of “discrimination” against LGBT couples after legislation was passed approving same-sex "marriage" in 2003.

The authors of the biography, to be published Sept. 29, reveal that the cardinal wrote a letter on May 28, 2003, to then-Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt, who at that time was putting together his second government.

In the letter, the cardinal wrote favorably about "one of the last achievements of Verhofstadt’s first governments, the approval of a legal statute for a stable relationship between partners of the same sex." Verhofstadt’s government introduced same sex-‘marriage’ into Belgium in 2003.

"He wanted to stop discrimination between married heterosexuals and homosexuals who had a long-term relationship," write the two authors of the biography. "But there should be no confusion between the use of the term ‘marriage’."

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:38

Asked about the letter, Verhofstadt said he did not recall it, but added: “I never had any problem with the cardinal. Our relationship was good.”
Under Verhofstadt’s leadership, from 1999 to 2007, the Belgian government not only introduced same sex “marriage”, but also laws on euthanasia, experiments on human embryos, and IVF.
Despite the poor record of the Belgian Church in resisting these laws, and the country being far smaller than many African countries that have one delegate representing them, Cardinal Danneels, 82, will be one of three Belgian prelates to attend the synod in October.
The Vatican listed him second in importance out of 45 delegates personally chosen by Pope Francis to participate in the upcoming meeting. He also took part in last year’s Extraordinary Synod as a papal delegate.
At the launch of the book in Brussels this week, the cardinal said he was part of a secret club of cardinals opposed to Pope Benedict XVI.
He called it a "mafia" club that bore the name of St. Gallen. The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, to make it "much more modern", and for Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio to head it. The group, which also comprised Cardinal Walter Kasper and the late Jesuit Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, has been documented in Austen Ivereigh's biography of Pope Francis, The Great Reformer.

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:39

http://www.onepeterfive.com/vatican-conspiracy-against-pope-benedict-for-pope-francis/

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:41

He called it a “mafia” club that bore the name of St. Gallen. The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, to make it “much more modern”, and for Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio to head it. The group, which also comprised Cardinal Walter Kasper and the late Jesuit Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, has been documented in Austen Ivereigh’s biography of Pope Francis, The Great Reformer.

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:41

Rod Dreher has picked up the story at The American Conservative, and he emphasizes the importance of the fact that “Pentin got his hands on a copy of the authorized —repeat, authorized — biography” – and that this is where the information is coming from, not some anonymous source.
Marco Tosatti, the Senior Religion Correspondent for the the Italian daily, La Stampa, also did a story on this yesterday, which has now been translated by the good folks at Rorate Caeli:

The election of Jorge Bergoglio was the fruit of secret meetings that cardinals and bishops, organized by Carlo Maria Martini, held for years at St. Gall in Switzerland. This is what is claimed by Jürgen Mettepenningen and Karim Schelkens, the authors of a just published biography of the Belgian Cardinal Godfried Danneels, who refer to the group of cardinals and bishops as the “Mafiaclub”.
Danneels, according to the authors, had worked for years in preparation for the election of Pope Francis, which happened in 2013. He himself, however, in a video recorded during the presentation of the book admits that he had taken part in a secret club of cardinals that were in opposition to Joseph Ratzinger. While laughing he calls it “a Mafia club whose name was St. Gall”.
The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, much more modern and up to date, with Jorge Bergoglio as Pope Francis at the head. And this is just as things turned out. In addition to Danneels and Martini, among the others who made up the group according to the book were the Dutch bishop Adriaan Van Luyn, the German cardinals Walter Kasper and Karl Lehman, the Italian cardinal AchilleSilvestrini and the English cardinal Basil Hume.
The Belgian newspaper “Le Vif” wrote: “ On March 13, 2013, an old acquaintance was at the side of the new Pope, Francis: Godfried Danneels. Officially he stood there in his role as the dean of the cardinal-priests, but actually he had operated for years in secret as the king-maker.”
Danneels has been invited again by Pope Francis to attend the Synod on the Family that will take place in October in Rome. But he has been severely criticized. He tried to dissuade a victim of sexual abuse from accusing the man who abused him, a bishop, who was the uncle of the victim, and because of this, at the time of the Conclave in 2013 there were those in Belgium who asked that he not be allowed to elect the new Pope.
In addition, his positions on homosexual marriage and on abortion, (according to the revelations of two parliamentarians Danneels had written to the king of Belgium urging him to sign the law that permitted it) does not seem to be in harmony with the Magisterium of the Church. And not in harmony as well with what Pope Francis affirms.

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:42

As a reminder, Pope St. John Paul II wrote an apostolic constitution called Universi Dominici Gregis, which lays out rules for the conduct of conclaves. Of particular note are these sections:

79. Confirming the prescriptions of my Predecessors, I likewise forbid anyone, even if he is a Cardinal, during the Pope’s lifetime and without having consulted him, to make plans concerning the election of his successor, or to promise votes, or to make decisions in this regard in private gatherings.
[…]
81. The Cardinal electors shall further abstain from any form of pact, agreement, promise or other commitment of any kind which could oblige them to give or deny their vote to a person or persons. If this were in fact done, even under oath, I decree that such a commitment shall be null and void and that no one shall be bound to observe it; and I hereby impose the penalty of excommunication latae sententiae upon those who violate this prohibition. It is not my intention however to forbid, during the period in which the See is vacant, the exchange of views concerning the election.

82. I likewise forbid the Cardinals before the election to enter into any stipulations, committing themselves of common accord to a certain course of action should one of them be elevated to the Pontificate. These promises too, should any in fact be made, even under oath, I also declare null and void.

83. With the same insistence shown by my Predecessors, I earnestly exhort the Cardinal electors not to allow themselves to be guided, in choosing the Pope, by friendship or aversion, or to be influenced by favour or personal relationships towards anyone, or to be constrained by the interference of persons in authority or by pressure groups, by the suggestions of the mass media, or by force, fear or the pursuit of popularity. Rather, having before their eyes solely the glory of God and the good of the Church, and having prayed for divine assistance, they shall give their vote to the person, even outside the College of Cardinals, who in their judgment is most suited to govern the universal Church in a fruitful and beneficial way.

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:43

Excommunication is the penalty for collusion and conspiracy to elect a given candidate. This is serious business. It is astonishing that even someone as brazen as Cardinal Daneels would admit to doing so openly, and on the record.

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:44

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/09/tosatti-election-of-jorge-bergoglio-by.html

by Kermit 25/11/2016, 08:44

The election of Jorge Bergoglio was the fruit of secret meetings that cardinals and bishops, organized by Carlo Maria Martini, held for years at St. Gall in Switzerland. This is what is claimed by Jürgen Mettepenningen and Karim Schelkens, the authors of a just published biography of the Belgian Cardinal Godfried Danneels, who refer to the group of cardinals and bishops as the “Mafia-club”.

Danneels, according to the authors, had worked for years in preparation for the election of Pope Francis, which happened in 2013. He himself, however, in a video recorded during the presentation of the book admits that he had taken part in a secret club of cardinals that were in opposition to Joseph Ratzinger. While laughing he calls it “a Mafia club whose name was St. Gall”.

The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, much more modern and up to date, with Jorge Bergoglio as Pope Francis at the head. And this is just as things turned out. In addition to Danneels and Martini, among the others who made up the group according to the book were the Dutch bishop Adriaan Van Luyn, the German cardinals Walter Kasper and Karl Lehman, the Italian cardinal AchilleSilvestrini and the English cardinal Basil Hume. [Rorate note: from the earliest days of the group, later replaced after his death.]

The Belgian newspaper “Le Vif” wrote: “On March 13, 2013, an old acquaintance was at the side of the new Pope [at the St. Peter's Basilica loggia], Francis: Godfried Danneels. Officially he stood there in his role as the dean of the cardinal-priests, but actually he had operated for years in secret as the king-maker.”

Danneels has been invited again by Pope Francis to attend the Synod on the Family that will take place in October in Rome. But he has been severely criticized. He tried to dissuade a victim of sexual abuse from accusing the man who abused him, a bishop, who was the uncle of the victim, and because of this, at the time of the Conclave in 2013 there were those in Belgium who asked that he not be allowed to elect the new Pope.

In addition, his positions on homosexual marriage and on abortion, (according to the revelations of two parliamentarians Danneels had written to the king of Belgium urging him to sign the law that permitted it) do not seem to be in harmony with the Magisterium of the Church. And not in harmony as well with what Pope Francis affirms.

by catabbath 25/11/2016, 09:23

Nebi me čudilo da ovo bude materijal za neki novi Brownov Roman od kojeg će se službeni Vatikan ograđivati.

by vuksadinare 25/11/2016, 09:27

..hm..nesto se kuha u vatikanu..posljednjih desetak dana sve se vise nezadovoljnih kardinala javlja o nezadovoljavajucem stanju u vatikanu...i sam pap-an franjo je nekidan priznao da ima dosta nezadovoljnika protiv njega....ali i da je ipak i on sam 'grijesnik'.....dojam sam da bi mogao i papa-an franjo mogao abdicirati

by Guest 25/11/2016, 09:33

da nije slucajno bio konketovan sa Kitlerom u mladosti ??
moguce da je to " otegotna " okolnost koja je postala
balast vatikanu, kao, ipak, najbrojnijoj hr. zajednici.
naci i hriscanstvo, nikako ne idu zusammen
bice, da je time i odnos vatikana prema drugu stepincu
definitivno overen !?

by vuksadinare 25/11/2016, 09:35

pizzon wrote:da nije slucajno bio konketovan sa Kitlerom u mladosti ??
moguce da je to " otegotna " okolnost koja je postala
balast vatikanu, kao, ipak, najbrojnijoj hr. zajednici.
naci i hriscanstvo, nikako ne idu zusammen
bice, da je time i odnos vatikana prema drugu stepincu
definitivno overen !?

prije bih rekao da mu se previse pedera i arapa seta po vatikanu...prakticno se sudaras sa njima..

by Guest 25/11/2016, 09:37

ne volite papu franceska,
ali ga mi uvazavamo, kao papu
niste bili za Trampa, a mi jesmo
niste bili zvanicno, to je bilo ocigledno
za koga je kolindica drukala-
kod nas,
narod je javno i glasno bio
za trampa i vlast je cutala

by Guest 25/11/2016, 09:39

vuksadinare wrote:
pizzon wrote:da nije slucajno bio konketovan sa Kitlerom u mladosti ??
moguce da je to " otegotna " okolnost koja je postala
balast vatikanu, kao, ipak, najbrojnijoj hr. zajednici.
naci i hriscanstvo, nikako ne idu zusammen
bice, da je time i odnos vatikana prema drugu stepincu
definitivno overen !?
prije bih rekao da mu se previse pedera i arapa seta po vatikanu...prakticno se sudaras sa njima..

vi ste bolje informisani od mene,
svkako,
ali je ocigledno da je papa franja
prvi papa kome ste gotovo okrenuli ledja
zbog vase sujete, vezano za a.stepinca,
ega, koji je pobedio vernost vatikanu,
dobro uzdrmao !
to nije dobro !

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